[LifeFuel] Why Islam?

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I notice a lot of western people have a negative image of Islam. Allow me to demonstrate how Islam is actually the only hope of the West with some simple, quick (I'll try to be succint) points:

Fact 1: As I explained here, completely removing women's rights and freedoms is the only way to satisfactorily solve inceldom.

Fact 2: The only viable way to do it within a reasonably fast time frame is Islam reaching majority and imposing Sharia Law in western countries.

Let's be realistic: white nationalism taking over all Europe and North America (possibly southern South America and South Africa as well) has 0 chances of happening anytime soon in 2018. A fourth Reich has 0 chances of happening after Germany's loss in WWII. A rollback to XIX century West has 0 chances of happening as well.

Meanwhile, Islam is spreading rapidly throughout various western countries, especially in Europe, and would spread even faster if white natives started to convert en masse. Islam has the blessing of the status quo and even from liberals/cucks while anything right wing or traditionalist in a western manner is vehemently opposed by it, including by the elites of the world (banksters, etc).

Fact 3: To nationalists who may associate Islam with "sandniggers": Islam has no race. Many people immediately associate Islam to Arabs, but the fact is, even though Islam originated in nowadays Arabia, only a minority of Muslims are Arabs nowadays. The biggest Islamic country in the world is Asian, we have plenty of Islamic blacks, we even already have Islamic whites. People of any race can convert.

Fact 4: Contrary to ignorant @justincelthings claims, Islam does enforce women's submission to men, marriage at young age, fidelity to one man, maternal duties, etc. He linked this, furthering the idea that "The Quran does not specify specific gender roles for women".

Little does he known that Muslims are not only supposed to follow Quran text, but also the Sunnahs, which are (from Wikipedia):

"...the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community, based on the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings, silent permissions (or disapprovals) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, as well as various reports about Muhammad's companions."

Muhammad (may the peace be with him) married a girl who was between the ages of 6 and 13, and all Muslims are, through the aforementioned Sunnahs, encourage to follow his every step. How do IT and @justincelthings cucks respond to it?

An analogy to conclude: in a fight, it's very often better to go along with your opponent's attack and use his own momentum against him than to try to defend/resist the attack. This is the principle of Judo for example.

The elites want to use Islam to destabilize Western countries and increase their power, and they expect us (western men with healthy doses of testosterone who don't want to accept having their people wiped out) to act like "dumb racists", trying to protest it, become radicalized towards alt right or even national socialist views, etc. It pains me to say so but we are playing in their hands by doing so.

We must turn the tables on them by embracing Islam and purging degeneracy, feminism, LGBT shit, AoC cuckoldry (women are supposed to marry young and reproduce as soon as they're bodily matured for it, not "go study and have a career" while fucking tons of Chads and just then settling with a betabuxx to have low-quality children genetically), banksters (Islam is against Jewish supremacy and usury abuse), etc.

And especially purging the plight that is women having freedoms, authority, sexual emancipation and a say on who they marry with. THIS IDIOCY is the main reason of our inceldom and of our societies' downfall.

Thank you very much for your attention, Salaam Aleikum!
 
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It's always somehow the case in this universe that the most effective solution to problems is the most immoral. Here, it is indeed true that embracing a foreign religion out of pure self-interest and Machiavellianism would be far more effective than trying to restore a former political and religious order in the West.

WNcels are always extremely triggered by the suggestion to embrace Islam because they know it would achieve most of their actual goals in a realistic fashion, and they can't accept that their choice for this century is either "betraying your ancestors" for immediate objective results, or remaining true to your civilization and sense of honesty, but accepting that everything will continue to crumble around you.
 
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Ok OP try living as a muslim for a month following the tenets of their religion to a T and get back to us afterwards stop fantasizing it's not a serious fix to most incels who want to experience casual sex i've been to fairly strict muslim countries and there are plenty of 40 year old virgins around it's still the goodlooking ones who get married
 
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WNcels are always extremely triggered by the suggestion to embrace Islam because they know it would achieve most of their actual goals in a realistic fashion, and they can't accept that their choice for this century is either "betraying your ancestors" for immediate objective results, or remaining true to your civilization and sense of honesty, but accepting that everything will continue to crumble around you.
Europe already gave up its original Paganism to Christianity more than a thousand years ago. There are some Pagans who want to restore Paganism still, like Varg Vikernes, but it falls under what I talked about in my "Fact 2" part: it's simply not gonna happen.

Our ancestors would be very happy if we manage to save our blood. To save our blood we need to get a grip of our wayward, corrupted women, and the way to do that is Islam.

If you use a Japanese martial art to save your white woman from being raped by a nonwhite man, is it betraying your ancestors? Quite the opposite tbh.
 
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It seems like embracing Islam would solve some problems and create others. Another thing is, I doubt I could seriously convince myself to convert. It's one thing to change gradually over time, it's another to accept an ideology which mostly divorced from my own principles. If the majority of men in the west feel the same way, for one reason or another, than it really isn't a solution any more than attempting to reignite western traditionalism is a viable solution.
 
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Ok OP try living as a muslim for a month following the tenets of their religion to a T and get back to us afterwards stop fantasizing it's not a serious fix to most incels who want to experience casual sex i've been to fairly strict muslim countries and there are plenty of 40 year old virgins around it's still the goodlooking ones who get married
The West is trying to pressure Muslim countries into western degeneracy, just like they do with Japan.

But even if what you say is true, it would still be preferable than what we have now. With what we have now, we (truecels) remain incels to the tomb, our society crumbles, our race (whites in my case and most users' case) is lost forever, our women don't even feel happy or fulfilled in the long run. Everyone loses.
 
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Our ancestors would be very happy if we manage to save our blood. To save our blood we need to get a grip of our wayward, corrupted women, and the way to do that is Islam.

If you use a Japanese martial art to save your white woman from being raped by a nonwhite man, is it betraying your ancestors? Quite the opposite tbh.
I can see two objections to this:

1/ Our blood is going to get "corrupted" anyway, sooner or later. Islam is not a racist doctrine, so mixed marriages will happen frequently.

2/ Religion is the same as martial arts only for an atheistic libertine. Religion is a very serious subject. Many of your ancestors died to defend a particular version of Christianity over another during the European religious wars, or to prevent Muslims from conquering us. It's a subject that revolves around eternal life and eternal damnation. Chances are, because you reason like an atheist, you will never be a Muslim but a Muslim LARPer. If most white converts are like you, women will see through their game easily. Without actual fear of God, there can be no true religion.
 
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Fuck off I just read the first line. Islam is destroying Europe so everyone involved with it can die 10 minutes from now.
 
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Fuck off I just read the first line. Islam is destroying Europe so everyone involved with it can die 10 minutes from now.
You are low-IQ or you spent too much time on "WN" low-brow websites. Islam isn't destroying anything that whites have not already destroyed by themselves.
 
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I don't want to solve the inceldom.
What do I have out of it? Now I can see a 14 year old hold hands with her 30 year old husband in a headscarve?
I want to do good myself and some users I hope ascend here because I like them but I really couldn't care about the rest.
If you ascend having Islam has no more benefits but a lot of disadvantages.
 
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Islam is not a solution to this.
 
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You are low-IQ or you spent too much time on "WN" low-brow websites. Islam isn't destroying anything that whites have not already destroyed by themselves.
Right. Then I hope you get bombed next or run over by a truck of peace (jk but still).
 
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You will have to pay a lot of monye for the marriage tho.
 
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Fuck off I just read the first line. Islam is destroying Europe so everyone involved with it can die 10 minutes from now.
You're somewhat right. Cultural marxism is the real problem. If Europe was controlled by nationalists instead of jews then islam wouldn't be an issue.
You are low-IQ or you spent too much time on "WN" low-brow websites. Islam isn't destroying anything that whites have not already destroyed by themselves.
Of course.
 
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I can see two objections to this:

1/ Our blood is going to get "corrupted" anyway, sooner or later. Islam is not a racist doctrine, so mixed marriages will happen frequently
Sorry, I had to go out. But I took the opportunity to muse about this.

Well, Islam would be a solution to the women problem (and inceldom consequentially) and not to the race problem. The OP was originally about it, but we invariably also stumbled on that problem.

I think racemixing and multiculturalism are (although surely aggravated by cultural marxism) caused by modern technology primarily. Without modern technology, people don't have the means to travel such long distances so fast and in hordes; without modern technology, blacks would have a hard time in the high latitudes of Europe (lack of vitamin D, skin and water retention problems), as well as whites would have a hard time in the low latitudes of Africa and parts of Asia and America (I myself suffer somewhat with it, and my city's latitude is not even that low).

Modern technology takes its toll on gender relations as well, we know that well. Tinder, social media, etc.

Allowance of racemixing is one of the things I disagree on Islam tenets tbh. Others are cousin marriages (not good for the genetics, just like racemixing) and polygamy (for the sole reason of it implying in some of the male population lacking women to marry to).

I know you're an enthusiast of technology, robotics, etc. One good thing to do regarding polygamy is mass breeding white women in number that allow men to be polygamous without prejudicing other men.

But I have to say that even if it's true that Islam allows racemixing, it would be much easier to support a version of it that doesn't (perhaps adapting it like NS Germany adapted Christianity into the "Positive Christianity" variation) than to try to prevent racemixing by furthering WN/NS views, that have absolutely no leeway in nowadays western societies.

2/ Religion is the same as martial arts only for an atheistic libertine. Religion is a very serious subject.
I agree with you. Sometimes I get carried away with analogies, I like to make them a lot.

Many of your ancestors died to defend a particular version of Christianity over another during the European religious wars, or to prevent Muslims from conquering us.
It's true, but sadly, in the long run, Europeans failed. Look at Europe now. Islam doesn't have to "invade", whites are so decadent they just invite them in. European culture is very weak and offers no relevant resistance.

It's a subject that revolves around eternal life and eternal damnation. Chances are, because you reason like an atheist, you will never be a Muslim but a Muslim LARPer.
What can I do but agree. I was raised pretty much an atheist. No one on my family is seriously religious and I was never exposed/encouraged into any religion by any member of my family.

I studied a lot about religions (Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Gnosticism and now Islamism) but it was all from my own interest, and not for a religious fear of hell or something (through I do fear and feel uncertain about afterlife).

Perhaps I'll never be able to truly become a religious due to my upbringing, who knows.

If most white converts are like you, women will see through their game easily. Without actual fear of God, there can be no true religion.
Here I disagree. Women won't "see through" any game because if they're stripped of their rights and liberties and bound to face serious legal and even physical consequences for their transgressions, the problem is already solved. They don't have to fear hell. They'll adapt once men force them too.

That's why I hate cucks and manginas so much, they are the real backers of women waywardness.
You are low-IQ or you spent too much time on "WN" low-brow websites. Islam isn't destroying anything that whites have not already destroyed by themselves.
Agreed somewhat. I have myself spent considerable time on WN stuff but the truth is, blaming Muslims for what's happening in Europe is very much like blaming Chad for inceldom. You're not tackling the root of the problem.
 
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High IQ Post , jazzakallah brother
 
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I notice a lot of western people have a negative image of Islam. Allow me to demonstrate how Islam is actually the only hope of the West with some simple, quick (I'll try to be succint) points:

Fact 1: As I explained here, completely removing women's rights and freedoms is the only way to satisfactorily solve inceldom.

Fact 2: The only viable way to do it within a reasonably fast time frame is Islam reaching majority and imposing Sharia Law in western countries.

Let's be realistic: white nationalism taking over all Europe and North America (possibly southern South America and South Africa as well) has 0 chances of happening anytime soon in 2018. A fourth Reich has 0 chances of happening after Germany's loss in WWII. A rollback to XIX century West has 0 chances of happening as well.

Meanwhile, Islam is spreading rapidly throughout various western countries, especially in Europe, and would spread even faster if white natives started to convert en masse. Islam has the blessing of the status quo and even from liberals/cucks while anything right wing or traditionalist in a western manner is vehemently opposed by it, including by the elites of the world (banksters, etc).

Fact 3: To nationalists who may associate Islam with "sandniggers": Islam has no race. Many people immediately associate Islam to Arabs, but the fact is, even though Islam originated in nowadays Arabia, only a minority of Muslims are Arabs nowadays. The biggest Islamic country in the world is Asian, we have plenty of Islamic blacks, we even already have Islamic whites. People of any race can convert.

Fact 4: Contrary to ignorant @justincelthings claims, Islam does enforce women's submission to men, marriage at young age, fidelity to one man, maternal duties, etc. He linked this, furthering the idea that "The Quran does not specify specific gender roles for women".

Little does he known that Muslims are not only supposed to follow Quran text, but also the Sunnahs, which are (from Wikipedia):

"...the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community, based on the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings, silent permissions (or disapprovals) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, as well as various reports about Muhammad's companions."

Muhammad (may the peace be with him) married a girl who was between the ages of 6 and 13, and all Muslims are, through the aforementioned Sunnahs, encourage to follow his every step. How do IT and @justincelthings cucks respond to it?

An analogy to conclude: in a fight, it's very often better to go along with your opponent's attack and use his own momentum against him than to try to defend/resist the attack. This is the principle of Judo for example.

The elites want to use Islam to destabilize Western countries and increase their power, and they expect us (western men with healthy doses of testosterone who don't want to accept having their people wiped out) to act like "dumb racists", trying to protest it, become radicalized towards alt right or even national socialist views, etc. It pains me to say so but we are playing in their hands by doing so.

We must turn the tables on them by embracing Islam and purging degeneracy, feminism, LGBT shit, AoC cuckoldry (women are supposed to marry young and reproduce as soon as they're bodily matured for it, not "go study and have a career" while fucking tons of Chads and just then settling with a betabuxx to have low-quality children genetically), banksters (Islam is against Jewish supremacy and usury abuse), etc.

And especially purging the plight that is women having freedoms, authority, sexual emancipation and a say on who they marry with. THIS IDIOCY is the main reason of our inceldom and of our societies' downfall.

Thank you very much for your attention, Salaam Aleikum!
Accurate :feelsokman:
So, you want the west to become traditionalist again, and the only way you think this can happen is through converting the west to islam. First problem... what islam? A moderate islam? Radical one? The first one doesnt even solve the problem, so it must be some kind of radical islam i guess. Do you really think that a religion that is only practiced in a few isolated and backward coutries can really spread to western white rich countries? I dont think so. It would be basically LARPing.
Also, radical muslims usually jail and kill atheists, former atheists and "fake" muslims, so people like you and me, with our mindset, would probably die very soon after the stablishment of the sharia law in the west tbh.
Anyway, supposing that we were not going to be end up jailed, and even if i prefer to live in the nihilist west, i think that choosing between the decadent west and the radical umma is like choosing between two turds tbh, even from the incel perspective. Critics of both political and social systems are basically right IMO.
Btw, are you a muslim? Didnt know. Im an atheist, if you didnt guessed it.

It's always somehow the case in this universe that the most effective solution to problems is the most immoral. Here, it is indeed true that embracing a foreign religion out of pure self-interest and Machiavellianism would be far more effective than trying to restore a former political and religious order in the West.
True. "political and religious order". Order = traditionalism basically.

If you use a Japanese martial art to save your white woman from being raped by a nonwhite man, is it betraying your ancestors? Quite the opposite tbh.
Good answer

2/ Religion is the same as martial arts only for an atheistic libertine. Religion is a very serious subject. Many of your ancestors died to defend a particular version of Christianity over another during the European religious wars, or to prevent Muslims from conquering us. It's a subject that revolves around eternal life and eternal damnation. Chances are, because you reason like an atheist, you will never be a Muslim but a Muslim LARPer. If most white converts are like you, women will see through their game easily. Without actual fear of God, there can be no true religion.
Exactly. This only could work if converting to any branch of radical islam. Moderates dont fear god, and, judging by what i read from fellow islamcels, moderate muslim foids are whores, exactly as western white foids.
 
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Not religious and don't think i could ever sincerely believe in any religion, but I've always said of any religion Islam would probably be best for all incels and men in general. WN's are fucking retarded. They are mere reactionaries to a society that has excluded them, and even if they somehow magically got their pipedream of a "white ethnostate" it still wouldn't solve the fact that most if them would remain incel and our society would still be garbage culturally.

Ignoring that "the white race" (or any race) doesn't actually exist and is a highly arbitrarily defined concept, these same people remain completely unaware of the fact (or simply outright deny it) that a mere 10,000 or so years ago, features that that we associate with "whiteness" didn't even exist; they began as a mutation in response to the climate of northern Europe.

Thus if WN's were really concerned about "preserving" this they would also call for leaving the USA or Australia as these climates would no doubt erase them over thousands of years regardless of any so-called "race-mixing." But they also don't believe in science beyond "muh IQ tests" (while ignoring the Flynn effect of course) and their base feelings are really just based on butthurt from being rejected a bunch and seeing Tyrone easily score hot blonde pussy so go figure.

All in all though good post.
 
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I have a certain respect for Islam and wouldn't mind living in a country like Saudi Arabia.
 
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An ex-mulsim atheist (half-hafeez) here. Islam is bs. Islam is only good for keeping whores in check (btw, all religions are basically good at keep them in check). It's a counter-progressive, totalitarian and chad worshipping cult.
 
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I notice a lot of western people have a negative image of Islam. Allow me to demonstrate how Islam is actually the only hope of the West with some simple, quick (I'll try to be succint) points:

Fact 1: As I explained here, completely removing women's rights and freedoms is the only way to satisfactorily solve inceldom.

Fact 2: The only viable way to do it within a reasonably fast time frame is Islam reaching majority and imposing Sharia Law in western countries.

Let's be realistic: white nationalism taking over all Europe and North America (possibly southern South America and South Africa as well) has 0 chances of happening anytime soon in 2018. A fourth Reich has 0 chances of happening after Germany's loss in WWII. A rollback to XIX century West has 0 chances of happening as well.

Meanwhile, Islam is spreading rapidly throughout various western countries, especially in Europe, and would spread even faster if white natives started to convert en masse. Islam has the blessing of the status quo and even from liberals/cucks while anything right wing or traditionalist in a western manner is vehemently opposed by it, including by the elites of the world (banksters, etc).

Fact 3: To nationalists who may associate Islam with "sandniggers": Islam has no race. Many people immediately associate Islam to Arabs, but the fact is, even though Islam originated in nowadays Arabia, only a minority of Muslims are Arabs nowadays. The biggest Islamic country in the world is Asian, we have plenty of Islamic blacks, we even already have Islamic whites. People of any race can convert.

Fact 4: Contrary to ignorant @justincelthings claims, Islam does enforce women's submission to men, marriage at young age, fidelity to one man, maternal duties, etc. He linked this, furthering the idea that "The Quran does not specify specific gender roles for women".

Little does he known that Muslims are not only supposed to follow Quran text, but also the Sunnahs, which are (from Wikipedia):

"...the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community, based on the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings, silent permissions (or disapprovals) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, as well as various reports about Muhammad's companions."

Muhammad (may the peace be with him) married a girl who was between the ages of 6 and 13, and all Muslims are, through the aforementioned Sunnahs, encourage to follow his every step. How do IT and @justincelthings cucks respond to it?

An analogy to conclude: in a fight, it's very often better to go along with your opponent's attack and use his own momentum against him than to try to defend/resist the attack. This is the principle of Judo for example.

The elites want to use Islam to destabilize Western countries and increase their power, and they expect us (western men with healthy doses of testosterone who don't want to accept having their people wiped out) to act like "dumb racists", trying to protest it, become radicalized towards alt right or even national socialist views, etc. It pains me to say so but we are playing in their hands by doing so.

We must turn the tables on them by embracing Islam and purging degeneracy, feminism, LGBT shit, AoC cuckoldry (women are supposed to marry young and reproduce as soon as they're bodily matured for it, not "go study and have a career" while fucking tons of Chads and just then settling with a betabuxx to have low-quality children genetically), banksters (Islam is against Jewish supremacy and usury abuse), etc.

And especially purging the plight that is women having freedoms, authority, sexual emancipation and a say on who they marry with. THIS IDIOCY is the main reason of our inceldom and of our societies' downfall.

Thank you very much for your attention, Salaam Aleikum!
Found your post on incel tears lol


Seeing a lot of mines too posted by BrazilianSomething

Islam is truly the only way to save the west, ironically letting muslims get into the country may very well be what helps end the cuckery that is taking place
 
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Islam is bs
But still, billions of Muslims say otherwise. In many western countries, people are converting to Islam by the lot.
In the Netherlands, even two people from an anti-Islam party converted after learning about Islam.

There is no such thing as "moderate" or "radical" Islam. If you have this mindset, you have been brainwashed by your jewish masters.
There is NO innovation in Islam. We are submissive to our religion, we do just what the Allah and the Quran orders us to do.
Islam is Islam. Also, Iranians (Persians) are shiites. Shiites are not Muslims, although they themselves say they are.
Being a Muslim means doing things a Muslim does, and refrain from that what was made haraam for us.

The argument that Islam is non-progressive is bullshit. Islam has brought many improvements and has seen many talented scientist.
Back in the days they were masters of trade, astrology, construction and more.

It's important to understand that Islam is a direct threat to the current jewish world order. That's why the crackdown and manipulation continues.
The jews will make sure we are perpetually at war with each other, so they can reap the benefits.

Also, Muslims have no beef with Christians. They have beef with those who fight Islam. Treaties were common and people can even live in Muslim lands as a non-Muslim by paying zakat.

Islam is truly the only way to save the west, ironically letting muslims get into the country may very well be what helps end the cuckery that is taking place
This is what I've been saying for some time.
 
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It does seem to increasingly be the only viable option. Christianity has become so cucked and diluted, it stands for nothing and has no power here, while Islam is respected and more importantly - feared.
 
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Nice preaching, but religion isn't something one converts to because some of its teachings coincide with one's own views. To actually become a Muslim, you need to genuinely believe that Allah exists and Muhammad is his prophet. You'll have to pray 5 times a day, fast in Ramadan, pay zakah, etc. Otherwise, you're just larping, like a tranny deluding herself that she's a woman.
 
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Islam is for destroying degenerate West, but it is no good for path of enlightenment - creation of genetically engineered loli catgirls of deomestic ownership
 
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Nice preaching, but religion isn't something one converts to because some of its teachings coincide with one's own views. To actually become a Muslim, you need to genuinely believe that Allah exists and Muhammad is his prophet. You'll have to pray 5 times a day, fast in Ramadan, pay zakah, etc. Otherwise, you're just larping, like a tranny deluding herself that she's a woman.
True, but also, you can only come to Islam through knowledge. It's a learning process, it starts and continues your whole life.
 
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I've noticed IT are completely mute & dumb founded regarding this suggestion.
 
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Yeah and if you don't follow the religion you get tortured as well. No thanks.
 
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To those who have too much brain i will suggest to acquaint with Kierkegaard's concept of The Kinght of Faith.
God lives in faith not in facts.
 
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لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱلله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱلله
 
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I notice a lot of western people have a negative image of Islam. Allow me to demonstrate how Islam is actually the only hope of the West with some simple, quick (I'll try to be succint) points:

Fact 1: As I explained here, completely removing women's rights and freedoms is the only way to satisfactorily solve inceldom.

Fact 2: The only viable way to do it within a reasonably fast time frame is Islam reaching majority and imposing Sharia Law in western countries.

Let's be realistic: white nationalism taking over all Europe and North America (possibly southern South America and South Africa as well) has 0 chances of happening anytime soon in 2018. A fourth Reich has 0 chances of happening after Germany's loss in WWII. A rollback to XIX century West has 0 chances of happening as well.

Meanwhile, Islam is spreading rapidly throughout various western countries, especially in Europe, and would spread even faster if white natives started to convert en masse. Islam has the blessing of the status quo and even from liberals/cucks while anything right wing or traditionalist in a western manner is vehemently opposed by it, including by the elites of the world (banksters, etc).

Fact 3: To nationalists who may associate Islam with "sandniggers": Islam has no race. Many people immediately associate Islam to Arabs, but the fact is, even though Islam originated in nowadays Arabia, only a minority of Muslims are Arabs nowadays. The biggest Islamic country in the world is Asian, we have plenty of Islamic blacks, we even already have Islamic whites. People of any race can convert.

Fact 4: Contrary to ignorant @justincelthings claims, Islam does enforce women's submission to men, marriage at young age, fidelity to one man, maternal duties, etc. He linked this, furthering the idea that "The Quran does not specify specific gender roles for women".

Little does he known that Muslims are not only supposed to follow Quran text, but also the Sunnahs, which are (from Wikipedia):

"...the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community, based on the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings, silent permissions (or disapprovals) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, as well as various reports about Muhammad's companions."

Muhammad (may the peace be with him) married a girl who was between the ages of 6 and 13, and all Muslims are, through the aforementioned Sunnahs, encourage to follow his every step. How do IT and @justincelthings cucks respond to it?

An analogy to conclude: in a fight, it's very often better to go along with your opponent's attack and use his own momentum against him than to try to defend/resist the attack. This is the principle of Judo for example.

The elites want to use Islam to destabilize Western countries and increase their power, and they expect us (western men with healthy doses of testosterone who don't want to accept having their people wiped out) to act like "dumb racists", trying to protest it, become radicalized towards alt right or even national socialist views, etc. It pains me to say so but we are playing in their hands by doing so.

We must turn the tables on them by embracing Islam and purging degeneracy, feminism, LGBT shit, AoC cuckoldry (women are supposed to marry young and reproduce as soon as they're bodily matured for it, not "go study and have a career" while fucking tons of Chads and just then settling with a betabuxx to have low-quality children genetically), banksters (Islam is against Jewish supremacy and usury abuse), etc.

And especially purging the plight that is women having freedoms, authority, sexual emancipation and a say on who they marry with. THIS IDIOCY is the main reason of our inceldom and of our societies' downfall.

Thank you very much for your attention, Salaam Aleikum!
I support 9/11 because Americunts are the worst people on earth, does that make me a muslim? I’ve kinda flirted with islam briefly back in 2015 when I got into anti-psychiatry stuff. Basically, Islam is a kind religion to those with mental illness, and doesn’t wish them to be locked in straitjackets. I’ve also got a huge boner for Hamas because their DIY weapons are enough to blow me out the water (particularly their “Ghost” rifles and sugar rocket powered explosive warheads with a crude nail + bullet detonation system). And because I support the Second (and forthcoming Third) Intifada’s against Israel along with taking women captive in harems to lose my virginity. Islam sounds pretty badass to me.
 
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Persian virgin costs 30k in gold.

Yeah I saw this video the other day, the guy in love had to pay like $30k to the other family and she was okay looking. But I guess that's less than alimony and child support you'd pay in the West over the course of your life. And she cannot cheat on or divorce you supposedly.
I really don't have any arguments against Islam besides it being a Semetic religion but so is Christianity. Idk if it is worth it to LARP as a Muslim in order to get a loyal wife, I tried getting back into Christianity but it's just a pathetic joke at this point, unabashedly cucked. Most Muslims seem to actually successfully follow their religion while most Christians live hedonistic lives with the weak libertarian spirit.

I don't think I've ever heard of a Mexican muslim though.
 
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as well as whites would have a hard time in the low latitudes of Africa and parts of Asia and America (I myself suffer somewhat with it, and my city's latitude is not even that low).
From what kind of problems do you suffer? You are white and your skin can't handle the tropical sun? Could you survive the climate at your location without modern technology (air conditioning)? Im just curious.
 
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As someone who was raised into a Muslim family and knows about the both good and bad parts of the faith, I do not consider Islam a long-term solution for the west or any modern society that isn't already Islamic. I understand that people here sympathise with Islam due to its rules surrounding female behaviour and marriage but Islam is (obviously) way more than that.

It places massive restrictions on its followers (which won't be easy to deal with if you've been non-religious for most of your life and don't genuinely believe that Islam is the "true" religion) and contains of course the disgusting anti-male practice known as circumcicison. But the most important argument against it is that once you become Islamic, there's no going back. You will most likely, like all people that converted to Islam, permanently lose all of your ties to your native culture and relgions. So, if you believe that Islam will save the west, you'll have to realise that once westerners convert to it en masse, there will be no west. People might even cease to speak European languages like what happened in massive parts of North-Africa where the native Berber language has died out for the most part.
Also, you have probably noticed this by the many pro-Islam faggots on this site but Muslims are some of the most obnoxious people when it comes to forcing their principles down other people's throats. At least in the modern west you still have the chance to reject their advances to convert but once you live in an Islamic society, you will have no choice but to silently accept their zealous behaviour or else risk being beaten by an angry mob.
 
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Allowance of racemixing is one of the things I disagree on Islam tenets tbh. Others are cousin marriages (not good for the genetics, just like racemixing) and polygamy (for the sole reason of it implying in some of the male population lacking women to marry to).
Every nation that adopted Islam evolved their own version of it according to as their tradition. so you see different practices in different parts of the islamic world. As the allowance of race-mixing, it is not true everywhere. As for our tribe overall, we only allow marrying certain people so it is not like that a foreigner can come and marry a person here. but it is different if the foreigner is female though, then you're allowed to marry because men are believed to be the leader of the family
 
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I want racially conscious sharia. That is the best system to get rid of the degeneracy in the west.
 
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WNcels are always extremely triggered by the suggestion to embrace Islam because they know it would achieve most of their actual goals in a realistic fashion, and they can't accept that their choice for this century is either "betraying your ancestors" for immediate objective results, or remaining true to your civilization and sense of honesty, but accepting that everything will continue to crumble around you.
Damn this is spot on, what did this guy get banned for


Allowance of racemixing is one of the things I disagree on Islam tenets tbh. Others are cousin marriages (not good for the genetics, just like racemixing) and polygamy (for the sole reason of it implying in some of the male population lacking women to marry to).
JFL dude come on now, you want a racial separatist islam, you do that and you'll just have more islamic factions warring against eachother rather than focusing on social order
 
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As for our tribe overall, we only allow marrying certain people so it is not like that a foreigner can come and marry a person here
But how do you justify that based on Islamic teachings? The quran states that all Muslims are equal so aren't you then breaking that rule through this practice?
That's one thing that annoys me about Muslims, they all LARP as "muh true believers unlike those other fake Muslims" but they all have their own pre-Islamic customs that go against the Islamic teachings. Either follow the religion or don't, there's no middle ground.
 
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JFL your version of Islam will never come to past and even if it did, it would not last. You have one weird combination of beliefs, you want a "White Nationalist Islamic State" :feelskek: (how did you even come up with this)

"No shit skins allowed, we want to keep our white women............ peace be upon you brother, may Allah be with you" :feelskek:
 
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JFL your version of Islam will never come to past and even if it did, it would not last. You have one weird combination of beliefs, you want a "White Nationalist Islamic State" :feelskek: (how did you even come up with this)

"No shit skins allowed, we want to keep our white women............ peace be upon you brother, may Allah be with you" :feelskek:
wait,what ? where i mentioned about it ? im not even white. JFL. you reached a new level of low iq
 
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low iq. islam gay
 
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wait,what ? where i mentioned about it ? im not even white. JFL
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Within this context, it seemed like you were a white nationalist, I've argued with a them a lot on this site, and what you said here, even what @Mainländer said, makes you guys sound like white nationalists, that's the first thing anyone would assume upon reading it if they didn't know your races, I already knew mainlander wasn't white but I knew nothing about you

Its very ironic for ethnics to be speaking like this
 
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Within this context, it seemed like you were a white nationalist, I've argued with a them a lot on this site, and what you said here, even what @Mainländer said, makes you guys sound like white nationalist, that's the first thing anyone would assume upon reading it if they didn't know your races, I already knew mainlander wasn't white but I knew nothing about you

Its very ironic for ethnics to be speaking like this
I mentioned being muslim and even about "tribe" I don't think tribe thing does exist anywhere in white world anymore,but whatever. next time dont say nonsense without knowing me
 
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Within this context, it seemed like you were a white nationalist, I've argued with a them a lot on this site, and what you said here, even what @Mainländer said, makes you guys sound like white nationalist, that's the first thing anyone would assume upon reading it if they didn't know your races, I already knew mainlander wasn't white but I knew nothing about you

Its very ironic for ethnics to be speaking like this
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I notice a lot of western people have a negative image of Islam. Allow me to demonstrate how Islam is actually the only hope of the West with some simple, quick (I'll try to be succint) points:

Fact 1: As I explained here, completely removing women's rights and freedoms is the only way to satisfactorily solve inceldom.

Fact 2: The only viable way to do it within a reasonably fast time frame is Islam reaching majority and imposing Sharia Law in western countries.

Let's be realistic: white nationalism taking over all Europe and North America (possibly southern South America and South Africa as well) has 0 chances of happening anytime soon in 2018. A fourth Reich has 0 chances of happening after Germany's loss in WWII. A rollback to XIX century West has 0 chances of happening as well.

Meanwhile, Islam is spreading rapidly throughout various western countries, especially in Europe, and would spread even faster if white natives started to convert en masse. Islam has the blessing of the status quo and even from liberals/cucks while anything right wing or traditionalist in a western manner is vehemently opposed by it, including by the elites of the world (banksters, etc).

Fact 3: To nationalists who may associate Islam with "sandniggers": Islam has no race. Many people immediately associate Islam to Arabs, but the fact is, even though Islam originated in nowadays Arabia, only a minority of Muslims are Arabs nowadays. The biggest Islamic country in the world is Asian, we have plenty of Islamic blacks, we even already have Islamic whites. People of any race can convert.

Fact 4: Contrary to ignorant @justincelthings claims, Islam does enforce women's submission to men, marriage at young age, fidelity to one man, maternal duties, etc. He linked this, furthering the idea that "The Quran does not specify specific gender roles for women".

Little does he known that Muslims are not only supposed to follow Quran text, but also the Sunnahs, which are (from Wikipedia):

"...the body of traditional social and legal custom and practice of the Islamic community, based on the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings, silent permissions (or disapprovals) of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, as well as various reports about Muhammad's companions."

Muhammad (may the peace be with him) married a girl who was between the ages of 6 and 13, and all Muslims are, through the aforementioned Sunnahs, encourage to follow his every step. How do IT and @justincelthings cucks respond to it?

An analogy to conclude: in a fight, it's very often better to go along with your opponent's attack and use his own momentum against him than to try to defend/resist the attack. This is the principle of Judo for example.

The elites want to use Islam to destabilize Western countries and increase their power, and they expect us (western men with healthy doses of testosterone who don't want to accept having their people wiped out) to act like "dumb racists", trying to protest it, become radicalized towards alt right or even national socialist views, etc. It pains me to say so but we are playing in their hands by doing so.

We must turn the tables on them by embracing Islam and purging degeneracy, feminism, LGBT shit, AoC cuckoldry (women are supposed to marry young and reproduce as soon as they're bodily matured for it, not "go study and have a career" while fucking tons of Chads and just then settling with a betabuxx to have low-quality children genetically), banksters (Islam is against Jewish supremacy and usury abuse), etc.

And especially purging the plight that is women having freedoms, authority, sexual emancipation and a say on who they marry with. THIS IDIOCY is the main reason of our inceldom and of our societies' downfall.

Thank you very much for your attention, Salaam Aleikum!
most arab islamic countries allow male poligamy so rich men can afford multiple wifes while men from lower social classes can't even get married (and consequently have sex)
 
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JFL its easier to see
I mentioned being muslim and even about "tribe" I don't think tribe thing does exist anywhere in white world anymore,but whatever. next time dont say nonsense without knowing me
Sorry I misread

Wait if you are muslim what are you even doing on this site, shouldn't you have ascended by now?, are you poor?
 
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But how do you justify that based on Islamic teachings? The quran states that all Muslims are equal so aren't you then breaking that rule through this practice?
That's one thing that annoys me about Muslims, they all LARP as "muh true believers unlike those other fake Muslims" but they all have their own pre-Islamic customs that go against the Islamic teachings. Either follow the religion or don't, there's no middle ground.
You never heard about Urf? The Islamic Fiqh has something called al-urf which gives room for social customs of different cultural groups to be practiced, that gives room for tribal customs and only marry and breed with people from your own tribe (which isn't Haram). Pre-Islamic customs which don't go against the fundamentals of Islam are allowed, pre-Islamic customs which goes against the fundamentals of Islam are Haram. Per example, an Arabic pre-Islamic custom was that if your father died the son would marry his mother and fuck his mother <- this custom is clearly against the fundamentals of Islam and therefore Haram.... Another example: Pre-Islamic Berber custom: When the female has intercourse for the first time and she bleeds, the husband would show this blood to his family members and the whole tribe would make a big party because it would proof the virginity of the female, this custom is still practiced within berber communities and it does not goes against the fundamentals of Islam, which means it's a pre-Islamic custom but at the same time there are no real sources who could call this Haram.
 
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