Blackpill The bad guy tends to win in the end

[KingOfRome]

World War Two is one of the rare clear-cut examples of this, obviously, but it's a trend that's noticeable throughout history.

The Soviets (being fairly moderate at this point, a far cry from their Stalinist predecessors) failed their invasion of Afghanistan to the same Islamic militants who bomb train stations in the west. Though, a good argument could be made for the Soviets being the bad guys here, as Islam may well be the west's only hope at this point, however, it's far more backwards in thinking than Marxism-Leninism, which was still anti-degenerate at the time. Which brings to our attention that often, the only reason the bad guy wins is there is no good guy to be found.

Let's go back further.

Napoleon lost. I can only imagine an alt-history scenario with the House of Bonaparte ruling Europe being better than the current timeline.

Change the channel again.

The Crusades were largely a failure. Pretty much nothing good came out of them. People try to cope by saying they opened up trade to the Middle East, but that's a lie. Italians and Greeks had been going there by boat for centuries. In fact, the First Crusade would've been a complete wash without Italian and Greek boats.

Change the channel again.

The Roman Empire collapsed. Now, true, the Romans were degenerate as fuck at this point, which is partly why they collapsed (one of many many contributing factors), but had it not collapsed, it could've reformed.

Go back further.

Humans evolved into self-aware beings instead of being hunted to extinction by megafauna. This one is self-explanatory.

 

[jerrycan dan]

(((cyanobacteria))) polluted the atmosphere with a toxic gas, wiping out most life that was alive at the time. everyone else was unable to stop them

 

[Deleted member 8353]

The Crusades were largely a failure. Pretty much nothing good came out of them. People try to cope by saying they opened up trade to the Middle East, but that's a lie. Italians and Greeks had been going there by boat for centuries. In fact, the First Crusade would've been a complete wash without Italian and Greek boats.

How were the crusaders "good guys" though? I mean there are so many examples of their bullshit that I wouldn't even know where to properly start, but the 4th crusade, the albigensian crusade, and the northern crusades as a whole are the most obvious examples, and there are still more.

Humans evolved into self-aware beings instead of being hunted to extinction by megafauna. This one is self-explanatory.

High IQ.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

My bullies are living a successful and prosperous life full of joy and love.

 

[Darth Cialis]

Like my narcissistic pervert playboy prettyboy Jewish former friend who in the end took the Catholic virgin girl I was trying to get.
Another perverted Chad I know is gonna date a 27 years old cute virgin girl soon, and he is like 40.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

The Roman Empire collapsed. Now, true, the Romans were degenerate as fuck at this point, which is partly why they collapsed (one of many many contributing factors), but had it not collapsed, it could've reformed.

They found some roman relics among native americans. Very probably some roman explorers managed to went there through Greenland. Life would have been 1000000 better for any of us had the Romans managed to reform their dying empire through some sort of dictatorship.
The same goes for the last attempt to fight back against international capitalist powers and against the worst of human nature: the glorious national-socialism. It makes me sad everytime i start reading some stories about the last days of Western Roman Empire or the last days of the Axis.
I don't know if a new explosion of white vitality is possible now or if this time it's really over for europeans cause of demographic replacement...

How were the crusaders "good guys" though?

I'll give another one: (((christianity))) managed to succeed and destroyed the Old Paganism with all its science and knowledge thus creating a terrible fight between scientific knowledge and spiritual trascendent knowledge. This fight simply wasn't there when Roman Politheists ruled Europe

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Survival of the fittest

 

[DerPreuße]

How were the crusaders "good guys" though? I mean there are so many examples of their bullshit that I wouldn't even know where to properly start, but the 4th crusade, the albigensian crusade, and the northern crusades as a whole are the most obvious examples, and there are still more.

You are right in this context that crusaders are way too broad a term to be generally called good guys, unless you are an Michael E. Jones tier Catholic Apologist.
I think he probably just meant the Crusaders in Levant fighting against Muslims to create christian kingdoms there.

The Crusades were largely a failure. Pretty much nothing good came out of them. People try to cope by saying they opened up trade to the Middle East, but that's a lie. Italians and Greeks had been going there by boat for centuries. In fact, the First Crusade would've been a complete wash without Italian and Greek boats.

Well the prelude to Italians and Greeks trading a little bit with Muslims was that after the emergence of the Arab Caliphate, we as the West basically got cucked hard. Not only did we lose a lot of important food-surplus producing regions (north africa basically had its fertile regions destroyed by the muslims, who used it as grazing areas for their camels), we also got completly cut of from the East and the areas beyond it. We degressed to feudal, very localized economies. Then add to that constant muslim piracy and slavery (of white people yes), which lasted so long that even one of the first wars the US ever fought was against muslim pirates and slavers of the barbary states.

So imo it's accurate to say that it connected us to eastern trade again. The trading privilege granted to Venice had another reason. A reason which made the Crusades even functionally possible, which was european naval dominance. Without naval supremacy the Crusades in the Levant would have been very difficult. So these things are connected. Venice got to trade, because it had a strong navy, which over time increased the likelyhood of something like the Crusades happening. And Greeks aren't really westerners. Or at least weren't in this context. They were always considered as something seperate from "The West", which used to mean the countries that used to be part of the Western Roman Empire or catholic countries. So how does it benefit the West, if the Eastern Greeks can trade with Muslims?

Sadly many of the commoners and knights were too religious and were autistic about capturing Jerusalem. Capturing Egypt would have been much more awesome. Jerusalem didn't really have much going for it, except for religious reasons.

 

[FinnCel]

Survival of the fittest

Landwhales ain't fit

 

[Deleted member 17724]

True, I always cringe when people talk about the allied soldiers of WWII as heroes who protected "freedom" in the west. When I look around me, the west is in the worst state it has ever been and its native population might not even survive the end of this century yet somehow the allies were the heroes of the story.
Even Churchill stated his regret about fighting Germany before his death. If he had known that his nation would be flooded by the colonial citizens he hated so much only a decade after the war ended, I'm sure he would have never entered it and let Germany just take Poland.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Landwhales ain't fit

They fit because society support them , all resourses goes to females of any age and weight.

 

[PolishMisanthrope]

Survival of the fittest

As soon as technological civilization triumphs over nature and fauna, the traditional notion of survival of the fittest becomes obsolete, degenerative and wrong.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

As soon as technological civilization triumphs over nature and fauna, the traditional notion of survival of the fittest becomes obsolete, degenerative and wrong.

Yes, that's why must be a beta uprising to destroy this nonsense system. But seeing how foids are day by day more powerfull and cucks more thirsty...

 

[InMyCellInHell]

Unfortunately history is written by the victors, so despite what they do, we'll be the ones painted as the villains sadly.

I hope we get some cool alien-looking eyes and supernatural powers 20 years from now at least in Pedowood movies.

 

[Insomniac]

history is written by the victors

 

[Cuyen]

Unfortunately history is written by the victors, so despite what they do, we'll be the ones painted as the villains sadly.

we'll be winners this time

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Unfortunately history is written by the victors, so despite what they do, we'll be the ones painted as the villains sadly.

Not unless we win which is what I believe we are doing. Rome wasn't built in a day.

we'll be winners this time

 

[Smallus Dickus]

Islam may well be the west's only hope at this point, however, it's far more backwards in thinking than Marxism-Leninism, which was still anti-degenerate at the time. Which brings to our attention that often, the only reason the bad guy wins is there is no good guy to be found.

Hahaha, Marxism-Leninism antidegenerate xD It was full blown DEGENERATE TO THE MAX. From perspective of central europe, what they did:
-promoting nudity and pornography to have content society that will not rebel(movies from 70 and 80 made in my country have much more nudity and sex that produced nowadays)
-fighting with church
-heavily promoting women in workplace
-not to mention inherit weaknesses of this system, corruption and breaking human spirit by making everybody 'equal' thus destroying people who are different or superior

That ideology was made to destroy the west, and it's not surprising if you look who developed it, and who was in charge of it for the most of the time. Sure, ussr was a little bit different as nobody in Russia ever cared about people and if they rebel, because Russia is pretty much an asian country(not because of geography but because the baddest of russian principalities united Russia - which at the least confirms your theory, if for example Novogrod united Russia, it would be far better country to live in) and people behave like hivemind, revering any government that is in charge. But still, Marxism-Leninism is degeneratemaxxing and without it's influence central europe would be in much better shape. On the other hand, we would be influenced by west earlier on so I quess the only solution was to make walls on both western and eastern fringes of central europe

 

[Deleted member 1252]

Evil always triumphs. Believing that there is some kind of universal justice in the universe is a gigacope.