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The character of Joker gets a lot of bad press for being some kind of shooter idol. It's after that James Holmes theater shooter incident in Aurora, state of Colorado 2012. Even though Joker wasn't even the villain in the batman movie of that year.
For me, since age 10, Joker is a complex multifaceted character full of nuances, idiosyncrasies able to manipulate others through humor and doubt. Heath Ledger's interpretation of Joker remains my favorite. Since he retains the hyper-normalized clown "warpaint" and costume in the excellent Dark Knight bank heist intro. Ledger perfectly sets up the Joker's motivations and deadly ability to play with fools identifying as part of the clown's gang.
I don't see any link as to why the media has painted a persecutor mastermind criminal, is now somehow a downtrodden, loveless loner idol for incels. It's a bastardized link between good movie fiction and scaremongering idolization. The finger seemed squarely pointed at Joaquin Rafael Phoenix's 2019 Joker
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The Blu-Ray extras on The Dark Knight and Joker said each Director gave their Joker actor's freedom as method actors for creative input. So the look,character motivations, costume and outcome was less Chris Nolan and Todd Phillips and more Ledger or Phoenix. What you see is each actor being the Joker, if that makes sense.
My personal opinion on the two Jokers, first the common misconceptions while comparing. Ledger's Joker did everything that would, dare I say, be absorbed and paid tribute to by Phoenix. The facepaint, the backcombed hair, the custom tailored suit, color scheme and realistic origin. Joker 2019 had a leaked rumor that Phoenix wasn't even the Joker at all. This was some script for a completely unrelated movie shoehorned into an alternate batman timeline.
This is genius as you'll notice even in The Dark Knight Ledger's "want to know how I got these scars?" is actually a take on how he turned into the Joker. The background story changes every time he asks a victim prior to killing or maiming them under fear and interrogation. Only batman calls bullshit with the brilliant comeback "No. But I know how you got these" before firing wrist spikes into Joker's face. Blood and detail cut due to the film already sailing close to an " R" rating.
Did you know that Todd Phillips wanted to make Joker 2019 an obese fat guy? Which is why you see the stocky clown mask guy, uh spoiler button?
Again though, this was covered in The Dark Knight that Joker could corrupt and manipulate any of us into wearing a clown mask and acting as his one of his cronies. But, spoiler
My favorite goes to Ledger, but Phoenix is a close second. That said who is yours?
The character of Joker gets a lot of bad press for being some kind of shooter idol. It's after that James Holmes theater shooter incident in Aurora, state of Colorado 2012. Even though Joker wasn't even the villain in the batman movie of that year.
For me, since age 10, Joker is a complex multifaceted character full of nuances, idiosyncrasies able to manipulate others through humor and doubt. Heath Ledger's interpretation of Joker remains my favorite. Since he retains the hyper-normalized clown "warpaint" and costume in the excellent Dark Knight bank heist intro. Ledger perfectly sets up the Joker's motivations and deadly ability to play with fools identifying as part of the clown's gang.
I don't see any link as to why the media has painted a persecutor mastermind criminal, is now somehow a downtrodden, loveless loner idol for incels. It's a bastardized link between good movie fiction and scaremongering idolization. The finger seemed squarely pointed at Joaquin Rafael Phoenix's 2019 Joker
.
The Blu-Ray extras on The Dark Knight and Joker said each Director gave their Joker actor's freedom as method actors for creative input. So the look,character motivations, costume and outcome was less Chris Nolan and Todd Phillips and more Ledger or Phoenix. What you see is each actor being the Joker, if that makes sense.
My personal opinion on the two Jokers, first the common misconceptions while comparing. Ledger's Joker did everything that would, dare I say, be absorbed and paid tribute to by Phoenix. The facepaint, the backcombed hair, the custom tailored suit, color scheme and realistic origin. Joker 2019 had a leaked rumor that Phoenix wasn't even the Joker at all. This was some script for a completely unrelated movie shoehorned into an alternate batman timeline.
This is genius as you'll notice even in The Dark Knight Ledger's "want to know how I got these scars?" is actually a take on how he turned into the Joker. The background story changes every time he asks a victim prior to killing or maiming them under fear and interrogation. Only batman calls bullshit with the brilliant comeback "No. But I know how you got these" before firing wrist spikes into Joker's face. Blood and detail cut due to the film already sailing close to an " R" rating.
Did you know that Todd Phillips wanted to make Joker 2019 an obese fat guy? Which is why you see the stocky clown mask guy, uh spoiler button?
be the one who kills Bruce Wayne's parents at the movie theater. Despite batman canon saying the incident took place at an opera theater. That in itself is a nuance of symbolism placing doubt in the audience and asking the question. Who is the real Joker and could anyone be the Joker? It's all open ended.
Ledger's Joker was more of a clown like zeitgeist cult. Even he wasn't in control he "just do's things". Which is why no-one identified him as the ring leader in the bank heist.
My favorite goes to Ledger, but Phoenix is a close second. That said who is yours?
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