Unattractive men should have taken a cue from women a long time ago

[Deleted member 27204]

...on how women treat men that are suffering.

Any man that says they've suffered as a result of how women treat them is always met with remarks like "sorry you couldn't get a date to prom", "sorry she didn't text you back", "sorry she dumped you", "mommy never loved you did she?, "you aren't entitled to sex"

but too many guys are willing to hear women out anytime they complain about men and always assume there's something they could do better, while not giving men that feel angry at women the same leniency. This isn't equality but favoritism. All it's done has made women think they are entitled to commitment from attractive men and feel entitled to treat every man that falls short of her standards as badly as she wants. It also furthers society seeing women as better than most men.

Instead guys should be responding to women complaining about men the same way women do instead of trying to come from a place of understanding and trying to be the bigger man. @Jerek brought up before how feminists are seen as the equivalent of incels https://incels.is/threads/feminists-are-our-equivalent.273570/. This shouldn't be ignored by unattractive men but embraced.

When women rant about men or bring up problems they have with men, they should be met with responses from guys like "sorry he didn't text you back sis", "sorry the man of your dreams didn't commit to you", "you aren't entitled to commitment", "daddy was never home was he?", "I'm sorry that happened to you, but that doesn't give you the right to hate all ugly men". This is in the interest of equality. Women aren't entitled to special treatment any more than men are. If you have a problem with this then you see women as inherently more deserving of special treatment, think women should be entitled to the benefit of the doubt unlike men and think that women have a right to treat ugly guys badly and be given the benefit of the doubt and/or have valid reasons for doing this but not the opposite if the roles were reversed. Or they at least cling to hope that hearing women out and being willing to argue with them will make women see men in a better light. No, only commitment to women from good looking guys (that otherwise normally sleep around and don't commit) can do that.

@LittleBoy @Gymcelled @ReturnOfSaddam
@Edmund_Kemper

Inb4 "and these incels wonder why they are alone when they advocate acting like this"
Women don't want to be with men they aren't sexually attracted to regardless how those men act.

"That won't make women like you incels more"
Women never liked incels to begin with no matter how incels acted. They'd hate us just the same but at least they wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt or serious attempt at conversation when they hate on men, even though men that hate on women aren't given the benefit of the doubt or serious attempt at conversation like women are. Even now there are still too many incels along with most men that believe women have more valid reasons to hate men than men have reasons to hate women and that women hating men is more justified than vice versa.


"This will make women hate men more"
So you are admitting that even though men don't do treat women this way many women still hate men? What good does it do to continue treating women so leniently compared to men? To be the "better" person? For who's sake? Society? Society isn't owed anything.

"You are behaving just like the feminists you claim to hate"
Good. Not just incels but men in general should treat women the same way women treat most men that have had difficulties with women. Doing otherwise only allows women hating on unattractive men to become socially acceptable and allows women's complaints to take precedent over any complaints from men more than ever.

TL;DR: Incels but also men overall should be as dismissive of women's concerns as women are of men's.


@Master @SergeantIncel @mental_out

 

[Words2_live_bye]

most men are bluepilled by society and themselves
they do not want to accept the truth of reality

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Tetra based High IQ thread

 

[Deleted member 27204]

most men are bluepilled by society and themselves
they do not want to accept the truth of reality

Blue pulled/redpilled, whatever. Women don't deserve the benefit of the doubt and effort for things unattractive men wouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt and effort about. But men acting this way has only enabled women to dismiss anything unattractive guys have to say while having free reign to trash men as much as they like.

Let women have each other's backs. Men that give women the benefit of the doubt and put effort into understanding women's concerns haven't made women's opinion of men any better. You want to make women's opinion of men better? Only commitment from good looking guys will do that @Mainländer

 

[Pain And Hatred]

It would never work because men are way too deep into the trap they set for themselves. "Women are angels and can do no wrong" that with women acting in this manner when it benefits them to do so ie in court situations, makes it so that men will never be dismissive and cater to women's needs.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

It would never work because men are way too deep into the trap they set for themselves. "Women are angels and can do no wrong" that with women acting in this manner when it benefits them to do so ie in court situations, makes it so that men will never be dismissive and cater to women's needs.

Ideally this is the bare minimum men can do. I've seen male feminists saying men need to do more. Fuck that, men need to do less just like women have whenever issues concerning men have come up.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

Ideally this is the bare minimum men can do. I've seen male feminists saying men need to do more. Fuck that, men need to do less just like women have.

I would say that we should have men become more hedonistic, although we need blue pilled men because society would fail without cucks and white knights.

 

[ReconElement]

Lol, unironically I glee when I watch dumb bluepiller normies suffer, don't worry about them bro, those duplicitous cucks bully us the most after foids.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

I would say that we should have men become more hedonistic, although we need blue pilled men because society would fail without cucks and white knights.

Men just need to stop giving the benefit of the doubt and effort toward understanding and helping women that hate on unattractive men. Only commitment from chad (aka fuckbois, cads, heartbreakers) will make women happy and it's time men acknowledge that and stop delusionally thinking that siding with women is going to change that.

 

[ReconElement]

I would say that we should have men become more hedonistic, although we need blue pilled men because society would fail without cucks and white knights.

Men cannot be hedonistic cos being hedonistic or stoic depends on your face and LMS, only Chads and foids can afford being hedonistic.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Lol, unironically I glee when I watch dumb bluepiller normies suffer, don't worry about them bro, those duplicitous cucks bully us the most after foids.

The problem is we as unattractive men suffer too from women being privileged to act in ways we can't.

 

[ReconElement]

The problem is we as unattractive men suffer too from women being privileged to act in ways we can't.

But that's something beyond our control, we cannot do anything about it.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

But that's something beyond our control, we cannot do anything about it.

One small thing we can do is to convince other guys to stop arguing with or engaging with women that proclaim to hate on or be hurt by other men and make it clear that the only thing that would make those women not hate on men is a relationship/commitment from a good looking guy they are sexually attracted to. This is what we should be blackpilling other guys about @Robtical

 

[Robtical]

When women rant about men or bring up problems they have with men, they should be met with responses from guys like "sorry he didn't text you back sis", "sorry the man of your dreams didn't commit to you", "you aren't entitled to commitment", "daddy was never home was he?", "I'm sorry that happened to you, but that doesn't give you the right to hate all ugly men".

"Who hurt you?" and "looks like your personality detector is broken" are good too.

Women aren't entitled to special treatment any more than men are. If you have a problem with this then you see women as inherently more deserving of special treatment, think women should be entitled to the benefit of the doubt unlike men and think that women have a right to treat ugly guys badly and be given the benefit of the doubt and/or have valid reasons for doing this but not the opposite if the roles were reversed.

Anyone who thinks foids should have special treatment is a soy cuck.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

"Who hurt you?" and "looks like your personality detector is broken" are good too.

"He didn't care to ask you how you were doing? Looks like he dodged a bullet!"

Anyone who thinks foids should have special treatment is a soy cuck.

Men need to take concerns and issues facing women as seriously as women take concerns and issues facing men

 

[Robtical]

One small thing we can do is to convince other guys to stop arguing with or engaging with women that proclaim to hate on or be hurt by other men and make it clear that the only thing that would make those women not hate on men is a relationship/commitment from a good looking guy they are sexually attracted to. This is what we should be blackpilling other guys about @Robtical

We should tell them that rostiesa are chad chasing whores that should never be helped by non-chads, or have their taxes paid to them.

Men need to take concerns and issues facing women as seriously as women take concerns and issues facing men

Foids who fuck boys 18 and under should also start being beaten in public and in prisons.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

We should tell them that rostiesa are chad chasing whores that should never be helped by non-chads, or have their taxes paid to them.

The only thing that will make women happy and not hate men is if good looking guys commit to them.

Foids who fuck boys 18 and under should also start being beaten in public and in prisons.

Female teachers that sleep with their students should be registered as sex offenders and be known as pedophiles.

 

[Robtical]

The only thing that will make women happy and not hate men is if good looking guys commit to them.

Only cucks care about putting whore's happiness ahead of their own.

Female teachers that sleep with their students should go on the sex offender list and be known as pedophiles.

And beaten often the same way that happens to men.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

And beaten often the same way that happens to men.

With no extra precaution provided by the guards, just like with what happens to men locked up for the same thing.

 

[Robtical]

With no extra precaution provided by the guards, just like with what happens to men locked up for the same thing.

They should also let them get raped by ugly fat lesbians in prison.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

They should also let them get raped by ugly fat lesbians in prison.

Equality has a long way to go my friend.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

Men just need to stop giving the benefit of the doubt and effort toward understanding and helping women that hate on unattractive men. Only commitment from chad (aka fuckbois, cads, heartbreakers) will make women happy and it's time men acknowledge that and stop delusionally thinking that siding with women is going to change that.

I agree with you but the male ego is really what holds us back you see it in our own communities, incels shit on other incels because of x-factors, and incels thinking they're better than other incels because of y factors. This ego we have will make it so that men would never side with other men. If a woman is shitting on a man because of dicksize the dickmogger will most likely join in on the ridicule I've seen it happen, I've even seen kids who were bullied join in on bullying other kids. The constant need for validation from whores makes it nearly impossible for men to work together against them.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

I agree with you but the male ego is really what holds us back you see it in our own communities, incels shit on other incels because of x-factors, and incels thinking they're better than other incels because of y factors. This ego we have will make it so that men would never side with other men. If a woman is shitting on a man because of dicksize the dickmogger will most likely join in on the ridicule I've seen it happen, I've even seen kids who were bullied join in on bullying other kids. The constant need for validation from whores makes it nearly impossible for men to work together against them.

This requires little effort from guys though compared to other things.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

Men cannot be hedonistic cos being hedonistic or stoic depends on your face and LMS, only Chads and foids can afford being hedonistic.

Tera-cope you can live a hedonistic lifestyle without being chad it's just that your options are limited.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

"You are behaving just like the feminists you claim to hate"
Good. Not just incels but men in general should treat women the same way women treat most men that have had difficulties with women. Doing otherwise only allows women hating on unattractive men to become socially acceptable and allows women's complaints to take precedent over any complaints from men more than ever.

They always want males to take the higher road because they know if men use the same tactics women have used in the last half a century, the results would would wipe civilization out.

Retribution will come one day, and this cucked English world order will collapse.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

They always want males to take the higher road because they know if men use the same tactics women have used in the last half a century, the results would would wipe civilization out.

Retribution will come one day, and this cucked English world order will collapse.

This forum and others in the manosphere are proof not every guy will take the high road even if society tries to shame them into that and that it's possible for many men to stop giving women more consideration than they give men.

 

[ReconElement]

Tera-cope you can live a hedonistic lifestyle without being chad it's just that your options are limited.

You sound like tera-cope, not me.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

This requires little effort from guys though compared to other things.

We should encourage men to shame women as they shame us I completely agree with you, however, I can't see that happening with the thirst coming from men today.

You sound like tera-cope, not me.

Explain, because maybe I don't understand.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

We should encourage men to shame women as they shame us I completely agree with you, however, I can't see that happening with the thirst coming from men today.

The thing is a lot of guys are still capable of making careless dismissive remarks to women even if they still thirst after them. It's just that many men wrongly believe that they can fix women that say they hate men. When really they need to know that only commitment/a relationship from good looking guys that those women are getting pumped and dumped by are the only thing that will fix those women's hatred if men. Most men have some idea of this but reject the idea because they think it's too simple. But really the explanation is that simple. This is a potentially devastating but also very simple and effective blackpill because it does not necessarily require men to stop thirsting after, being attracted to or (if they are good looking enough) getting with women @Robtical @JosefMengelecel

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

This forum and others in the manosphere are proof not every guy will take the high road even if society tries to shame them into that and that it's possible for many men to stop giving women more consideration than they give men

The fact SIMP is getting popular means at least the basic redpill is getting more popular with normies, and even the blackpill with dating sites.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

The fact SIMP is getting popular means at least the basic redpill is getting more popular with normies, and even the blackpill with dating sites.

This is good but more specifically men need to realize that the main reason women are hateful toward men is that those women can't get good looking guys to commit to a relationship with them and women feel entitled to that.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

This is good but more specifically men need to realize that the main reason women are hateful toward men is that those women can't get good looking guys to commit to a relationship with them and women feel entitled to that.

that will take a long time for men to collectively come to terms with I feel

 

[Robtical]

When really they need to know that only commitment/a relationship from good looking guys that those women are getting pumped and dumped by are the only thing that will fix those women's hatred if men.

What will make them happy is retarded because all foids can't get commitment from the top 10% good looking men.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

that will take a long time for men to collectively come to terms with I feel

This is the blackpill most easily spread though because even most men have some idea of it. They just don't believe it's that simple and that they can be the guy that fixes things without the women getting commitment from a good looking guy.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

The thing is a lot of guys are still capable of making careless dismissive remarks to women even if they still thirst after them. It's just that many men wrongly believe that they can fix women that say they hate men. When really they need to know that only commitment/a relationship from good looking guys that those women are getting pumped and dumped by are the only thing that will fix those women's hatred if men. Most men have some idea of this but reject the idea because they think it's too simple. But really the explanation is that simple. This is a potentially devastating but also very simple and effective blackpill because it does not necessarily require men to stop thirsting after, being attracted to or (if they are good looking enough) getting with women @Robtical @JosefMengelecel

I think that a more effective way of having this happen would be to teach them somethings about the redpill (Not the fagass pua shit) but about female nature,hypergamy,etc blackpilling them would be too harsh for them to take making them instantly reject it, the red pill is easier to digest so.This would stop men from trying to save women because the redpill stresses the importance of not saving dam,aged women.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

What will make them happy is retarded because all foids can't get commitment from the top 10% good looking men.

But guys need to know that's the only thing that will make women happy so that they stop spending so much time and effort on women that proclaim to hate or have issues with men.

I think that a more effective way of having this happen would be to teach them somethings about the redpill (Not the fagass pua shit) but about female nature,hypergamy,etc blackpilling them would be too harsh for them to take making them instantly reject it, the red pill is easier to digest so.This would stop men from trying to save women because the redpill stresses the importance of not saving dam,aged women.

But whichever way it's done it needs to be made explicit to men how only commitment/a relationship from the top percentage of good looking guys is the only thing that can fix women's proclaimed hatred of men. This isn't stressed enough even in the redpill but it instinctually makes sense. Men just have to realize it's that simple and that all their effort spent trying to understand and argue with women is wasted and will not change women's minds.

 

[Robtical]

But guys need to know that's the only thing that will make women happy so that they stop spending so much time and effort on women that proclaim to hate or have issues with men.

In these cucked times non-chads won't make chad chasing whores happy, so they'd be cucked if they still tried. They should only help foids who appreciate them.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

In these cucked times non-chads won't make chad chasing whores happy, so they'd be cucked if they still tried. They should only help foids who appreciate them.

I don't think you completely understand. It should be made clear to the average guy that the only thing that will fix women who proclaim to hate men is commitment from the top percentage of good looking guys. If some still can't accept that then they are as hopeless as a woman that thinks she can change a bad boy.

For all other men this will automatically cut down on them sympathizing with women and women feeling entitled to commitment from good looking guys and the rationalizations they come up for it will become less socially acceptable. This weakens feminism and women's claims of being mistreated by and oppressed by men.

 

[Robtical]

I don't think you completely understand. It should be made clear to the average guy that the only thing that will fix women who proclaim to hate men is commitment from the top percentage of good looking guys. If some still can't accept that then they are as hopeless as a woman that thinks she can change a bad boy.

No one should care about rosties who hate men. Whoever cares about that is a soyfag. People don't sympathize with men who hate foids.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

No one should care about rosties who hate men. Whoever cares about that is a soyfag. People don't sympathize with men who hate foids.

But guys realizing women that hate men only do that because they feel entitled to commitment from good looking guys will sympathize less with them. Don't you see? It can lessen the power of women proclaiming to hate men and effort and attention given to those women as a result.

 

[Gymcelled]

We're told to have a positive outlook and to think of ourselves as slayer when all our life we've received signals making it clear that we're worth nothing, if not less than nothing

 

[Robtical]

But guys realizing women that hate men only do that because they feel entitled to commitment from good looking guys will sympathize less with them. Don't you see? It can lessen the power of women proclaiming to hate men and effort and attention given to them as a result.

Yes, it can be one way to make cucks sympathize with chad chasers less.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Yes, it can be one way to make cucks sympathize with chad chasers less.

And it doesn't require men to stop chasing after women necessarily either. All men need to understand is that women's anger at men is mostly from being passed up by good looking guys and all the supposed ways they say men have treated them like trash really stem from not receiving emotional and sexual commitment from a guy they were sexually attracted to or that they thought was good looking and on their level.

 

[Robtical]

And it doesn't require men to stop chasing after women necessarily either. All men need to understand is that women's anger at men is mostly from being passed up by good looking guys and all the supposed ways they say men have treated them like trash really stem from not receiving emotional and sexual commitment from a guy they were sexually attracted to or that they thought was good looking and on their level.

That type of entitlement should make a normal man disgusted, that's why cucks keep wanting to believe foids mainly choose based on personality so to them rosties won't seem like greedy assholes.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

That type of entitlement should make a normal man disgusted, that's why cucks keep wanting to believe foids mainly choose based on personality so they won't seem like greedy assholes.

And so this is what we should be blackpilling other guys about. On an instinctual level even they can understand. Again they can see where this is coming from but they don't see how it's really that simple and there's not deeper or systematic issues involved. Women want commitment from hot guys and get butthurt and claim to hate men when they don't get this.

 

[Robtical]

And so this is what we should be blackpilling other guys about. On an instinctual level even they can understand. Again they can see where this is coming from but they don't see how it's really that simple.

Hopefully they can learn and stop using low-t soy logic to try and dismiss reality.

 

[ReturnOfSaddam]

Legit as fuck. Unfortunately most men are too thirsty to ever do this.

They will always worship foids and tolerate/listen to the bullshit they come out with. It's pathetic to see tbh. So often I watch some guy just pretend to care about what some girl he's talking to is saying and it's the most inane shit imaginable, you just know if it was a guy talking he'd be like "what the fuck are you talking about?" but because he wants to sleep with her he's on his best behaviour.

This translates into men listening to/pretending to care about feminism and ignoring their bullshit. Most men are far too terrified to ever insult a woman back. They will always get special treatment. But I do agree 1000% that blackpilled incels should be doing this.

 

[waste matter]

Tera Based and High IQ Thread

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

I ain't no misogynist for no reason buddy boyo

 

[cvh1991]

...on how women treat men that are suffering.

Any man that says they've suffered as a result of how women treat them is always met with remarks like "sorry you couldn't get a date to prom", "sorry she didn't text you back", "sorry she dumped you", "mommy never loved you did she?, "you aren't entitled to sex"

but too many guys are willing to hear women out anytime they complain about men and always assume there's something they could do better, while not giving men that feel angry at women the same leniency. This isn't equality but favoritism. All it's done has made women think they are entitled to commitment from attractive men and feel entitled to treat every man that falls short of her standards as badly as she wants. It also furthers society seeing women as better than most men.

Instead guys should be responding to women complaining about men the same way women do instead of trying to come from a place of understanding and trying to be the bigger man. @Jerek brought up before how feminists are seen as the equivalent of incels https://incels.is/threads/feminists-are-our-equivalent.273570/. This shouldn't be ignored by unattractive men but embraced.

When women rant about men or bring up problems they have with men, they should be met with responses from guys like "sorry he didn't text you back sis", "sorry the man of your dreams didn't commit to you", "you aren't entitled to commitment", "daddy was never home was he?", "I'm sorry that happened to you, but that doesn't give you the right to hate all ugly men". This is in the interest of equality. Women aren't entitled to special treatment any more than men are. If you have a problem with this then you see women as inherently more deserving of special treatment, think women should be entitled to the benefit of the doubt unlike men and think that women have a right to treat ugly guys badly and be given the benefit of the doubt and/or have valid reasons for doing this but not the opposite if the roles were reversed. Or they at least cling to hope that hearing women out and being willing to argue with them will make women see men in a better light. No, only commitment to women from good looking guys (that otherwise normally sleep around and don't commit) can do that.

@LittleBoy @Gymcelled @ReturnOfSaddam
@Edmund_Kemper

Inb4 "and these incels wonder why they are alone when they advocate acting like this"
Women don't want to be with men they aren't sexually attracted to regardless how those men act.

"That won't make women like you incels more"
Women never liked incels to begin with no matter how incels acted. They'd hate us just the same but at least they wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt or serious attempt at conversation when they hate on men, even though men that hate on women aren't given the benefit of the doubt or serious attempt at conversation like women are. Even now there are still too many incels along with most men that believe women have more valid reasons to hate men than men have reasons to hate women and that women hating men is more justified than vice versa.


"This will make women hate men more"
So you are admitting that even though men don't do treat women this way many women still hate men? What good does it do to continue treating women so leniently compared to men? To be the "better" person? For who's sake? Society? Society isn't owed anything.

"You are behaving just like the feminists you claim to hate"
Good. Not just incels but men in general should treat women the same way women treat most men that have had difficulties with women. Doing otherwise only allows women hating on unattractive men to become socially acceptable and allows women's complaints to take precedent over any complaints from men more than ever.

TL;DR: Incels but also men overall should be as dismissive of women's concerns as women are of men's.


@Master @SergeantIncel @mental_out

Based and definitely true. Sadly most men are indoctrinated with the blue pill and also are so desperate for female attention that they’ll fellate women and as a result women become extremely spoiled and delusional. Women’s view of things is not objective at all because everyone takes care of them and values their “”””””problems”””””” even when they’re just being selfish deluded hypocritical assholes who just want to have their cake and eat it too.

I ain't no misogynist for no reason buddy boyo

It is dumb that being critical of women even when it’s valid gets you labeled bigoted and dismissed. I guess I just need to learn that in our society women are perfect and can’t do anything wrong and everything is men’s fault.