My version of "ascension", I call it "descension", since I hated the term "ascension" for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of "success" after an incel life to be in opposition of that.
Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW version of "ascension", while "ascenders" focus on looks, "descenders" focus on money. The goal of "ascension" is to become more "normie like", get women to like you, date, have sex, maybe get married and have children. The goal of "descension" is to build wealth, try and create sustainable passive income streams, and escortcel, never get married or have children.
I've always seen the obvious problems with ascension which is why everytime I see an incel speak about trying to do that I can't help but think they're stupid.
Ok you finally get a GF, she's likely going to be beneath your league, and there's still nothing stopping her from cheating on you. Like I remember seeing a poster online tell me (it wasn't on this forum)
"Getting a GF is the easy part, now you have to do a bunch of shit to keep her excited and entertained so she doesn't leave you, now you've reached the hard part"
Ironically the further you progress into a relationship, the harder it gets, not easier, you have more to lose, more shit you have to do, more men in her life to be compared against, etc. Just more problems in general.
For example in dating you only really have your dignity to lose if she wants to leave you (well there's also the money you invested into the relationship, and sex), if you are married you have half of your wealth to lose after a divorce, if you have children you can basically lose your children and still have to pay child support. Ascension is an endless game of continuous and painstaking effort just to enjoy mediocre happiness, why bother.
A lot of incels on this site seem very naive, they speak as if the hard part is getting the girl to date you. Quite obviously your problems have only begun at that point, any shortcomings that you were able to hide to get her to date you, will become ever more apparent as the relationship progresses, if she doesn't leave you in the first month then maybe you are "home free".
You see now you have to put in effort every single day, just to keep her around, all the stress and anxiety you felt, it isn't really gone, because first the problem was getting her to fuck you, now your problem is to keep her fucking you, and to keep her from fucking anyone else, your worries don't end when you get a woman, they only just begun. I've been thinking about this shit for years, which is why I've never really bothered with trying to ascend once I learned about the black pill and truly accepted it.
Its an illusion, if you have to TRY to be attractive, then you aren't attractive, so even if you get a female, you will have to KEEP TRYING with that same effort (or even more). Get a surgery to up your looks, good, female SMV is rising each year, and with shit like tinder, what difference does that make, at most any guy on this site ups his looks he'll be a 6, a woman can open tinder and find 50+ 6's willing to fuck in her area. ITS OVER.
I say focus on the elements in life that you can control, this is why "descension" to me is the most logical choice, your money can't cheat on you or leave you, your businesses can't cheat on you or leave you, an escort can't cheat on you or leave you (she isn't yours, you are just renting her body). You don't have to keep stressing everyday about the shit you would have to if you were trying to "ascend".
Ironically a lot of the "ascenders" in their 20's are going to be right back in this forum as incels when they get divorce raped (which is the likely end point of ascension). Out of the frying pan, into the fire. Why bother with that shit.
We haven't even gone into the other problems of "ascension" including your "stunted growth", all the people around you are already good at socializing, hooking up, they have "style", they can hold conversations, etc. You have to teach yourself all of this just to have a chance at getting a GF, and then you have to somehow "learn on the go" to keep up with her so she doesn't feel "weirded out". You're always in a way going to be behind her in the relationship.
Its an uphill battle through and through, that's all ascension is, you know what, I just realized the term fits very well, it is an ascension, and that's the very reason why its an uphill battle, wasted effort really, descend and know that you have the high ground, or end up like dear anakin.
