Unpopular opinion: I don’t think ugly women have it as easy as people here claim

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I’m not saying they can be incel, clearly sex is always available as a woman. I’m also not saying their lives are anywhere near as difficult as ugly men, but that bar is so low that it is miles beneath the tectonic plates and into the earth’s mantle anyway.

As we are highly social animals; Being a low status human of any kind is tough, and women are extremely judgemental of not just men’s looks but also each other’s. Humans don’t really care about how good their life is, or even how high their social standing is when considered in isolation, they are only concerned with how good their life is / how high their social standing is relative to other people.

It doesn’t matter that unattractive women can still get laid, or if they have male orbiters or not. As is the case with all humans, they are very adept at spotting injustice in the world when it is enacted against them, and the worship of attractive women as goddesses is one of the most overtly observable aspects of our culture as a species and (justifiably so imo) rubs them up the wrong way in the same way Chad’s life does to us.

Many women often stress that it is what is on the inside of a person that counts, yet at the same time it is clear that they can’t deny to themselves the intrinsic relationship between beauty and their value as a person, shown in their refusal to admit that ‘ugliness’ can even exist as a female trait. What I mean by this is that It is taboo to say that even an obese woman isn’t beautiful, not even to say that she’s ugly, merely to say that she ‘isn’t beautiful’ is enough to be considered a misogynist. If what’s on the inside is truly what’s important then why does it matter if a woman is unattractive or not?

Regardless of this collective denialism, Ugly women know that they exist - because perceived ugliness is an evolutionary phenomenon we are genetically programmed to pick up on. Believe me, they are very aware of how important looks are to their social standing even amongst other women. For some reason we seem to buy into the idea that men can have worth beyond their level of attractiveness (though practically speaking this is also by and large a lie) so it is in no way taboo to say that an obese man isn’t beautiful or handsome. But the thought of not being beautiful is so universally understood to be insulting to a woman that paradoxically even the mention of an obese woman as ‘not beautiful‘ is now tantamount to a social crime against womanhood itself, if women genuinely believed they had worth beyond their looks this wouldn’t be the case. The running line would be ‘ugly women have as much worth as beautiful women’ instead of just ‘every woman is beautiful’ which is the established platitude we currently run with.

But don’t let this convince you that everyone actually buys into the fact that every woman really is beautiful. The reason it is such a crime to state the existence of female ugliness publicly is exactly because of the fear that women have that if they aren’t beautiful then they have no value as a human.

It’s actually less taboo to call a Stacy ‘not beautiful’ than it is to say the same of an obese woman covered head to toe in cystic acne. This is because there is truth in the second example and an insult is only insulting when there is an element of truth in it.

Unattractive women live in constant fear of this fact, which is why any dissent from this narrative is met with such forceful suppression, and you should not think they are valued by society just because there are desperate males who are willing to validate them.
Oh fuck all of this. You might as well delete this post and I’m not even reading half this. Juggernaut law will carry any shitty foid past their makeup kit level of looks.

One time my old friend told me, “that girl you think nobody wants to date but you, there’s another guy that thinks the same exact thing.” They can get men at the drop of a hat and if anything have a surplus of options these days. ok I’m done ranting about this soy post
 
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When an ugly girl can look like a dude and have multiple kids and they all have separate fathers, I'm not going to read all you post there.
They get all the fucking they want, they get all the child support from all those multiple fathers too.
They might not have a steady boyfriend or husband, but they're still living much better than any incel. Much much better.
 
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The reality is all they have to do is date anyone other than a chad. Nearly all women are dealt a winning hand in life. Some are just to stupid to play it correctly and experience some minor discomfort.
I have sympathy for burn victims and genuinely deformed women. No non-deformed woman is too naturally ugly to find a mate.
 
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The only thinh I would like to say is that there are some masochistic autists who think Ugly women have a higher SMV than Chads, and its ridiculous. Chad is the finish line, he SMV mogs ugly women and probably even average women
 
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Humans don’t really care about how good their life is, or even how high their social standing is when considered in isolation, they are only concerned with how good their life is / how high their social standing is relative to other people.
This is categorically false. While it's true that there is an almost instinctual tendency to compare your lot with that of your neighbour's, there is some baseline quality of life that is generally considered to be "good," with plenty of room for "great" and "amazing."

What that baseline is usually converges to a handful of things that are considered basics, as well as comforts, such as a well-paying, stable job, a house, a loving partner, and a healthy social circle. I'd argue that this certainly qualifies as a good life for well north of 95% of people.

But don’t let this convince you that everyone actually buys into the fact that every woman really is beautiful. The reason it is such a crime to state the existence of female ugliness publicly is exactly because of the fear that women have that if they aren’t beautiful then they have no value as a human.
Deep down, they know that this is their only value to others - beauty and fertility.

In a gynocentric society pointing out harsh truths about women is an express ticket to villainy. If you say the kind of shit about women that would result in you being castigated and potentially losing your career in the West in a place like Russia or China, nobody would bat an eye.
 
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This site is becoming more bluepilled by the day.
 
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I agree.
I think people here exaggerate reality to the point of being binary. They might be doing it for shits and giggles, or they might be that deluded, I honestly cant tell.
Also there is a lot of bait and switch unfortunately, similar to how foidists claim "Foidism is for equalitea, check the definition you misogynist!"

Now obviously, sex is a lot easier for a woman to get. But when you put forward the idea that inceldom might mean something beyond that, like not being able to get a mutual relationship, I think there are women out there who would qualify. And I know for a fact that this forum thinks inceldom means more than just sex.

With that said, most of the views here are caused by isolation and segregation. Similar to women's stupid morning shows. Some people end up saying stupid shit, and it doesnt get challenged because filthy centrists ( :feelskek: ) keep their heads down, and there are no men around to oppose.

Dont get me wrong, I am FOR segregation of genders in this forum. Simping knows no bounds. But you also have to keep in mind that it will cause some weird ideas floating around.
I think the problem with this view point is that it leads to people thinking fat and ugly women's problems are on the same level as ours when in reality they are on the level of problems mid-high tier normie males suffer. Going decades without receiving so much as a compliment in terms of validation from other people is incomprehensible to even the ugliest woman.
 
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ugly woman- just put more makeup on and act like a ho, you will get dick as long as you have a hole
 
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Look at how far niggas will go just to simp.

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Forced meme. In what world am I simping? First line of this thread I outlined that ugly men have it way worse and women can’t be incel. Also what brownie points do you think I’m going to get off women for an anonymous post on an incel forum that will never be attributed to me in real life? Jesus, some people are so low IQ it’s a wonder they are able to read, though I doubt you read what I wrote anyway.
This is categorically false. While it's true that there is an almost instinctual tendency to compare your lot with that of your neighbour's, there is some baseline quality of life that is generally considered to be "good," with plenty of room for "great" and "amazing."
You’d honestly be surprised how little people can be happy on if they don’t have other people’s easier lives rubbed in their face as a point of comparison. I have visited Africa and rural South America and I was extremely surprised as to how much happier the people there were compared to where I live in the UK and they were living in corrugated iron huts.
 
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I have visited Africa and rural South America and I was extremely surprised as to how much happier the people there were compared to where I live in the UK and they were living in corrugated iron huts
100% true. They are far happier than we are controlling for other factors like poverty, lack of basic needs, etc no doubt.
 
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High IQ thread, however their lives are still x10000000000000 times easier than ugly men.
 
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I’m not saying they can be incel, clearly sex is always available as a woman. I’m also not saying their lives are anywhere near as difficult as ugly men, but that bar is so low that it is miles beneath the tectonic plates and into the earth’s mantle anyway.

As we are highly social animals; Being a low status human of any kind is tough, and women are extremely judgemental of not just men’s looks but also each other’s. Humans don’t really care about how good their life is, or even how high their social standing is when considered in isolation, they are only concerned with how good their life is / how high their social standing is relative to other people.

It doesn’t matter that unattractive women can still get laid, or if they have male orbiters or not. As is the case with all humans, they are very adept at spotting injustice in the world when it is enacted against them, and the worship of attractive women as goddesses is one of the most overtly observable aspects of our culture as a species and (justifiably so imo) rubs them up the wrong way in the same way Chad’s life does to us.

Many women often stress that it is what is on the inside of a person that counts, yet at the same time it is clear that they can’t deny to themselves the intrinsic relationship between beauty and their value as a person, shown in their refusal to admit that ‘ugliness’ can even exist as a female trait. What I mean by this is that It is taboo to say that even an obese woman isn’t beautiful, not even to say that she’s ugly, merely to say that she ‘isn’t beautiful’ is enough to be considered a misogynist. If what’s on the inside is truly what’s important then why does it matter if a woman is unattractive or not?

Regardless of this collective denialism, Ugly women know that they exist - because perceived ugliness is an evolutionary phenomenon we are genetically programmed to pick up on. Believe me, they are very aware of how important looks are to their social standing even amongst other women. For some reason we seem to buy into the idea that men can have worth beyond their level of attractiveness (though practically speaking this is also by and large a lie) so it is in no way taboo to say that an obese man isn’t beautiful or handsome. But the thought of not being beautiful is so universally understood to be insulting to a woman that paradoxically even the mention of an obese woman as ‘not beautiful‘ is now tantamount to a social crime against womanhood itself, if women genuinely believed they had worth beyond their looks this wouldn’t be the case. The running line would be ‘ugly women have as much worth as beautiful women’ instead of just ‘every woman is beautiful’ which is the established platitude we currently run with.

But don’t let this convince you that everyone actually buys into the fact that every woman really is beautiful. The reason it is such a crime to state the existence of female ugliness publicly is exactly because of the fear that women have that if they aren’t beautiful then they have no value as a human.

It’s actually less taboo to call a Stacy ‘not beautiful’ than it is to say the same of an obese woman covered head to toe in cystic acne. This is because there is truth in the second example and an insult is only insulting when there is an element of truth in it.

Unattractive women live in constant fear of this fact, which is why any dissent from this narrative is met with such forceful suppression, and you should not think they are valued by society just because there are desperate males who are willing to validate them.
really interesting post,
But I want to insist on the fact that the existence of desperate males who are willing to validate them means that you have value for at least 45% of society compared to 95% for Stacy,
Still way better than incels..
In terms of evolution, Why do you need beauty? to attract a mate.
As a normally built foid : you can't hunt like a noramlly built male, can't lift, can't run as fast if you see danger, can't defend yourself against 95% of the male population+50% of the foid population, your only super power is to get someone to do it for you
YES, beauty for a foid is like getting a job for us,
If you have a super good job, it's amazing! But you can live as a wageslave if you have no skills (ugly as a foid)
But those modern times have flipped everything,
foids think they can survive without us (that's of course an illusion that PLEASEGOD coronachan will expose)
So they start selecting mates like us, based on beauty (partially of course, but essentially)
 
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The make up industry is built upon foids insecurity. They are all fighting to the highest tier chad, if a lower smv foid cant get chad she will take on different avenues to be gratified. For example fat foids will join womens groups and will parade on about their own "beauty" when deep down they know well they are not on par with stacies slaying. Im sure the experience is exhausting but the difference is they will still find a betabux to settle with. For an incel? Your 70 year old rotting corpse will be slowly being consumed by your cats for weeks before neighbors begin to smell the stench for your body to get noticed. Thats the difference.
 
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yeah but for a foid you have to be 2/10 or lower ugly for it to be over. you can even be fat because some guys will like it. for men you have to be fit and not manlet and 5+ at the very least to even live
 
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