Blackpill This is the worst time in all of history to be an ugly man

[Robtical]

what if people cant move because a lack of money?
what if no one feels sorry for the incel and doenst donate even if he begs on the internet like some fucking bum?
what if all the girls get tons of donations just like today and the ugly men are left to rot with no support, just like today?
what then?

That's already happening in socialist america and europe today. Foids get the money from the government and the cucks. Charities help all people equally, and thanks to the blackpill there will be a lot more men who sympathize with poor non-drug addict incels and will be willing to help them out. There's no place on earth, no matter how poor it is, who have people dying from hunger, except places with no water and electricity in africa. It will never happen in a western technologically advanced country.

 

[mentalcel666]

That's already happening in socialist america and europe today. Foids get the money from the government and the cucks. Charities help all people equally, and thanks to the blackpill there will be a lot more men who sympathize with poor non-drug addict incels and will be willing to help them out. There's no place on earth, no matter how poor it is, who have people dying from hunger, except places with no water and electricity in africa. It will never happen in a western technologically advanced country.

definition of socialism by the merriam webter dictionary:

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of socialism


1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


or try this source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism


does this definition sound like the US system? but im sure you have your own definition that has nothing to do with the "official" definiton
what we have is social democracy and no direct form of socialism, you can read more about the differences between capitalism, socialism, democratic socialism or social democracys (these two can be confusing)
here if you want to

What socialism really is—and what it isn't

We hear the word 'socialism' a lot. What does it mean, exactly?

bigthink.com

 

[Robtical]

definition of socialism by the merriam webter dictionary:

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Definition of socialism


1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


or try this source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism


does this definition sound like the US system? but im sure you have your own definition that has nothing to do with the "official" definiton

There is no place on earth like that. It would go the same route communism did.

 

[mentalcel666]

There is no place on earth like that. It would go the same route communism did.

so the US is not socialist, we can agree on that?

 

[Robtical]

so the US is not socialist, we can agree on that?

It's more socialist than capitalist, or at least 50/50.

 

[mentalcel666]

It's more socialist than capitalist, or at least 50/50.

which parts of socialism are being practiced in the US?

like what policies, what laws are socialist?
if you want i can give you a couple of laws and policies that are clearly capitalist

 

[Robtical]

which parts of socialism are being practiced in the US?

like what policies, what laws are socialist?

Money and resources being forcefully taken from people then being distributed to others. Affirmative action laws for the poor wahmen.

 

[mentalcel666]

Money and resources being forcefully taken from people then distribute to others.

ok yes thats true, like the police and food stamps and aid for the veterans and assisted housing, assisted childcare, orphan homes?

so the US would be better whitout this?

and on the topic of forcefully take from people, what about profiting from the labour of workers, like wal-mart for example, to make a profit they have to pay the workers LESS then what they generated through their work (not all profits go to workers, no company is doing that)

usually its less then 50% of the value you generate for your boss that you get as salary, the rest of the money goes to the boss.

isnt this also some form of socialism then? forcefully take money out of your paycheck just because the boss can decide who gets paid how much?

is money being redistributed from the workers to the bosses and shareholders?

so it would be more pure capitalism if the worker gets 100% of the profit he generates for the company?

(edit: in the redistribution argument you only focus on what is being taken and not who receives it because they need it, like some cripple who cant work, i think the cripple should get cared for by the community of people living in a country, the cripple should not be dependant on handouts from charities or private citizens, which are not guaranteed)

 

[Robtical]

ok yes thats true, like the police and food stamps and aid for the veterans and assisted housing, assisted childcare, orphan homes?

so the US would be better whitout this?

Absolutely. The police are corrupt and most the people who use foodstamps are single moms who waste their money on shoes, and drug addicts who sell them for drugs. Single moms should get no assisted child care forcefully from men who haven't agreed or aren't fucking them. The police will be way less expensive in a capitalist society because there will be competition with other security services.

and on the topic of forcefully take from people, what about profiting from the labour of workers, like wal-mart for example, to make a profit they have to pay the workers LESS then what they generated through their work (if not all profits would go to workers, no company is doing that)

usually its less then 50% of the value you generate for your boss that you get as salary, the rest of the money goes to the boss.

isnt this also some form of socialism then? forcefully take money out of your paycheck just because the boss can decide who gets paid how much?

No, because the workers aren't forced to work there, they accept it voluntarily.

is money being redistributed from the workers to the bosses and shareholders?

so it would be more pure capitalism if the worker gets 100% of the profit he generates for the company?

No, because the employer can set the rate to whatever he wishes and it's up to the employee to accept it or not.

 

[mentalcel666]

No, because the workers aren't forced to work there, they accept it voluntarily.

so if you dont agree with the taxes of your country (or state) you can just move to a different country with the system you like, or not?

 

[Robtical]

so if you dont agree with the taxes of your country (or state) you can just move to a different country with the system you like, or not?

There's no country that's capitalist, so I have to work at trying to bring it to this one.

 

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2000 years of female oppression and my unlucky ugly ass had to be born in the era of women empowerment in which foids don't even look at sub-8 men. Fuck this cucked world.

 

[ItsOver4cel]

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High IQ post. Those pics truly do represent what the average low status male has to endure daily.

 

[mentalcel666]

There's no country that's capitalist, so I have to work at trying to bring it to this one.

and what do you do to make the US more capitalist?

There's no country that's capitalist, so I have to work at trying to bring it to this one.

but there are countrys with no taxes, go to them, united arab emirates, monaco and shit, there you go, thats your definition right, no taxes?

4 Countries Without Income Taxes

Some of the most popular countries that offer the financial benefit of having no income tax are Bermuda, Monaco, the Bahamas, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

www.investopedia.com

 

[Robtical]

and what do you do to make the US more capitalist?

Convince people socialism is cucked, and get non-chad men to avoid paying taxes or become neets.

but there are countrys with no taxes, go to them, united arab emirates, monaco and shit, there you go, thats your definition right, no taxes?

They probably won't let me live there and they have other cucked laws. But I'll start planning to go if I like how things are there.

 

[Robtical]

@mentalcel666 btw, UAE and those other 3 capitalist countries you mentioned are thriving, and probably have way less incels than any of the cucked countries that tax men and give to entitled holes.

 

[mentalcel666]

@mentalcel666 btw, UAE and those other 3 capitalist countries you mentioned are thriving, and probably have way less incels than any of the cucked countries that tax men and give to entitled holes.

becasuse billionaires and other rich exploiters use them as tax heavens, so they get massive amounts of money through that,
btw its money thats missing in other countries because its easy for rich people to avoid paying taxes through various loopholes, thats why your countrys roads are shitty and full of potholes, because the rich dodge taxes and horde their wealth overseas

 

[Robtical]

becasuse billionaires and other rich exploiters use them as tax heavens, so they get massive amounts of money through that,
btw its money thats missing in other countries because its easy for rich people to avoid paying taxes through various loopholes, thats why your countrys roads are shitty and full of potholes, because the rich dodge taxes and horde their wealth overseas

Then you agree, people who get to keep their money and not have it forcefully taxed from them are more happy, so they voluntarily try to make their countries better because they appreciate not being cucked. People who are forcefully taxed expect the government to do everything and don't give a fuck.

 

[mentalcel666]

Then you agree, people who get to keep their money and not have it forcefully taxed from them are more happy, so they voluntarily try to make their countries better because they appreciate not being cucked. People who are forcefully taxed expect the government to do everything and don't give a fuck.

definitely not, this only works, because there are only like 3 or 4 countries like this as tax heavens, so all billionaires and millionaires go to these 4 countries, it works because while the taxes are not 0, they are like 0,1% or something, and 0,1% of trillions is still alot, thats why these countries have so much.

show me a source of rich peopl hording money in the bahamas making the bahamas better

they dont because they only horde their money and maybe give 0,01% of their wealth back to the charities of their handpicked choice (which are often set up by themselves to dodge even more taxes)

the system there works because all the rich assholes from all over the world DONT WANT TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES so they HIDE IT and withhold it from the people in their own countrys, so they go to the bahamas.

these tax heaven countries are thriving because they fuck over all other countries by offering such a small tax, so all the rich people go there, 0,1% taxes of millions is still alot.

MONEY THATS MISSING EVERYWHERE ELSE, IT IS STOLEN. ONLY THROUGH SHADY LOOPHOLES IS THIS PRAXIS EVEN POSSIBLE

Then you agree, people who get to keep their money and not have it forcefully taxed from them are more happy, so they voluntarily try to make their countries better because they appreciate not being cucked. People who are forcefully taxed expect the government to do everything and don't give a fuck.

here some facts about poverty in the bahamas, works out great huh?

10 Facts About Poverty in the Bahamas

The Bahamas are renowned as a vacation destination, however many live in poverty. Here are 10 facts about the condition of poverty in the Bahamas:

borgenproject.org

poverty rate of 12,5 percent, unemployment at 16 percent

bahamas is a shit poor country for the majority, although it hoards billions in evaded taxes from rich people

 

[Robtical]

definitely not, this only works, because there are only like 3 or 4 countries like this as tax heavens, so all billionaires and millionaires go to these 4 countries, it works because while the taxes are not 0, they are like 0,1% or something, and 0,1% of trillions is still alot, thats why these countries have so much.

It's amazing how much they can do with only that 0.1%. Why don't they just tax these million and billionaires 0.8% in the west so they won't leave, and it will cover all the country's expenses?

show me a source of rich peopl hording money in the bahamas making the bahamas better

they dont because they only horde their money and maybe give 0,01% of their wealth back to the charities of their handpicked choice (which are often set up by themselves to dodge even more taxes)

the system there works because all the rich assholes from all over the world DONT WANT TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES so they HIDE IT and withhold it from the people in their own countrys, so they go to the bahamas.

Wouldn't it be better to only tax the rich 1% so they won't leave the west, and the rest of the country doesn't have to pay any taxes? There's no point taxing all the middle class 30%.

these tax heaven countries are thriving because they fuck over all other countries by offering such a small tax, so all the rich people go there, 0,1% taxes of millions is still alot.

It's only people in america and europe who usually go to those places to escape taxes. It's better to keep them home and only charge them 1% tax instead of everybody 30%.

poverty rate of 12,5 percent, unemployment at 16 percent

bahamas is a shit poor country for the majority, although it hoards billions in evaded taxes from rich people

That's only one out of the 4 countries with that problem. I'm sure there are other things going on. Maybe things are really cheap there, and it's always sunny with nice beaches so a lot of people are lazy and don't want to work.

 

[FinnCel]

We were born in the wrong place at the wrong time

 

[mentalcel666]

It's amazing how much they can do with only that 0.1%. Why don't they just tax these million and billionaires 0.8% in the west so they won't leave, and it will cover all the country's expenses?

Wouldn't it be better to only tax the rich 1% so they won't leave the west, and the rest of the country doesn't have to pay any taxes? There's no point taxing all the middle class 30%.

It's only people in america and europe who usually go to those places to escape taxes. It's better to keep them home and only charge them 1% instead of everybody 30%.

That's only one out of the 4 countries with that problem. I'm sure there are other things going on. Maybe things are really cheap there, and it's always sunny with nice beaches so a lot of people are lazy and don't want to work.

rich people would rather pay 0,1% then 1%, why would they voluntarily pay more? if they dont do it right now,

cant someone who earns like 10 million easily afford a 30% tax? he is still filthy rich aferwards, like is it really that big of a difference, 7 million or 10 million?

even with 2 million you would never have to work again in your life and can life comfortably till you die.

why do these people need all of the 10 million or more they get? 7 million is not enough while people die of preventable disease and starvation?

That's only one out of the 4 countries with that problem. I'm sure there are other things going on. Maybe things are really cheap there, and it's always sunny with nice beaches so a lot of people are lazy and don't want to work.

sentences like these make me almost sure youre high level trolling cant be real

 

[Robtical]

rich people would rather pay 0,1% then 1%, why would they voluntarily pay more? if they dont do it right now,

cant someone who earns like 10 million easily afford a 30% tax? he is still filthy rich aferwards, like is it really that big of a difference, 7 million or 10 million?

even with 2 million you would never have to work again in your life and can life comfortably till you die.

why do these people need all of the 10 million or more they get? 7 million is not enough while people die of preventable disease and starvation?

If you think they won't be ok with 1% then we can't jump up to 30% and expect them to pay. I know 1% is still more than 0.1% but they'll be saving themselves the effort of hiding their money every year and hiring tax specialists.

sentences like these make me almost sure youre high level trolling cant be real

There's nothing I know about the bahamas except that it has nice beaches. Hawaii has plenty of beach bums too even though it's in a semi-socialist country.

 

[mentalcel666]

If you think they won't be ok with 1% then we can't jump up to 30% and expect them to pay. I know 1% is still more than 0.1% but they'll be saving themselves the effort of hiding their money every year and hiring tax specialists.

There's nothing I know about the bahamas except that it has nice beaches. Hawaii has plenty of beach bums too even though it's in a semi-socialist country.

but as i said, most of these tax dodging people have astronomical amounts of wealth, like 50 million or more is probably the average there.

if taxed at 30% its still 35 million, you honestly tell me that 35 million is just not enough they HAVE to hide their money in the bahamas because 35 million is just way to little to live on?

and with this logic, if they are not ok with only 35 million and supporting their place of birth, what makes you think they will be ok with 49 million?

all the evidence of the behaviour of rich people paints the same picture, if possible they dodge 100% of their taxes,

if not forced they want to keep all their money to themselves,

people are shit, people are greedy, people are not noble heroes like cuck media makes you believe, they are shit and only want to maximize profit for themselves at the expense of everything else (including the planet, as we see with climate change and the extinction of species)

so people are greedy THATS WHY WE NEED STRONG LAWS THAT PREVENT THE WORST OF THE GREED.

currently we have a system that rewards greed and hoarding ressources

 

[Robtical]

if taxed at 30% its still 35 million, you honestly tell me that 35 million is just not enough they HAVE to hide their money in the bahamas because 35 million is just way to little to live on?

I'm not that rich so I don't know exactly how they think but they seem to want to keep as much of their money as they can. Maybe they'll be more likely to give back if they were only required to do it voluntarily and not be forced. That can be like saying a foid that gave 1000 handjobs owes the government 30% of them because it's so easy for her to give handjobs.

and with this logic, if they are not ok with only 35 million and supporting their place of birth, what makes you think they will be ok with 49 million?

all the evidence of the behaviour of rich people paints the same picture, if possible they dodge 100% of their taxes,

if not forced they want to keep all their money to themselves,

That doesn't make it ok to tax all the middle class 30%, who make less than 200k a year, to carry the bourden of those multi millionaires and billionaires. If the laws were very strict on making the very rich pay 1%, or they can never come back to the country after they leave if they don't pay, then that would be enough to take care of a country's basic needs, and the rest can be voluntary.

people are shit, people are greedy, people are not noble heroes like cuck media makes you believe, they are shit and only want to maximize profit for themselves at the expense of everything else (including the planet, as we see with climate change and the extinction of species)

so people are greedy THATS WHY WE NEED STRONG LAWS THAT PREVENT THE WORST OF THE GREED.

currently we have a system that rewards greed and hoarding ressources

We need to enforce the law to make rich people pay 1%, or if they try to hide it they can't come back until they pay.

 

[mentalcel666]

That doesn't make it ok to tax all the middle class 30%, who make less than 200k a year, to carry the bourden of those multi millionaires and billionaires. If the laws were very strict on making the very rich pay 1%, or they can never come back to the country when they leave, then that would be enough to take care of a country's basic needs, and the rest can be voluntary.

We need to enforce the law to make rich people pay 1%, or if they try to hide it they can't come back until they pay.

i actually agree 100% would be a great start.

get the ultra rich to pay 1% or 5% and lower taxes of the average worker to 20% or something, very good idea.

but still isnt it a bit ridicilous that you and me would pay 20% taxes but the guy making 10 million a year only has to pay 1%?

my solution would be to have a worldwide unified tax code to make tax evasion impossible, and like your idea is great too, they cant come back to their country if they dodge taxes, i would go farther and say they also cannot own or buy anything from this country if they dodge taxes

 

[Robtical]

i actually agree 100% would be a great start.

get the ultra rich to pay 1% or 5% and lower taxes of the average worker to 20% or something, very good idea.

but still isnt it a bit ridicilous that you and me would pay 20% taxes but the guy making 10 million a year only has to pay 1%?

The regular worker should only pay 1% too, so it can all be equal.

my solution would be to have a worldwide unified tax code to make tax evasion impossible, and like your idea is great too, they cant come back to their country if they dodge taxes, i would go farther and say they also cannot own or buy anything from this country if they dodge taxes

Hopefully there won't be a need to take it that far, let's see how many will still dodge the 1% tax if they're just not allowed to come back first.