Theory Women secretly want us to become criminals and violent towards them

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Women are never satisfied, so just like they typically want to tame and turn the psychopath/NPD/bully/criminal into a good guy via giving him love, they also want to turn good men who are not like that into violent criminals via the terrible treatment and gaslighting they provide to us. Look how they reward incels who committed attacks with love and attention, even ugly ones like Nikolas Cruz or short and child-like ones like Elliot Rodger.

Women exist only to provoke chaos and dysfunction when they're not under total patriarchal control (like they were meant to be; women were created for us, they're not "equals").
 
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foids also like dramuh
This. They don't want "normal"/decent men personalitywise because they are "boring" and because they need "drama" - therefore they go to drugdealers and other thugmaxxers. And then they wonder when a catastrophe happens because real-life isn't Twilight, Fifty Shades Of Grey or another fanfiction written by/for white-middle-class frontholes.

Unironically, the tales of the abuser as a "master manipulator" are myths/lies, when he takes drugs in public and beats others for a living you know what a guy this is - and now comes the best part: They only start to reflect about the sociopathic tendencies of the animal they are fucking and their meaning when they are at the receiving end of his tantrums. If it was you or me or someone completely else lying there after being beaten nearly to death, she wouldn't give a fuck or even finger herself to the thought of it. No pity for women.
 
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Women are never satisfied, so just like they typically want to tame and turn the psychopath/NPD/bully/criminal into a good guy via giving him love, they also want to turn good men who are not like that into violent criminals via the terrible treatment and gaslighting they provide to us. Look how they reward incels who committed attacks with love and attention, even ugly ones like Nikolas Cruz or short and child-like ones like Elliot Rodger.

Women exist only to provoke chaos and dysfunction when they're not under total patriarchal control (like they were meant to be; women were created for us, they're not "equals").
No they just want an excuse for us to be put down and incels acting violently or criminally is the perfect opportunity for others to have no moral qualms about incels being physically hurt and/or killed.
 
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No they just want an excuse for us to be put down and incels acting violently or criminally is the perfect opportunity for others to have no moral qualms about incels being physically hurt and/or killed.
This is what I was about to say.
Women exist only to provoke chaos and dysfunction when they're not under total patriarchal control (like they were meant to be; women were created for us, they're not "equals").
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No they just want an excuse for us to be put down and incels acting violently or criminally is the perfect opportunity for others to have no moral qualms about incels being physically hurt and/or killed.
thugmaxxxing is legit for normies tbh, not subhumans
 
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Yes exactly true. Just like how Adam and Eve were in perfect paradise in the beginning. Eve was never satisfied and decided to eat the fruit and convinced Adam to do the same. It ruined everything. Women. Ruin. Everything.
 
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Absolutely true. High IQ and blackpilled.

No they just want an excuse for us to be put down and incels acting violently or criminally is the perfect opportunity for others to have no moral qualms about incels being physically hurt and/or killed.
No. They want to put weak beta males down. Violence is strength, even when it is committed by incels. If we were violent and strong enough, other men would start to respect us and females would become attracted to us.

thugmaxxxing is legit for normies tbh, not subhumans
Cope. Explain the love letters to Nikolas Cruz.
 
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No. They want to put weak beta males down.
Those "weak beta males" engaging in a violent uprising is the perfect excuse for them to put those males down.
Violence is strength, even when it is committed by incels.
No it just opens you up to more violence. Those that are violent or engage in violence are more likely to be at risk for violence. Look at the "patriots" that get themselves involved in heated and sometimes violent confrontation with antifa. The violence only escalates from there.
If we were violent and strong enough, other men would start to respect us and females would become attracted to us.
Cho doesn't have any female admirers and he had one of the highest scores before Stephen went Paddock.
 
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Those "weak beta males" engaging in a violent uprising is the perfect excuse for them to put those males down.
If they engage in a violent uprising, they are not weak beta males any longer. They might not be strong enough, but if you do not fight to begin with, you lose.

No it just opens you up to more violence. Those that are violent or engage in violence are more likely to be at risk for violence. Look at the "patriots" that get themselves involved in heated and sometimes violent confrontation with antifa. The violence only escalates from there.
It is true dark triad men are at a higher risk to have violence committed to themselves, but you either fight, or you lose. Only if you fight, you are able to win and have sex. The strongest will ultimately win.

Cho doesn't have any female admirers and he had one of the highest scores before Stephen went Paddock.
He was a rare truecel and might be an exception, but most incels are not truecels. Nikolas Cruz have female admirers, and he is a more relevant example.
 
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If they engage in a violent uprising, they are not weak beta males any longer. They might not be strong enough, but if you do not fight to begin with, you lose.
As bad as life can get for incels you can't expect them to want to rise up when the odds are against them. It's basic survival instinct to not want to put yourself in harm's way.
It is true dark triad men are at a higher risk to have violence committed to themselves, but you either fight, or you lose. Only if you fight, you are able to win and have sex. The strongest will ultimately win.
Imo one of the wonders of humankind is that you can comprehend and make sense of all this. Too often in animal documentaries and reconstructions of how dinosaurs lived there are scenarios where if the animal or dinosaur hadn't fought another challenger they wouldn't get to mate...but they would still have enough food to eat. What results then is the animals or dinosaurs taking a calculated risk to chose to put their own lives in harm's way and forgo potential opportunities to gather food and resources just for a chance to mate. They don't know any better. It's instinctual. They can't comprehend or rationalize not doing this. Humans can. Humans therefore can keep themselves out of harm's way and make decisions more beneficial to them rather than the species they are part of.

In today's world where humans particularly incels can understand how horrible life is and some not wanting or not caring to continue their genetic lineage it makes sense that some incels would be more content not fighting and coping safely rather than risk injury and death for fighting for a chance to mate. The latter of which is very cucked even if it's natural.
Women love it when men fight over them but that doesn't mean all men should be expected to do that.
He was a rare truecel and might be an exception, but most incels are not truecels. Nikolas Cruz have female admirers, and he is a more relevant example.
No tbh and Nikolas Cruz wasn't an incel. He had a girlfriend before and favorable female attention of some kind.
Anyway darktriadmaxxing as an incel isn't worth it. You are most likely throwing your life away if you are a weak, small framelet which many incels are see @SchrodingersDick pfp caption. Not to mention sacrificing your life to get women's attention and approval is extremely cucked.
And again some guys might be fine with that but other guys have no interest in passing on their genes after a lifetime of suffering already
 
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This isn’t a secret if you can spot and ignore the propaganda.
 
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I really dont want to know the secret of one single foid , much less all foids.

I believe I already know enough secrets in my lifetime, and what ever secrets foids harbor, they should keep it to themselves.
 
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As bad as life can get for incels you can't expect them to want to rise up when the odds are against them. It's basic survival instinct to not want to put yourself in harm's way.
I do not expect most incels to fight. Their survival instict is stronger than their reproductive instinct. Unironically, this is why they are incels.

Imo one of the wonders of humankind is that you can comprehend and make sense of all this. Too often in animal documentaries and reconstructions of how dinosaurs lived there are scenarios where if the animal or dinosaur hadn't fought another challenger they wouldn't get to mate...but they would still have enough food to eat. What results then is the animals or dinosaurs taking a calculated risk to chose to put their own lives in harm's way and forgo potential opportunities to gather food and resources just for a chance to mate. They don't know any better. It's instinctual. They can't comprehend or rationalize not doing this. Humans can. Humans therefore can keep themselves out of harm's way and make decisions more beneficial to them rather than the species they are part of.

In today's world where humans particularly incels can understand how horrible life is and some not wanting or not caring to continue their genetic lineage it makes sense that some incels would be more content not fighting and coping safely rather than risk injury and death for fighting for a chance to mate. The latter of which is very cucked even if it's natural.
Women love it when men fight over them but that doesn't mean all men should be expected to do that.
The biological imperative of all living beings is to spread one’s own genes, and to remove the genes of one’s enemies, as much as possible. As everyone has different and antagonistic genetic interests, conflict is unavoidable. Out of every conflict, the fittest will survive and the weaker will die. This is natural selection.

All humans are inherently selfish, and this is natural, since nature rewards selfishness. What is cucked, is therefore to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of others. Those who do not want to reproduce, are masochistic cucks. I want to reproduce. Since I am an incel, the odds for me succeeding with that are against me though, but I still have a reproductive instict.

Dying childless is the ultimate evolutionary failure. Fighting for a chance to reproduce is therefore not cucked. The survival of your bloodline is more important than the survival of yourself as an individual. You will die some day anyway, but your offspring will continue spreading your genes.

No tbh and Nikolas Cruz wasn't an incel. He had a girlfriend before and favorable female attention of some kind.
Anyway darktriadmaxxing as an incel isn't worth it. You are most likely throwing your life away if you are a weak, small framelet which many incels are see @SchrodingersDick pfp caption. Not to mention sacrificing your life to get women's attention and approval is extremely cucked.
And again some guys might be fine with that but other guys have no interest in passing on their genes after a lifetime of suffering already
Nikolas Cruz would have been an incel if he were not dark triad.
 
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I do not expect most incels to fight. Their survival instict is stronger than their reproductive instinct. Unironically, this is why they are incels.
I disagree. Incels are incels because they don't pass a looks threshold that women require. Chads can be violent or not violent and still slay. For normies darktriadmaxxing matters a bit more but it's not a guarantee unless you statusmaxx and famemaxx hard and become very notorious and leave your mark on history so that most people in your country know your name. Not an easy thing for any one person to do. A softer example is statusmaxxxing through gangsta rap but that isn't fully successfully for all but a few "lucky" guys.
The biological imperative of all living beings is to spread one’s own genes, and to remove the genes of one’s enemies, as much as possible. As everyone has different and antagonistic genetic interests, conflict is unavoidable. Out of every conflict, the fittest will survive and the weaker will die. This is natural selection.
Yeah but human society has moved far from natural selection. Medicine heals the weak, sick and infirm that would have died in such a world. We don't live in such a world anymore so your appeals to nature aren't fully convincing.

"The fittest survive and the weak will die" is exactly the argument used to subjugate incels in a society that has already done away with many aspects of natural selection such as helping the weaker among us live and making rape and recklessly reproducing without caring for your children morally frowned upon and illegal.
All humans are inherently selfish, and this is natural, since nature rewards selfishness. What is cucked, is therefore to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of others. Those who do not want to reproduce, are masochistic cucks. I want to reproduce. Since I am an incel, the odds for me succeeding with that are against me though, but I still have a reproductive instict.
You don't take into account what happens after you reproduce. How will your children grow up? Will they be damaged by life like many incels are? What is stopping them from taking that frustration out on you and lashing out violently at you when they come of age? Are you prepared for the expense, time, effort and money that will go into raising them? It's not as easy as you spreading your genes and not having to pay for your spawn. Also your children will likely be indoctrinated to rebel against you and hold you in contempt by the same society you live in now. Many children rebel against their parents. They likely won't share the same beliefs as you when they come of age. For evidence see people here like @Words2_live_bye who I believe was raised a Jehovah's witness. He isn't that anymore. You can't mold children in your image as hard as you try in a world like this.

You want to reproduce but you are trying to put others down by saying that those that don't want to reproduce are masochistic cucks. That's the problem here. You do what you want but don't expect other incels to follow you in wanting to reproduce after they have already had a difficult enough life. Once you have a child it's not something you can take back. In today's world every child you have will mean more commitment that you have to them far into the future.
Dying childless is the ultimate evolutionary failure. Fighting for a chance to reproduce is therefore not cucked. The survival of your bloodline is more important than the survival of yourself as an individual. You will die some day anyway, but your offspring will continue spreading your genes.
Don't care. Most normies don't even have to fight that hard yet you as an incel will spend much more energy simply trying to fight for a chance to reproduce. By doing that you bestow the highest honor upon foids by competing with other men for them and having to put in more work. Yeah you might spread your genes but you also might be cuckolded thinking you spread your genes only to find out later that the children you had weren't yours. And then all that fighting would have been useless.
Nikolas Cruz would have been an incel if he were not dark triad.
Nikolas Cruz had a gf before he went fully darktriad and did a mass shooting.
 
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Women are never satisfied, so just like they typically want to tame and turn the psychopath/NPD/bully/criminal into a good guy via giving him love, they also want to turn good men who are not like that into violent criminals via the terrible treatment and gaslighting they provide to us. Look how they reward incels who committed attacks with love and attention, even ugly ones like Nikolas Cruz or short and child-like ones like Elliot Rodger.

Women exist only to provoke chaos and dysfunction when they're not under total patriarchal control (like they were meant to be; women were created for us, they're not "equals").
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I disagree. Incels are incels because they don't pass a looks threshold that women require. Chads can be violent or not violent and still slay. For normies darktriadmaxxing matters a bit more but it's not a guarantee unless you statusmaxx and famemaxx hard and become very notorious and leave your mark on history so that most people in your country know your name. Not an easy thing for any one person to do. A softer example is statusmaxxxing through gangsta rap but that isn't fully successfully for all but a few "lucky" guys.
Violent Chads slay more than non-violent Chads. There are two blackpilled principles which are simultaneously true:

1) The more attractive you are, the higher sexual success you will have.
2) The more dark triad you are, the higher sexual success you will have.

If you are bad in one of them, you should compensate in the other.

Yeah but human society has moved far from natural selection. Medicine heals the weak, sick and infirm that would have died in such a world. We don't live in such a world anymore so your appeals to nature aren't fully convincing.

"The fittest survive and the weak will die" is exactly the argument used to subjugate incels in a society that has already done away with many aspects of natural selection such as helping the weaker among us live and making rape and recklessly reproducing without caring for your children morally frowned upon and illegal.
No. It is impossible to move away from natural selection. It is a natural law which also applies to human societies. The weak are only taken care of because they are (wage)slaves who produce wealth to the strong. The strongest thus benefit from it, so the strongest still rules.

Rape is illegal because it is an evolutionary crime. Men want to prevent other men from reproducing (colloquially known as “cockblocking”), because there is a competition. Men also do not want their female relatives do be raped, because they want to make sure that they reproduce with men of high genetic quality, since they are their relatives and thus also carry some of their own genes.

“The fittest survie and the weak will die” is not an argument. It is a fact. Arguing against that, is like arguing that 1 + 1 = 3. This particular fact just happens to negatively affect incels the most.

You don't take into account what happens after you reproduce. How will your children grow up? Will they be damaged by life like many incels are? What is stopping them from taking that frustration out on you and lashing out violently at you when they come of age? Are you prepared for the expense, time, effort and money that will go into raising them? It's not as easy as you spreading your genes and not having to pay for your spawn. Also your children will likely be indoctrinated to rebel against you and hold you in contempt by the same society you live in now. Many children rebel against their parents. They likely won't share the same beliefs as you when they come of age. For evidence see people here like @Words2_live_bye who I believe was raised a Jehovah's witness. He isn't that anymore. You can't mold children in your image as hard as you try in a world like this.

You want to reproduce but you are trying to put others down by saying that those that don't want to reproduce are masochistic cucks. That's the problem here. You do what you want but don't expect other incels to follow you in wanting to reproduce after they have already had a difficult enough life. Once you have a child it's not something you can take back. In today's world every child you have will mean more commitment that you have to them far into the future.
With my genes, I do not think that my children would kill me or rebel against me, because I am not the self-hating type. I do not hate my own family for creating me. In fact, I thank them for that, because I love myself. I only hate people who are against me and my genetic interests, which is most people.

I would take the risk of being killed by my own children in order to pass on my genes though, because as I said, the survival of your bloodline is more important than the survival of yourself as an individual. My children might not have grandchildren, and thus there is a possibility of me not passing on my genes even if I have children, but if I do not have any children, there is a guarantee that I will not pass on my genes.

I also would not let my children be indoctrinated by (((media))). I would be the one indoctrinating them to the truth. I would also give them hormones at puberty, exercise and a good diet, especially consisting of much meat, in order to increase the probability of them succeeding evolutionarily as much as possible.

Don't care. Most normies don't even have to fight that hard yet you as an incel will spend much more energy simply trying to fight for a chance to reproduce. By doing that you bestow the highest honor upon foids by competing with other men for them and having to put in more work. Yeah you might spread your genes but you also might be cuckolded thinking you spread your genes only to find out later that the children you had weren't yours. And then all that fighting would have been useless.
I care more about myself than other men, and I would make sure that my children are my own via a paternity test and by controlling and acting dark triad towards the female I have the children with, as it highly decreases the risk of her cheating.

Nikolas Cruz had a gf before he went fully darktriad and did a mass shooting.
He probably had dark triad traits even before he committed the mass shooting.
 
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Violent Chads slay more than non-violent Chads. There are two blackpilled principles which are simultaneously true:

1) The more attractive you are, the higher sexual success you will have.
2) The more dark triad you are, the higher sexual success you will have.

If you are bad in one of them, you should compensate in the other.
Okay in that case why haven't you attempted to be more dark triad and aren't out there slaying foids?
No. It is impossible to move away from natural selection. It is a natural law which also applies to human societies. The weak are only taken care of because they are (wage)slaves who produce wealth to the strong. The strongest thus benefit from it, so the strongest still rules.

Rape is illegal because it is an evolutionary crime. Men want to prevent other men from reproducing (colloquially known as “cockblocking”), because there is a competition. Men also do not want their female relatives do be raped, because they want to make sure that they reproduce with men of high genetic quality, since they are their relatives and thus also carry some of their own genes.

“The fittest survie and the weak will die” is not an argument. It is a fact. Arguing against that, is like arguing that 1 + 1 = 3. This particular fact just happens to negatively affect incels the most.
Yeah it negatively affects incels the most but the fittest surviving and the weak dying is not absolute in today's world. The weak aren't only taken care of because they are wageslaves who produce wealth to the strong. The weak are also taken care of because there is modern medicine and society is prosperous enough to try and reach toward a more ideal state where you don't just leave the weakest members of society to outright suffer and die.
With my genes, I do not think that my children would kill me or rebel against me, because I am not the self-hating type. I do not hate my own family for creating me. In fact, I thank them for that, because I love myself. I only hate people who are against me and my genetic interests, which is most people.
Okay I'm not saying whether you should reproduce or not. Only that you can't expect all incels to want to put themselves out there just for a chance to spread their genes.
I would take the risk of being killed by my own children in order to pass on my genes though, because as I said, the survival of your bloodline is more important than the survival of yourself as an individual. My children might not have grandchildren, and thus there is a possibility of me not passing on my genes even if I have children, but if I do not have any children, there is a guarantee that I will not pass on my genes.
That's your decision to make.
I also would not let my children be indoctrinated by (((media))). I would be the one indoctrinating them to the truth. I would also given them hormones at puberty, exercise and a good diet, especially consisting of much meat, in order to increase the possibility of them succeeding evolutionarily as much as possible.
It's easier said than done to think your children will not be indoctrinated by the media. If they go to public schools, have to interact with their peers (who will likely have exposure to social media and pop culture and will influence your child that way) and have to eventually live and work like everyone else your children would not be insulated from the media's influence and could grow up so sheltered that once they get out into the real world they crack.

The only way you could make sure of what you are trying to achieve is imo if you homeschooled your children, taught them how to be as darktriad and sociable as possible, had enough riches to support them to adulthood to do this and be able to help arrange a marriage for them in a system more closely resembling enforced monogamy and not the system of serial monogamy and polyandry present today.

The hormones, exercise and good diet will help them sure but what if it is not enough? What if they end up still being short and with narrow frames despite your best efforts? There are no guarantees here.
I care more about myself than other men, and I would make sure that my children are my own via a paternity test and by controlling and acting dark triad towards the female I have the children with, as it highly decreases the risk of her cheating.
Okay you can do that then. But you looking down on guys that choose not to even try and have kids because they are too damaged by a lifetime of mistreatment and failure is not needed. It's their decision just like it's your decision to want to reproduce.
He probably had dark triad traits even before he committed the mass shooting.
He was driven by jealousy even before the shooting but many normies get jealous and angry at their former girlfriends getting a new boyfriend