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Discussion Why would any incel even want to rape a woman, even if it was legal?

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What is rape to you? And based on your definition of it, do you think rape is a good thing or is justifiable?

i'd say rape is when a man takes a woman by physical force and fucks her.
it's more sure to be rape if the foid fights back, struggles, or does everything she can to prevent being raped.
without these signs, something is fishy.

i'm indifferent to rape. it's not good or bad, and in a lot of old literature it's not presented as a necessarily evil thing. i definitely don't shed tears for foids who claim they are raped.
 
Sorry that I’m a fucking human being that wants things like companionship and love
Sorry you lack self-respect. Don't you see how pathetic it is? Wanting validation from a creature that is below you? Imagine a man wanting validation from a child, or a dog. What you are doing is no different. Actually, it's probably worse.
 
What is rape to you? And based on your definition of it, do you think rape is a good thing or is justifiable? And I’m not even a #BelieveAllWomen person, I believe in being innocent until proven guilty.
Real question should be if there was no consequence for doing it what percentage of sexhavers would do it?
 
Sorry you lack self-respect. Don't you see how pathetic it is? Wanting validation from a creature that is below you? Imagine a man wanting validation from a child, or a dog. What you are doing is no different. Actually, it's probably worse.
What, you think fathers don’t want to be loved and respected by their own children? What retarded bullshit is this? And I would say dog owners want to be loved by their dogs. Stop being a fucking edgelord, I don’t even know why one would be on an incel forum in the first place if they aren’t lonely themselves.
Real question should be if there was no consequence for doing it what percentage of sexhavers would do it?
That’s actually an interesting question, how many seemingly normal people would do very illegal and immoral things if something like The Purge was a real thing.
 
What, you think fathers don’t want to be loved and respected by their own children? What retarded bullshit is this? And I would say dog owners want to be loved by their dogs.
Don't play word games, and don't move goal posts. You know what we were talking about.
 
Don't play word games, and don't move goal posts. You know what we were talking about.
Maybe you should quit being an edgelord who shits on people here who feel lonely.
 
The groveling is unsightly.
Then why are you here, a forum for men who are lonely due to struggling to be able to experience romantic relationships?
 
Then why are you here, a forum for men who are lonely due to struggling to be able to experience romantic relationships?
This is just a forum for men who are struggling to be able to experience romantic relationships, in general. Worshipping women and basing your self-woth on their opinions is not a prerequisite to joining.
 
Female hypergamy means that in an environment where foids arent dependent on (individual) men in any way whatsoever, foids would exclude somewhere about 80 to 95% of the males from sex.

We are almost already at that point. Are you saying no one but 5 to 20% is entitled to having sex with foids? Are you saying that your father (assuming he wasn't a Chad, which is pretty unlikely knowing which place you're posting at) raped your mother?

What do you specify as rape? Personally i couldnt give a fuck about what happens to foids nowadays, since theyre acting like useless whores. Imo theyre semi sentient hypergamous animals that should be controlled and opressed. Putting their feelings above the feelings(/needs) of men (a higher being compared to them) is unacceptable for a member of this forum imo.

That said, in a normal monogamous society rape should be punished hard imo (as the rapist mentally damages and embarrasses another mans foid).
 
Agreed. If I just wanted the sex, I'd get an escort. There's no point
 
Female hypergamy means that in an environment where foids arent dependent on (individual) men in any way whatsoever, foids would exclude somewhere about 80 to 95% of the males from sex.

We are almost already at that point. Are you saying no one but 5 to 20% is entitled to having sex with foids? Are you saying that your father (assuming he wasn't a Chad, which is pretty unlikely knowing which place you're posting at) raped your mother?

What do you specify as rape? Personally i couldnt give a fuck about what happens to foids nowadays, since theyre acting like useless whores. Imo theyre semi sentient hypergamous animals that should be controlled and opressed. Putting their feelings above the feelings(/needs) of men (a higher being compared to them) is unacceptable for a member of this forum imo.

That said, in a normal monogamous society rape should be punished hard imo (as the rapist mentally damages and embarrasses another mans foid).
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That’s actually an interesting question, how many seemingly normal people would do very illegal and immoral things if something like The Purge was a real thing.
100% of low inhib everyone is sadistic just virtue signaling with moralmaxxing.
 
This is just a forum for men who are struggling to be able to experience romantic relationships, in general. Worshipping women and basing your self-woth on their opinions is not a prerequisite to joining.
What, you would be okay with dating a woman who doesn’t like you?
 
Nice trap you have here.
In rape you are not getting any form of intimacy or validation from a woman.

You don't get any of that with porn and masturbation either, so I assume you never watch porn and never masturbate, right ?

I'm not going to defend rape here, but saying you don't see the appeal is stupid AF. If you desire a female, your desire doesn't magically disappear if she doesn't desire you.
 
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Nice trap you have here.


You don't get any of that with porn and masturbation either, so I assume you never watch porn and never masturbate, right ?
The difference is that in porn you aren’t interacting with a woman in person so intimacy is literally impossible.
 
The difference is that in porn you aren’t interacting with a woman in person so intimacy is literally impossible.

What are you saying ? That when you jerk off to a picture of a female, you're thinking "if only she knew me, I'm sure she'd fall in love" ?

JFL
 
What, you would be okay with dating a woman who doesn’t like you?
I don't care. The only reason I'd ever even want to be with a woman in an actual relationship is to have kids. If you just want sex you can fuck a prostitute or something, and when it comes to dealing with loneliness and seeking companionship, I much prefer the company of men. You fell for the "women as friends" meme. Very brutal.
 
I don't care. The only reason I'd ever even want to be with a woman in an actual relationship is to have kids. If you just want sex you can fuck a prostitute or something, and when it comes to dealing with loneliness and seeking companionship, I much prefer the company of men. You fell for the "women as friends" meme. Very brutal.
That’s a retarded reason to be in a relationship if it’s the only reason. You could have a surrogate kid via your sperm, instead. Or adopt.
 
Because the thought of getting fucked by an ugly male disgust women and i can kinda see it as a revenge against stacy and her bf.
 
That’s a retarded reason to be in a relationship if it’s the only reason.
What other reason is there? If it's just sex then you can get that from a prostitute. Sure, yeah, it'd be preferable to be chad and not have to pay, but you can still get it from a prostitute. If it's "love" or validation or something, then you are a simp, as I said.
 
That’s a retarded reason to be in a relationship if it’s the only reason.
It's absolutely not a retarded reason. It's actually even very respectable, IMHO.

You could have a surrogate kid via your sperm, instead. Or adopt.

Why make things simple when you can make them complicated, right ? Besides there are legal and financial hurdles to that kind of things. Not to mention that a guy can believe that it's best for a kid to be raised by both his biological father and mother.
 
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What other reason is there? If it's just sex then you can get that from a prostitute. Sure, yeah, it'd be preferable to be chad and not have to pay, but you can still get it from a prostitute. If it's "love" or validation or something, then you are a simp, as I said.
It’s not simp to want it if you know it’s impossible or very unlikely. I know no women will ever love me and I often have doubts that women can love men for who they are at all. But it still hurts that I’ll never experience it. And if you could simply have surrogate children or adopt, then why even bother with a relationship?
It's absolutely not a retarded reason. It's actually even very respectable, IMHO.
>bringing kids into this fucked up world with your shit genes
Sorry I don’t want my son to have to go through a horrid life due to my bad genetics.

you lost WWII
 
Which is simp, as I've been saying.

Children need to grow up with a mother and a father to develop properly.

I'm not a cuck. I don't want someone else's kid.
Do you think men who are lonely are simps? And if you hate women to the point where you only would be with them to have children, why would you even bother? Wouldn’t it be torture?
 
Shut up, Nazi

What do you have against Nazis anyway?
Have you read Carl Schmitt's writings on "the politic"?
Very prescient and intelligent man.
 
Female hypergamy means that in an environment where foids arent dependent on (individual) men in any way whatsoever, foids would exclude somewhere about 80 to 95% of the males from sex.

We are almost already at that point. Are you saying no one but 5 to 20% is entitled to having sex with foids? Are you saying that your father (assuming he wasn't a Chad, which is pretty unlikely knowing which place you're posting at) raped your mother?

What do you specify as rape? Personally i couldnt give a fuck about what happens to foids nowadays, since theyre acting like useless whores. Imo theyre semi sentient hypergamous animals that should be controlled and opressed. Putting their feelings above the feelings(/needs) of men (a higher being compared to them) is unacceptable for a member of this forum imo.

That said, in a normal monogamous society rape should be punished hard imo (as the rapist mentally damages and embarrasses another mans foid).
Couldn't agree more
 
What do you have against Nazis anyway?
Have you read Carl Schmitt's writings on "the politic"?
Very prescient and intelligent man.
I would say that they were behind the genocide of millions of people and want anyone non-Aryan to be exterminated but I don’t think many people here even believe the Holocaust ever even happened. So why fucking bother. This place is full of actual neo-Nazis.
 
That wasn't in the initial assumption.
But it’s a risk if you have kids as someone like we are. Either subject a son to a shit life, or have a daughter and be a cuck. Only way to guarantee your child will grow to have a good life is if your son becomes Chad, or if you have a girl.
 
That's Chad worship. Reported.
It’s not Chad worship. I just would want my children to have a good life. I don’t want my son to be an incel.
 
Do you think men who are lonely are simps?
If their loneliness stems from lack of validation by women, then yes. If they're lonely due to lack of friends or something, then no.
And if you hate women to the point where you only would be with them to have children, why would you even bother?
I don't hate women. I don't think they even have agency. I just think of them as some kind of biological machine which receives inputs and then produces an output.
Wouldn’t it be torture?
Why would it?
 
Tbh you need to stop cooming and believing foids even have emotion chad only.
 
If their loneliness stems from lack of validation by women, then yes. If they're lonely due to lack of friends or something, then no.

I don't hate women. I don't think they even have agency. I just think of them as some kind of biological machine which receives inputs and then produces an output.

Why would it?
If you think that of women, then how would you even enjoy a relationship outside of sex and having kids?
 
If you think that of women, then how would you even enjoy a relationship outside of sex and having kids?
Wdym? I said having kids was the only reason I'd want the relationship.
 
Tbh you need to stop cooming and believing foids even have emotion chad only.
Women are extremely emotional and aren’t punished for it unlike men.
Wdym? I said having kids was the only reason I'd want the relationship.
What are you doing with your potential wife if you aren’t even hanging out with her or doing things with her companions do? You’re not having sex and kids 24/7 365. Do you just shove her in a closet when you’re done?
 
My guess is OP probably never had genuine desire for a female. I mean I can't blame him, I never had a true boner when looking at a real woman until my mid 20s, maybe due to my masturbation habits back then.

Anyway, if he knew what genuine sexual desire is, he would know what drives rape, regardless of its moral aspect.
 
My guess is OP probably never had genuine desire for a female. I mean I can't blame him, I never had a true boner when looking at a woman until my mid 20s, maybe due to my masturbation habits back then.

Anyway, if he knew what genuine sexual desire is, he would know what drives rape, regardless of its moral aspect.
I’ve had crushes before, don’t assume. And I know that desire can drive rape. But even then I don’t even have rape come up at all when I see a woman I’m attracted to. In fact I don’t even want to associate with women who aren’t interested in me. Which is every woman.
 
I had crushes too of course, even as a child. That is not what I'm talking about.
A woman giving you a boner doesn’t have to mean you would want to rape her. I’ve found women sexually attractive. Many times. But I don’t ever think about raping them.
 
What are you doing with your potential wife if you aren’t even hanging out with her or doing things with her companions do? You’re not having sex and kids 24/7 365. Do you just shove her in a closet when you’re done?
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What are you talking about? You're making it out like I said I hate women and can't stand to be around them when all I expressed was mere disregard. I don't need, or even really desire, female companionship, but it's not like I have an aversion to it. I'd spend time with my family.
 
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