I would have agreed before having this recent experience, but I would now only agree in cases of 6'3-4 and above. There are so many decently framed average height men out there, trueframecels stick out like a sore thumb.
No shitty frame has ever been hidden by fat, shoulders are barely affected by bodyfat. Muscle does not matter much, yeah maybe you can build up your shoulder muscles a bit, but it can only do so much. If you have this body type adding and maintaining muscle mass is a nightmare, with minimal results.
Yeah okay.This is how manlets look when they're by themselves
What is his height though? His gymcoping and standing more or less naked while the other guy is clothed just makes it worse, this is frame we are talking about, and even if he has a decent one for his size he is a turbomanlet by the looks of things.When they're around regular sized people (this is the same guy)
Fat 100 percent hides a shitty frame. Look at before and afters of people losing weight that don't build that much muscle.
None of those people has a shitty frame, as far as I can tell. Here is what I'm talking about:Fat 100 percent hides a shitty frame. Look at before and afters of people losing weight that don't build that much muscle.
Jeff Nippard is 5ft5. My point is that if two people gymmaxed almost always the taller guy will have a better body and most framecels you see are just low body fat and don't lift weights unless they have some disorder like marfans or klinefelters.
People would say the guy on the left is a framecel and there is him in the after.
Massive fucking cope
Fat 100 percent hides a shitty frame. Look at before and afters of people losing weight that don't build that much muscle.
Jeff Nippard is 5ft5. My point is that if two people gymmaxed almost always the taller guy will have a better body and most framecels you see are just low body fat and don't lift weights unless they have some disorder like marfans or klinefelters.
People would say the guy on the left is a framecel and there is him in the after.
Yeah id rather be the one on the right.
That doesn't happen in real life unless the guy has marfan syndrome.
It's suppose to be an example.
doesnt matter how you look by yourself. female attraction is 100% if you BRUTALLY MOG other dudes around you.Well build v shaped manlet. You can always hide a shitty frame with fat or because you have long limbs you have more room for muscle growth and will still look way better compared to manlets.
This is how manlets look when they're by themselves
When they're around regular sized people (this is the same guy)
absolutely retarded to say the last dude in before is a framelet. jesusFat 100 percent hides a shitty frame. Look at before and afters of people losing weight that don't build that much muscle.
Jeff Nippard is 5ft5. My point is that if two people gymmaxed almost always the taller guy will have a better body and most framecels you see are just low body fat and don't lift weights unless they have some disorder like marfans or klinefelters.
People would say the guy on the left is a framecel and there is him in the after.
Normies think that skinny automatically=bad frame and shitty genetics. If I just showed you the before most people even here would say he's a twink with terrible genetics.
I am not that much of a retard when it comes to this. That dude had a solid starting frame.
Here's another example.
Op said that he sees framecels in real life. My point is that the example he shows never happens in real life and that almost always a gymmaxxed taller guy will always look bigger than a short guy.
Both of these pictures exploit angles.Here's another example.
On the left everyone except for black pill people would call this guy a giga genetic trash framecel that will never get big even with steroids.
Op said that he sees framecels in real life. My point is that the example he shows never happens in real life and that almost always a gymmaxxed taller guy will always look bigger than a short guy.
I’m 5’8 myself, and while I despise my height, it is still taller than the average woman. So I would take the former, although you’re not exactly doing much better.
This hypothetical was for an equal face though.
I disagree. Marfan syndrome is more deform tier, usually disproportionate, and Vshape intact. There are maybe marfan affected individuals that could fall within what I mean, but there are also ones who are just small without such a label. Many of these syndromes are just grouped phenomena which can also occur outside of these typical scenarios. Does not really mean much in my mind. What I can see is what I can see, and there are many nordics and africans who have ridiculously narrow shoulders. Just like the picture i made, and I did not even see many of them shirtless, so I might even be underestimating it.
Muscles is not intended to be the point, even though wide framed men seem to have an easier time to pack it on generally. Wide clavicle width was referenced for a reason.
Once again muscles are ultracope, it's all about how much lateral growth there are in your bones. Face width aswell as frame is very important, ahead of some usually cited top 3 factors.
He even talks about how he was treated with disrespect when he was skinny because skinny=weak terrible frame to normies.
Well build v shaped manlet. You can always hide a shitty frame with fat or because you have long limbs you have more room for muscle growth and will still look way better compared to manlets.
This is how manlets look when they're by themselves
When they're around regular sized people (this is the same guy)
He's won tons of competitions. Tons of people take steroids and don't look anywhere close to as good as him.
Mogged by normal person. Brutal.When they're around regular sized people (this is the same guy)
because tren is harder to get than "regular" anabolic steroids and also much more dangerous. if youre on alot of tren and eating alot it is literally physically impossible to not get huge, even if you did 0 exercise.
He mogs the people he is competing against. He won competitions. They're also on tren. if people saw
feelskek the before of him everyone would say he's a genetic trash framecel and he ended up winning competitions.tbh, roiding doesnt mean shit for your starting frame. when people say "frame", they usually refer to your natty one. of course, normshits are too stupid to account for things like body fat which makes it seem wider though.
well some foids consider 6 foot short jfl and ill pick 6 foot over your 5'8 guy
Halfthor Bjornsonn undeniably has a frame that is extraordinary which is inherent in him. Even if he did not train for strongman, he would still dwarf people of average heightPeople would say the guy on the left is a framecel and there is him in the after.
What I'm saying is that frame might as well=height. The reason he's able to get so big is because he's a giga tallfag and that the tall guy you see that is skinny and would be called a framecel wouldn't be if he wasn't low body fat, and lifted weights. Tallfags will almost always dwarf and look bigger than all manlets after lifting weights and gaining body fat unless they have some disorder like marfans syndrome.
In the US women are superficial about height because verbal trigger that give them social status by association. “i date a 6 feet man” is showing off and social status keeps superficial american whores alive. The security and safety thing is a blue pill. In other countries it’s just being a couple inches taller than her only really enough to look slightly down on her
at least you can still fraud from 6 foot, jfl
having a handsome face while being under 5'7 is like winning a gold medal at the Paralympics
unfortunately everything that originates in USA will sooner or later spread to europe too. I also noticed this pattern here, they just want to brag 24/7 both IRL and on socials about the qualities of their BFs to other foids and people.
