[Discussion] Why don't people here question the authenticity of incel attacks?

Personalityinkwell

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Elliot Rodger, Christopher Harper Mercer, Alek Minassian, Scott Beierle.....

Seriously, I've seen articles say that they were hoaxes, such as Elliot Rodger, but people here just assume it's real. How do you know? The media has lied countless of times, you don't think that they could lie about some shooting? I have seen a few people here say Alek Minassian was fake news but besides that I haven't seen people question the authenticity of incel attacks.

It's a big part of why we're hated, because we're "dangerous", yet if these attacks aren't real, we're being targeted for no reason.
 
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Bleachcel

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AM was one of the only real incel attacks imo
 
FrothySolutions

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Only crazy people call shootings hoaxes. Before Sandy Hook it was understood that it's not really feasible to fake that many dead.
 
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Only crazy people call shootings hoaxes. Before Sandy Hook it was understood that it's not really feasible to fake that many dead.
elliot rodger only killed 6. That's not a lot. and to say "crazy" is an assumption
 
Emba

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If the (((media))) says it then it's probably a lie.
 
Angry_runt

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The same reason I don't question the authenticity of Moon landings or 9/11 - it would be too much trouble to concoct and impossible to maintain the fraud. And what would be the benefit? It's been 6 years since ER and no one's dragging incels to reeducation camps. We're small fry, no one is really afraid of us or even too concerned to do anything except yap.
 
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The same reason I don't question the authenticity of Moon landings or 9/11 - it would be too much trouble to concoct and impossible to maintain the fraud. And what would be the benefit? It's been 6 years since ER and no one's dragging incels to reeducation camps. We're small fry, no one is really afraid of us or even too concerned to do anything except yap.
LOL if you think moon landings can't be faked.

You sound like an NPC with that kind of thinking
 
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Do you mean that they could be faking the whole entire scene or the connection to the incel community
 
Personalityinkwell

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Do you mean that they could be faking the whole entire scene or the connection to the incel community
That's up for debate. For ER I think they might have faked the whole thing but for Minassian it might be a false flag where they then connected it to the incel community
 
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LOL if you think moon landings can't be faked.
Sure they could have been faked. And then one of the thousands of people that had to be involved in the fraud would tell everybody in about ten seconds. And the Ruskies were following the Moon landings closely (with much better gear than even the best equipped Moon conspiracy nut ever could have) and they would've blown the whistle instead of congratulating the US.

It's low IQ to doubt the Moon landings, not because of technical reasons or belief that the gov't is honest or stupid shit like that, but because it's impossible to keep secrets so big for so long.
 
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Sure they could have been faked. And then one of the thousands of people that had to be involved in the fraud would tell everybody in about ten seconds. And the Ruskies were following the Moon landings closely (with much better gear than even the best equipped Moon conspiracy nut ever could have) and they would've blown the whistle instead of congratulating the US.

It's low IQ to doubt the Moon landings, not because of technical reasons or belief that the gov't is honest or stupid shit like that, but because it's impossible to keep secrets so big for so long.
LOL the problem is people have called the moon landings fake, the secret is already out!

Yet you still can't believe they lied to you. You're the one who's low IQ
 
ThePlagueDoctor

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LOL if you think moon landings can't be faked.

You sound like an NPC with that kind of thinking
if you think the moon landing was faked you simply have no understanding of physics

Dust kicked up by a rover actually followed a pattern that couldn’t be simulated on earth due to the fact that gravity is lower on the moon.

To deny science is bluepilled behavior, you may as well be saying personality matters more than looks tbh

Source: Hsu and Horányi, “Ballistic motion of dust particles in the Lunar Roving Vehicle dust trails” American Journal of Physics, vol. 80, No. 5.
 
Personalityinkwell

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if you think the moon landing was faked you simply have no understanding of physics

Dust kicked up by a rover actually followed a pattern that couldn’t be simulated on earth due to the fact that gravity is lower on the moon.

To deny science is bluepilled behavior, you may as well be saying personality matters more than looks tbh

Source: Hsu and Horányi, “Ballistic motion of dust particles in the Lunar Roving Vehicle dust trails” American Journal of Physics, vol. 80, No. 5.
How did you see the dust, on a video? You don't think they could have used video editing to fool the public?
 
ThePlagueDoctor

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How did you see the dust, on a video? You don't think they could have used video editing to fool the public?
This quote is somewhat relevant here, but TLDR: They didn’t have the technology to, or if they did, it’s still incredibly unlikely. It’s like having a fucking modern day transistor or a computer processor in the 1600s.

“Some people may contend that when you look at people moving in slow motion, they appear to be in a low gravity environment. Slowing down film requires more frames than usual, so you start with a camera capable of capturing more frames in a second than a normal one — this is called overcranking. When this is played back at the normal frame rate, this footage plays back for longer. If you can't overcrank your camera, but you record at a normal frame rate, you can instead artificially slow down the footage, but you need a way to store the frames and generate new extra frames to slow it down.

At the time of the broadcast, magnetic disk recorders capable of storing slow motion footage could only capture 30 seconds in total, for a playback of 90 seconds of slow motion video. To capture 143 minutes in slow motion, you'd need to record and store 47 minutes of live action, which simply wasn't possible.

'They could have had an advanced storage recorder to create slow motion footage. Everyone knows NASA gets the tech before the public.'

Well, maybe they did have a super secret extra storage recorder — but one almost 3,000 times more advanced? Doubtful.”
 
Personalityinkwell

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This quote is somewhat relevant here, but TLDR: They didn’t have the technology to, or if they did, it’s still incredibly unlikely. It’s like having a fucking modern day transistor or a computer processor in the 1600s.

“Some people may contend that when you look at people moving in slow motion, they appear to be in a low gravity environment. Slowing down film requires more frames than usual, so you start with a camera capable of capturing more frames in a second than a normal one — this is called overcranking. When this is played back at the normal frame rate, this footage plays back for longer. If you can't overcrank your camera, but you record at a normal frame rate, you can instead artificially slow down the footage, but you need a way to store the frames and generate new extra frames to slow it down.

At the time of the broadcast, magnetic disk recorders capable of storing slow motion footage could only capture 30 seconds in total, for a playback of 90 seconds of slow motion video. To capture 143 minutes in slow motion, you'd need to record and store 47 minutes of live action, which simply wasn't possible.

'They could have had an advanced storage recorder to create slow motion footage. Everyone knows NASA gets the tech before the public.'

Well, maybe they did have a super secret extra storage recorder — but one almost 3,000 times more advanced? Doubtful.”
The government having advanced technology years ahead of time is not crazy to believe
 
ThePlagueDoctor

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The government having advanced technology years ahead of time is not crazy to believe
them having this degree of advanced technology is insane though

Do you think the Mayans had GTX 1080s? Do you think Otto von Bismarck had an iPhone?
 
Personalityinkwell

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them having this degree of advanced technology is insane though

Do you think the Mayans had GTX 1080s? Do you think Otto von Bismarck had an iPhone?
They supposedly sent someone to the moon 50 years ago but can no longer do so because they lost their technology.

yeah I think they're full of shit and are hiding things
 
Angry_runt

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LOL the problem is people have called the moon landings fake, the secret is already out!
Which people? Conspiracy nuts, the low IQ detritus of society. Why didn't the Soviets say anything? Or the thousands of engineers that had to be in on the fraud.
 
Personalityinkwell

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Which people? Conspiracy nuts, the low IQ detritus of society. Why didn't the Soviets say anything? Or the thousands of engineers that had to be in on the fraud.
"One rebuttal by Sibrel to this claim is that NASA had compartmentalized all of the work on the Apollo program. This would have allowed for only a small number of people to actually know the truth about faking the Moon landings."

 
Angry_runt

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They supposedly sent someone to the moon 50 years ago but can no longer do so because they lost their technology.
It's not a blueprint you just click and a rocket pops out. It's a manufacturing base that no longer exists. Components for the Apollo program were being made in hundreds of factories by thousands of engineers. You can't just snap your fingers and bring all that back into existence just because you have the spec in some book.
There's nothing that important on the Moon to spend so much resources on landing people there. The US beat the Soviets, tested some tech, the public lost interest in a couple of years and it was over so that's how the technology was "lost".
 
ThePlagueDoctor

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They supposedly sent someone to the moon 50 years ago but can no longer do so because they lost their technology.

yeah I think they're full of shit and are hiding things
We can definitely go to the moon jfl, there’s just no point to rushing it. Speaking from an economic perspective, it’s not profitable. We did it during the Cold War because we had to flex on Russia. That’s really it.

Yeah bro totally fair comparison lmao
Its not that far off if you have any understanding of tech

tbh ngl I need to sleep for a Chem midterm tomorrow good night frens
 
Personalityinkwell

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well the point of this topic was incel attacks and suddenly people are talking about the moon lol. can we shift back to incel attacks being potentially fake?
 
Wagiecel

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People still think Russians unironically hacked the US elections in 2016. There's no saving them
 
Personalityinkwell

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People still think Russians unironically hacked the US elections in 2016. There's no saving them
I don't believe in that shit because the fucking media is focusing on it
 
Angry_runt

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well the point of this topic was incel attacks and suddenly people are talking about the moon lol. can we shift back to incel attacks being potentially fake?
It would have been too much trouble to fake such attacks just to hate ugly virgins a bit more than before.
 
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This girl has some videos about shooting hoaxes.

The same reason I don't question the authenticity of Moon landings or 9/11 - it would be too much trouble to concoct and impossible to maintain the fraud. And what would be the benefit? It's been 6 years since ER and no one's dragging incels to reeducation camps. We're small fry, no one is really afraid of us or even too concerned to do anything except yap.
In the pilot episode, which aired March 4, 2001, rogue members of the U.S. government remotely hijack an airliner departing Boston, planning to crash it into the World Trade Center, and let anti-American terrorist groups take credit, to gain support for a new profitable war following the Cold War. The heroes ultimately override the controls, foiling the plot. The episode aired six months prior to the September 11 attacks.


We can definitely go to the moon jfl, there’s just no point to rushing it. Speaking from an economic perspective, it’s not profitable. We did it during the Cold War because we had to flex on Russia. That’s really it.


Its not that far off if you have any understanding of tech

tbh ngl I need to sleep for a Chem midterm tomorrow good night frens

Skip to 28:45 if you just want to hear what it says for each American president.
 
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Personalityinkwell

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This girl has some videos about shooting hoaxes.







 
Transcended Trucel

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Cope. Why would they fake this shit. They can do far more effective and worse shit
 
Angry_runt

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In the pilot episode, which aired March 4, 2001, rogue members of the U.S. government remotely hijack an airliner departing Boston, planning to crash it into the World Trade Center, and let anti-American terrorist groups take credit, to gain support for a new profitable war following the Cold War. The heroes ultimately override the controls, foiling the plot. The episode aired six months prior to the September 11 attacks.
Hijacking planes to fly them into buildings isn't such an original plan.

Besides, if the gov't wanted such an attack, they wouldn't have to resort to conspiracy-nut-type of technical trickery. They could have just told (possibly ex-CIA operative) Osama Bin Laden to find a bunch of guys willing to go through with it and then just fail to catch them.

As for the Moon landing, Russians believed it, the entirety of NASA believed it as well as the worldwide scientific community. Since then several countries (some not friendly to the US) have sent missions to the Moon and measured everything on the way and returned samples, so if there was any doubt by intelligent people, a conspiracy would have been unraveled by now. Instead, it's just conspiracy nuts who believe it, and (as OP has shown) they tend to believe in conspiracies in general so their belief is meaningless.
 
Personalityinkwell

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Hijacking planes to fly them into buildings isn't such an original plan.

Besides, if the gov't wanted such an attack, they wouldn't have to resort to conspiracy-nut-type of technical trickery. They could have just told (possibly ex-CIA operative) Osama Bin Laden to find a bunch of guys willing to go through with it and then just fail to catch them.

As for the Moon landing, Russians believed it, the entirety of NASA believed it as well as the worldwide scientific community. Since then several countries (some not friendly to the US) have sent missions to the Moon and measured everything on the way and returned samples, so if there was any doubt by intelligent people, a conspiracy would have been unraveled by now. Instead, it's just conspiracy nuts who believe it, and (as OP has shown) they tend to believe in conspiracies in general so their belief is meaningless.
ad hominem
 
Total Imbecile

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Its pointless, even if you legit disprove them people dont care, ffs most people still believe in the holohoax
 
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They could have just told (possibly ex-CIA operative) Osama Bin Laden to find a bunch of guys willing to go through with it and then just fail to catch them.
Or they knew about the plan and did nothing
 
solblue

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People denied AM for like a month. Maybe it was to deflect blame, but the conspiracies were really popular. We should be more skeptical about attacks now that the FBI is onto us. They will purposefully radicalize and aid mentally unstable men to further their agenda
 
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Normies will think we are pieces of shit regardless, remember, they hate us because of who we are, not what we do and think.
 
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The problem with those kind of conspiracies is that you can never know the truth. It may be fun to think they are hoaxes but after a while it gets boring because there's no way to prove they are one way or another.

That said, i would REALLY like to know what the Vegas shooting was about. I have a feeling they know but they won't tell us. Funny how the worst shooting in the history of the US just disappears without anybody even remembering it happened.
 
Personalityinkwell

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The problem with those kind of conspiracies is that you can never know the truth. It may be fun to think they are hoaxes but after a while it gets boring because there's no way to prove they are one way or another.

That said, i would REALLY like to know what the Vegas shooting was about. I have a feeling they know but they won't tell us. Funny how the worst shooting in the history of the US just disappears without anybody even remembering it happened.
so we just assume the media is right? sounds like an npc trait to me
 
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(((Sandy Hoax))) and Alek Minasian were fishy
 
Personalityinkwell

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Only crazy people call shootings hoaxes. Before Sandy Hook it was understood that it's not really feasible to fake that many dead.
things changed with Sandy Hook?
 
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Only crazy people call shootings hoaxes. Before Sandy Hook it was understood that it's not really feasible to fake that many dead.
Only crazy people believe the government and media always tell the truth . Its easy to fake thousands of death. Its call hollywood magic. I also hear the line crazy people can do anything. Wrong he /she can only do what genetic potential and rigorous training allow . No way a 100lbs man with 9" arms on years of psychotropic medication is able to carry 80lbs worth of guns and ammos and have the kill rate comparable to the best special forces soldier. Even for hollywood. Rambo at least have an impressive physique.
Or they knew about the plan and did nothing
They did something though. Rigged the building with explosives and another smaller building next to wtts . Of course all the rubbles was quickly swept away and destroyed to hide all evidence.
 
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The "It was a false flag" stuff only started with Sandy Hook. Shootings and suicide attacks before that were understood to be real.

Sandy Hook was in December 2012, Aurora Colorado Movie Massacre Psy Op where James Holmes took the fall was in July 2012.
 
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The "It was a false flag" stuff only started with Sandy Hook. Shootings and suicide attacks before that were understood to be real.
2011 Arizona shooting

There would probably be videos like this on youtube at the time but most of it gets removed now.
 
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