Marxism-Rodgerism. Opinions?

[Lonelyus]

Nazis rose to power fairly quick

Without them, The jews are free to control the medias

 

[mlcurrycel]

Nazis rose to power fairly quick

I'm not even trying anything new like Mussolini. Armed groups around the world already arrange marriages for their soldiers.

 

[mlcurrycel]

As i said before, Just name it Mark Rodgers and be done with it, Whatever the fuck this religion is but may i state a fact that is true that is of that Cho got more kills than ER so your hailing a fake saint.

Elliot was dumb enough to be stopped by a door lock.

I said on the Marxism Rodgerism FAQ that Marxism-Houellebecqism is a more accurate name.

 

[Lonelyus]

Elliot was dumb enough to be stopped by a door lock.

I said on the Marxism Rodgerism FAQ that Marxism-Houellebecqism is a more accurate name.

Chovinism, Saint cho

 

[mlcurrycel]

Sexual Marxism

Sexual Marxism is a loosely-defined concept used by some incelism-oriented cybercels that usually dwells on the "redistribution of sex" in a timeframe shorter than...

incels.wiki

 

[Lonelyus]

Sexual Marxism

Sexual Marxism is a loosely-defined concept used by some incelism-oriented cybercels that usually dwells on the "redistribution of sex" in a timeframe shorter than...

incels.wiki

Theres no way you can overthrow the goverments there are too many and too many goverment supporters in every country.

 

[based_meme]

@Master @Fat Link Political threads don't belong in a forum for scientific studies supporting the black pill.

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

Marxism-Rodgerism. Opinions?

A very gay make-believe cope.

 

[mlcurrycel]

@Master @Fat Link Political threads don't belong in a forum for scientific studies supporting the black pill.

People kept asking for a definition. @Communcel 's work dates back to r/incels. /r9k/ talked about state assigned GFs since forever. Threads not about academic studies discussing lookism get moved to Must Read all the time.

 

[mlcurrycel]

A very gay make-believe cope.

Do you have a problem with enforced monogamy?

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

@Master @Fat Link Political threads don't belong in a forum for scientific studies supporting the black pill.

+1

I could write a word wall about an imaginary hard-right authoritarian state that assigns wives to men who achieve certain academic and financial targets, regardless of their looks. That doesn’t belong in here either.

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

Do you have a problem with enforced monogamy?

I have a problem with pointless make-believe dolls house fantasy shit. Play the Sims if you want an imaginary society.

 

[mlcurrycel]

I have a problem with pointless make-believe dolls house fantasy shit. Play the Sims if you want an imaginary society.

Imaginary? There's already armed groups around the world arranging marriages for their recruits. It's already happening in a non-blackpilled form.

 

[mlcurrycel]

@Master @Fat Link Political threads don't belong in a forum for scientific studies supporting the black pill.

+1

I could write a word wall about an imaginary hard-right authoritarian state that assigns wives to men who achieve certain academic and financial targets, regardless of their looks. That doesn’t belong in here either.

@Master @Fat Link I'm sorry for tagging you, I just need my side heard.

Must-Read section should be for threads that are okay to necro because they are evergreen and still applicable after a while

None of the following threads are about scientific studies, yet are in the Must Read section:

OK so as promised, here's my roundup of the trip and a step by step guide for any hopecels out there. If you're a fully committed rotter I can respect that but it's probably not the thread for you. This is gonna be a long thread, be warned.

Background: Stayed in Thailand for 22 days. Fucked 10 girls including two 17 year old JB's, none of them hookers. Here's how you can do it too...

How much does this all cost?

I started the holiday with 1,000 GBP ($1400), and was pretty much fully spent up by the end of the trip. This figure includes the cost of accommodation but does not include flights. For the cheapest flights from whereever you live, check out skyscanner.net. For what it's worth, my return flight cost 400 GBP ($550). It's always cheaper if you book a fair few weeks in advance, so do that.

For currency exchange, bring cash to Thailand, and exchange it at the exchange booths there. Do not exchange money at the airport, the rate is shit. In Bangkok there's plenty of exchange shops and you'll only lose like half a percent, which beats withdrawing money at ATM's.

Where should I stay?

For the best chance of slaying non-pro girls, you can't beat Bangkok IMO. You'll be a rarer commodity as a foreigner in Northern towns, but these places are more difficult to function in if you don't speak Thai, and are much more conservative in culture. If you're there a long time and want a quality girlfriend, you could check these places out, but for a short trip, just go to Bangkok.

You want to be staying at a place near a BTS/MRT station (very important), and as close to the centre of town as your budget allows (less important, but it helps). For reference, the absolute 'centre' is the Siam BTS station, so be as near to there as reasonably possible.

I personally stayed at this place: https://www.aiyapurabangkok.com/ . It was close to the BTS, but around 25 minutes from the centre. The cost was 9,800 baht ($310), plus the electric bill at the end came to 2,000 ($64) baht.

Photos of the exact room I stayed at are here:

Anything else?

You're gonna want a SIM card when in Thailand. You can choose between AIS, DTAC, and True (these are phone providers in Thailand). I personally used DTAC, but any will work fine. Make sure you buy a decent data package - you want 5 GB of data for a 2 week trip minimum IMO. It's fairly cheap. Don't worry about call or text credit as everyone uses a messeging app here called LINE, which only uses data. Just walk into one of these stores and they'll sort you out.

For transport, do yourself a favour and buy a 'rabbit card' for the BTS. You'll be travelling a lot to meet various girls, and the card gets you cheaper trips. It drops the cost from an average of 44 baht per trip to 31 - this adds up when you're traveling a lot.

For food, it's entirely up to you. I ate mostly Thai food which is an average of 40 baht ($1.30) a meal on the street. You can get decent food in mall food courts for around 60 baht ($2). If you want to eat at fancy high priced western restaurants than the sky is the limit, but unless you're a richcel don't do that.

In general things are much cheaper outside the malls. Food, clothes, medicines etc.

Enough of this bullshit, get to the girls already!

First girl:

Second girl:

Third girl:

Fourth girl:

Fifth girl:
View: https://imgur.com/a/8eTDp


Sixth girl (17 year old): https://imgur.com/a/F2uSf (the bathroom pic is just to prove that I actually did stay over at her place - check out that 'traditional' Thai toilet and bathroom, lol!)

Seventh Girl: https://imgur.com/a/5Tvfx

Eighth Girl (also 17 years old): https://imgur.com/a/p92QL

Ninth Girl: https://imgur.com/a/sangY and https://imgur.com/a/ddUTj

Tenth Girl: https://imgur.com/a/3UOT6



How you do even meet them? Do I have to cold approach or go clubbing alone like some TRP moron?

No you don't.

I met all the girls online. Tinder was 70% of the lays. Other apps possible are badoo and skout. You can also try thaifriendly.com although I've found tinder is significantly better for getting quick lays.

I don't have much success getting the girls to meet in my room straight away. It happened, but only twice. YMMV if you are more attractive than me (or less attractive). In general I think the average PSL 4 guy is gonna have to meet the girl outside the room, then try and get her back there at some point.

I don't know how to speak to girls online - how do you get them to meet up?

Don't overcomplicate it. Have 4 or 5 messages on tinder, then ask for her LINE ID. Once there, carry on talking a bit about BS stuff (school, work, hobbies etc, the usual shit). Then ask her when she's free, and arrange a meet.

IMPORTANT: If she is hesitant, or says 'maybe' she's free on xxx date, or says 'not sure' or anything else like that, it's OVER, move on. SEA girls are massive timewasters so you have to be harsh when cutting them out here. Any hint of being a timewaster = cut her loose. Don't spend large amounts of time on any one girl, it's pointless. If they like you, they'll meet quickly.

Here's some screenshots of conversations with girls I banged to show you how it's done:

First example:

https://imgur.com/a/ChO4c

Second example:

https://imgur.com/a/L0ScM

Third example (one of the JB's - if you look closely you can see she changed her profile pic to me and her):

https://imgur.com/a/NpMt3


Hopefully you can all see it's not really that complicated. Find out when they're free, arrange a meetup. Easy.

Where to go for first dates?

Pick somewhere reasonably close to your room, but also keep in mind the girls location. If she's on the other side of Bangkok to you, meet in the middle. Don't travel long distances to meet a girl as SEA girls are notorious timewasters - they only actually turn up around 75% of the time in my experience, and 90% of those times they're late. You also want a location reasonably close to your room to make it easier to get the girl back there.

There's no difference in success rate when doing something expensive vs something cheap, so just do something cheap. Stuff that worked for me this trip - getting an ice cream together, going for a walk in the park, going to a cheapish restaurant for food. I did also get laid twice by arranging to meet girls at clubs, but there's no increase in success rate going clubbing vs doing something cheaper.

Don't expect to succeed all the time. It's a lot easier in Thailand, but you're not gonna bang the girl every single time in my experience. YMMV if you're more or less attractive than me, as usual.

So how do you get the girl back to your room?

The usual method is you do whatever you've arranged to do (park, ice cream etc), then you suggest going to watch a movie in your room. Do NOT tell her you're going back there to have sex. If a Thai girl comes back to your room, 90% of the time she's willing to fuck you, I've literally only failed with a Thai girl once when I've got her back to my room.

But itsOVER, the majority of these girls are below average or downright ugly?

That's right buddy boyo, and as an incel you don't have the luxury of choice. Bang, or volcel it is.

On a more serious note, I agree most were not that attractive. That was a function of my general strategy however - I was going for the maximum slays possible, so was focused on numbers, not quality. Getting a 'quality' girl is much easier when you actually live there, as you have the time to do the 3 date thing then bang her. It doesn't take long to get a quality PSL 5+ chick, just a couple of weeks normally, but that's time you don't have when you're only there a few weeks. If you want better looking girls, I suggest you either:

1) Be better looking than me.
2) Start considering ways you can live permanently in SEA. I got MUCH better girls when I lived there.
3) Go to Manila where I hear it's even easier.
4) Escortcel.

With that said, I think girl number 3 was decent, girl 6 was OK, and girls 4, 8 and 9 were fuckable enough. Girls 1, 2 and 7 were definitely on the dodgy side, especially 7, although I was kinda reverse catfished there and it was a case of bang or go home and wank. Girls 6 and 8 were haloed a bit by being 17 year old JB's. The rest were just below average but not downright awful.

Keep in mind even Chad doesn't fuck prime Stacy's all the time - that's why so many of you whine on here that you can't get your looksmatch. Chad has to fuck plenty of sub-prime roast beef too.

I've still got more questions?

Feel free to post in the thread and I'll answer. Or send me a PM.

Made this thread to respond to a specific post that I thinks need to be addressed because it reflects the general mindset of a lot of the incels on this site (incels in general actually). Its a false mindset, you guys clearly haven't "studied" and interacted with normies enough to see whats really going on.

Thread here - https://incels.is/threads/my-whole-fucking-life-is-done.31324/#post-534850



Your standards are too high, and I don't mean for choosing women, I mean for what you expect from life, you have to adapt, we weren't born in the 50's, we were born in the era of whores (in my 20's), I've never felt love, only lust, never really wanted to get married all that much, only thought about it because parents try to poke that shit into their childrens heads over the years. I've started to realize that I'm not suffering as much as many of the incels on this site because I had the best "default mindset" for someone who would grow to be incel.

I only want sex, I don't want to feel desired, or admired, etc, I abandoned my ego years ago, I just want to enjoy the physical feeling that comes when you ejaculate into a womans body, and for that there's escorts, if I had your financial means I likely would have never even found this site because I'd be too busy, watching anime, playing games and fucking whores happily to care. Glad I found the site though.

Change your standards, not for women, but for life, latching onto normie standards when you clearly aren't one is illogical, the moment you focus on what you can enjoy in this life rather than what you can't enjoy you'll stop wasting time and feel a lot better. Also you are only getting to see the surface level of all the "happy family" BS that your friends ALLOW YOU TO SEE, most everything normies do is all about appearances, you see the smiling faces in images of vacations and family trips, you don't see the arguments your friend has with his wife about how little sex they have these days, that he suspects she's cheating, that he's worried about his son possibly being gay, that he thinks his daughter is no longer a virgin, the arguments that comes with the financial stress of having a family (mortgage, vehicles, tuition, school supplies, etc). You don't see all that shit, because they don't want you to, they only let you see "the good shit".

Most of the happiness normies get from the things you THINK you are missing out on IS SHORT LIVED, that's the great irony, we didn't really lose out on anything (inb4 this is cope), the only parts we legit missed out on were the PHYSICAL PARTS, the parts they enjoyed in their youth, most of which was an illusion anyways that they could only enjoy in blissful ignorance. Love isn't even a real thing, its just a chemical reaction in the brain, they weren't "teens in love", they were "teens in lust", but we only get to see those relationships from the outside looking in, so it looks so "magical" and "grand", again you didn't hear about all the bad shit, you never do, because normies don't like airing out their dirty laundry for others to see.

I have a friend that was going to be a doctor, complete normie coper, had "inspirational quotes" and shit on his book covers, studied hard, way smarter than me, would have definitely became a doctor, got all the necessary qualifications to pursue his university degree. The girl he was with for years cheated on him and he rebounded quick, he wasn't careful and a few months after he got his rebound pregnant when he was trying to get into university, guess who had to drop out and become a cuck, that's right him, in a lot of his images all I can see now is depression, he tries to hide it but he can't hide it well, met him in person at a store once too, he's now TRAPPED IN HIS OWN LIFE. Is sex enjoyable yes, and that's the only part of relationships that were really missing out on (unless you are some kind of idiot egoist that just wants to have their ego stroked, if so fuck off, this post is not for you, you will never be satisfied). Guess what, how much time for sex do you think people have when they have a child to worry about....... are you getting the point yet, the path that all normies take IRONICALLY LEADS THEM TO BE JUST AS UNHAPPY AS WE ARE.

I don't understand how you guys are so blind, WE ARE LIVING THE INVERSE LIVES OF NORIMES (Can't you see it?)

Normies start off having amazing lives, thrilling "emotions", great sex lives, having fun, but part of being a normie is "settling down", they are all followers because part of normie life is "fitting in", so they all mostly follow that road. As they reach the "settling down" phase their lives slowly become like ours, especially more so for the men, their sex lives dry up, they stop feeling less for the person they "love" and get hit with the black pill that even feelings fade over time because the human brain is wired to grow accustomed too and "bored" of similar stimuli.

Can you fap to the same porn video, every single day for for a month and REALLY get off to it, no, by the second week it won't be as enjoyable, now imagine the reality of this, but applied to a person OVER YEARS. That's the first black pill normies are forced to accept in their later years, you not only get bored of a person over time, but you get bored of "loving them" and eventually want someone else. Your brain is wired to do this, its part of our biological imperatives, monogamy is a forced thing, it isn't even normal for most other animals.

We however are somewhat cursed with how our lives began, but IT IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE. We got black pilled early on all the shit that normies will end up learning ONLY WHEN ITS TOO LATE, we don't have to end up "trapped in our own lives". Don't get married, dont have children, just spend your years having sex with random beautiful women and enjoying your hobbies (whether you're paying for it (escorts), or looks/wealth maxxing to coerce women into fucking you). We've only failed at life here if we fail to take advantage of the benefits that come with having been incel, and that benefit is KNOWLEDGE.

Why do you guys think a mid life crisis is a "normal" and culturally known thing for men?, its because many men only start considering the shit we already thought of years ago, in their old age, when its too late to make changes because you have commitments to fulfill. So they perform copes like "buying a nice car" or "dressing differently", or the most outright admission of what I talked about above in relation to sex - THEY HAVE AN AFFAIR. They realize too late in life that one woman isn't enough.

I could never admire normies, not at this point, I already know how most of my other friends lives are going to end up, most of them are gonna be beta providers for some used up whore, have a few kids that will be hard to raise in this shitty era (kids might not even be theirs), probably get cheated on years into the marriage and maybe never find out because "tee hee, its for the best, I don't want to hurt you, I love you". Normiedom is the biggest long con, we ironically got screwed out of making a shitty deal, but again, we can only make this into a positive with effort and applying the black pill mindset practically. If you just LDAR, be a neet, don't work and build your wealth, then you're just going to remain a poor sex starved suidical poor sap, but if you do the opposite you'll actually look back on the days laughing at when you envied normies.

This isn't cope, this is reality, and I know I can't be the only person who has come to this realization, I have to work and talk to normies everyday so I have to learn to "blend in" and talk to them, every single damn relationship is terrible and the only glue that holds it all together IS SEX. Their lives are very "fragile". I know a guy right now (normie) who a month before was telling me about how great his GF is and how perfect she is and that they're getting married, last week he cheated on her with some random how who he ADMITS ISN'T AS ATTRACTIVE lol. He still plans on marrying her, do you see how much of a joke this BS fake illusion of the magical lives you think they're living is, stop fooling yourself, I could literally just message this girl and destroy his entire "construct" of "normie life" and let he know he cheated and who he did it with. But I won't because I don't care enough about his life to do it, I'm focusing on building my wealth, and fighting some normie right now isn't to my benefit, I just laugh and observe at these peoples lives, they project this air of happiness, especially online, but they are miserable, they are all LITERALLY COPING WITH THE JAIL CELL THAT IS THEIR ADULT LIFE (especially the ones with children, when you have kids ITS OVER).

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I HAVE NO FUCKING WORDS

I LITERALLY

AM DISGUSTED

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT

=====================================

I JUST SET UP AN ACCOUNT FOR TINDER AND USED THIS PIC

i got 10+ LIKES IN THE BAR

LITERALLY AFTER FINISHING THE BIO

ALMOST EVERY SWIPE IS A MATCH

this destroys my expriment with lakowksi

with bateman

with everybody

i literally want to fo ER right nowe

this is insane

will post pics as soon as i can

EDIT: HERE THEY ARE

He is gonna be father to a 3rd child from yet another foid.
Truly a success story and a life and hope fuel for incels.

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a tinder slut he hooked up with
now knocked up, another delusional self hating gook who thinks itsover gonna be a virtuous european father...only to get her ass ditched after she has the baby
serves these foids right.... @chudur-budur , another white worshipping deathnic slut about to bite the dust...kek



he had knocked up another foid a while back, his 17yo ex girl friend.
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He has had 1st child from this foid:
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His kid should be like 3yo now


He is currently dating this foid though, the others are side tinder sidechicks
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I honestly can't bring myself to hate on dude cos he decided to JBWmaxxed. I woulda done the same if I was white myself.
A real hopefuel for incels. A 23 yo KHHV unemployed incel who is on neetbux decides to JBWmaxx and moves to SEA and slays.
Incels should just focus on saving some money and move to SEA.

If a 5'6'' manlet with 11yo girl frame can do it, I believe there's hope for whitecels. you gotta stay positive.

Even though @itsOVER is banned from this forum, his legacy lives on as he keeps feeding us wise words on Discord.
First, you have to know that he is a 5'7 white manlet NEET who was unable to get laid in his 23 years of living in the UK.

Just as he was getting ready to rope, he decided to try his luck in Thailand first.
Everything changed quickly, and now he has 1 child, and 2 other foids are pregnant by him.
His routine is simple: Date a young Thai foid, impregnate her, stay with her for 6 months, then leave. Why 6 months you ask?

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How does he get money to afford living in Thailand as a NEET? He uses the generous studyloan-bux from the British government. He has no plans to ever pay it back, because
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itsOVER rightfully believes everything except for sex and reproduction is cope.
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You have an ugly face, and cope by begging the Almighty Lord for a foid who will love you despite of it?
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You're thinking of running social circle game?
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You want to compensate with a high salary?
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Spending a lot of time crafting that perfect Tinder bio, buddy boyo?
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However, even itsOVER has his weakness, and his secret cope comes from the cocoa tree.
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In conclusion, the whitecels here should know that they have many options, that they have yet to excercise.
There are tons of foids in SEA that want to have sex with you, merely for being white.
Stop coping, and start taking action.

One of the most obvious examples of this, is the "gender equality paradox"

https://www.thejournal.ie/gender-equality-countries-stem-girls-3848156-Feb2018/



One would think that the higher the standard of gender equality in a country, the more likely women are to enter into work fields that they were once "forced away from" by the dreaded patriarchy via the "glass ceiling". However that would be one who is illogical and not honest with themselves about biological realities.

The reason why the paradox seems like a paradox (when it isn't) to individuals of "the left", is because their logic is inherently flawed, it isn't a paradox. Of course what can I expect from a group that can't accept the most basic of biological reality's - IF YOU ARE BORN WITH XY CHROMOSOMES AND A PENIS, YOU ARE A MAN, NO SURGERY OR MAKE OVER CAN CHANGE THAT FACT, but I digress, back to the matter at hand.

Here are the reasons why:
1. Women don't want to work - They don't like physical exertion, unless it relates to fucking an attractive male. This is why they work more part time hours than men statistically, and stay away from STEM field jobs that require long and dedicated hourly shifts of work, often involving overtime. They are not only the physically weaker sex, but they are the mentally weaker sex, in both matters of academia and dealing with stress, male suicide rates are only higher because society treats men like utter garbage in comparison to women.

Every guy I know has had first hand experience in a situation where the women around them were panicking and it was up to them to calm them down and solve the problem. Women don't enjoy the stress of the work world, the deadlines, the office politics, etc becomes all too much for them unless they are the ones instigating the drama, then they like it, but when it comes to the actual work part, tough luck inspiring enthusiasm

This is why they prefer jobs will little to no physical effort or mental effort, it allows for free time, and for them to "play during work" (gossiping, etc)

2. Women don't have to work to get their "base needs" satisfied - Men will always be more drawn to work, because romantic relationships between men and women function under a model of prostitution, all men know we need to have access to resources to gain access to sex. Women don't need that, any 5/10 woman can land a 6/10 or 7/10 boyfriend and/or husband due to the changes that feminism has made in society, those men are going to have well paying jobs, especially because statistically the more attractive a man is, the more likely he has a high paying job (looks helps a lot in various facets of life).

So feminism has ironically made it easier for women to be "house wives", of course they won't jump into that role before they get some prime time riding the cock carousel, but nonetheless, it is their final destination. That's the greatest irony of feminism, because of bias they ignore the inherent nature of women, and because they ingore that, they can't accurately predict the outcomes of collectively giving women rights and privileges.

How stupid do you have to be, to think that you will give women a "sexual revolution" and it will give them a reason to work harder, prioritize career pursuits over the pursuit of Chads cock, and to champion breaking the glass ceiling when they can sit at home comfy doing barely nothing all day while their husband slaves away.

Every base need from food, shelter, security, and yes sex, can be easily attained from a man by every woman just for simply existing, feminism has just made that easier, so why would you expect them to not take advantage of that.

3. Their pursuit of Chad - Do I even need to go into detail on this, the advent of Tinder, and the effect that it had on the dating world and male SMV is obvious enough.

Feminism = feeding into women's nature and expecting them to go against it

Women don't really want to do "hard work", they never really wanted to, the "freedom" that their biological imperatives were driving them to attain, was merely MORE FREE TIME to fuck attractive males and bear their children, and the delusion of feminists not to acknowledge this, is why no matter what policies they implement, women's choices remain the same as when the "patriarchy" was "forcing them" to make those choices.

By giving women more rights, more freedom, and more privileges, all you've done is giving them more free time, and more options to choose from, to carry out their biological imperatives. The easier you make it for women to chase chad, the more time they'll spend chasing chad, not working, not building a career, their main focus will always be fucking chad. It always has been and always will be.

Feminism is the real paradox. The entire purpose of feminism is to give women the freedom TO DO WHAT THEY WANT, well earth to feminists, WHAT WOMEN WANT TO DO, IS FUCK CHAD AND ENJOY THEIR FREE TIME "HAVING FUN".

Its the same reason why statistically men work more overtime and women work more part time hours, its not because the patriarchy is forcing women not to work more hours, ITS BECAUSE WOMEN DON'T REALLY WANT TO WORK PERIOD, THEY PREFER LEISURE TIME.

Its kinda funny, stuff like this likely frustrates a lot of feminists and sends them in a rage, confused by this paradox, some might even call these women "ungrateful" - "How dare they not go out into STEM fields and slave away while their ovaries rot and their biological clock ticks"

Dear Mr's/Mr Feminist, would you prefer they end up like this bitch - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ork-out/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.36215aa76915

Some women may fall for the feminist agenda due to indoctrination, but most are still driven primarily by their biological imperatives. Between the two sexes, women are more like animals than men are, its like they aren't really conscious of their own existence, so easily manipulated by agendas and also still so easily manipulated by their own programming, they lack true introspective thought, which is why their conversations are never about such things.

The ideal society would be driven primarily by logic. I think the reason society is so immoral is ironically because we are trying to be moral and not logical.

The basis of all laws that are good for a society, is logic.

Take murder for example, the law should not be "you should not kill because its bad/evil", it should be - "you should not kill because you also do not want to be killed". We should hate murder as a society because if we allow other people to kill others haphazardly, then we might be next, sounds fucked up but if society ran on cold logic like that, then everything would be more peaceful.

Basing laws on morality is ironically why society is flawed, its because MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE. Even criminal organizations like the Yakuza or the Italian Mob, etc all have "codes of honour", that are things that even the average citizen would agree with. They have their own set of morals, for example the Mob usually doesn't allow killing women and children, its an emotional and subjective "rule", they have let their emotions create an illogical ruleset, but ironically they can kill men, steal from families, sell drugs, etc.

This is the problem with morals, everybody thinks their moral code is "good enough". If we all had to operate on logic, there is no such thing as "my logic" or "your logic", a choice either is logical or it isn't, logic is based on whats objective, not on how something makes one feel. We need a logical society not a moral one, "true morals" are inherent to logic, because logic usually yields the greatest collective rule set

Imagine how much the rates of rape and human trafficking would go down of prostitution was decriminalized, think about it, its completely illogical that paying for sex is illegal, there's no logical reason why it should be, yet despite all the income it would generate for a country if taxable, despite all the people it would alleviate from suffering, society keeps it illegal due to moral reasoning.

You see that slut on instagram, a lot of you moralfags on this site would say that she is being immoral, but you would be wrong. She doesn't kill, she doesn't steal, she doesn't <insert "bad" thing here>. That's her morals, as far as she's concerned "the times have changed" and she can be a slut and "it isn't hurting anyone". She is completely moral FOR THE ERA SHE EXISTS IN.

Again MORALS ARE SUBJECTIVE, they change from person to person, country to country, era to era. Morals are pointless, we need to be driven by logic not morals, morals can be altered and therefore THEY CAN BE CORRUPTED.

You can't corrupt logic, you can't corrupt objectivity. It always is what its going to be, it will never change, any changes to a law based on logic, will also be logical, but changes to a "moral code" can easily become corrupted.

In fact modern society is the greatest example of this, Christians influenced laws using their moral code, that's why gay marriage was illegal, today morals have been changed due to EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS. People against gay marriage are seen as "bigots", "evil", etc. Now today gay marriage is legal.

ANY LAW WITH A FOUNDATION BASED ON EMOTION, IS "STRUCTURALLY WEAK" AND CAN BE ALTERED USING EMOTIONS.

MORALS CORRUPT A SOCIETY, THEY DON'T HELP IT

1. Nobody is entitled to anything

Entitlements are a figment of imagination, they exist only in the minds of humans, and function only within societies where they are allowed to function, and are facilitated (usually through tax collection to fund said "entitlement programmes")

Pension, welfare, clean water, education, nobody is really entitled to any of it if were being objective and honest.

2. Incels don't feel entitled to sex, they simply WANT sex

I keep seeing the "entitlement" argument repeated everywhere and it is literally just a strawman argument, propping up a stance so absurd that you can't help but be right being against it, heck even I agree with being against it, because its egotistical and illogical for anyone to think they literally DESERVE anything, a normies reasoning for being against it would likely be more emotionally based though, more like - "women are people too, this is so misogynistic, its so hurtful, etc, etc".

Are there a few incels actually going around saying and believing that they "deserve" sex and are entitled to it, yes, but those men are idiots, they are outliers, any logical person knows full well nobody "deserves" anything. Most incels adhere to the "black pill philosophy", and a key "tenant" of that is basing ones life choices and interpretation of observations, on cold hard logic, so I doubt most incels (or even 5% of incels) actually believe they DESERVE sex

Incels simply just want, just like every other human on this planet that wants, to try and paint incels as this collective of egotistical males, that all think they are entitled to sex (women's bodies) is a falsehood that is often peddled by the media and society at large.

You see because its much easier to simply create a false narrative that can be argued against, than to argue against the actual thing. Paint incels as malicious and egotistical instead of frustrated and suicidal, and its much easier to demonize incels and garner support against them.

3. Disenfranchised Males = Self Destructive Males

There's this african proverb that I think perfectly describes whats taking place between modern society and average/below average males.

"If the young are not initiated in the tribe, they will burn down the village just to feel its warmth."

Modern society is extremely sexualized, there is no escape from sex as a man in these times, which is why it feels like you're being trolled whenever people say the all too cliche phrase "sex isn't the most important thing in life", nice strawman argument, now simply wanting sex because its being shoved down your throat at every waking moment, is equal to thinking its the most important thing in the world. Statements like that are nothing but dismissive shaming and silencing tactics.

Sex is in the news papers, magazines, tv, movies, video games, its in advertisements, bill boards, the internet, etc. People need to try and understand how "dystopian" of a reality this would all seem to a man who is unable to acquire sex due to unrealistic and unfair female standards that only exist due to various societal changes that resulted from feminism. Its like a sick joke were forced to live through. Everyone is telling us to just "get over it" while ironically enjoying sex lives themselves and boasting/talking about it at every waking moment.

Imagine if you woke up and basically everyone on the planet had an expensive sports car, all you see are people around you driving it, everyone with a sports car gets treated differently than those who don't, they have higher social status, etc. For some reason you can't get one no matter how much you adhere to the advice suggested by sports car owners. Everytime you complain about the biased system that keeps you from getting one, someone tells you - "there are more important things in life than sports cars", they then later proceed to talk with their friends about all the awesome sports cars they drove, post about the current sports car they have leased, and make instagram and other media posts about how great their sports car driving life is and how great they are at driving sports cars.

Quite obviously these people are being disingenuous, they know your complaints are legitimate, they don't actually follow their own words and they glorify sports cars and ownership of it ad nauseum, really they just want people without sports cars to STFU and deal with it, live without having a sports car and stop ruining the experience for the rest of them. Its really fucked up but that is societys mindset towards men who can't get sex, they know that argument is BS, they know they are lying and sex is of the utmost importance to every human (its not the most important thing, but its really really up there on the list, some might argue 2nd or 3rd place). They only repeat this BS because its really just about shaming and silencing men for daring to make society even feel a tad bit guilty or responsible for our current state of being disenfranchised. They really just expect incels to "STFU and take one for the team".

Sex is clearly a vital part of every humans existence, a man doesn't even "become a man" in a sense within society until he has sex, in essence a lot of men have not undergone their "right of passage" to become part of the "tribe" that is modern human civilization.

This is why all of these mass shootings are taking place, its started to branch off into other things like the "Thot Audit", more and more things like this are going to keep happening until society finally acknowledges this problem and begins to make changes.

So as it stands we now have a significant and growing pool of sexually starved men, who due to this are angry, violent, irritable and suicidal, seriously how does society expect this to play out, the most dangerous animal is the one backed into a corner with nothing to lose, when someone doesn't care if they die, worse yet they want to die just so their sad existence can end, there is no reasoning with that person, they are on a "war path", you either kill them, give that person what they want, or you get out of their way as they proceed to claim what they want.

Society expects us not to burn the village down when it won't initiate us into the tribe, that's whats truly outrageous, not the violence of disenfranchised men, but the fact that society actually expects us to just remain docile and accept this reality that has been forced upon us.

4. Women aren't entitled to safety

People don't seem to understand the danger of looking the collective male populace in they eyes, and telling them they aren't entitled to something that not too long ago they would just taking by force as a norm.

Men reformed themselves and created societies with laws and codes of conduct because it benefited the collective, especially the collective male populace, this was the function of "patriarchal societies". To manage a safe and fair distribution of resources, and that includes sexual and reproductive resources.

Virginity was a prerequisite for a woman to be "marriage material" because men wanted to be sure that when they married a woman she would be less likely to cheat, as she'd be more likely to be satisfied sexually with her partner due to lack of "sexual experience". It also ensured that your investment would be worth it as you aren't footing the bill for "used goods", that may sound cruel but men have to basically invest a lot into a woman's very being, even more so today, get divorced once and half of your wealth goes to another person, and these days the women aren't even virgins, marriage is truly a raw deal in this modern era.

Marriage as an institution existed for various reasons, it was used to create familial ties, for political reasons, etc, but most importantly to give a sense of assurance to men that the children their wives gave birth do were indeed theirs (hence virginity being the key defining trait of "marriage material"), and they could pass down their name and wealth to their children.

For the same reason Female Promiscuity was shamed and led to social ostracization. Womens hypergamy had to be kept in check otherwise the relationship dynamics between men and women would fall apart and so would the "family unit" which is basically the "building block" of society.

Crimes like Rape were especially frowned upon because it made a woman unfit for marriage and ruined her entire life, it also went against the civility agreement between men who as a collective all wanted their respective women in their lives to be safe and remain "their women" and not be "tarnished" by another man.

I hope people get the point here, the purpose of these laws and societal norms were to ensure a code of conduct amongst men, so that we would as a collective agree to allow each other to pursue and court women in a safe and organized manner, unimpeded by other men in an "unfair" manner, we all had a fair chance. There was a "social contract" at play here.

In these modern times the social contract is no longer functioning, expecting men not to regress and go back to the days of rape and violence when the contract is no longer being enforced and/or adhered to, is what is truly outrageous, and not the acts themselves. Men aren't entitled to sex?, true I agree, but women aren't entitled to safety either, they never were entitled to it and they never will be, it was a "provision" offered by men to women for co-operating with men to facilitate the social contract. The safety resided within the rule set of the social contract, which is no longer at play here, so a significant and increasing number of males are seeing no reason to function as "civil" men, there's no logical reason too, why be civil when you essentially are not even part of civilization, civility its no longer to our benefit. Women's actions have thrown the entire system out of order, and the violent responses of men today are retaliatory. Society is basically trying to make average/below average males into somewhat of a "slave class" that offers their labor and utility, contributes to society, all while being barred from enjoying a basic pleasure that all the female citizens get to enjoy despite contributing less and having to risk their lives less.

Ask yourself who are really the crazy ones, the men who go out committing acts of violence or "opt out" of society, or the society that expected these men not to do this, despite significantly ruining the quality of life for the collective male populace, and having the gall to ask them to keep up their end of the social contract and be "good little boys and contribute to society as upstanding citizens" . Are you fucking serious, no wonder men are opting out of society, no wonder men are going out on murder rampages.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2017/03/09/american-men-are-giving-up-on-jobs/

There's no real motivation to bother trying, to be a "hard worker", to be "civilized", when your reward at the end of the day is to get married to used goods who is likely only settling for you because she's aged past her prime and has a ton of baggage, to top it off with no fault divorce laws she can easily just leave with half of your wealth, and modern society actually celebrates and endorses female promiscuity and cheating on men, so that great investment you made isn't even guaranteed to be solely yours to enjoy JFL. Men have literally no motivation to be "good people", anyone who thinks people should be "good" for the sake of "being good" is an illogical idiot that doesn't get how reality actually works.

In the bible there's heaven and hell, in human laws there are cash rewards for helping law enforcement with certain tasks, and there are fines and jail time for committing crimes or breaking minor laws.

GOOD AND EVIL CAN ONLY BE TRULY (OBJECTIVELY) DEFINED BY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE REWARDS AND PUNISHMENTS ASSOCIATED RESPECTIVELY, that is how we truly distinguish a good act from a bad one, if we rely on subjective opinion based criteria then anyone and everyone is both right and wrong, good and bad, based on their own personal reasonings and whims. If the bible said that no matter what you do everyone goes to heaven, but "please still don't sin" nobody would give a fuck about the rules, most every Christian would be sinning without any restraint or repentance, rules mean nothing without a reward and punishment system in place.

To address another cliche statement - "where have all the good men gone", I ask "by what objective criteria are you ascribing the label "good" ". Reinstate a sufficient "rewards system" for males and you'll see all those men come running back.

I'll never understand the men (especially incels) who endlessly chase after these illusory concepts like "love", "happiness" and "female validation".

LOVE:
Love doesn't exist, not in the "cultural sense", where its this deep meaningful thing, its just a series of chemical reactions used to increase the likeliness of pair bonding and reproduction, its our brains using us like puppets to carry out a desired function. You didn't miss out on anything, it would be like a person who never had a lucid dream saying they missed out on an "out of body experience", it isn't really that, nobody actually "astrally projects" themselves, its all in your head, a trick the brain plays on us. I never get the people who feel regret for not experiencing things that we know aren't real..

There is no such thing as "love", its all lust, and the feeling of "love" is nothing but our brains giving us an excuse to take pride in lust, because when someone feels "justified" in something they will do it more fervently, its our brain playing its typical puppet tricks, in an alternate reality our brains will inflict pain on our bodies to get us to reproduce, because we evolved differently, so instead of taking the "coercion and deception" approach our brains take the "force and blackmail" approach.

Humans love doing things that are pleasurable, but more than that we love stroking our ego while doing said things, because it makes it both mentally and physically enjoyable, we need these "mental passes" to give us the "go ahead", the "justification" to pursue things that are not really "morally good", we ascribe morals to the act to make it mentally easier for us to do.

I talk about this in detail in another thread - https://incels.is/threads/normies-l...ired-to-realize-their-core-motivations.97039/

Where I make the distinction between "core motivations" (what were actually trying to do) and "surface motivations" (the "veils" that cover "core motivations" that make us feel justified in committing said act).



Love is just a "surface motivation" for the "core motivation" of physical pleasure (lust, orgasms, etc).

HAPPINESS:
Happiness is subjective, it is rarely if ever truly attained because its standard is determined by the beliefs and mindset of the person chasing after it, it is dictated by two variables (Personal Standards and/or Ignorance of Standards). There are people out there in life whose lives are complete shit in comparison to ours in terms of standards of living, but they are "happier" than us, and they want to keep living while we feel suicidal, and that's because of:

1. Personal Standards - Their standards for existence are low, they don't want for much, could be because they'd suffered so much in life before that the meager pleasures they have now are enough in comparison to the past, could be because they have low self esteem and consider what they currently have "enough for someone like me", at the end of the day, they are "happy" based on the standards of living they have for their own life.

2. Ignorance of Standards - They are unaware of how much better their standards of living could be (e.g. someone born in some remote/tribal village/community with barely any technology). For example someone born in an amish community and is never exposed to any technology or modern media, or someone born in a monastery in some mountain in china and they have never left that community. They likely feel more satisfied and fulfilled with life than we ever will, but that's simply because they don't know what they are missing out on. If a 10/10 stacy walked up into said monastery in a bikini and an Ipad with a movie playing on it, that same guy who had "discovered nirvana" (a state of perfect happiness and enlightenment) would lose his shit and that would throw his peace out the window, he'll now realize many things he wanted deep down that he wasn't even truly aware of, entertainment, to have his lust satiated rather than repressed and controlled, etc.

The Amish are a better example of this, they have this rite of passage called Rumspringa,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa



A lot of amish youths after going through this period never return to their communities because they now know the life they are missing out on, the phrase "ignorance is bliss" means "ignorance is happiness", its part of happiness, not knowing what you're missing out on allows you to set lower standards for happiness, and the mere introduction of those things into your consciousness destroys any peace of mind you had, your happiness is now sub par because you know your life could be more enjoyable now.

You can cope and deny all you want at that point, but you'll always know deep down its true.

Happiness is based on the limitations one places on themselves (ego, goals, etc) and the limitations that life placed on them (birth place, physical/mental disabilities, etc)

That's why I don't aspire to be "happy", I aspire to be "physically satisfied" and "stress free", that criteria is much more objective than "being happy", because talk to the average person who says they are "happy" and they live stressful and problematic lives, and that's because their personal standards for themselves revolves around "facing challenges", so they never stop chasing after more stresses in life, and they are always stuck wondering why they never feel "truly satisfied". Its because they are playing the game wrong, life isn't an endless series of achievements to be met, and that's the mindset (((they))) have indoctrinated onto the masses to keep us "happy and busy worker drones" while they actually enjoy what a fulfilling life is aboue (peace and prosperity).

FEMALE VALIDATION:
A lot of incels hold on to multiple concepts that contradict eachother.

They believe things about women related to evolution psychology that devalue their existence (they are genetically hardwired to be hypergamous, inherently selfish, etc), while at the same time they value their validation and what they think of them, those are two contradictory concepts, if women are as bad as the black pill tells us, and we truly believe it, then there is no reason to value anything they think.

I've been saying this for a while, nobody really wants female validation, we've just been indoctrinated over years as children and basically socialized to value and chase after it, that's because female validation is the prerequisite to what we really want, sex. Well its the prerequisite to attaining sex the "usual way" (courtship), you can just pay for it.

Its completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of you. They are basically like an AI running lines of code, would you care if an AI, something that has no true concept of reality and merely does what its "code" dictates, cares about you? (I doubt it).

Of what value is its evaluation of you, when it has no true sense of self. How can you devalue women as an existence, while at the same time claiming that their evaluation of you is something that matters (do you see the obvious contradiction yet?).

That would be like me saying I have a broken mirror, yet I trust its ability to give me an accurate reflection. One should only value the evaluation given by someone relative to how much they value the logical integrity of said person, in other words, if you truly believe everything the black pill says, then by valuing female validation, aren't you putting stake in the competency of a group of individuals, you yourself deem as incompetent?

Female validation is just the usual prerequisite to attaining sex, it is not the goal it is the prerequisite to achieving the goal, and only a foolish egoist chases after validation, as black pillers were supposed to be introspective, the "deep thinkers", to cling and chase after female validation is illogical, especially for an incel, you already know what it is you really want, sex, so chase after that, and when you simply see things in such a manner a whole slew of options open up to you, things you did not even consider because your ego was blinding you from it.

The website was taken down but it's still up on the wayback machine. Unfortunately the images didn't get saved but a lot of his ranting did.

This is just to show what inceldom can do to someone. He obviously thought he had ascended with his student and it sounds like he thought he could have ascended if society didn't fuck things up. He was btiter about it all.

The oldcel was a physics teacher and got fired from his job. I'm not sure if he fucked the girl or not but they were sending messages and so on. Anyway, he eventually lost his career. The girl eventually went to college and started a new college life. Sure enough her pussy lips were wrapped around Chads 8 inch dick relatively quickly. The oldcel was in TURMOIL over this and decided to end his life. On his website he had ripped up all his degrees and accolades

The title of his website was "The pessimist was right all along"

I wish his website wasn't taken down. On it he had some "Trigger" links and they were all pictures of the girl and Chad and some of the official letters he got from the school firing him.

Here are some quotes from the website. He reached the ER stage but didn't go ER.

The pessimist was right all along.


I hate this world.
I wish I'd never been born.


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Trigger 1 - June 11, 2012
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Someone gets to live happily-ever-after in a fairytale dream.
I get to drown in an ocean of Despair.
The pessimist was right all along.



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Trigger 2 - December 3, 2012
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High school, college, all the work I've done.
It was all for nothing.
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I DID IT ALL FOR NOTHING.



Trigger 3 - December 16, 2012
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I cannot be with the one I love, I cannot do the work I love.
There is no hope, the dream is lost.
I'm trapped in this Hideous world,
where the twin demons of Loneliness and Despair torment,
where the Longing desiccates,
where tears fall without end.

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Trigger 4 - January 2, 2013

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I free myself from this Hideous world.
Loneliness and Despair will torment no longer.
The Longing will evaporate with my dying breath.
Tears will fall no more.
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Trigger 5 - May 20, 2013
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I hate this world.
I wish I'd never been born.
I wish I'd never been afflicted with this CURSE OF LIFE.
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Trigger 6 - September 14, 2013
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All I've ever wanted, the only thing I've ever truly wanted,
was to share my life with a loving partner, my Eve.
Marry, buy a house, start a family, live the dream.
It's all I've ever wanted.
Such a simple thing.
Such a simple dream.

Trigger 7 - September 14, 2013
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.I finally found her. I found my Eve.
I fall in love. She falls in love.
And the Hideous world makes it impossible.
And the Hideous world destroys me.
Happiness, purpose, meaning, value: all stripped away. All gone.
Because I fell in love.

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Trigger 8 - September 15, 2013
Trigger 9 - September 20, 2013

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I quit the world.
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.I've completely had it.
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There is no reason for me to persist in this Hideous world,
where my only dream CANNOT and WILL NOT EVER come true.
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There is no reason for me to exist in this Hideous world,
where I have no hope, no future, nothing.NOTHING AT ALL.

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I am ending this nightmare.
I am ending the pain.
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I am ENDING.


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I do want to make one thing perfectly clear before I end:
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I NEVER. CONTACTED. SOMEONE.
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Not that the truth matters in this Hideous world.


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I always knew this would happen one day.
I always knew it would end like this.
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I always knew.

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July 29, 2003 -- "In the end, I will most likely die by my own hand."
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December 16, 2007 -- "I am doomed to die alone."
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November 12, 2011 -- "I will die alone, never having known love."
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Christopher Reese Swanson
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Afflicted with the curse of life on December 30, 1971
Freed from the curse on September 20, 2013



Dec.
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November 26, 2011 -- "How will it end? I'm so fearful of the answer to that question. I'm...beginning to cry just thinking about it, tears are running down my cheeks. How is this going to end? Am I doomed to lead a lonely life of tears, forced to play back our moments together, crying endlessly as I am now, stricken with such burning pain in my heart? I'm crying so hard that it's hard to write. I have to pause between sentences. She's going to Mercyhurst where she will be with Steven every day. I'm going to be left alone. She's going to leave me behind. Her life will be one of joy and happiness, while mine will be drenched in sorrow and despair. She would never love me anyways. I'm 22 years older than she is. I'm about as old as her mother. The tears keep pouring out. I hate this world. I hate it. I hate everything about it. That's all I have to look forward to: more pain, more tears, sobbing, crying. I wish I had never been born. I wish I would just drop over dead so the pain would end."​

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things were different"
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It's so fucking over. Every girl wants chad and chads are like 1/10000.
Each of us need to hit on 10000 girls before getting a match.
You can literlley post the secret to create a nuclear bomb, how to be invisible, or how to make a million dollar in a day but roasties would rather watch chads face then any of that.
How bad does he mog you jfl i am jumping off the ledge



Read the comment section if you dare, it's more suicide fuel then all my threads combined

his content is his face, jfl at him showing of his side profile at 0:24

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1. Validation isn't real

The males of nearly every species employ the use of force (rape) in order to pass on their genes, because what the female thinks of them (validation) is irrelevant to them, their primary goal is to reproduce (desire for sex is biological). In fact, in the animal world, the whole concept of validation is non-existant. Validation is a social construct, it is a figment of imagination and only exists in the minds of humans.

2. Men of the past didn't care about validation

If validation is inherent to human nature, then men of the past should also have chased after validation, seeing as though nature is a constant throughout the time-space continuum. But this is not the case, as evidenced by the prevalence of arranged marriages, which took place in order to establish a union/alliance between 2 clans/houses. Marriage was an institution which was established with the purpose of cementing a relationship between 2 families by merging their bloodlines, enabling unquestionable loyalty of the families to each other. The men of the past were aware of this fact, thus they didnt care what the women whom they were marrying thought of them, they cared more about forming powerful unions/alliances which would elevate their respective families/houses to a position of strength.

The only reason men of the present chase after illusory concepts such as "love" and "female validation" is because they have been indoctrinated and brainwashed to do so via feminist propaganda masquerading in the form of the education system and media. Feminism is a movement with the objective of establishing female superiority, disguised as a movement for equality. The ultimate goal of feminists is to make men subservient to women, what better way to do this then by influencing men to value female validation, implicitly influencing men to value females themselves, creating a generation of men who are essentially pussy beggars and female worshippers.

The difference between the men of the past (who didnt care about validation at all) and the men of the present (who seek female validation) is socialization.

YOUR DESIRE FOR SEX IS BIOLOGICAL, YOUR DESIRE FOR VALIDATION IS DUE TO SOCIALIZATION

3. Valuing Female validation whilst devaluing females themselves is contradictory.

@BlkPillPres pretty much sums it up perfectly:



I tried to explain this shit to some retards in the Incel Discord server, namely @Lester and even a mod @knajjd who said that desire for validation is biological, but without even listening to my arguments they verbally attacked me, calling me stupid and low IQ (lol, the irony) and kicked me from the server.

We've reached a point where this forum has become inundated by users who think they're blackpilled (when they really aren't), and to top it all off they have turnip level IQ.

This isnt even a surprise at this point considering the fact that AT LEAST ONE OF THE MODS aren't blackpilled. I felt initially frustrated that there are people who are so low IQ that they dont have the IQ to comprehend the fact that they're low IQ , but later i just felt sorry for them, life must be really tough when you are THAT mentally challenged

Definition: Sociopathy or pscyhopathy is best defined by ASPD(anti-social personality disorder). Key characteristics include inability or very limited ability to feel emotion, callous and disregarding of others, pathological lying for personal gain, manipulation of others for personal gain, inability to feel emotional empathy or very low levels of it etc.


Characteristics Which Apply To Societal Treatment of Incels

Callous and disregarding of our plight:

You see this constantly with statements such as "just shower", "man up", "life isn't fair" or be glad you have food and shelter and aren't some starving guy in Africa. These are intended to dismiss our emotional suffering as unimportant and disregard our pain. They bring up a supposedly greater example that is an unreasonable comparison to paint us as privileged whiners. Meanwhile these same people, who dismiss our pain, have had sex and relationships numerous times within their lives and couldn't live without it, especially women. Even those starving guys in Africa have had more emotional and physical intimacy in their lives than we ever will.

Constant lying with bluepilled platitudes and sugar-coating the issue

This is displayed through claims such as "if you do x, y and z you will get laid no matter how you look" or ideas such as "looks don't matter, it's all about personality." Most people know these are lies and the issue is much more complex, yet by making up these lies, they profit off the time and effort of unattractive incels.

Some of this profit is quite direct such as through PUA scammers, who sell the lie that approaching women in a certain way will lead to sex and relationships, incels pay thousands for these bootcamps and end up with no results. The other way they gain from this is by keeping these men oblivious they will continue to contribute to society, through working necessary jobs to provide services, manufacture goods, maintain infrastructure, construct and design stuff or engage in innovative research. They further benefit from the taxes they pay to keep society running and benefit already privileged groups such as single mothers.

Manipulation through gaslighting, scapegoating and media misrepresentation of the incel perspective

Gaslighting involves making a victim doubt their own perceptions, this is done by claiming that the incel blackpill ideology is delusional, toxic, or evil. They often suggest brainwashing through therapy and medication to incels in doubt which does nothing to change our situation and can at best turn us into brain dead zombies coasting numbly through life.

Scapegoating involves blaming someone for things they are not the cause of, incels are blamed for being unable to get sex or relationships with women, our personality, attitudes, ideology or dislike of women is blamed, instead of genetic factors beyond our control which is the cause. They often mix up cause and effect, claiming we are incel because of being hateful instead of becoming hateful due to being forced into celibacy.

Media also constantly misrepresents us, grouping us with those who are already hated, such as pedophiles, Nazis, Alt-Right or misogynists. They display our issue as one of hatred and wanting to enslave women rather than being rejected for our looks and rightfully feeling resentful and angry about it. They have never disproven the blackpill or any of our concepts and cannot argue logicallyl resulting in them using the ad hominem fallacy instead.

These are purposeful forms of manipulation to make incels doubt themselves, feel ashamed of ourselves, vilify incels to the general public to prevent other oppressed men from joining us and prevent us from publicly discussing our oppression. All of these are engaged to continue to oppress and torture incels, while other groups associated with SJW's are not only given basic rights but special privileges, which make their lives easier.

Inability to feel empathy towards incels

Since most of these people cannot imagine living the incel life, we have low status and poor rap , they feel absolutely no empathy for our suffering at all. As such ideas such as exterminating us, bullying us, ridiculing us or driving us to suicide seem appealing to the majority of people. This is especially seen through SJW types such as IT, who seek to destroy and humiliate us. We are the new boogeyman whom everyone wants to eliminate.

I just came across this thread on le Reddit, which argues that the amount of psychopaths/sociopaths/antisocial people in society is severely underestimated, which is a proposition I would agree with.

But the example the OP uses for unappreciated psychopaths is... us. JFL

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Learning how social dynamics operate, especially as it concerns female nature (which our soyciety not only allows but encourages to be totally uninhibited and unrestrained), and detesting it as "brutal" and "cruel" is not psychopathy.

Psychopaths are the ones who prosper in modern society, and are enlivened by brutality and cruelty, not the ones who are victimized by it. The free-for-all environments of the feminist "sexual marketplace" and the capitalist economic marketplace are their playgrounds, where they are the bullies and we are the bullied. By virtue of being as exploitative and parasitic as possible in intent, yet extremely charming in affect, psychopaths automatically excel with foid-bloodsuckers and their equivalents in the social climbing game: rapacious, greedy scum in corporations and manipulative liars in politics.

Just take Pete Butt as an example. He is the front-runner for the Democratic nomination for president, and he is a literal psychopath. Since the age of 6 year old, he has been completely enamored by the need to climb the social ladder and become the most powerful man in the world. Virtually everything he's done in his life has had that end in mind: to build a resume which would qualify him for the presidency, and establish its superficial credentials, while internally he believes in nothing but his own ambitions for the ultimate reigns of authority. He would be the youngest president to ever take office. And normie and foid voters are actually letting him get as close as he is to his goal!

Pete Butt is also gay, something which he did not admit until it became politically expedient for him.

Here is another homosexual psychopath (diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder) who I found on le Reddit:

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He is an avid supporter of capitalism, and argues that if the state punishes you for your antisocial behavior, and then a capitalist company decides not to hire you for it, that it is the fault of the state for punishing you for your antisocial behavior. Of course, he does not consider the fact that someone who commits crimes (i.e. a psychopath like him) might be responsible for the consequences of his own actions.

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Here he is arguing that necrophilia is acceptable, because dead people have "no value" (implying that he thinks any living people do).

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Here he is basically admitting to being a criminal. He also posts on a sex offender subreddit, and a "LGBT libertarian" subreddit.

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Here he is justifying his bullying of others in school, because it was "convenient." And he states that attention/status just so happens to fall into his lap (teehee).

etc. etc.

As social alienation has increased due to the dislocations wrought by liberal-capitalism, people have naturally become less capable of resolving disputes between themselves, and so have outsourced conflict resolutions to police officers and therapists and the like.

It is no coincidence that a therapist will not hesitate to call the police on you if you say too much, and betray your trust, because both professions are inherently rooted in the contradictions of a low trust society. Both a police officer and a therapist are ultimately working against you, and see you as something to be managed rather than made satisfied.

A therapist is the capitalist equivalent of a KGB spy in the Soviet Union pretending to be your friend, but who is actually just there to inform on any seditious words of yours, while you pay him to do so (whether through the vector of the state or the sham of paying for "mental health treatment").

Except there's much less pretense with a therapist, and at least a KGB spy did not personally force you to remunerate him as he shit-tested your faith in the prevailing system of power.

What do you seriously expect when you say "women's standards are too high"?

By saying that you're setting an objective metric standard and affirming to them they prefer the superior options.

Instead you should say "you're close-minded" or call their standards "irrational tastes" which will force them to actually think for a good REASON WHY they think like that.

Instead of buying into their worldview and adopting their value system, QUESTION IT! DO NOT reinforce it by calling yourself "subhuman" or "manlet".

WHY should you be considered unattractive? Realistically, how do your physical features REALLY affect your PHYSICAL day-to-day life? ALWAYS ASK THIS

Does the shape of your eyelids or chin for example affect your ability to do your job? Probably not. Every taste or preference they have should be QUESTIONED! ALWAYS! And argued about, because a lot of preferences are BULLSHIT and come from Judaic influence through mass media and education.

A lot of it is TAUGHT behavior through social engineering.

Leftists KNOW it's a real thing and they are always trying to change the way they speak and use language for political purposes, but WE don't do that!

Normal are constantly making memories, and those memories are almost always related to doing stuff with other people.

I tried for the past 2 days to enjoy a whole bunch of stuff: movies, anime, manga, novels, games. And they all felt so hollow.

And for example about anime ... I recalled nostalgically stuff from like 5th grade. I guess that's around the time I stopped forming memories, or at least a few years before. There was a girl in class also watching anime, and while she didn't pay any attention to me even when I liked her till 12th grade (she was kind of a nerd and a weird girl so I guess I thought I might've had a chance with her, but I never did though I'm sure she knew I liked her), I still have memories associated with watching a few anime series that she was discussing during break time, at least with others.

I watched those anime series all alone but I still am nostalgic after them because they had a social context. Because I heard others talking about them, and maybe I said a few words too (though iirc I might've kept it secret that I was watching these things).

But now I have no memories for so many years cause ... they lack social context. Even now, I can't properly enjoy things, cause it's just me consuming and forgetting once the series is over. Because there's no social investment, no emotional investment, it's just something I consumed like a bag of chips and then I forget it forever.

I guess this is why I posted so much on this forum. It felt like it gave my days a social element. Felt like posting and having these posts read by some people would give these years some sort of feeling when I recall them afterwards. Like somebody out there remembers me for who I was these few years. Cause unlike that 5th grade time when I was watching anime, for the rest of my life I'll look back to my teens and my twenties and it'll just be a blur. I won't be nostalgic after anything cause no memories were formed. My actions had no social context so they had no emotional weight, no point, no way to turn into memories.

And worst of all, I'm now an adult, and adults are supposed to already have had a bunch of social experiences, to have a social circle, and from now on for them it's just grinding at a job and starting a family and going through life with less time for friends and such. Not that it matters, I'm too avoidant and anxious to a pathological level to actually change and start socializing. I tried, it just ended up worse for me in the end.

A builder, building a house, knows what he is setting out to do and​

how to do it; he can account for all his actions as contributing to​

his end. This knowledge and ability constitute the craft embodied​

in the builder and his special excellence or 'virtue' (arete), qua​

builder. Similarly a man can live well only if he knows clearly​

what is the end of life, what things are of real value, and how they​

are to be attained. This knowledge is the moral virtue of man, qua​

man, and constitutes the art of living.​

-Taken from: "The republic of Plato" book.

My take is that guys like us can't find a realistic ending that would be worth striving for. That demoralizes us and prevents us from any real attempt of self improvement or doing anything because we know the outcome. Normal people tend to leave everything to a chance and live carelessly. They are copers, dreamers and useless fools who never realize their goals because their goals are not realistic nor do they follow the steps required to realize them.

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WHERE ARE THE HIGH IQ FEMALE WEB DEVS? I THOUGHT MEN AND WOMEN WERE EQUALLY INTELLIGENT?!! ISN'T IT JUST POETIC IRONY THAT MISANDRIST WOMEN HAVE TO RELY ON MISOGYNISTIC MEN? LIKE THESE "FEMCELS", ALL WOMEN WILL SOON FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT US MEN.

A man attacked our site and destroyed our servers because I told him its not okay to call women whores

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In my case, I'm afraid it has. If an attractive foid were to land on my doorstep today, I simply wouldn't know what to do with her, nor how to handle any kind of intimite relationship with her. All the adversity I've experienced over the last 20 years of trying to find a romantic partner (I'm an oldcel at 37) have definitely put a damper on my belief in things like "love" and romantic relationships. The youthful fire and enthusiasm with which I would have greeted any woman into my life have long left me. Additionally, taking the blackpill has severely diminished my tolerance for the usual annoying foid behavior and mannerisms. I often look with amazement at my bluepill normie male friends tolerating all this crap from their "loved ones".

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I came across this recently and thought it was a good read. There's apparently a new smartphone app called "MindLAMP". It constantly analyzes your behaviour, your movement, your phone usage, and everything to feed it back to your therapist. It also forces you to fill out constant questionnaires on your mood. If it sees that you're not sleeping or not exercising or don't get a good depression score, it can report that back to your therapist.

But more interestingly it takes other data too. mindLAMP periodically tests for social connection among patients by "using their phones’ microphones to periodically sample audio and identify the presence and qualities of speech that indicate social connection." So if you are not constantly socially interacting with people, the app will actually detect that nobody other than yourself speaks around you and feed that back to your therapist. GPS data is also checked to see if you regularly go outside or not. So if you're a shut in NEET, you can't hide that anymore. It will be reported that you never go outside or interact with anyone. It's not hard to imagine this technology in the future being used to identify potential incels/general social outcasts for imprisonment/committment.

Recent research at UCLA also created an app designed to detect depression from voice recordings. After the AI model was trained on a large dataset of people who called in and filled out mood questionnaires, the app could analyze voice samples to actually determine how depressed you are. The authors foresee forces people to regularly record audio samples in the app to establish their mood. If you do not feel happy, this will be reported.

Even better was an analysis tool created by the University of Washington. After "politely asking" (somehow they got informed consent from people who were locked up against their will) people who were involuntarily committed to a hospital/admitted for a suicide attempt for their internet search history, they found numerous search terms highly correlated with suicide. For example, they found that "final divorce decree cost" was one of the most correlated terms with attempted suicide. Psychiatrists in charge of the study proposed that people at risk of suicide have their internet search patterns monitored for terms like these and that certain search terms will be reported to your doctors as indicating a high risk of suicide in the near-future.

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The main crux of this post is that this will be the future for all potential incels. You will be forced to install an app on your phone and computer. This app will constantly monitor your behaviour. It will look at whether you go outside. It will randomly record you at different intervals to see if you are talking to others and more importantly see if you're happy talking to others. It will look at your search and browsing history. If you are socially isolated, if you are physically isolated, if you are searching the wrong things or speaking in the wrong way it will know and it will be reported to your psychiatrist, who will involuntarily commit you as a danger to yourself and others if you are unable to fix your state of isolation. There will be no opportunity to hide for incels.

Gone are days past where you could slip off the grid to live a NEET life, forgotten by the government bureaucracy. For centuries that was the easiest way to escape the government. You could live as a hermit on your own. You could be free and since you weren't interacting with anyone, nobody would care or even notice that you're gone. But this won't be the future. In the future anyone who is going off the beaten path and leaves society will be reported and dealt with. There is no future for us where we are free. We will be identified with extreme prejudice and dealt with.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

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[mlcurrycel]

@turbocuckcel_7000 Incels and normies work to keep women alive while Chad fucks for free

 

[Conflicted Man]

ER didn't do nearly enough legwork to have his name credited to the extension of Marxist theory to the sex economy. Houellebecq might come the closest, but the ideas still haven't developed anything close to completely.

This is what IT and all the other rancorous & vacuous crowd in the "anti-inkwell action" mean when they tell you " just treat her nice and like a human being", it's just a shitty euphemism from them , like guys haven't been doing that for the longest time and it has yielded no dividends. Screw "treating you like a princess", I'll rather wallow in my condition.

 

[Incel Philosopher]

Money can't choose to go to the bourgeois, because it's an inanimate fucking object, but women can (and do) choose to go the chad-bourgeois.

Actually the same argument does apply to economic Marxism. People choose to do business with billionaire and keep growing his wealth. You are poor because few people want to do business with you, i.e. few people want to exchange money for your skills and possessions.

Having the government take money from a billionaire is in theory equivalent to the government stopping every second or every third girl that tries to enter Chad's bedroom, and redirecting her elsewhere.

 

[Hope and Change]

• Mass legal rape and universal forced monogamy (incel wiki does not recommend or condone this)

why legalise rape and enforce monogamy simutaneously thats just stupid

 

[based_meme]

Actually the same argument does apply to economic Marxism. People choose to do business with billionaire and keep growing his wealth. You are poor because few people want to do business with you, i.e. few people want to exchange money for your skills and possessions.

Having the government take money from a billionaire is in theory equivalent to the government stopping every second or every third girl that tries to enter Chad's bedroom, and redirecting her elsewhere.

But it's not the money itself that chooses, it's whoever owns the money. In sexual Marxism women become the equivalent of the resources that are distributed.

 

[mlcurrycel]

This is what IT and all the other rancorous & vacuous crowd in the "anti-inkwell action" mean when they tell you " just treat her nice and like a human being", it's just a shitty euphemism from them , like guys haven't been doing that for the longest time and it has yielded no dividends. Screw "treating you like a princess", I'll rather wallow in my condition.

When a relationship starts off with you having to prove yourself to a woman, it is in the woman's self interest to always keep you in that submissive serving role

 

[mlcurrycel]

Actually the same argument does apply to economic Marxism. People choose to do business with billionaire and keep growing his wealth. You are poor because few people want to do business with you, i.e. few people want to exchange money for your skills and possessions.

Having the government take money from a billionaire is in theory equivalent to the government stopping every second or every third girl that tries to enter Chad's bedroom, and redirecting her elsewhere.

Excellent understanding

 

[mlcurrycel]

why legalise rape and enforce monogamy simutaneously thats just stupid

I know, I wish I could edit incels.wiki

 

[mlcurrycel]

Actually the same argument does apply to economic Marxism. People choose to do business with billionaire and keep growing his wealth. You are poor because few people want to do business with you, i.e. few people want to exchange money for your skills and possessions.

Having the government take money from a billionaire is in theory equivalent to the government stopping every second or every third girl that tries to enter Chad's bedroom, and redirecting her elsewhere.

When investing, the companies offering the most profit get the most investment. And the best profit is made by mega-corps like Apple who sell shit products but have trapped normies in their product ecosystem. Winner take all.

You may not choose to buy Apple products, but when you deposit money at the bank, the bank buys Apple shares.

 

[Robb97]

JFL @ low IQ commenters here.

Let me get you a TLDR version of your post:

There is a close analogy with our situation with the classical definition of "ploretariats".

1. Imagine, the "looks" is the currency in the sexual market.
2. Chads are those who possess the "looks", they are the "bourgeoisie" and hence we are the "ploretariats", the "have nots".
3. ER is the reactionary response to this "looks" base class struggle.
4. He is one of the first "Bolsheviks" who took weapon to rebel against this "status quo".

All the ugly ass mongrels of the world, unite!!

Most men can still get laid from time to time and find a gf. Only once there are enough blackpilled men that don't make the cutoff, then something like this could happen. Currently, it's too early.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Most men can still get laid from time to time and find a gf. Only once there are enough blackpilled men that don't make the cutoff, then something like this could happen. Currently, it's too early.

Sexlessness is rampant and even a lot of young normie men are coping themselves into volceldom, I see it with my high school friends (I was the runt of the group)

Domestic revolution is hard but creating our own remote rural community with our own law enforcement in some third world country with poor rule of law is comparitively easy. Cults do it all the time.

 

[NihilisticSoul]

I have my own ideological beliefs

 

[Lonelyus]

Mexican Rodgerism, Challenge the chad to a duel and if you win and dont DIE you get his woman

 

[mlcurrycel]

I have my own ideological beliefs

Please share

 

[NihilisticSoul]

Please share

Its basically a world in which alot of humanity's problems are solved by science and technology

Its more of a dream of mine rather than an ideology i could explain it but that would need its own thread.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Its basically a world in which alot of humanity's problems are solved by science and technology

Its more of a dream of mine rather than an ideology i could explain it but that would need its own thread.

well, I support artificial wombs, gene editing, and flesh to silicone consciousness transfer

 

[Bystander++]

Genetic inequality is built into the system and concentrated among the chads, a chad oppresses the vast majority of men by mere his existence, as chad lives life on tutorial mode, chads get all the female attention and monopolise sex, genetic inequality is inseparable from humanity that's why a marxist rodgerist state must put all the HTN and chads in concentration camps, their existence oppresses the sexual proletariat. Economic inequality is closely related to genetic inequality, its always the high iq,tall men who are the CEO's and founders. The likes of Jeremy meeks confirm this, jeremy meeks was a poor ghetto nigger until his mugshot went viral,he ended up marrying and fucking a billionaire gigastacy.
(Fortune 500 CEO height is on average 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) tall )

https://m.economictimes.com/the-necktie-syndrome-why-ceos-tend-to-be-significantly-taller-than-the-average-male/articleshow/10178115.cms)

LoL. Actually J's story has been a popular joke in my country because people don't think he's handsome enough to hook a rich girl. They imply that it's his' sexual power' that works. Perhaps it sounds ridiculous but most men do believe it whether they are incels or not.

 

[Bystander++]

You have amazed me by your posts. Sounds like one of my friends. He loves everything about USSR. When he aksed ,"Why not join me", I just said I hold skeptism towards any political theory cuz I don't really understand them. Moreover, there is an obvious gap between reality and theory. The most dangerous thing is that you may lose insight into it if you are overobessed with something. Honestly speaking, I've been reading books on politics in order to learn what a world I'm living in and hope I will answer this quetion by myself one day.
(Sorry for my broken English T_T

 

[asdfghjqbbbb]

excellent

 

[Raider919]

Methinks this all may be because of societal attitudes.

 

[TheIncelPill]

"From each according to her abilities, to each according to his needs."

 

[Trec]

It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next.

But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the world we live in. A scientific and logical analysis of systems of limited resources - Marxism. When we undertake a Marxist analysis of the sexual economy, we immediately find its nuances explained and its realities presented for all to see.

The fundamental element of inequality is exploitation. In economic Marxism, exploitation occurs when a capitalist takes most of the value a worker's labor creates, leaving them barely enough to survive. In other words, the worker's surplus value is stolen from them. This is how capitalists make profits. Sometimes, the capitalists let some segments of workers keep more of their value, in order to bribe and pacify them.

In the sexual economy, there are two distinct classes of men - Chads...and everyone else. There is a group which keeps most women for itself - the Chad-Bourgeois - and a much larger group which, despite being responsible for maintaining global civilization with their labor so that Chad is free to take all he wants, is denied most women. These are the sexual proletariat.

The sexuality of women should be evenly spread among society, but it is not. Instead, it is commodified by sexual capitalism and given to Chad. The Chad-Bourgeoisie allow the sexual proletariat to have just as much pussy as they need to keep the human race alive through reproduction. But even here is it not fair; the proletariat get Chad's leftovers - only when the Chad-Bourgeois no longer want a woman does she go to settle down, marry, and reproduce with a non-Chad.

Now, I mentioned before that the economic bourgeois sometimes bribe workers by giving them more than they would otherwise. In the modern era, the Chad-Bourgeois are facing a world where the proletariat is no longer consigned to the feudal life of arranged marriages without any questions asked, and can see the reality of sexual inequality via media and their own insights. The Chad-Bourgeois responds by bribing the sexual proletariat - they, too, are now allowed to have sex before marriage, and perhaps fuck many women. These women are, of course, still the ones Chad doesn't want, but it bribes most of the world. Remember, this happened when the sexual free market, where women can now choose their partners without having to marry a non-Chad in the end, replaced the Feudal system of arranged marriage. This is sexual capitalism.

The people so bribed are normies. This is the main reason why normies are blind to the sexual capitalist system and lack revolutionary potential.

But the system is imperfect. Due to the female's nature, not all members of the proletariat can be bribed just by the Chad-Bourgeois allowing (pseudo) free sex for everyone. A group at the bottom is inevitability left out - incels.

As sexual feudalism shifted to sexual capitalism, a contradiction was exposed - the Contradiction of Sexual Capitalism is the existence of incels, and the conclusion of the capitalist stage of history must be the resolving of this contradiction. Due to how females are hardwired to be only attracted to Chads, incels always lose in a sexual free market. Many females would rather be single than marry an incel, and a result the incels become a class which doesn't even get marriage, much less any additional bribes. Due to their extreme condition, the incels become "blackpilled" and see the system as it is. The incels thus attain class consciousness.

The basic structure of the sexual world is that the Chad-Bourgeois take all the pussy they can, especially the desirable kind, while eventually passing their leftovers to the sexual proletariat as bribes and allowances. Among the latter group, those are who successfully bribed are normies, and those who become class conscious are incels.

So how do the Chad-Bourgeois manage to keep society under their control, even with incels attain class consciousness? In Marxism, the answer is the Base and superstructure. In a sexual capitalist society, all we know is shaped by the system of sexual economy we live in. Our culture, beliefs, and so on are bent to conform to and reinforce the Chad-Bourgeois narrative. In order to prevent the sexual proletariat from attaining class consciousness, the Chad-Bourgouse use culture to create a false consciousness for them to live in instead.

The key to understanding this is to understand that truth is relative to one's class. Comrade Lenin explained this with his concept of partiinost, party truth. What is "true" depends on your class, truth for one class may be falsehood for another. Thus, what class's "truth" you're listening to is very important.

For example, let's take the Chad-Bourgeois idea of "confidence." Confidence is an intentionally vague idea to explain Chad's sexual success as anything besides winning the genetic lottery. It is said that someone - anyone - with "confidence" can also live like Chad does. For the Chad-Bourgoise, this is true. All a Chad has to do is be willing step outside or set up an online dating profile and they will get all the pussy they want. However, for the rest of the world, this is not the case. By enforcing the idea of confidence instead of genetic luck, Chad yet again bribes the sexual proletariat - bribes them with hope. The idea of confidence explains structural inequality as personal failure - in the same way the capitalist tells the exploited worker that he, too, would be rich if he only worked harder, so does the Chad tell the sexual proletariat that they could have sex if they were only just a little more confident. In this way, the sexual proletariat are blamed for their own oppression - their celibacy is a result of their own moral failings, because they were not "confident" enough. The Chad-Bourgeois present themselves as having earned the pussy they inherent, while the rest of the world deserves to live without. Confidence is just one example of how sexual capitalism distorts culture and creates false narratives to keep people blind.

Normies love false narratives because they are bribed. A normie, who may have even had sex, believes that his success in the past means the confidence narrative and so on is true - he can truly be a Chad, if he works hard enough! Thus the normies convince themselves Chad's world is not only fair but desirable, because they too might have a chance of being chad.

Normies are deceived to varying degrees.

A regular normie has had their bribe a few times and doesn't bother to think about the realities of exploitation and the sexual economy. These normies can be blackpilled with evidence, but most of them just double down on the false consciousness due to their hope that they can be a Chad.

A beta is a normie who is faced with the reality of sexual inequality. He may be an orbiter, hanging around women in the hope he'll get sex. He may be a nice guy, who is nice to women for the same reason. He may be cucked, whereby he shares a single woman with other men so that he can at least get laid. Though he may deny it, he is painfully aware of these material and sexual realities.

A white knight has come against a blackpill before, and it scared them. They swing the other way - they actively try and spread Chad's narrative and enforce it, because they are trying convince themselves. There is great overlap between white knights and Betas, as the latter often exhibit white knight behavior. Many Betas turn into white knights when confronted with the black pill.

All normies have one thing in common - they do not want to accept the reality of the blackpill because they want to continue to believe they can be Chad. Another element is that they enjoy Chad's narrative when it suits them - regarding incels. They don't like to remember that Chad is sexually more successful then them because he is just better....but that's not so bad if it means that they are better than incels in turn, since they at least "earned" some sex and incels could not! In economic capitalism, the reality of economic status defined by class is ignored in favor of an individualist, democratic narrative, and sexual capitalism works the same way. The realities of incels and the Chad-Bourgeois are overlooked in favor of the lie that it's all about individual action, that any individual can work his way to the top of the sexual marketplace through hard work and imaginary concepts like "confidence."

By the methods described above, the Chad-Bourgeois extract all of the surplus value - in this context, surplus pussy - from the workers/sexual proletariat for themselves, and maintain the system through bribing normies and creating false consciousness. But here's where it gets really interesting - the immortal science of historical materialism explains even more than this.

Everyone knows that even among Chads there is a hierarchy - a racial hierarchy, with white Chad at the top. In the 1960s, Comrade Mao Zedong developed Marxist-Leninist-Maoism to explain the differences between the first world and the third world. Maoism reveals the first world exploits the third world through imperialism, and sets up a global class hierarchy of sorts. This economic hierarchy in turn ties into a sexual hierarchy - one where the imperialist white Chads are above the colonized Chads. A critique of imperialism explains the racial Chad hierarchy - which, of course, filters down into the sexual proletariat as well.

Following this trend, we can see the close interconnection between looks (Chad privilege) and economic success. Females like money and power...and it seems Chad ends up with those as well.

We all know that studies have proven Chads are much more likely to succeed in economic sphere. They are given quality jobs and often end up in very social, very prestigious positions like executive officers. But this shows us that wealth comes second. Poor Chads still dominate the sexual proletariat, and their poverty, on average, never lasts long. In other words, sexual inequality comes before economic inequality, and due to how intertwined they are, it means that economic inequality is a consequence of sexual inequality due to society's constant preference for Chad. Sexual inequality predates economic capitalism, feudalism, even primitive tribalism - sexual inequality is the original and eternal form of hierarchy, it is harbinger of all other inequalities in other areas.

Thus, the Revolutionary and Immortal Science of Marxist-Rodgerism is born. We see that the fundamental conflict is between the well endowed Chad-Bourgeoisie and the sexual proletariat, and that all other conflicts ultimately derive from this great inequality. We see that the Chad-Bourgeois manipulates culture and society to further its narratives and worldview to maintain this power structure. Finally, we must conclude that the only way forward for humanity is to dismantle the system of sexual capitalism so that sex can be distributed fairly to all members of society.

Incels of the world, rise up! You have nothing to lose but your chains!


u/Communecel

I'm a national rodgerist. Marxism and communism is gay. Hitlers socialism is superior

 

[asdfghjqbbbb]

excellent

 

[asdfghjqbbbb]

I'm a national rodgerist. Marxism and communism is gay. Hitlers socialism is superior

also excellent

 

[asdfghjqbbbb]

"From each according to her abilities, to each according to his needs."

yes!

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

The reason why this is great despite me thinking very little of Marxism in general, is that it's using popular leftist ideas and rhetoric to make it's case. In many instance, progressives won't be able to refute what is being said without contradicting what they already publicly stated before.

Honestly, Marxism might work better for the sexual market than the financial one:
In the financial world, Marx grew up witnessing exploitation and poverty around him and predicted the misery capitalism would foster among it's citizens would inevitably give birth to a desire to revolt amongst the downtrodden.

Instead, the workers became wealthier than ever, stopped working themselfs to the death side by side with their children and suddenly had enough money, they didn't want the whole system to be overthrown anymore. They themselfs would loose too much. Only the poorest, not yet industrialised countries had further revolutions and they all ended in slaughter.

But the sexual market does not allow for growing the pie in the way the financial market does. You can't just create more and more sex to spread around, there are pretty hard limits, the primary factors being the male to female ratio and the grade of control excercised on human behavior by the state.
So we do see things play out roughly as a Marxist analysis would predict.

I still am not optimistic Marxism has a solution to the problem it describes. Can't help but remember how the Russians abolished the banking monopoly and tried to get rid of money itself as currency, only a few months before they had to revert everythign because their country was collapsing.

Either way, this was honestly fun to read, the title made me think it was going to be retarded drivel but I will probably end up copy pasting some lines from here for future use in arguments.

A spontaneous idea that came to my mind:

-Marxism failed to predict reality, in part because how the money/value was divided became less important than how much was created because their was so much room for growth left, by the end of it everyone was better off, especially the poor, for whom having more money was the most important.

-On the sexual market, you can't easily create more and more value as you please. But there is something you can do that will have the same effect:

-Control the gender-ratio by controlling how many men and women are born. This allows for a higher number of women per man, which effectively means more value per consumer, which is in a sense value creation.

-Affecting this ratio is also not all that unrealistic. I mean, I don't see a good way and we have negative infinite political capital, but in theory it's doable.

 

[TheIncelPill]

The reason why this is great despite me thinking very little of marxism in general is that it's using popular leftist ideas and rhetoric to make it's case. In many instance, progressives won't be able to refute what is being said without contradicting what they said before.

Leftism, especially Marxism, is an ideology for losers, arbitrarily changing the rules of the game so losers get more stuff. At least Rodgerism owns this to its logical conclusion through true universal equality. You love equality? Cool, fuck an incel or shut up, fascist.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Leftism, especially Marxism, is an ideology for losers, arbitrarily changing the rules of the game so losers get more stuff. At least Rodgerism owns this to its logical conclusion through true universal equality. You love equality? Cool, fuck an incel or shut up, fascist.

Read the rest, I get more enthusiastic as I go on.
Ultimately though, I don't care how it feels or if it is consistent in it's philisophy. Does it have any chance to become reality? A consistent but impractical solution is no solution at all.

Since you want to force equality, your methods of controlling the behavior of the population must be very effective. Not only does this make every Western power your enemy, it makes for piss easy color revolutions if you lose control just a bit. You need North Korea style influence over the lifes of your people.

Not to be rude, but I would bet against anyone here being able to put that together from scratch, while being under hostile siege from all sides, while lacking nukes.

 

[TheIncelPill]

Ultimately though, I don't care how it feels or if it is consistent in it's philisophy. Does it have any chance to become reality? A consistent but impractical solution is no solution at all.

No. Hence inequality is ideal. Either become a Chad or die trying.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

The reason why this is great despite me thinking very little of Marxism in general, is that it's using popular leftist ideas and rhetoric to make it's case. In many instance, progressives won't be able to refute what is being said without contradicting what they already publicly stated before.

Honestly, Marxism might work better for the sexual market than the financial one:
In the financial world, Marx grew up witnessing exploitation and poverty around him and predicted the misery capitalism would foster among it's citizens would inevitably give birth to a desire to revolt amongst the downtrodden.

Instead, the workers became wealthier than ever, stopped working themselfs to the death side by side with their children and suddenly had enough money, they didn't want the whole system to be overthrown anymore. They themselfs would loose too much. Only the poorest, not yet industrialised countries had further revolutions and they all ended in slaughter.

But the sexual market does not allow for growing the pie in the way the financial market does. You can't just create more and more sex to spread around, there are pretty hard limits, the primary factors being the male to female ratio and the grade of control excercised on human behavior by the state.
So we do see things play out roughly as a Marxist analysis would predict.

I still am not optimistic Marxism has a solution to the problem it describes. Can't help but remember how the Russians abolished the banking monopoly and tried to get rid of money itself as currency, only a few months before they had to revert everythign because their country was collapsing.

Either way, this was honestly fun to read, the title made me think it was going to be retarded drivel but I will probably end up copy pasting some lines from here for future use in arguments.

A spontaneous idea that came to my mind:

-Marxism failed to predict reality, in part because how the money/value was divided became less important than how much was created because their was so much room for growth left, by the end of it everyone was better off, especially the poor, for whom having more money was the most important.

-On the sexual market, you can't easily create more and more value as you please. But there is something you can do that will have the same effect:

-Control the gender-ratio by controlling how many men and women are born. This allows for a higher number of women per man, which effectively means more value per consumer, which is in a sense value creation.

-Affecting this ratio is also not all that unrealistic. I mean, I don't see a good way and we have negative infinite political capital, but in theory it's doable.

One more thing:
-Chad harems are a staple of human history
-Controling sex-ratio allows to adjust the dial so that there are more women than chads can take for themselfs, it's analogue to how capitalism created a more value instead of a fairer distribution of value.
-This could be turned up to such extremes that there are enough women for every man to have a harem, though, since some will not want that and more importantly, because men will still need to create enough financial value to carry all these women along, that's probably going too far.
-But with a more modest change you might still create a large enough surplus of women for everyone to end up with one.

-You might argue that a truly BPed person would see how no amount of women can change how unattractive incels are to females, but I wouldn't feel certain in that. Nowadays many women still choose to settle down, a majority even. A lot of women can't stand being alone and with way more women than men around their negotiating position will be as weak as it can be, however weak that is.

 

[iblamemyself]

Very high IQ, I enjoyed reading this. Let’s not forget that femoids actively choose Chads. This Chad and non-Chad class system only exists because of femoids.

 

[soul contre tous]

Christianity essentially is sexual socialism already. But let's not forget, love and attraction can't be forced!
Incels, even in a system like that, will never be genuinely loved and lusted after by foids.
If you want to be loved, YOU must have a loveable bone structure and loveable genetics, no way around that.

 

[Incel Philosopher]

-Marxism failed to predict reality, in part because how the money/value was divided became less important than how much was created because their was so much room for growth left, by the end of it everyone was better off, especially the poor, for whom having more money was the most important.

-On the sexual market, you can't easily create more and more value as you please. But there is something you can do that will have the same effect:

-Control the gender-ratio by controlling how many men and women are born. This allows for a higher number of women per man, which effectively means more value per consumer, which is in a sense value creation.

-Affecting this ratio is also not all that unrealistic. I mean, I don't see a good way and we have negative infinite political capital, but in theory it's doable.

IVF and cloning can be used to alter the sex ratio.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Good.

 

[Lonelyus]

Marxism and communism can go fuck itself, Only the 4th reich of Lonelyus shall stand!