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34 year old KHHV here.

It's like.. I had an idea of what love, relationship is, and the idea is not relevant anymore. I used to have the urgency of time when I used to tell myself that 'if i ain't getting a woman, this life as a man would go waste'. Now that's gone too. The sight of an attractive women isn't raising my attention anymore and there isn't any sadness about missing a vital huMAN experience in life.

For an analogy, I would compare myself to the penis that has gone flaccid after an ejaculation. I assumed I would change and that this is a temporary phase but I have stopped counting. Again, used to fap to porn but now the video seems like watching some childhood cartoon. By now the deep thinking frens here would mutter ''depression'' - maybe, maybe not. Should I care?

I have maintained a good physical health except for my teeth (it's the cross wisdom tooth to blame) and the organism's will to keep going is the only thing that's keeping me alive. Also, parents. They would live a decade or a bit more; so I gotta keep breathing for the sake of not giving them the pain of watching their own son's death: the least I could do.

Existence is a pain: when you are a norman, your day is painful to choose between the infinite people and places and activities to do- the pain of missing B because you chose A. As an incel, it is otherwise: the boredom of breathing and keeping alive. There's no colors* to see, everything is boring gray.

*by color, I mean - normans choose to firmly hold on to their blue pill world's parameters like character, beauty, and such adjectives from which they derive a purpose and reason to exist and cherish and identify themselves as one among the crowd.

Carl Jung said to develop a healthy ego and then let go of it : normans who introspect would attain the maturity to let go usually at their 50s (in modern world, majority still want to firmly hold on to it) and here I am at 34, ready to give up and embrace death - for the religiously inclined, it is a better world, but the nihilist in me says it is nothing but permanent sleep.

To keep calm and watch everything from a quiet corner till I can't take it anymore. A wry but understanding smile to my fellow cels who can understand my state of mind. That is all for now. Thanks for reading.
 
That's some positive attitude, never seen in .co
 
Women are demonic. The more you observe women, the more you realise just how cruel and petty they really are. They’re horrible to those they don’t view as worthy enough of their time and presence.
 
Carl Jung said to develop a healthy ego and then let go of it : normans who introspect would attain the maturity to let go usually at their 50s (in modern world, majority still want to firmly hold on to it) and here I am at 34, ready to give up and embrace death - for the religiously inclined, it is a better world, but the nihilist in me says it is nothing but permanent sleep.

I'm 10 years younger than you and I don't even have a massive ego, I'd be content with dying too.
 
Women are demonic. The more you observe women, the more you realise just how cruel and petty they really are. They’re horrible to those they don’t view as worthy enough of their time and presence.

I understood it as - men, masculinity and strength. Women, fragile, beauty - to test that. Thus stronger men survived and reproduced.

In the slow march of civilization by some cunning deceit or through unintended machinations - led to giving women the upper hand - and what would happen when a brainless bottom end laborer is given the role to manage a large industrial unit? He will run it based on what he sees from bottom up and that exactly is what women are doing to the dating world, governance(Europe) et al.

TL:DR: demonic, cruel and petty because they are allowed to have cake and eat it too (enjoy everything without consequences).
 
Ya the more you learn about women the less you even want a relationship with one.

I think the fairy tale version of women is a male fantasy story. And we fell in love with this fairy tale idea of women when we were children. Its like today how many guys are falling in love with anime and the girls characters in anime.

Neckbeards then are taking that fantasy character, and thinking that real women are like that. Its probably one reason neckbeards get so angry when you criticize women in any way, is neckbeards want to believe they live in a world where women are like the female anime characters they love.


On your last post..The bottom end laborer is a good analogy. He is useful as a worker guy who men with wisdom determine what work he will do. The work the laborer does is in part of a greater plan created by men whose useful work is their strategic minds & wisdom.

Women are like that, imagine a young teenage guy who has not had time to gain any wisdom, that is what women are like.
 
He is useful as a worker guy who men with wisdom determine what work he will do. The work the laborer does is in part of a greater plan created by men whose useful work is their strategic minds & wisdom.

The sperm is as vital as the egg for the continuation of species. Just that the female body is designed to nurture the embryo/fetus for months and i guess this is the reason society is gynocentric.

My point being, patriarchy is nothing but 'wise minds' who devised a scheme to reward men who worked hard, women who toed the line (and created/sustained kids) accorded a lenient status. You can point out 1000 bad things about democracy but there is no other viable alternative that has proved itself through time and history of what keeps civilization afloat. The patriarchy the feminists despise is something like that: Give an alternative, working model before asking to dismantle, or else you risk losing everything.

And its not like men had a better deal under patriarchy - insane competition to come out as the best of the lot - and with women in workplace that is even more tough. This is like a game where for men, it's 'difficult' mode right at the beginning.

Modern world would mean men got no reward to work hard and earn to build a nest, women who refuse to make kids (and realize it too late that they are victims are feminism, etc) - everyone want to play the victim card but not realize that everyone gives some to get some (shared benefits). That protective umbrella is gone - it's free for all now.

Young men are dealt with a raw deal - reaction to this from the powers that be is 'so be it, I don't care as long as it doesn't affect me' - does anybody really think in a holistic, larger than the individual (aka, society/collectivist) perspective at all?
 
Women are dumb as fuck. Men will enslave them soon enough.
 
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Women are demonic. The more you observe women, the more you realise just how cruel and petty they really are. They’re horrible to those they don’t view as worthy enough of their time and presence.
 
34 year old KHHV here.

It's like.. I had an idea of what love, relationship is, and the idea is not relevant anymore. I used to have the urgency of time when I used to tell myself that 'if i ain't getting a woman, this life as a man would go waste'. Now that's gone too. The sight of an attractive women isn't raising my attention anymore and there isn't any sadness about missing a vital huMAN experience in life.

For an analogy, I would compare myself to the penis that has gone flaccid after an ejaculation. I assumed I would change and that this is a temporary phase but I have stopped counting. Again, used to fap to porn but now the video seems like watching some childhood cartoon. By now the deep thinking frens here would mutter ''depression'' - maybe, maybe not. Should I care?

I have maintained a good physical health except for my teeth (it's the cross wisdom tooth to blame) and the organism's will to keep going is the only thing that's keeping me alive. Also, parents. They would live a decade or a bit more; so I gotta keep breathing for the sake of not giving them the pain of watching their own son's death: the least I could do.

Existence is a pain: when you are a norman, your day is painful to choose between the infinite people and places and activities to do- the pain of missing B because you chose A. As an incel, it is otherwise: the boredom of breathing and keeping alive. There's no colors* to see, everything is boring gray.

*by color, I mean - normans choose to firmly hold on to their blue pill world's parameters like character, beauty, and such adjectives from which they derive a purpose and reason to exist and cherish and identify themselves as one among the crowd.

Carl Jung said to develop a healthy ego and then let go of it : normans who introspect would attain the maturity to let go usually at their 50s (in modern world, majority still want to firmly hold on to it) and here I am at 34, ready to give up and embrace death - for the religiously inclined, it is a better world, but the nihilist in me says it is nothing but permanent sleep.

To keep calm and watch everything from a quiet corner till I can't take it anymore. A wry but understanding smile to my fellow cels who can understand my state of mind. That is all for now. Thanks for reading.
Allah said in the quran the females are a fitnah(test)for men if you are smart you only use holes for sex. but for everything else stay far away from them they will twist your mind they will make you behave like one of them Cold emotional unrational and weak. Islampill=blackpill
 
Allah said in the quran the females are a fitnah(test)for men
I am smelling LARP, but I will play ball.
Illiterate desert hobos wrote quran. Not much better than a shitty story book. I live in a majority muslim country, just so you know.
 
I am smelling LARP, but I will play ball.
Illiterate desert hobos wrote quran. Not much better than a shitty story book. I live in a majority muslim country, just so you know.

Stories, that is what it is all. To keep the humanity going for reasons unknown. Selling hope.

''pray and I shall relieve you of your sins/miseries''.
 
''pray and I shall relieve you of your sins/miseries''.

I wish I had a reply to your thread man. I hate to see well written threads go unnoticed. But I agree. :feelskek:
 
I am smelling LARP, but I will play ball.
Illiterate desert hobos wrote quran. Not much better than a shitty story book. I live in a majority muslim country, just so you know.
How can i explain to a nigga that dosen’t belive in relgion? Belive that we were created from nothing(how?)atleast i have a reason for my existence and a reason meanwhile you don’t. Don’t let the west brainwash you bro.
 
How can i explain to a nigga that dosen’t belive in relgion? Belive that we were created from nothing(how?)atleast i have a reason for my existence and a reason meanwhile you don’t. Don’t let the west brainwash you bro.
Ooh, lets match.

I am agnostic, I dont know if there is a god or not, and I cannot know. Because it is not testable. Even if there was one;
I know that all religious books are written by people. Doesnt matter if they say god made them write it.

How do you know if the book is truthful?
>Because the prophet says it is God's word.
How do you know prophet is truthful?
>Because the books says so.
How do you know the prophet was not schizophrenic?
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Low IQ circular reasoning.
 
Ooh, lets match.

I am agnostic, I dont know if there is a god or not, and I cannot know. Because it is not testable. Even if there was one;
I know that all religious books are written by people. Doesnt matter if they say god made them write it.

How do you know if the book is truthful?
>Because the prophet says it is God's word.
How do you know prophet is truthful?
>Because the books says so.
How do you know the prophet was not schizophrenic?
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Low IQ circular reasoning.
Search up scietific prediction in the quran in youtube islam is the only religon which backs itself up by facts.
 
Search up scietific prediction in the quran in youtube islam is the only religon which backs itself up by facts.

I am sure every religion considers itself the only true one. Why are you muslim though? Is it because you chose it? Or is it because you were born in a majority muslim country?

If it was backed by facts, I would be a fellow muslim, not an ex muslim.
 
I am sure every religion considers itself the only true one. Why are you muslim though? Is it because you chose it? Or is it because you were born in a majority muslim country?

If it was backed by facts, I would be a fellow muslim, not an ex muslim.
Im somali so my parents were muslims then i startes to research into diffrent religions so the reason wasn’t just because i was born into it. What intrested me into Islam was that no other religion had anything to back themeselves up not christianity not judiaism not hinduism anything but islam had nothing to back themeselves up.

here are some miracles.


you’re probaly ex muslim because you’re mad that god made your life miserable lmao
No “happy” muslim leaves islam because it’s not true you lose nothing by being a muslim.
 
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you’re probaly ex muslim because you’re mad that god made your life missreble lmao
No “happy” muslim leaves islam because it’s not true you lose nothing by being a muslim.
Why would God make someone's life miserable?
 
Why would God make someone's life miserable?
God makes someone life miserable either because he is a sinner or does bad things all the time or because he loves you
the reason why he make your life miserable if he loves you is because in islam we belive that which ever pios muslims who struggles in life gets A higher paradise (there’s 7 levels of paradise)so allah makes the pios muslims life hard because he wants them get higher up in paradise so this is kinda a blessing in a way for us.

Or either he makes your life miserable so that you start to think about him again. Because in life there is many fake people there are people who you can’t trust or turn to. There is only one who you can turn to and that is god he is a solution he is the solution he is the best of the listeners. So god makes your life miserable so that you can be guides again which is another blesing
 
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You didnt say anything against what I already stated, but thats alright.
My family is stupidly religious, so they always show me stuff like this. I will tell you what I tell them all the time.

Have you ever read a legal document? Lawyers try so hard to cover every angle of a legal case, they end up writing neverending sentences just to prevent deviant interpretations.

Quran is not legalese. It is like a poem which can be interpreted to mean anything. If quran really had scientific facts, islamic nations would lead the world. It would be like participating in an exam with a cheat sheet.
But no, only after the fact these dudes show up and say; "quran already talked about this!" Bullshit.

you’re probaly ex muslim because you’re mad that god made your life miserable lmao
No “happy” muslim leaves islam because it’s not true you lose nothing by being a muslim.
logical fallacy galore
 
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Just stop with the religious delusions already, it's the lowest iq form of cope. Believing in fairytales and fiction books and subscribing to the mass delusion resulting from arbitrary dogmatic structures isn't going to fix your uglyness or making you more desirable to foids.
 
I wish I had a reply to your thread man. I hate to see well written threads go unnoticed. But I agree. :feelskek:

Plain truth is that life is harsh. We choose delusions to keep it colorful; even those who claim to take blackpill : a part of them still want to believe in the rosy stories and threads like this destroys that cope/hope.

I am very careful these days; one woman in her 60s took her life when her hope/cope was destroyed - I am a bit guilty because not few months back I tried to talk some harsh truths about life.

Another illustration I could provide is the MGTOW sub. Their lifefuel is bashing women; the reality is that probably they are undesirable to women which they cannot accept.

Incels begin with that basic fact: that they are undesirable and hence it's over; though the species will to reproduce still urges them to keep hopes alive. True loneliness is what one faces when all hopes are over and one realizes that they are alone for the rest of their lives.

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To the philosophycels and others who are able to grasp what I am conveying: tell me, What is a man to do? To delude himself for the sake of sustaining life as much as possible; or to keep digging deep to find the harsh realities of human conditions (which has the chance of leading you on the path of losing out the reason to be alive).
 
God makes someone life miserable either because he is a sinner or does bad things all the time or because he loves you
If you had a son, would you make his life miserable and drive him to suicide because you love him?
 
Parasite species
 
Another illustration I could provide is the MGTOW sub. Their lifefuel is bashing women; the reality is that probably they are undesirable to women which they cannot accept.

I personally abhor revenge copes, It is bullying, doesnt matter whoever does it, and it never stops. Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

And it is exactly what made foidism (not saying it wasnt bad otherwise) bad in the first place. "Men oppressed women for forever. Any revenge is justified and fair" Male tears mugs ensue.
 
Just stop with the religious delusions already, it's the lowest iq form of cope. Believing in fairytales and fiction books and subscribing to the mass delusion resulting from arbitrary dogmatic structures isn't going to fix your uglyness or making you more desirable to foids.
You atheist niggas are the stupid one how can you belive that 0=1(universe)
But god dosen’t exist even though it might make sense.
If you had a son, would you make his life miserable and drive him to suicide because you love him?
Did you read my reasonings why god might make someones life hard? Do that first then i answer.
 
yes they're from jupiter and men are from mars
 
You atheist niggas are the stupid one how can you belive that 0=1(universe)
But god dosen’t exist even though it might make sense.
Sigh. It doesn't follow from my post that I'm an atheist, in fact I'm agnostic. Also, religion and holding beliefs are two different things, you don't need to subscribe to a whole dogmatic structure fueled by herd behavior in order to belief certain things and make assumption about e.g. the origin of our universe (that you so elegantly outlined there as a mathematical impossibility). Religious folks are never really able to apply reason and rational thinking, I wonder why :rolleyes:

Just keep coping and praying to wake up in your virgin heaven if it makes your life easier.
 
You atheist niggas are the stupid one how can you belive that 0=1(universe)

The point of an argument is not to "win"
When you start fighting with participants, it is a pointless waste of time. So lets end it here.
 
The point of an argument is not to "win"
When you start fighting with participants, it is a pointless waste of time. So lets end it here.
I’m fine with that but you started it lmao
 
To the philosophycels and others who are able to grasp what I am conveying: tell me, What is a man to do? To delude himself for the sake of sustaining life as much as possible; or to keep digging deep to find the harsh realities of human conditions (which has the chance of leading you on the path of losing out the reason to be alive).
The reason why we desire female companions is to reproduce, gain social status, and for company to remove our loneliness. I think that if we restructured society without females, we wouldn't have these problems.
 
The reason why we desire female companions is to reproduce, gain social status, and for company to remove our loneliness. I think that if we restructured society without females, we wouldn't have these problems.

Male utopia is impossible. :feelsbadman:
Even here, people would go to great lengths for a shred of female approval. I am hoping most are smarter than that, yet I am not naive.
 
Male utopia is impossible. :feelsbadman:
Even here, people would go to great lengths for a shred of female approval. I am hoping most are smarter than that, yet I am not naive.

We would n÷d to completely reject and remove foids from society and replace them with artificial alternatives. Youngcels wouldn't even know what a foid is first hand since they would be raised by men and computers.
 
To the philosophycels and others who are able to grasp what I am conveying: tell me, What is a man to do? To delude himself for the sake of sustaining life as much as possible; or to keep digging deep to find the harsh realities of human conditions (which has the chance of leading you on the path of losing out the reason to be alive).

What is your metaphysical outlook on your reality as a human?

You're a biologically mechanical unit called an organism with a clear and defined purpose. Every living thing has just enough awareness of its environment to survive and fulfil its biological imperative. Life is simple under this framework. You do your best to eat, sleep, shit and fuck until your last heartbeat.

The human is a unique (yes, yes, anthropocentricism) and anomalous being capable of comprehending far more of its environment than necessary for its own survival and genetic propagation. The human library of knowledge is filled with a lot of useless information that doesn't necessarily help us survive. I mean, in the bio-evolutionary sense, not in some modern day economic sense. It also has the curious ability to change that environment as it sees fit. Even if you hold that we're simply advanced apes, you have to explain what evolutionary purpose things like comprehending the corners of the universe and creating sublime art serves. Why is there this force in nature that produces a conscious entity that is capable of doing so much than necessary for its own survival?

I don't have an answer outside of a few possibilities: A) a purposeful creator, B) an evolutionary accident and byproduct, or C) a creator who created the evolutionary mechanism and let it play out and result in the human accident. With option A your purpose is more or less defined for you. With options B and C other you mold your own purpose.

To answer your question, keep digging. The ontological possibilities are tilted in favor of it.
 
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Carl Jung said to develop a healthy ego and then let go of it : normans who introspect would attain the maturity to let go usually at their 50s (in modern world, majority still want to firmly hold on to it)

Most normans don't even come close to developing a healthy ego or even capable of introspection. By the time they lay down on their death beds, they already have plenty of regrets.

Good 4 u OP for letting it all go and embracing it
 
We have different brains too, in high iq land. Foids generally have different paths and ticks that go in with their synapses/lobes vs men. They are geared towards emotions and are known to have less cranial capacity on average vs men despite the fact that the average foid mogs the average man in iQ
 
I don't have an answer outside of a few possibilities: A) a purposeful creator, B) an evolutionary accident and byproduct, or C) a creator who created the evolutionary mechanism and let it play out and result in the human accident. With option A your purpose is more or less defined for you. With options B and C other you mold your own purpose.

To answer your question, keep digging. The ontological possibilities are tilted in favor of it.

What else, but to keep myself engaged through the same. It's not like I have the means to create a family, lol.
 
Women are demonic. The more you observe women, the more you realise just how cruel and petty they really are. They’re horrible to those they don’t view as worthy enough of their time and presence.
They have fcking DEMON eyes
 
What else, but to keep myself engaged through the same. It's not like I have the means to create a family, lol.

This might sound banal to you, but learn a new skill that others might find useful, like programming or carpentry.

The idea is to keep your mind stimulated in a positive way that will have a positive sum outcome. If it adds extra income, that's a bonus and entirely secondary.
 

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