Those that tried looksmaxxing - did you ever take SARM'S?

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SARM is an acronym that stands for selective androgen receptor modulator. It is a type of drug that chemically looks similar to anabolic steroids, but with noticeable differences in terms of side effects. The market proposes different labs and brands offering SARMs: some variants are stronger than others, but they come with higher risks in terms of side effects, hence the choice will lay pretty much on personal criteria.

SARMs are drugs but not steroidal drugs, and their effects are almost completely reserved to the function of stimulating the androgen receptors allocated in bone cells and muscular cells, leaving very little space for other significant effects.
 
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and their effects are almost completely reserved to the function of stimulating the androgen receptors allocated in bone cells and muscular cells
Go on, I'm interested. Will SARMs make me taller with a more impact resistant appearing face?
 
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keep delivering OP but like vasel gel they won't allow men to have this much control over their looks
 
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No I never took SARMs or any PED
 
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Skip the SARM bullshit and just do a test cycle if you're serious about looksmaxxing and don't run the risk of baldness.
 
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JFL, more gymcel bullshit, you can get a top 5-10% body completely natural with average-ish genetics, and you'll be far past the point of diminishing returns by the time you need PED's to make any more noticeable improvements.
 
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I tried rad, ostarine, mk677, GW, and S4. They made me feel weird while I was on them, and it took me some time to fully recover from feeling weird, but I took herbs for liver health like milk thistle and dandelion root to help the symptoms. The good news is I kept some muscle gains and had more strength after the cycle.
 
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SARMS junk and are for fake natty, there is no replacement for real anaboilc androgenic testosterone. Plus the side effects of SARMS are not well known compared to testosterone.

When you inject external testosterone, it disturb the negative feedback loop, so the hypothalamus detect you have to much and tell the pituitary to send a signal to the gonads to stop producing sperm/testosterone. That's why you need to take human chorionic gonadotropin hormone while doing anabolic steroid cycle, to keep the negative feedback loop "open".

Funny instead of prescribing 50mg (half of TRT) of test per week which wouldn't be enough to be suppressive but would benefits a men mental health by a lot. Doctors rather prescribe SSRI that fuck up your libido and has no remedy expect Viagra.

Take it from my personal experience, i got prescribed Citalopram and 4 days after taking this shit, i started having a numbness in my dick and difficulty to achieve orgasm, started reading about it, some dudes of forums and youtube that were 18-25 had no libido and couldn't get an erection anymore, i said fuck that shit.

Stopped and everything and it went back to normal. Of course my doctor wanted me to continue and wanted to prescribe Viagra if i had stronger side effect JFL
 
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I took Ligandrol [LGD-4033] for nearly 3 months, I can't say I noticed any improvement but I wasn't working out that regularly tbh. Really severe tiredness the first week, but felt good after that.

I would just gymcel natty or inject rather than take any sarms, plus they aren't that cheap, except for lgd-4033 which doesn't do much on its own.
 
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No I never took SARMs or any PED
We should all take growth hormones to get gigantism.

I tried rad, ostarine, mk677, GW, and S4. They made me feel weird while I was on them, and it took me some time to fully recover from feeling weird
How weird exactly?
 
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No, never tried it.
 
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I tried rad, ostarine, mk677, GW, and S4. They made me feel weird while I was on them, and it took me some time to fully recover from feeling weird, but I took herbs for liver health like milk thistle and dandelion root to help the symptoms. The good news is I kept some muscle gains and had more strength after the cycle.
same. I have tried a shit ton of these various nootropics, you always risk some retarded side effect, in some cases won't appear till months in and you'll be fucked.
 
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Might look at ANDARINE (S-4). Andarine helps to aid in fat loss better than other sarms it seems, while maintaining and helping build lean mass. It is given to muscular dystrophy patients.
 
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why take some bullshit when you can take tren
 
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SARMS junk and are for fake natty, there is no replacement for real anaboilc androgenic testosterone. Plus the side effects of SARMS are not well known compared to testosterone.

When you inject external testosterone, it disturb the negative feedback loop, so the hypothalamus detect you have to much and tell the pituitary to send a signal to the gonads to stop producing sperm/testosterone. That's why you need to take human chorionic gonadotropin hormone while doing anabolic steroid cycle, to keep the negative feedback loop "open".

Funny instead of prescribing 50mg (half of TRT) of test per week which wouldn't be enough to be suppressive but would benefits a men mental health by a lot. Doctors rather prescribe SSRI that fuck up your libido and has no remedy expect Viagra.

Take it from my personal experience, i got prescribed Citalopram and 4 days after taking this shit, i started having a numbness in my dick and difficulty to achieve orgasm, started reading about it, some dudes of forums and youtube that were 18-25 had no libido and couldn't get an erection anymore, i said fuck that shit.

Stopped and everything and it went back to normal. Of course my doctor wanted me to continue and wanted to prescribe Viagra if i had stronger side effect JFL
With you on this, have been on various SSRIs over my life and yeah dick totally stopped working.

Your idea of 50mg TRT, have you tried this and speak from experience or are you just deducing it? If it works am sure can find a Dr to give me a script
 
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Skip the SARM bullshit and just do a test cycle if you're serious about looksmaxxing and don't run the risk of baldness.
Test cycles absolutely run the risk of baldness lol.
 
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Does Tren create balding?
All anabolic steroids do - increased T > increased DHT > higher rate of MPB. Those resistant to it (Jeff Seid is a prime example) won't be affected though.
 
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All anabolic steroids do - increased T > increased DHT > higher rate of MPB. Those resistant to it (Jeff Seid is a prime example) won't be affected though.
Seid is of Faelid racial group (Germanic hunter gather cromagnoid). They never seem to go bald, its always Borrebies and Alpines that are prone to MPB.
 
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Seid is of Faelid racial group (Germanic hunter gather cromagnoid). They never seem to go bald, its always Borrebies and Alpines that are prone to MPB.
Interesting, I know next to nothing about race other than the basic shit. In any case MPB is a horrible disease. Ridiculous that health officials waste time spending resources on curing bullshit that only people who are 60+ get when millions of young lives are ruined by this torture every year.
 
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Test cycles absolutely run the risk of baldness lol.
Thats why I warned him against it if he runs a genetic risk of baldness
 
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I don't know anything about that
 
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With you on this, have been on various SSRIs over my life and yeah dick totally stopped working.

Your idea of 50mg TRT, have you tried this and speak from experience or are you just deducing it? If it works am sure can find a Dr to give me a script
"Several studies report an improvement in depression after 3 weeks (68) or 1 month (38). Increase in good mood and a decrease in bad mood were noted after 3 weeks (68) or after 30 days (14). There was also an increase in motivation after 30 days which was maintained thereafter (14). Two studies using the Hamilton Depression Rating Scale found an improvement in depression after 6 weeks (75) or 8 weeks (76). A number of psychological variables (increase in sociability, decrease in anxiety, increase in concentration, and self-confidence) were apparent after 3 weeks (68). A decrease in fatigue and listlessness was found after 1 month (31) or 6 weeks (68). A transient increase in anger/hostility was found in eugonadal men whose testosterone levels were raised above normal after 2 weeks (77)."

"It is very likely that the positive effects of testosterone on depressive symptoms start as early as after 3–6 weeks, but will most likely take 18–30 weeks to find the patient with a significant improvement. A recent study in hypogonadal men receiving i.m. testosterone undecanoate demonstrated such effects. It is remarkable that effects were more pronounced in men with the lowest baseline testosterone levels"

"Effects on libido

Effects on libido, sexual desire, sexual thoughts and fantasies and satisfaction with sexual life manifest themselves rather rapidly: after 3 weeks (68) or 30 days (14). Some studies have measured these effects only after 3 months (31)."

"Effects on erection/ejaculation
Effects on erection also appear rather rapidly: after 3 weeks (68). Increase in morning erections occur after 3 weeks (68). An increase in percentage of full erections and sexual performance and satisfaction with erections was noticed after 30 days (14, 69), an increase of ejaculations and sexual activity after 2 weeks (70) and 3 weeks respectively (68). In patients with veno-occlusive dysfunction, testosterone undecanoate restored erectile function after a minimum of 3 months and a maximum of 11.5 months "

"The International Index of Erectile Function is a reliable, self-administered measure of erectile function that is cross-culturally valid and psychometrically sound, with the sensitivity and specificity for detecting treatment-related changes in patients with erectile dysfunction. It has five domains: erectile function, orgasmic function, sexual desire, intercourse satisfaction, and overall satisfaction. Increases in the IIEF erectile function have been noted after 3 months (35, 40) but increases in IIEF sexual desire, intercourse satisfaction, and overall satisfaction appear already after 6 weeks (40). Maximal effects are usually achieved after 3–6 months (72) but may take even up to 1 year in individual cases (71). The data are summarized in Fig. 4. "

 
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"Several studies report an improvement in depression after 3 weeks (68) or 1 month (38). Increase in good mood and a decrease in bad mood were noted after 3 weeks (68) or after 30 days (14). There was also an increase in motivation after 30 days which was maintained thereafter (14). Two studies using the Hamilton Depression Rating Scale found an improvement in depression after 6 weeks (75) or 8 weeks (76). A number of psychological variables (increase in sociability, decrease in anxiety, increase in concentration, and self-confidence) were apparent after 3 weeks (68). A decrease in fatigue and listlessness was found after 1 month (31) or 6 weeks (68). A transient increase in anger/hostility was found in eugonadal men whose testosterone levels were raised above normal after 2 weeks (77)."

"It is very likely that the positive effects of testosterone on depressive symptoms start as early as after 3–6 weeks, but will most likely take 18–30 weeks to find the patient with a significant improvement. A recent study in hypogonadal men receiving i.m. testosterone undecanoate demonstrated such effects. It is remarkable that effects were more pronounced in men with the lowest baseline testosterone levels"

"Effects on libido

Effects on libido, sexual desire, sexual thoughts and fantasies and satisfaction with sexual life manifest themselves rather rapidly: after 3 weeks (68) or 30 days (14). Some studies have measured these effects only after 3 months (31)."

"Effects on erection/ejaculation
Effects on erection also appear rather rapidly: after 3 weeks (68). Increase in morning erections occur after 3 weeks (68). An increase in percentage of full erections and sexual performance and satisfaction with erections was noticed after 30 days (14, 69), an increase of ejaculations and sexual activity after 2 weeks (70) and 3 weeks respectively (68). In patients with veno-occlusive dysfunction, testosterone undecanoate restored erectile function after a minimum of 3 months and a maximum of 11.5 months "

"The International Index of Erectile Function is a reliable, self-administered measure of erectile function that is cross-culturally valid and psychometrically sound, with the sensitivity and specificity for detecting treatment-related changes in patients with erectile dysfunction. It has five domains: erectile function, orgasmic function, sexual desire, intercourse satisfaction, and overall satisfaction. Increases in the IIEF erectile function have been noted after 3 months (35, 40) but increases in IIEF sexual desire, intercourse satisfaction, and overall satisfaction appear already after 6 weeks (40). Maximal effects are usually achieved after 3–6 months (72) but may take even up to 1 year in individual cases (71). The data are summarized in Fig. 4. "

Does seem legit
 
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