[Serious] An autistic male transforming himself into a Machiavellian is the flip-side of an autistic male transitioning genders

Atavistic Autist

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Both are attempts of the autist to increase his social status, get attention/recognition, and fit in.

But what do they result in? In most cases, disappointment and failure.

Just as many transsexuals commit suicide, even or perhaps especially if they enjoy initial success in getting low tier normies to buttfuck them, many autists who try to become manipulative Machiavellians, even or perhaps especially if they enjoy initial success in it (as in a career setting), will just end up crashing and burning because they're not able to reconcile their lies with their true selves.

What the actual psychopath and foid have going for them is that their entire lives are lies. They aren't even pretending when they present themselves as artificial edifices: they are artificial edifices, the consummate NPCs.

But an autist has a true inner core, on the contrary. And rather than trying to be something you're not, self-actualizing through NEETdom and the cultivation of your special interests is the true way forward.
 
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and this is related to inceldom how?
 
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and this is related to inceldom how?
Transsexualism is a cope for inceldom, largely employed by autistic males, and there is currently a thread on this very board encouraging autistic males to become Machiavellians.
 
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I see
Good thing im neet
 
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An autistic male who gives up has 0% chance at success and attaining happiness. An Autistic male who actually gives life a red-hot attempt has a >0% chance at becoming successful, no matter how slim the chance. Conversely, there will be a slim chance that the autist who tries his best at life wont commit suicide, whereas suicide is pretty much guaranteed for an autist who gives up and succumbs to the futility and meaninglessness of life.

But yeah you're right bro, what a good way to get back at society by rotting in your room (which is exactly what normies want, because less resources you claim, the more available for them to claim for themselves). Fuck you're so high IQ, if only i'd attained this level of enlightenment earlier in my life.

@BlkPillPres you're no longer highest IQ member on the forum, I think OP takes your crown :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek:
I see
Good thing im neet
congratulations for your big achievement.
 
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Based.

The objective of the autistic NEET should be to lose all his sense of shame surrounding his condition. Your parents are probably indignant towards you and your memories of social unpopularity probably plague you, but endeavor to shed them, and become shameless.

Embrace Cynic philosophy and follow the path of Diogenes, who decided to partake in NEETdom rather than suffer the indignities of his job all the way back in ancient Athens. Stay away from the corruption of Stoic philosophy, on the other hand (which is influential in clinical psychology/therapy), and its fatalism regarding social conformity ("just be a slave, bro, it's fine; conforming to social expectations regarding the exploitation of your being is a given which you cannot possibly exercise control over, so whatever you do, don't LDAR!!!!!!!!").

From a Cynic perspective, what you have control over are your basic needs, the pursuit of your special interests, and your innate curiosities. So you should duly oblige these things. What you don't have control over are, indeed, normalgroids, soyciety, and your family. So you should duly spurn these things. This is the essence of wisdom from an autistic perspective.

It's not that you should avoid pain and maximize pleasure (Epicurean degeneracy), but that you should not let other people have the pleasure of inflicting pain on you. Don't subsidize some psychopathic CEO's hedonism through misguided, aspirational wageslavery, in which you strive to become just like him (JFL). Forge your own struggles in your own little corner of the earth, and insofar as they are "pathetic" and "lowly" from a normgroid perspective, they are simply all the more rewarding from yours.

Ted Kaczynski understood exactly this point with regard to the psychological power process, and how if your main goal in life is simply your own sustenance, and if you are living according to the basic demands of nature, then your mind and spirit will be as easily satisfied as your body. Compare this socially non-conformist ideal of life satisfaction to the socially conformist ideal of a decadent normgroid who has fully achieved everything soyciety told him that he should desire to achieve, but is still miserable, because his neighbor yet mogs him in some regards and this makes him even more insecure and aspirational.

It is relevant in this comparison with Ted Kaczynski that he never endeavored towards, or else quickly became disenchanted with, the ideal of Factor 1 Psychopathy and having a high social status in academia or whatever. Instead, he embraced nature, and Factor 2 Psychopathy (for instance, by punishing a group of annoying normies nearby his wooden cabin by tearing a hole into their wall with an axe, ransacking their possessions, and then shitting in their bathtub while they were away).

An autistic male who gives up has 0% chance at success and attaining happiness. An Autistic male who actually gives life a red-hot attempt has a >0% chance at becoming successful, no matter how slim the chance. Conversely, there will be a slim chance that the autist who tries his best at life wont commit suicide, whereas suicide is pretty much guaranteed for an autist who gives up and succumbs to the futility and meaninglessness of life.

But yeah you're right bro, what a good way to get back at society by rotting in your room (which is exactly what normies want, because less resources you claim, the more available for them to claim for themselves). Fuck you're so high IQ, if only i'd attained this level of enlightenment earlier in my life.

@BlkPillPres you're no longer highest IQ member on the forum, I think OP takes your crown
Your presupposition that autistic males should be interested in "success" at all, and that this even leads to happiness, is one which I disagree with.

For the concept of "success" is inherently cucked, and etymologically related to how the term "first" is proceeded by the term "second."

"Just in a second, sweaty, first I have to finish getting fucked by Chad..."

You see, succession implies that you are replacing someone and living in the shadow of their legacy, not unlike a cuckold replacing Chad on top of a foid's vagina and licking the semen that's dripping out from it.

"Success" as such is not something that I desire, and should be considered anathema to the autonomous autist:

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You are mistaken in the idea that an autist who doesn't try is more likely to commit suicide. On the contrary, the type of autist who retains as much of his innocence and naivety as possible is the one who is most likely to survive and thrive and remain mentally healthy.

Within the last week or two on this forum, for example, I read a post by an autist who said that he was totally fine with just masturbating to pornography until he was exposed to the physical-sexual struggle. Meaning that if he had never been exposed to this struggle, he would not be feeling the torment of his perceived deprivation from 3D women, and pornography would still satisfy him.

What is seen cannot be unseen, of course. But the proper way to deal with insecurity regarding the realization of your deprivation(s) is to stop striving, rather than get yourself all worked up and aspirational over them. In the latter case you are just "climbing the rainbow" that you visibly see to a pot of fool's gold. And the "rainbow" in this metaphor (meaning the sense of catharsis you get in pursuing aspirations which you've been traumatized into having) is quite literally even more of an illusion than the gold. The rainbow is nothing but thin air, and yet you spend all your time climbing it, striving to get to the other side of it, for barren metal. What folly!



tbhngl I have only the highest regard for @BlkPillPres and do not consider myself more intelligent than him. Our philosophies in life may differ but this has largely been determined by the differences in our circumstances in life. I think it's much the same with you, too, @IncelKing. And in terms of our writing styles, he is clearly more refined, concise, and comprehensive than me.

But if you're currently an autistic NEET and don't know what to do with yourself, my philosophy can very well be of benefit to you, rather than the one which you two represent. It is a matter of the individual. Also, we overlap much more than we diverge, particularly in relation to our elevation of antisocial behaviors, which should always be kept in mind.
 
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Being machiavellian is better than doing nothing, who knows? It might work, after all. And at least by wageslaving one can engage in something that numbs their brain and keeps them from killing themselves, being NEET is suicidefuel since everyday you are confronted with your own faliure, but when you wageslave your brain goes on autopilot, you don't think much about your situation, and you can afford better copes.
 
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at least by wageslaving one can engage in something that numbs their brain and keeps them from killing themselves
A NEET can do numbing stuff too, like farming in videogames or cleaning. The difference is a NEET gets to choose.
being NEET is suicidefuel since everyday you are confronted with your own faliure
Salarymen think about that everyday too. They are trapped in deadly loop of debt and payments to support a pretend standard of living and keeping up with the joneses. All their energy and time is drained. Who cares about a nice vacation if you are "dead" most of your life?

when you wageslave you can afford better copes.
A better car, computer or wathever won't do shit, trust me. Less is more. Consumerism isn't the answer.

I think the best is earning your own money without breaking your back. Do your own business, one which will make you work the least. Like, don't open a pub and be there working all day everyday. On the contrary, you could open a disco and make money working limited hours/time. You get my drift.

Even if you work at what you like, it becomes that, work. That's the point of an old Spanish saying:

"In the blacksmith's house, a wooden knife."

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Another retarded deceitful post by OP. He suggests letting the NT's, chads and psychopaths win and take all the social, sexual and financial rewards that society has to offer, while autistics just rot and accept their inferior position in society without even getting revenge.
 
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Another retarded deceitful post by OP. He suggests letting the NT's, chads and psychopaths win and take all the social, sexual and financial rewards that society has to offer, while autistics just rot and accept their inferior position in society without even getting revenge.
 
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