[Blackpill] ORBITING girls is NOT CUCKED, it's your only chance at ascension

Rassimov

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I'll be frank here; most of you wish to experience sex without betabuxxing (a legit reason), but also without even trying to ORBIT women in any way or form (a low iq expectation). Unless you've had women cold-approach you in the past, or gave you IOI's for a warm approach, chances are you don't posses the kavorka and you're doomed to either inceldom or escortceling, so orbiting may be the only thing that could get you laid without a significant financial input. Average, borderline ugly, or other non-Chad men that are sexually active always have a expanded circle of female acquaintances, and yes, even friends. Incels who recoil in disgust at the prospect of orbiting, rather shielding their pride (and virginity) by rationalizing their inhibition with excuses that after all there is nothing to talk about with girls as they're too low iq are GiGa-coping. Those of you who orbited and got burned badly did it the wrong way by developing a severe case of onetis, needily orbited her as she was the center of your universe, got rejected, and eventually concluding it's best not to talk to girls for the next 10 years, JFL.

Successful orbiting is should be of a ambiguous nature, flirty yet aloof, completely non-committed, and done around several girls simultaneously in order do desentisisze oneself to their proximity.


Orbiting girls for prolonged periods causes the mirror effect. You overrate yourself as your brain has adjusted to your mirror reflection. Similar processes unfold with women and their orbiters; the longer she will be exposed to your goofy mug, the more comfortable she will become with it, the more likable you become to her.
 
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This guy's correct. Remember lads, orbiting=/=humilliating yourself.
I wouldn't even call what he explains orbiting, JUST BEING FRIENDLY AND FLIRTY.
Don't orbit like a fag.
 
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Only if those girls can gelp to find cute adorable loli waifu of culture
 
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I don't think it works but I might try it if I could.
 
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You might have a point there OP
 
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Not sure if it works that way
 
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Yeah i don't think so. The more a woman is exposed to an incel's ugly face, the more tired and angry she gets, foids don't suddenly start to like ugly men because they see them a lot. If that was the case women would be fine fucking ugly guys and incels wouldn't exist. When you orbit you just put in a massive effort in a rat race without a prize. Only the biggest morons do that shit. The ones that get laid would get laid without orbiting too.
 
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Tl;Dr you want to settle down with a girl? Man up!
 
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Fuck no. Pride is all I have left. I have nothing else. I would rather die than give that up and get nothing back but validating roasts ego.
 
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Orbiting by definition is cucked. You wont be the only one doing it and hence you wont be exclusive. Also, you have to be in the top 20% of her orbiters to even have a chance. Given the current dating market, even upper tier normies are busy orbiting.
 
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I already tried that. both bitches made me spend a lot of money driving, buying snacks for both of them, while they talked about the neighborhood chads that I didn't want to have sex with them.

Refusing to orbit has nothing to do with pride. I have absolutely no pride in myself. I just stopped orbiting because I realized it's useless. They will continue to crave the chad, will continue to see you as an enun, and if they eventually have sex with you, it will be extremely temporary, you will fall in love while she will bounce back on a chad's cock.
 
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I'll be frank here; most of you wish to experience sex without betabuxxing (a legit reason), but also without even trying to ORBIT women at any way or form (a low iq expectation). Unless you've had women cold-approach you in the past, or gave you IOI's for a warm approach, chances are you don't posses the kavorka and you're doomed to either inceldom or escortceling, so orbiting may be the only thing that could get you laid without a significant financial input. Average, borderline ugly, or other non-Chad men that are sexually active always have a expanded circle of female acquaintances, and yes, even friends. Incels who recoil in disgust at the prospect of orbiting, rather shielding their pride (and virginity) by rationalizing their inhibition with excuses that after all there is nothing to talk about with girls as they're too low iq are GiGa-coping. Those of you who orbited and got burned badly did it the wrong way by developing a severe case of onetis, needily orbited her as she was the center of your universe, got rejected, and eventually concluding it's best not to talk to girls for the next 10 years, JFL.

Successful orbiting is should be of a ambiguous nature, flirty yet aloof, completely non-committed, and done around several girls simultaneously in order do desentisisze oneself to their proximity.


Orbiting girls for prolonged periods causes the mirror effect. You overrate yourself as your brain has adjusted to your mirror reflection. Similar processes unfold with women and their orbiters; the longer she will be exposed to your goofy mug, the more comfortable she will become with it, the more likable you become to her.

....what a faggot of an idea .. i aint no woman bitch , they got alot of options if you want to eumiliate yourself its better to do betabuxx and not to be an orbiter faggot thirsty to the pussy .... id rather go extinct ..and this is not high inhib not at all .. im a man and as a man you will respect me ..
 
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Won't matter in the end, you can be friends with them but you will never fuck them. I've been friends with lots of girls in the past, nothing came out of it and I made it extremely obvious that I wanted to stick my dick in them. They just said "I see you like a brother teehee", fucking cunts.
 
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Orbiting is useful for normies not incels. Orbiting will work for incels only when the hole has crossed 30 and has turned into 120 kg single mom with 7 kids.
 
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I feel you @Rassimov , at first I was like, what a cucked thread, but coming from you I gave it a shot reading it, and tbf you aren't lying. It reminds me of my posts talking about being realistic and maybe settle for something that's better than roping even though we can't be Chad. It makes sense but be careful not to become an emotional betabux.
 
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You can only orbit if she wants you around, it's in the name.

If you're unattractive (I mean less than a normie) then it's very likely that won't even want you around her. Your mere presence will anger, annoy or disgust her.
 
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Just because you see an ugly face a lot it doesnt mean you are going to like it

Even blackops2 now seems less repulsive to me ,after seeing his face 9000 times but i still know hes ugly
 
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I love the unpopularopinion tier threads ngl :soy:
 
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Nothing will come from orbiting unless you're at least doable in terms of looks. Orbiting girls as a sub 5 is utterly useless. You're only humiliating yourself.

Not trying to pick a fight or anything but you're kinda bluepilled, OP.
 
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I feel you @Rassimov , at first I was like, what a cucked thread, but coming from you I gave it a shot reading it, and tbf you aren't lying. It reminds me of my posts talking about being realistic and maybe settle for something that's better than roping even though we can't be Chad. It makes sense but be careful not to become an emotional betabux.
Actually makes little sense. Orbiting = asking to get treated like a doormat. I wouldnt call that ascension. Also, how about keeping your dignity? Or are you so desperate to be with a hole that youre ready to sacrifice your entire worth and value as a human being?
 
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This site is getting worse everyday
 
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Try it out and let us know if it works for you
 
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Guys do not orbit those bitchs let them choke in their own frustration , think about it if you had A very ugly girl orbiting you and being nice to you whould you fuck her ? .. of course you do , cuz we all horny as fuck ...but , its not how woman operate .
 
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If she doesnt respond to my flirt attempt positively than I will just remove her from my life. No need to fuck myself more emotionally
 
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Guys do not orbit those bitchs ..let them choke in their own frustration .. think about it ..if you had A very ugly girl orbiting you and being nice to you whould you fuck her ? .. of course you do , cuz we all horny as fuck ...but .. its not how woman operate .
JFL @ your punctuation. Gave me a mild form of cancer. Why do you type like that?
 
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Believing a foid will eventually fuck you is pure fantasy. Foids know instantly if they will fuck a guy. So if you arent fucking her by now, you won't be in the future (except in exceptionally rare unicorn-level circumstances).
 
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It's because of idiots like you, that foids have an inflated ego.

If every male on the planet was to stop orbiting TOMORROW; by the end of this year, the Inceldom numbers would drop.
Believing a foid will eventually fuck you is pure fantasy. Foids know instantly if they will fuck a guy. So if you arent fucking her by now, you won't be in the future (except in exceptionally rare unicorn-level circumstances).
This site is getting worse everyday
Nothing will come from orbiting unless you're at least doable in terms of looks. Orbiting girls as a sub 5 is utterly useless. You're only humiliating yourself.

Not trying to pick a fight or anything but you're kinda bluepilled, OP.
Orbiting by definition is cucked. You wont be the only one doing it and hence you wont be exclusive. Also, you have to be in the top 20% of her orbiters to even have a chance. Given the current dating market, even upper tier normies are busy orbiting.
 
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I'll be frank here; most of you wish to experience sex without betabuxxing (a legit reason), but also without even trying to ORBIT women in any way or form (a low iq expectation). Unless you've had women cold-approach you in the past, or gave you IOI's for a warm approach, chances are you don't posses the kavorka and you're doomed to either inceldom or escortceling, so orbiting may be the only thing that could get you laid without a significant financial input. Average, borderline ugly, or other non-Chad men that are sexually active always have a expanded circle of female acquaintances, and yes, even friends. Incels who recoil in disgust at the prospect of orbiting, rather shielding their pride (and virginity) by rationalizing their inhibition with excuses that after all there is nothing to talk about with girls as they're too low iq are GiGa-coping. Those of you who orbited and got burned badly did it the wrong way by developing a severe case of onetis, needily orbited her as she was the center of your universe, got rejected, and eventually concluding it's best not to talk to girls for the next 10 years, JFL.

Successful orbiting is should be of a ambiguous nature, flirty yet aloof, completely non-committed, and done around several girls simultaneously in order do desentisisze oneself to their proximity.


Orbiting girls for prolonged periods causes the mirror effect. You overrate yourself as your brain has adjusted to your mirror reflection. Similar processes unfold with women and their orbiters; the longer she will be exposed to your goofy mug, the more comfortable she will become with it, the more likable you become to her.
I agree with you that trying to make friends with girls as means to expand your social circle is a good thing, but as far as I know orbiting is a one sided relationship where you basically don't get anything back and that is cucked.
 
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What is this bluepilled bullshit
 
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Nah man, Orbiting is not worth.

Imagine spent your time, effort and money orbiting a female.

Meanwhile, the girl you are orbiting are throwing her deepest holes to chad she knows that night, he doesn't have to do any effort, just be handsome and tall (a.k.a exists)

Meanwhile, you only want holding her hands, a cuddle, and maybe, a little kiss.

It's like you are working on a business for free waiting for minimum wage someday, meanwhile, your boss is throwing the benefits of the business to a random kid each weekend, do you want to continue working on that shit?
 
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Low iq post.
Thats not how the market works.
You would have to spend at least 10 years orbiting a Becky for her even start seeing you as somthing more than "a friend". So lets say 20yo you start orbiting this aveare looking becky. At 30 she hits the wall but craves Chad. At 36 she has at least 1 kid. So at 40 she replays your texts. Now 100 kg and single mother of 2. Looking like she is 50. Wow! No thank you
 
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No woman ever wanted me to orbit her. I probably would do it if i had the possibility, even though i know it's pointless.
 
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Cope

She'll just use you. She will never kiss you or give any pussy
 
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The majority of the people on this forum are failed blue pilled normies, so posts like these do not surprise me one bit.

"The person who has learned the system of a certain philosophy, although he has the perfect knowledge of all the principles, definitions and arguments found in that philosophy, as well as of the divisions or branches that have been made out of that system, possesses no more than historical knowledge of that philosophy. He knows only what has been told him, his judgments are those which he has received from his teachers. Dispute the validity of a definition, and he is completely at a loss to find another. He has formed his mind on another's, but the imitative faculty is not the productive one. His knowledge has not been drawn from reason, and although objectively considered it is rational knowledge, subjectively it is merely historical knowledge." -Immanuel Kant
 
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Nah man, Orbiting is not worth.

Imagine spent your time, effort and money orbiting a female.

Meanwhile, the girl you are orbiting are throwing her deepest holes to chad she knows that night, he doesn't have to do any effort, just be handsome and tall (a.k.a exists)

Meanwhile, you only want holding her hands, a cuddle, and maybe, a little kiss.

It's like you are working on a business for free waiting for minimum wage someday, meanwhile, your boss is throwing the benefits of the business to a random kid each weekend, do you want to continue working on that shit?

Just piss away your PRIME earning years and physical peak on a landwhale so you can maybe get a kiss, theory.
 
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Orbiting a girl who clearly has no interest in your what so ever is very cucked
 
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Fuck no. Pride is all I have left. I have nothing else. I would rather die than give that up and get nothing back but validating roasts ego.
Who's talking about selflessly filling her with compliments and validation?

I already tried that. both bitches made me spend a lot of money driving, buying snacks for both of them, while they talked about the neighborhood chads that I didn't want to have sex with them.
You never tested what would happen if you stopped doing favors to test the terrain. Bad orbiting example.

Won't matter in the end, you can be friends with them but you will never fuck them. I've been friends with lots of girls in the past, nothing came out of it and I made it extremely obvious that I wanted to stick my dick in them. They just said "I see you like a brother teehee", fucking cunts.
:chad: :chad: points for not being creeped out by your advances . You sound like you were aiming for Stacies, tho.
Actually makes little sense. Orbiting = asking to get treated like a doormat. I wouldnt call that ascension. Also, how about keeping your dignity? Or are you so desperate to be with a hole that youre ready to sacrifice your entire worth and value as a human being?
Read my post again; I explicitly denounce this way of orbiting.

It's because of idiots like you, that foids have an inflated ego.

If every male on the planet was to stop orbiting TOMORROW; by the end of this year, the Inceldom numbers would drop.
I also wish for world peace.

I agree with you that trying to make friends with girls as means to expand your social circle is a good thing, but as far as I know orbiting is a one sided relationship where you basically don't get anything back and that is cucked.
I am not from the anglosphere so we might have a linguistic problem of what orbiting means, but I claim that you can orbit just to test the terrain, not shower them with validation or, even worse, material means.

You can only orbit if she wants you around, it's in the name.

If you're unattractive (I mean less than a normie) then it's very likely that won't even want you around her. Your mere presence will anger, annoy or disgust her.
this, tbh.
 
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Who's talking about selflessly filling her with compliments and validation?


You never tested what would happen if you stopped doing favors to test the terrain. Bad orbiting example.


:chad: :chad: points for not being creeped out by your advances . You sound like you were aiming for Stacies, tho.

Read my post again; I explicitly denounce this way of orbiting.


I also wish for world peace.


I am not from the anglosphere so we might have a linguistic problem of what orbiting means, but I claim that you can orbit just to test the terrain, not shower them with validation or, even worse, material means.


this, tbh.
Giving females any attention or validation is a part of orbitting. They get off keeping you around like a dog on a leash knowing you want to fuck them but they won't let you.

If you are currently orbiting a girl and seeking validation about it, please let me know.
 
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Orbit, orbit and orbit until Chad comes along, then what are you going to do?
90 percent of men that orbit failed to get any sex from the female they were orbiting.Any male that mogs you well shaft you into a corner and steal your female.
 
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when has oribiting ever worked ever
 
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She'll just use you. She will never kiss you or give any pussy
This tbh have seen it many times. Its called friendzone and this shit is the cuckiest thing on earth
 
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Orbiting a girl who clearly has no interest in your what so ever is very cucked
This

@Rassimov
Its a complete waste of time and effort, learned from experience, the light flirtation and back and forth may make you feel good for a while, but its just a "temporary high", at some point you'll realize she was just stringing you along because she needs someone to talk to and/or amuse her, so she keeps you around like a pet, and that's when you'll feel lower than low, especially when you realize some other guy who doesn't put in half the effort is screwing her brains out

You are basically Chad's tool, you keep her happy and entertained during the day so she can go home primed and ready to fuck Chad's brains out and then talk about the "funny guy" she knows that's "easy to talk to", Chad's aren't threatened by you are all and are actually amused and appreciative of your role, because you "help make her happy"

There's this thing that married guys who visit strip clubs do, they don't really find their wives all that attractive, so they go to these places to rile themselves up and then go home to have sex (well that's something I've heard of), an orbiter is like the female equivalent of that, women want emotional satisfaction and to feel like their thoughts and feelings mean something, an orbiter is an emotional tampon for women, who helps them to remain mentally happy/complacent

You are pretty much a tool to stabilize and/or enhance the sex lives or normies, chads and stacies, I would kill myself before I even tried to orbit again, its just not worth it, you literally get nothing out of it, its a cope
 
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If this advice works, how are you still an incel?
 
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I feel you @Rassimov , at first I was like, what a cucked thread, but coming from you I gave it a shot reading it, and tbf you aren't lying. It reminds me of my posts talking about being realistic and maybe settle for something that's better than roping even though we can't be Chad. It makes sense but be careful not to become an emotional betabux.
Thx. I explicitly described the cucked way of orbiting most users here did in their bluepilled past, and once they got rejected by the pussy they kept putting on a pedestal, they see the everything in back and white; interactions with women as either fucking-them-on-sight (The Chad way) or needlessly showering them with compliments (The Cuck way (which they once were) ; there is no inbetween, no nuance, no dimension in exploring the issue.
 
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There is one obvious problem with trying to orbit women or be their friends. They have to let you do it and tolerate your presence. No woman has ever done that with me so I cannot even spend time with women, much less be their friends. Smalltalk with collegues during work (but no social interaction outside of work) is the best I've managed and I have to carry the whole conversation. Women only initiate conversations with me when they want me to do something for them.
 
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I'm being lynched by those who don't even understand what I'm talking about.
Uses a specific term with a specific meaning and gets butthurt when people assume he meant the specific meaning of the specific term. Wow, what a genius you are, it's shocks me that you haven't been able to apply your towering intellect and sage advice to not being an incel.
 
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If you are 5/10 or something and do it for a prolonged amount of time with a lot of girls there is a slim chance that it can work
However this is only a waste of time and violation of dignity for a 2/10 trucel
You will be used as an emotional tampon and cast aside
 
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This

@Rassimov
Its a complete waste of time and effort, learned from experience, the light flirtation and back and forth may make you feel good for a while, but its just a "temporary high", at some point you'll realize she was just stringing you along because she needs someone to talk to and/or amuse her, so she keeps you around like a pet, and that's when you'll feel lower than low, especially when you realize some other guy who doesn't put in half the effort is screwing her brains out

You are basically Chad's tool, you keep her happy and entertained during the day so she can go home primed and ready to fuck Chad's brains out and then talk about the "funny guy" she knows that's "easy to talk to", Chad's aren't threatened by you are all and are actually amused and appreciative of your role, because you "help make her happy"

There's this thing that married guys who visit strip clubs do, they don't really find their wives all that attractive, so they go to these places to rile themselves up and then go home to have sex (well that's something I've heard of), an orbiter is like the female equivalent of that, women want emotional satisfaction and to feel like their thoughts and feelings mean something, an orbiter is an emotional tampon for women, who helps them to remain mentally happy/complacent

You are pretty much a tool to stabilize and/or enhance the sex lives or normies, chads and stacies, I would kill myself before I even tried to orbit again, its just not worth it, you literally get nothing out of it, its a cope
Legit. it also means killing ur dignity. and u have to put up that orbit act forever and ever if u were to marry said bitch. JFL at tortutring yourself for a lifetime for a used up whore
 
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Thx. I'm being lynched by those who don't even understand what I'm talking about. I explicitly described the cucked way of orbiting most users here did in their bluepilled past, and once they got rejected by the pussy they kept putting on a pedestal, they see the everything in back and white; interactions with women as either fucking-them-on-sight (The Chad way) or needlessly showering them with compliments (The Cuck way (which they once were) ; there is no inbetween, no nuance, no dimension in exploring the issue.
why are you trying to redefine a well established phrase instead of creating a new one? :waitwhat:
 
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I think the general definition of orbiting is: helping out foids emotionally and financially without getting anything in return.

I think you're talking about creating friendships with foids and this will eventually lead to relationships. While this may be a possibility, you may only learn to become friend zoned. The RP taught if you didn't get sexual with a woman she would never see you as dating material and probably wouldn't recommend you to friends.

Foids don't want our validation because we don't pass the threshold of looks. If you do pass you may be able to coerce foids into seeking your attention. I'm not sure you could turn a nice friendship into a manipulative one. Being in close proximity to the foid may allow you to use negging tactics, where you gain her trust but then disapprove of her aesthetics and personality.
 
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