Story Would you stay with a woman if she still loved you more than other men, despite also finding other men more attractive?

[FrothySolutions]

If you're familiar with creepy/paranormal/true crime/etc. YouTube videos, you've probably in the last 5 years come across the story of jojotsai1012. Maybe you don't recognize the name, but you probably recognize a picture by her, in some list of creepy true Internet stories. Her perched atop some... structure, looking down at the night streets.

It's understood that at some point she committed suicide, largely because of a breakup. She was so madly in love with her ex-boyfriend, she could not live without him.

But I wanna talk about the post she made that kicked off her descent into madness. A post about what she did when they first broke up. Translation is included on the right.

The part I wanna point out here is how she said "I had my pick of dudes, every last one of them much richer and hotter than my ex-boyfriend. But I still love you best baby please come back!"

Many people look at this post and say "See? See how inconsequential looks and money are?" But not me. I'd rather be one of those rich handsome guys, and never marry, never be "loved" by any woman, and enjoy whatever it is she was giving up to those guys. Inversely, I would hate to be the prize amongst so many superior show dogs because I excelled in the "Love" category. Fuck love. I want to be valued for how hot I am. I want to meet women who like to fuck. Not women who will fuck me because they've grown attached to the soul within me. I want them to wanna fuck me for other reasons. The reasons people who like to fuck like to fuck.

Maybe that's wrong. But it's what I want. And I don't wanna be right.

 

[autisticghost]

Yes. it's not like she could control that. Similarly I would find other women attractive.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Yes. it's not like she could control that. Similarly I would find other women attractive.

Not just "attractive." More attractive. It's understandable that other people are "attractive" even though you're married. But not "more" attractive. Not "more" fuckable. You wouldn't rather fuck them than your wife.

 

[Angry_runt]

I'd be okay with either, but a foid who just wants to have sex won't be doing things for you that a foid who loves you will. Like if you tell a FWB foid to clean your house, why would she if she can find another good looking guy in 15 minutes on Tinder?

 

[PotatoTomato]

Not just "attractive." More attractive. It's understandable that other people are "attractive" even though you're married. But not "more" attractive. Not "more" fuckable. You wouldn't rather fuck them than your wife.

There will always be girls that are more physically attractive than your wife out there

 

[autisticghost]

Not just "attractive." More attractive. It's understandable that other people are "attractive" even though you're married. But not "more" attractive. Not "more" fuckable. You wouldn't rather fuck them than your wife.

honestly at this point I would take anything man.

 

[FrothySolutions]

There will always be girls that are more physically attractive than your wife out there

What a horrible state, to be married, and to see a woman, and to think "I'd rather fuck her than my own wife." Marriage is supposed to sacred, your wife should be the only woman in the world for you.

 

[PotatoTomato]

What a horrible state, to be married, and to see a woman, and to think "I'd rather fuck her than my own wife." Marriage is supposed to sacred, your wife should be the only woman in the world for you.

I can love a woman and only have eyes for her, and recognize that other women are genetically superior

 

[Reprobus]

Easily love. I could find a hooker and get laid any day, I need affection and someone that loves me. Also you didn’t show the picture of him, he could easily be chad

 

[FrothySolutions]

I can love a woman and only have eyes for her, and recognize that other women are genetically superior

Then what does "only have eyes for her" mean?

 

[PotatoTomato]

Then what does "only have eyes for her" mean?

It means that I would only have sex with her.
Just because I find other women physically attractive doesn't mean I'll fuck them JFL. If I love a girl I don't care about the others no matter how "hot" they are

 

[Glast]

Brutal Nexpopill.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Brutal Nexpopill.

Nexpo wasn't the first to cover this, this is old news.

It means that I would only have sex with her.
Just because I find other women physically attractive doesn't mean I'll fuck them JFL. If I love a girl I don't care about the others no matter how "hot" they are

Is that what you mean by "not having eyes?" You won't cheat on her? Maybe you won't act on your impulses, but you still have the impulses. And that's still bad. This is why spouses tend to not like it when their spouses watch porn. They're not having sex, but they're watching the porn and the porn alienates what sexual affections would otherwise go to the spouse. You're looking at the starlet and thinking "Man, fucking her would be great, even better than fucking my wife." You shouldn't cheat on your wife, but you shouldn't fantasize about cheating on your wife either. It's like not loving her, but still providing for her.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

she is a free prostitutr may as well use it while u can. better than fucking an escort or betabuxing a whore who has been fucked by multiple men who have frame of a coat hanger

 

[PotatoTomato]

Is that what you mean by "not having eyes?" You won't cheat on her? Maybe you won't act on your impulses, but you still have the impulses. And that's still bad. This is why spouses tend to not like it when their spouses watch porn. They're not having sex, but they're watching the porn and the porn alienates what sexual affections would otherwise go to the spouse. You're looking at the starlet and thinking "Man, fucking her would be great, even better than fucking my wife." You shouldn't cheat on your wife, but you shouldn't fantasize about cheating on your wife either. It's like not loving her, but still providing for her.

Okay, let me put it this way:
I had a crush on a specific girl in middle school. She was not the most physically attractive girl in class. At all. Other girls were objectively genetically superior. I still didn't care about them. They were hotter, but I didn't give a shit about them as people.

I really don't understand this obsession you have about being the hottest guy on the planet or whatever. But to each their own. If you don't want a girl to love you and only care about being worshipped for your physical appearance, you can just pay a whore to pretend to find you as attractive as Adonis lol

 

[Robtical]

Many people look at this post and say "See? See how inconsequential looks and money are?" But not me. I'd rather be one of those rich handsome guys, and never marry, never be "loved" by any woman, and enjoy whatever it is she was giving up to those guys. Inversely, I would hate to be the prize amongst so many superior show dogs because I excelled in the "Love" category. Fuck love. I want to be valued for how hot I am. I want to meet women who like to fuck. Not women who will fuck me because they've grown attached to the soul within me. I want them to wanna fuck me for other reasons. The reasons people who like to fuck like to fuck.

There's ugly foids that would be enjoyable to fuck because they have nice bodies, so if you're very ugly and gymmaxxed, or naturally in shape, you can at least cope by believing the foid's attracted to your body in case you ever ascend.

 

[Glast]

Nexpo wasn't the first to cover this, this is old news.

True, but that screencap is from his video.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Okay, let me put it this way:
I had a crush on a specific girl in middle school. She was not the most physically attractive girl in class. At all. Other girls were objectively genetically superior. I still didn't care about them. They were hotter, but I didn't give a shit about them as people.

I really don't understand this obsession you have about being the hottest guy on the planet or whatever. But to each their own. If you don't want a girl to love you, you can just pay a whore to pretend to find you as attractive as Adonis lol

Pretending isn't the same. She has to actually want me physically.

And I get you like this girl as a person, but it's like Rachael said in Blade Runner. Your spouse should be all you need. No porn, no coveting other women, none of that.

There's ugly foids that would be enjoyable to fuck because they have nice bodies, so if you're very ugly and gymmaxxed, or naturally in shape, you can at least cope by believing the foid's attracted to your body in case you ever ascend.

If their bodies, their physical bodies, are attractive, how are they ugly? You mean butterfaces? In order to be ugly you gotta be all around ugly. A butterface just happens to have an unfortunate face.

 

[Robtical]

If their bodies, their physical bodies, are attractive, how are they ugly? You mean butterfaces? In order to be ugly you gotta be all around ugly. A butterface just happens to have an unfortunate face.

Male butterfaces are incels in the cucked west, especially if they're mentalcels and brokecels. So if you're one of them your only chance is to try to moneymax and go to SEasia where their standards might not be as high.

 

[PotatoTomato]

And I get you like this girl as a person, but it's like Rachael said in Blade Runner. Your spouse should be all you need. No porn, no coveting other women, none of that.

Okay then?
Is the girl in the OP saying she wants to be with other guys? Isn't it exactly because she only wanted to be with that one dude that she killed herself?

Pretending isn't the same. She has to actually want me physically.

Why are you so obsessed with that? Just curious
You will never be the hottest guy on the planet. None of us will. There will always be someone who physically mogs you

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

No. I should be seen as the king of my castle so to speak. This kinda sounds like foid logic.

Foids can't see other people as more attractive and still be happy

 

[lonelyintesified]

well, I know that if I ever had a wife, hypothetically, she probably wouldn't like me for my looks alone. I can understand that and know that other guys out there are more attractive than me. However, if she always talked about how superior other men were, I'd be hurt. When you love someone, they should become the most attractive person in the world.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

well, I know that if I ever had a wife, hypothetically, she probably wouldn't like me for my looks alone. I can understand that and know that other guys out there are more attractive than me. However, if she always talked about how superior other men were, I'd be hurt. When you love someone, they should become the most attractive person in the world.

how can a women be attracted to u if u don't have the frame of a coat hanger

?

 

[FrothySolutions]

Okay then?
Is the girl in the OP saying she wants to be with other guys? Isn't it exactly because she only wanted to be with that one dude that she killed herself?

Why are you so obsessed with that? Just curious
You will never be the hottest guy on the planet. None of us will. There will always be someone who physically mogs you

I don't need to be the hottest guy on the planet, but you better have a damn good reason for coming back to me if you can supposedly do better. To say "I have my pick of hot guys, but I like you despite your failures in those categories which I will specifically point out" is an insult.

But as far as a spouse, effectively yes they have to be the hottest, best, and only one in the world for their significant other. Not "best overall despite lagging in other points." The best. Someone you can say "I don't need any other women in my life for anything. Here is the one that is best at all things I'll ever need." They have to be worth the eternal commitment.

 

[lonelyintesified]

how can a women be attracted to u if u don't have the frame of a coat hangerView attachment 338752?

beats me

 

[FrothySolutions]

No. I should be seen as the king of my castle so to speak. This kinda sounds like foid logic.

Foids can't see other people as more attractive and still be happy

Jojo was. She saw all those other men as more attractive. But she still chose her ex-boyfriend over them.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Jojo was. She saw all those other men as more attractive. But she still chose her ex-boyfriend over them.

Theres an exception to every rule brocel. But majority wins. She's one girl in a pool of millions.

 

[Strong One]

I'd stay, obviously there will be others whom are objectively more esthetically handsome than me but that wouldn't matter as long as I know for certain that the women has loyalty to me as I would have to her. This is all of course hypothetical so take it as you will.

 

[PotatoTomato]

I don't need to be the hottest guy on the planet, but you better have a damn good reason for coming back to me if you can supposedly do better. To say "I have my pick of hot guys, but I like you despite your failures in those categories which I will specifically point out" is an insult.

But as far as a spouse, effectively yes they have to be the hottest, best, and only one in the world for their significant other. Not "best overall despite lagging in other points." The best. Someone you can say "I don't need any other women in my life for anything. Here is the one that is best at all things I'll ever need." They have to be worth the eternal commitment.

Don't really understand that but you do you.

All human beings have physical flaws.
I don't expect to be considered the hottest guy in the planet as I am well aware of my manlet status, + mediocre face. I expect to be "enough" physically and want to feel loved by another human being despite my flaws. Which seems impossible given that we live in a hypersexualized hellscape of a society where sexual features are the most important thing in male-female relationships
SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX OOGA BOOGA MONKEY SEES HOTTER MONKEY MUST COPULATE WITH NEW MONKEY ME WANT TO FIND FLAWLESS PERFECT MONKEY THAT DOES NOT EXIST is not exactly the type of lifestyle I want or care about
When I think of an ideal wife I don't think of a supermodel JFL. Not to mention looks degrade over time anyway

I'd stay, obviously there will be others whom are objectively more esthetically handsome than me but that wouldn't matter as long as I know for certain that the women has loyalty to me as I would have to her. This is all of course hypothetical so take it as you will.

+1
problem is women have no loyalty, sadly

 

[Deleted member 21768]

Genuinely have feelings for me? Then yes. Why would I have a problem if she somehow finds other guys more attractive than me?
I would bet I would see girls more attractive than her too, but that wouldn't mean I would want them as I would want the girl I'm with that I adore and she adores me.

 

[Strong One]

+1
problem is women have no loyalty, sadly

This is all hypothetical of course. These type of women are so rare they're almost mythical, I'd estimate only hundreds exist across the world. Sad but true.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Genuinely have feelings for me? Then yes. Why would I have a problem if she somehow finds other guys more attractive than me?
I would bet I would see girls more attractive than her too, but that wouldn't mean I would want them as I would want the girl I'm with that I adore and she adores me.

But you wanna fuck them more than you wanna fuck your own wife?

 

[Deleted member 21768]

But you wanna fuck them more than you wanna fuck your own wife?

Attraction generally means you would like to have sex with them. You don't have control over who you're attracted to. When you're in your 90s, you would be attracted to a 25 year old even if you had a wife for 60 years. You can't control the attraction, but you can control the action and not act on it.
I care for affection. I personally want love. If I just wanted meaningless sex, I would have lost my virginity long ago by scratching up the little money I have to buy a whore for an hour or something whether illegal or not. I would risk it and hope I don't go to jail buying the prostitute if I was that hungry for meaningless sex.

I want a wife, kids, and a family. No dogs, though.

 

[MaxZM98]

foids love what they are attracted to

this makes no sense

 

[FrothySolutions]

Attraction generally means you would like to have sex with them. You don't have control over who you're attracted to. When you're in your 90s, you would be attracted to a 25 year old even if you had a wife for 60 years. You can't control the attraction, but you can control the action and not act on it.
I care for affection. I personally want love. If I just wanted meaningless sex, I would have lost my virginity long ago by scratching up the little money I have to buy a whore for an hour or something whether illegal or not. I would risk it and hope I don't go to jail buying the prostitute if I was that hungry for meaningless sex.

I want a wife, kids, and a family. No dogs, though.

But people, when they think about marriage, they mean being with the only person in the world you're ever gonna want to have sex with. Not the person you'd agree to only having sex with in exchange for what might be more important. I'm not supposed to want to make up for my wife's ugliness by lusting after other women.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

there's always a bigger chad. I would be fine with becky or even beckylite. but foids don't want looksmatch

 

[BITG]

Every normie relationship ever JFL

 

[Deleted member 21768]

But people, when they think about marriage, they mean being with the only person in the world you're ever gonna want to have sex with. Not the person you'd agree to only having sex with in exchange for what might be more important. I'm not supposed to want to make up for my wife's ugliness by lusting after other women.

I never mentioned lust though. What you're implying is if I'm eating a twinkie, I can't see a birthday cake in the window of a shop and think it looks tasty. Does it mean I'll go into the store and buy that cake? No, it doesn't. Does it mean I will fantasize about that cake the next time I eat another twinkie? No, because it's a one time situation.
Another example would be seeing a Ferrari while you're driving a Sedan. I'm supposed to somehow turn off my mind from ever liking that Ferrari? It does not mean I hate my Sedan or that I wish that Ferrari was my Sedan. I might see a girl that I find really attractive that isn't my wife, but that does not mean I wish that girl was my wife or want to fantasize that girl while I'm having sex with my wife.

In the past when I was growing up, I've seen a lot of attractive pornstars. I never once thought about wanting to marry one. Not wife material. Attraction does not equal wanting to spend your life with them or wanting to be affectionate with them. This is also why I've said most of the girls I want tend to not be 6/10 and up. I just don't find them the types of girls I'm interested in. Give me a normal looking affectionate girl and I'm going to be the happiest person in the world if she cares about me.

 

[FrothySolutions]

I never mentioned lust though. What you're implying is if I'm eating a twinkie, I can't see a birthday cake in the window of a shop and think it looks tasty. Does it mean I'll go into the store and buy that cake? No, it doesn't. Does it mean I will fantasize about that cake the next time I eat another twinkie? No, because it's a one time situation.
Another example would be seeing a Ferrari while you're driving a Sedan. I'm supposed to somehow turn off my mind from ever liking that Ferrari? It does not mean I hate my Sedan or that I wish that Ferrari was my Sedan. I might see a girl that I find really attractive that isn't my wife, but that does not mean I wish that girl was my wife or want to fantasize that girl while I'm having sex with my wife.

In the past when I was growing up, I've seen a lot of attractive pornstars. I never once thought about wanting to marry one. Not wife material. Attraction does not equal wanting to spend your life with them or wanting to be affectionate with them. This is also why I've said most of the girls I want tend to not be 6/10 and up. I just don't find them the types of girls I'm interested in. Give me a normal looking affectionate girl and I'm going to be the happiest person in the world if she cares about me.

You're not supposed to commit to food or a car. You can want more than one food or car. You're supposed to want only one wife. Maybe you won't think about that cake when next you eat a Twinkie, but that's because you don't have to. If you want that cake, you can just have it. And if you can't have that cake, why wouldn't you fantasize about it? As much as one would fantasize about a food?

 

[Deleted member 21768]

You're not supposed to commit to food or a car. You can want more than one food or car. You're supposed to want only one wife. Maybe you won't think about that cake when next you eat a Twinkie, but that's because you don't have to. If you want that cake, you can just have it. And if you can't have that cake, why wouldn't you fantasize about it? As much as one would fantasize about a food?

If you're poor, you take what you can get. Whether it's food, cars, or a choice in a girl. In food, I just want something I enjoy eating, I personally don't care for cars, and in a girl there has to be an attraction, but I'm not asking for a super model.

You mention that I won't think about the cake the next time I eat a Twinkie because I don't have to. Who say the next time I would have sex with my wife I would have to think about the other girl? Chances are I would not ever think about that one girl I would've seen in the street again. I've seen many attractive girls out in the street for years and I seriously can't remember how any of them look now. I don't know them and they don't know me so I easily get them out of my mind rather quickly.

As for the cake, you said I can have it. Which is true, but I can't eat it at the same time with that Twinkie. I would have to either finish up that Twinkie first, or in the case of the girl I would have to finish up this relationship if I'm that interested in the other girl, or throw the Twinkie away, as in dump the other girl. But that's thinking like a girl and not as a guy. Girls in general leave guys if they find someone else attractive. That or they cheat. I don't think like that because I'm not a girl. Why would I fantasize about a cake I can't have? That's stupid. I also don't fantasize about food or a specific girl.

If I fantasize about anything, it's I fantasize about having a girl that cares about me. This means in the idea of a car or food, I would fantasize about food if I'm hungry if I can't get food right now and I have no control over getting food at the moment. I would fantasize about a care if I care about having a car because I don't have one and want to travel places without using public transportation or my feet. I'm not thinking of a specific food or a specific car.
When I'm hungry, I want something to eat that doesn't taste like shit.
As I'm incel, I want a girl that doesn't treat me like shit.

 

[Over_this_Life]

I think love is cope. Foids never truly love men; they love what they provide

 

[FrothySolutions]

If you're poor, you take what you can get. Whether it's food, cars, or a choice in a girl. In food, I just want something I enjoy eating, I personally don't care for cars, and in a girl there has to be an attraction, but I'm not asking for a super model.

You mention that I won't think about the cake the next time I eat a Twinkie because I don't have to. Who say the next time I would have sex with my wife I would have to think about the other girl? Chances are I would not ever think about that one girl I would've seen in the street again. I've seen many attractive girls out in the street for years and I seriously can't remember how any of them look now. I don't know them and they don't know me so I easily get them out of my mind rather quickly.

As for the cake, you said I can have it. Which is true, but I can't eat it at the same time with that Twinkie. I would have to either finish up that Twinkie first, or in the case of the girl I would have to finish up this relationship if I'm that interested in the other girl, or throw the Twinkie away, as in dump the other girl. But that's thinking like a girl and not as a guy. Girls in general leave guys if they find someone else attractive. That or they cheat. I don't think like that because I'm not a girl. Why would I fantasize about a cake I can't have? That's stupid. I also don't fantasize about food or a specific girl.

If I fantasize about anything, it's I fantasize about having a girl that cares about me. This means in the idea of a car or food, I would fantasize about food if I'm hungry if I can't get food right now and I have no control over getting food at the moment. I would fantasize about a care if I care about having a car because I don't have one and want to travel places without using public transportation or my feet. I'm not thinking of a specific food or a specific car.
When I'm hungry, I want something to eat that doesn't taste like shit.
As I'm incel, I want a girl that doesn't treat me like shit.

This is why the food allegory isn't working. We're not on the same page as far as how they carry over. If we're using food as an allegory for people and the relationships you have with them, I meant staying with one woman is akin to only ever eating Twinkies for the rest of your life. Not only ever eating one single Twinkie forever.

But in either case, you're not obligated to stay with that Twinkie. Why can't you have that cake? Why do you have to stay with that Twinkie? Because you committed to it? You're suppose to commit to someone that will fill every need. That truly will be the only cake for you from now on. The way you describe it, you're saying "Yeah there's other cakes worth being with, but I'm gonna stick with this one cake. Even though it's inferior. Why? Because that's the promise I made." And that's nice, but that promise has to be built on something worth the principle.

To stay with this Twinkie, while lusting after that cake, and saying "What a good and honorable pastry husband I am by limiting myself to only masturbating to the cake/talking to people online about how delicious I think the cake is, but never actually eating the cake," that's a cold comfort to the Twinkie. I daresay the Twinkie thought this would be more than that.

 

[Deleted member 19546]

If you agree looks are objective, then you know there exists a tiny percent of the population that mogs 99.9% of other men, that means that every of those men in a relationship, their wife/GF finds other men better looking.

 

[FrothySolutions]

If you agree looks are objective, then you know there exists a tiny percent of the population that mogs 99.9% of other men, that means that every of those men in a relationship, their wife/GF finds other men better looking.

If you agree that looks are objective, why would you be upset when your spouse lusts after other people?

 

[Ellsworth]

Yes. it's not like she could control that. Similarly I would find other women attractive.

Yes; it’s almost a certainty every couple will both find other people more attractive than their partner.

 

[PPEcel]

Yes; it’s almost a certainty every couple will both find other people more attractive than their partner.

 

[Deleted member 19546]

why would you be upset when your spouse lusts after other people?

Why wouldn’t I?

 

[Adamhastor]

your wife should be the only woman in the world for you

Cucks.co

I should be seen as the king of my castle

Since when do you have castles in your jungle ?

 

[DeepSea]

This is why spouses tend to not like it when their spouses watch porn. They're not having sex, but they're watching the porn and the porn alienates what sexual affections would otherwise go to the spouse. You're looking at the starlet and thinking "Man, fucking her would be great, even better than fucking my wife."

The main reason why most men who are in committed relationships consume pornography is because they aren't getting as much sex as they want.

This study shows that once a women 'bonds' or knows she has fully secured her mates commitment, there is a high likelihood that she will lose interest in sex, even if her partner is attractive. To quote the author "Women have evolved to have a high sex drive when they are initially in a relationship in order to form a "pair bond" with their partner. But, once this bond is sealed a woman's sexual appetite declines."

The fact that gay couples have much more sex on average than heterosexual couples can only be explained by the fact that women have a lower sex drive and frequently deny their partners sex.

Many men don't want to appear needy as this makes them more unattractive in their partners' eyes, so instead of begging for sex everyday, they consume porn whenever their partners aren't "in the mood". For most of history, it used to be considered inappropriate for married women to deny sex for no valid reason, and marital rape was legal in the United States until the 1990s. Unfortunately, today women are allowed to be as selfish as they want and are no longer expected to take care of their partners' sexual needs.

You shouldn't cheat on your wife, but you shouldn't fantasize about cheating on your wife either. It's like not loving her, but still providing for her.

I think it should be acceptable for married men to visit prostitutes. Men are much at compartmentalizing sex and love than women. As long as you don't fall in love with the prostitute, I wouldn't even consider it cheating.

 

[Loner94]

Jojo was. She saw all those other men as more attractive. But she still chose her ex-boyfriend over them.

Whose JoJO ?