Forget what you need her to look like. Suppose you were in a committed relationship. But the woman you're with is ultratraditional, and there will be no sex, no "heavy petting," no sending of nudes, no deprecative dirty talk (No calling her at work and making her tell you she's a whore or a piece of shit or whatever), none of that. Until after marriage. And marriage won't come for many years. And once you're married you still can't call her a piece of shit. Probably no nudes either. Just sex. Would you stay?
When people talk about incels they don't really talk about how we allegedly want supermodels. Not as much as they talk about the foundations of the relationships we want. Whatever our future girlfriends and wives look like, people say the relationships will be toxic. They think if we get a relationship, we'll try to bend her to our will. Or look for someone whose will is weak anyway. Maybe we don't tell her "If you love me you'll call yourself a whore on the phone." Maybe instead we wait for her to relinquish because we know she wants us to stay. Maybe we wait for her to say "Please don't leave, okay I'll call myself a whore on the phone." And that would be bad.
But on the other hand, there's nothing wrong with wanting nudes from a woman who will send them. If a woman doesn't want to send nudes, she has that right and that should be respected. But don't you then have the right to go find a woman who will send you nudes? Who will have sex with you before marriage, et cetera? You have needs too and your needs matter. So do you have the confidence in yourself to say "You have your needs, I have mine, you have every right to wanna be a fuckin' Mormon, but I don't wanna do that, so we should probably see other people?"
When people talk about incels they don't really talk about how we allegedly want supermodels. Not as much as they talk about the foundations of the relationships we want. Whatever our future girlfriends and wives look like, people say the relationships will be toxic. They think if we get a relationship, we'll try to bend her to our will. Or look for someone whose will is weak anyway. Maybe we don't tell her "If you love me you'll call yourself a whore on the phone." Maybe instead we wait for her to relinquish because we know she wants us to stay. Maybe we wait for her to say "Please don't leave, okay I'll call myself a whore on the phone." And that would be bad.
But on the other hand, there's nothing wrong with wanting nudes from a woman who will send them. If a woman doesn't want to send nudes, she has that right and that should be respected. But don't you then have the right to go find a woman who will send you nudes? Who will have sex with you before marriage, et cetera? You have needs too and your needs matter. So do you have the confidence in yourself to say "You have your needs, I have mine, you have every right to wanna be a fuckin' Mormon, but I don't wanna do that, so we should probably see other people?"
