Well I hate cumskins, niggers, towelheads and curries. But I don't really hate rice people.
Blackpill Time to stop the copes: there is no reason to fuck escorts
When I say some people are too anxious to approach foids, I am not saying it's a good idea to approach them. I'm simply using it as an example of something anxiety can prevent people from doing. If I had used a different example than "approach," it would have made the same point.
How am I saying that it's your fault that you can't have nonpaid sex?
You caring about their judgment is causing you anxiety, when you shouldn't care about an escort's judgment.
You say you wouldn't enjoy it. How do you know? Your body has many nerve endings and your brain is wired to enjoy sex. It needs sex, whether paid or not. It's highly unlikely that you wouldn't enjoy it.
There is no such thing as being incel due to anxiety. You are a PUA coper.
"you shouldn't care"
See? This is why this whole argument is pointless, you talk like I could just change the way my brain works, and magically stop caring and start fucking. This is why these arguments go nowhere, the BlackPillPress guy or whatever he is called also says the same thing, its like I am talking to a motivational coach who says you can do whatever you want and be whatever you want. No, you can't change your mind, for the same reaosn you can't turn a straight man gay or vice versa, you can't make a man who cares about validation during sex into one who doesn't care simply by changing his mindset.
Can you address this, please?
If Dan Bilzerian made an account in this forum, he would be free to talk about how he fucks 6 different girls per day and loves it but its no big deal because he is paying for it so still an incel.
OK, understood.
You see what im saying?
I never seen him say nigger, rice, or towelheads
Only cumskin. So not only is he racist against a single race, he's also a biased hypocrite.
Im not even white, im hispanic, im someone completely capable of calling out a wetback for what they are.
stop giving money to foids 
Some escorts enjoy the sex if u are not too repulsive like 4-4.5
nothing wrong with escorts, they are there for a reason.
I heard fleshlights that at warmed up feel like the real thing so yeah u wouldn’t need to go to a escort but u gotta have actual sex at least once in ur life
u will know if it’s overrated or underrated or worth ur time.
im like a 2/10, but if they're good at their job they'll pretend to not be too repulsed by me
You know I only just now noticed how stupid this thread title is, I didn't even notice it before, its as if my mind was blocking it out lol
Its like saying "there is no reason to masturbate"
If one can find a reason to masturbate, then a reason to pay for sex exists
Its like saying "there is no reason to masturbate"
If one can find a reason to masturbate, then a reason to pay for sex exists
God IQ post
I dont want to die a virgin so im gonna see an escort some day.
Escorts are just assisted masturbation that costs a lot of money.
If you can get something for free, then why pay tons of money for it? That's why there is no reason to do it. You are the equivalent of simps wasting their money on OnlyFans. The only reason your mind "blocked it" is because it destroys your copes and you prefered to block it than to face it.
"Dude I just paid $300 for a bag of air!"
"There is no reason to buy air!"
"Woah this is so stupid my mind blocked it, are you saying there is no reason to breathe??"
I find it hilarious how you can say something this stupid, and have a moron telling you "god IQ post" right after.
You cannot tell because its not sex, its assisted masturbation. Sure you might think "sex is overrated" when you just paid a hooker to suck your dick. There is a reason the vast majority of normies prefer the real thing instead of boring awkward paid "sex" with strangers.
There is much more to it than dick inside vag. Paying a hooker and saying you know what sex feels like is like paying someone to pretend to like you and say you know what having friends feel like.
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Yes, escorts are glorified masturbation. No, it is not the equivalent of masturbation.
You can apply your logic to every consumer product or service, where X < Y:
"If you can cook a pack of ramen for $X, then why go eat out at a restaurant for $Y?"
"If you can buy a shitty 1993 Honda Civic for $X, then why buy a brand-new Mercedes for $Y?"
"If you can stay at this moldy rat-infested motel for $X, then why stay at the Marriott for $Y?"
Value is subjective, of course, but for most people, ejaculating into a Stacy's mouth is an upgrade to doing so into a paper towel.
There's no reason NOT to fuck escorts if, accounting for costs, the experience provides value for you.
Give me a paper towel over some PAID whore who is disgusted at me. I find it funny how you unironically think being a whore-endorsing simp is better than just masturbating.
How cucked can you be to compare actual work with "sex work"? Those women are not working, they are doing what nobody else wants to do for a ton of money. They are like someone who eats vomit because everyone else throws money at them when they do it. Require no effort, just to be able to overcome your disgust because you want fast money.
Imagine comparing hookers to some sort of upgrade of masturbation. You are not getting something better than masturbation, you are getting a downgrade. Which is the reason it doesn't make any sense.
How is spending tons of money to fuck a disgusted whore who hates you better than just masturbating for free? I don't understand your mental process. You sound like those cucks who spend tons of money on their whore wives and think they are above us because she sucks his dick now and then. It's not better. The only thing better than masturbation is sex with a woman who you are attracted to and who is attracted to you, because that brings much more than D in V, it brings validation and other emotions that we crave just as much as the physical aspect of it.
Everyone in this forum who claims they don't care about validation are coping hard, lying to yourselves. Especially considering how engaged you are into proving us wrong with your copes and mental gymnastics.
Those Whore are "earning" up to 10k a month and are too stupid to invest and burst it all on drugs and shit. Getting Paid 140€ an hour and being unable to build your life around it is just sad.
It feels good to be close to a woman etc but in the end its not worth spending too much money on it. Maybe once a month at most. On the other hand if you don't have anything else to spend money on it doesnt matter, fuck this life
It feels good to be close to a woman etc but in the end its not worth spending too much money on it. Maybe once a month at most. On the other hand if you don't have anything else to spend money on it doesnt matter, fuck this life
did you have a bad experience with a whore or is this coming from someone who hasn't seen one yet
just curious
man you are twitchy
chill pill
Good to know your arguments ended, seems I am right.
did you have a bad experience with a whore or is this coming from someone who hasn't seen one yet
just curious
man you are twitchy
chill pill
Well some of them buy properties and even manage to retire. And a lot of people fall for drugs (normally those who are stupid but earn a lot of money like famous sportsmen/artists, kids with rich parents, etc.)
It's ultra cucked to spend hundreds on some whore who fuck Chads and Tyrones for free, though. No matter what.
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No, I just didn't see any point in arguing with you.
I merely pointed out that from a microeconomic perspective, saying "there is no reason to consume X" is a shit argument, while noting that value is subjective. Since your argument revolves around you preferring a paper towel over a paid whore, OK. I don't agree. There's nothing I can say to change your mind about that, and vice versa.
For what it's worth I agree that fucking whores doesn't bring the genuine emotional validation that I want, but the physical sensation of sex, to me, is worth the amount I'm paying. Like I said, value is subjective. For some people $300 is a lot, for others it's pocket change.
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You don't see any point because you can't argue with me, I am right.
I said there is no reason to fuck an escort, and you can't argue with it, just keep paying hookers like a good simp.
Honestly the sexual stimulation for me was only about half the pleasure, and even then it's far better than fapping. But also I just enjoyed being close to someone for once, having that physical contact is really nice. I can't get it with women more normally so I don't mind directly paying to feel a bit better.
I did argue with it. I pointed out that if I get value from it, it's good enough reason to do it.
Are you retarded? You are capable of reading, right?
I know we’ve had our issues watcher but I’ve always been a fan of much of your work.
This is a supremely high IQ post.
If I could make a suggestion to the moderation/admins here it would be for one of them to create a sticky topic with your opening post here as the first post in the sticky thread and one by blkpillpress that I recently read that goes entirely against your post here.
My idea behind the mods doing that is I think the both of you laid out great pros and cons or compare and contrast arguments on this particular tenuous/controversial and often confusing subject in the incel community.
This is a supremely high IQ post.
If I could make a suggestion to the moderation/admins here it would be for one of them to create a sticky topic with your opening post here as the first post in the sticky thread and one by blkpillpress that I recently read that goes entirely against your post here.
My idea behind the mods doing that is I think the both of you laid out great pros and cons or compare and contrast arguments on this particular tenuous/controversial and often confusing subject in the incel community.
Whether you consider it valuable or not is irrelevant. It's objectively a waste of money and a simp move.
I don't understand how you can enjoy intimacy with a person who you know is disgusted at you and hating every second of it.
Thanks
There is nothing objective about your argument, it revolves around "muh feelz", your argument boils down to "it doesn't feel good for me, therefore it can't feel good for anyone else".
Jackhammer the whore or sex doll.
Because I care about how I feel, not the unspoken and in this case meaningless lack of attraction that an escort has for me. If I can get physical contact and sex with a woman who is nice to me, then that's what I care about.
To me it seems like you care more about knowing someone is attracted to you than you do having sex or being close to anyone.
Just like the vast majority of men who are not psychopaths I do care about validation and you are fooling yourself if you deny that.
And JFL at enjoying intimacy with some paid whore.
Your argument is literally "I like the way it feels therefore its not a waste of money"
There is nothing objective about your argument, it revolves around "muh feelz", your argument boils down to "it doesn't feel good for me, therefore it can't feel good for anyone else".
You might as well buy heroin or something.
I do think all drugs should be legalized.
That does not mean its a good idea to waste all your money on them.
I mean sure it would be nice if women were attracted to me, since it would lead to me getting these things more easily. However just because an escort isn't doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy sex with her. Tbh I don't know where you're going with this. It's like saying that because you can't get one thing that you want, you'll deny yourself anything remotely related out of some misguided urge to spite what's been denied to you. In reality though the only person whom you're hurting is yourself.
Who said anything about wasting all your money?
The thing "remotely related" is called masturbation and anyone an do it for free. No reason to pay some hooker to do what you can do by yourself.
I’d rather fuck escorts than stay without any pussy my entire life,being a escortcel is the best cope tbh
Okay, well I've already told you I have a reason. It makes me feel better whereas fapping doesn't. So now were talking in circles.
I'm starting to wonder if you have some kind of mental defect, because you say stuff that is so obviously stupid sounding that I can't believe even you can't see how stupid it sounds
If simps were paying and actually getting to fuck those OnlyFans girls, then I'd be the equivalent to them, that makes sense, but they pay for pictures and videos, I don't see why you can't understand something that simple
When I pay, I get to have sex, when they pay, they get to pay for something they can just pirate online, you can literally just wait a few days and download the same videos that you would have paid for, hackers are dumping OnlyFans collections on torrents and download sites lol
It sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself than convince me, stop coping.
Do you not cook and buy specific foods because they taste good?
Why should sex be any different?
The problem is you are ironically the one who is a simp, you've pedestalized women and sex as "something special" so there's a "right way" or "wrong way" to get it
Sex is just sex, grow up and stop thinking like a child, buying sex is like buying a burger and fries to me, when I'm hungry and I want something tasty, I'll buy it lol.
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Its the worst cope, and an expensive one too.
Mental defect? HAHAHAHAH
This comes from the retard with over 14 thousand posts on an incel forum who claims paid sex is just as valid as hookups!
"Just fuck a hooker, bro!"
The vast majority of normies and Chads who can have actual sex don't become whoremongers, why should I listen to some fuck who never had the real thing and are telling me there is no difference between the two??
I mean, you could just theoretically stop being an incel by your bullshit logic, yet here you still are. Coping by telling other incels that paid sex is real sex and that everyone who disagrees with you is mentally defective. You can't see one palm in front of your face.
You crave validation by constantly coming here and trying to sound smart, and then claim you don't care about validation. You think you are above incels and simps at the same time, while you defend giving women mountains of money for their pussy like a good cuck.
This is classic bluepill cope, straight out of reddit.
"Sex is nothing special, just fuck a hooker! It's the same thing!!"
Seriously, I don't know why you are even allowed to post here considering how much you defend this version of beta buxxing. How can you give women so much money and dare to call anyone else a simp? You are a big ass joke.
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You must have some serious mental disorder. Is it our fault that you are poor and have no money? Who the fuck cares if it is expensive as long as your budget makes it? I wagecuck all day long, live with my parents, barely having any costs. I am flooded with money in my bank account just laying there and rotting after paying my mobile and gymcel bills. Paying twice or even thrice in the month is basically no harm financially for me. The problem is that you assume that we believe the girls enjoy it or that they like us thinking that we are too dumb to realize that ourselves. For me there are two alternatives.
Either you 1. Wagecuck all your life at your shitjob and die as a virgin without knowing how stacy-pussy tastes like. While your colleagues sit in the lunchbreak talking about their girlfriends, boyfriends. Or while you randomly hear a gang of guys in the train talking about the girls they have been with.
or 2. Fuck some good looking escorts once or twice every month even though they obviously do it for money and not for the feelings but making you not give a shit about the situations above and saving you from rage and suicidefueling.
So what are the benefits? Well, I feel way better right after an appointment and can quality-cope for up to two-three weeks until I book the next appointment. I don't have to care about good looking stacies walking on the streets like before knowing that I have fucked 30 girls way better looking than her. I don't have to feel bad when I hear other men talking about the girl or girls they have fucked.
Surely the best is to fuck a girl that wants you. But you and I know that it will not happen. So is it better to just sit at home and masturbate into a toiletpaper or cum on a 10/10 girl?
The only problem is that you will never escape the fact that you will never get to experience true love and emotions with a girl. But I am starting to grow up from that shit and have accepted my fate. Quality-coping by escortcelling has saved me from turmoil.
And last: accept other people's opinions.
You know you are talking with a mentally ill freak when they start projecting it onto you. You definitely think about mental health constantly due to your mental problems. Classic projection.
Also, TL;DR
My time is precious
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Not gonna waste my time reading all of the posts here but I'll say one thing. Users who enjoy paid sex and have enough money for that should not be here tbh. You can't call yourself a celibate if you're getting er dick sucked on a weekly basis tbh. A certain rich ricecel comes to my mind. I don't know why users like him are here tbh. They just like to feel superior among other rejects tbh.
Exactly. They are not only fakecels, but they brag about it and blame us for our inceldom. They are pure cancer on this forum.
Lol. In what way are we escortcels better than you when you have the same opportunity to buy a 10/10 stacy for 30 minutes or 1 hour whenever you feel for it as long as you got the money?
We might technically not be celibate anymore, but we just as you can't get a girl to like us. So we are still in the same boat.
Enjoy your "precious" time dying without knowing how pussy feels. Enjoy masturbating till your dick gets sore and you can't feel pleasure of it anymore. Lol. At the end of the day you know very well the escortcels feel mentally way better than you or other anti-escortcels will ever do. That is the reason why you are taking out your anger at us because you know that we at least have the balls to pick up the phone and book an appointment.
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Not everyone live in your rich countries dude. I live in a disgusting shithole. It's extremely hard to find a prostitute that's not STD ridden and they are expensive. I have to save money for months to even think about that and even then I'll probably just coom prematurely and end up wasting money. Mind you I still live with my parents so I'll also have to rent out some hotel. It's not easy for me dude judging by your avi you're probably some Europeancel where it's legal and cheap. Not here.
Cope cope cope
Your emotional bullshit won't work on me. If you actually enjoy hooker sex and if it's cheap then you should leave. Can't stand sex havers like you on this forum.
Knowing that you got your dick sucked by some blonde germanic Stacy meanwhile I'm here with my cock in my hands and feeling depressed after that post nut clarity is absolutely emasculating. I might as well just post of looksmaxx among the fakecels there if that's the case. I come here to cope with other likewise virgins.
You mog me. You are not a celibate. You should leave. OUT
Do you think it is easy for me? I live in Sweden where paying sex is illegal and where the police are out catching sex buyers everyday because our feminist-government keeps giving money to the police for the sole purpose to catch sex buyers. In your country you can probably bribe the cop to get away or the cops don't care about sex buyers at all even though it is illegal. In case of getting caught I will have to pay a very high fine and get a stamp in my criminal record for 5 years which everyone in Sweden including family and employer can look up. The government also propose to implement mandatory prison term for all sex buyers. A proposal pending in parliament to being decided in May. And I pay 200 dollars for 30 minutes while americans and germans pay like 80 bucks. So where are you from if I can ask? Because prostitutes are everywhere.
Is it my fault that you can't enjoy hooker sex when you can find it as well? At least try it before saying anything. It is not impossible for you to travel to a nearby or other country where you can get blowed by a germanic stacy as well.
Ofcourse I'll try it once I have saved some money. But buying whores with your savings is giga stupid. First I'll need a steady stream of passive income. I can't just waste whatever money I have on hookers..I'm a virgin so it'll be a big waste of my money.
Ignorance at its finest. Typical cumskin.
To get blowed by a Germanic Stacy I'll have to sell my house, buy winter clothes cuz my shitskin ass will freeze to death in Germany, then get a plane ticket to Germany with all the money I have and finally get my Germanic Stacy that will probably reject me because of my height/looks/accent.
And btw you live in EU you can travel to Germany easily. I get that your country is cucked(it's Sweden afterall) but you have the privilege dude. Some of us are utterly hopelessly FUCKED. Consider yourself lucky that you're not me and enjoy the rest of your life knowing that you atleast lifemog someone (me).
What is the problem? Save enough money while working and book an appointment once to just get your virginity away. Take that step first before thinking about the late future.Ofcourse I'll try it once I have saved some money. But buying whores with your savings is giga stupid. First I'll need a steady stream of passive income. I can't just waste whatever money I have on hookers..I'm a virgin so it'll be a big waste of my money.
Ignorance at its finest. Typical cumskin.
To get blowed by a Germanic Stacy I'll have to sell my house, buy winter clothes cuz my shitskin ass will freeze to death in Germany, then get a plane ticket to Germany with all the money I have and finally get my Germanic Stacy that will probably reject me because of my height/looks/accent.
And btw you live in EU you can travel to Germany easily. I get that your country is cucked(it's Sweden afterall) but you have the privilege dude. Some of us are utterly hopelessly FUCKED. Consider yourself lucky that you're not me and enjoy the rest of your life knowing that you atleast lifemog someone (me).
Sorry to hear about your situation. But life is not just. The same chads can pound girls every minute while we can't in our whole lifetime. And the same with me that was born in a country where you get treated worse than a murderer if you buy sex. Booking a plane ticket to Germany is not that easy as well because I live with my family. Don't you think they will know what I am up to if I say "I will be in Berlin/Dusseldorf for 2 days"?
And tell me which country you are from...
I need money first. To get that I need a job and to get a job I'll have to studyslave for years and compete among 10 million other job hungry psychopathic curries.
I know but I don't worry about chads. It's like me worrying because I'm not a billionaire when I don't even have 10€ to my name. I just want to earn some money and cope. It's whitecels like you who have their basic needs fulfilled that worry about being Chads.
I can understand as I'm living with parents as well and I never leave my house.
India.
Prostitution is extremely complicated here. You can either visit EXTREMELY unhygienic STD laden whore houses for a quick fuck(
) like most slum dwellers or you book some expensive whore from some whore site (and most of them are scam so you'll need someone experienced to guide you for your first time). Then you'll need to book a hotel and hope that it's not a scam and you don't coom in 5 mins and waste your money. It's not easy, there are so many variables so only the somewhat well off guys can indulge in good quality escorts tbh. I don't have that luxury YET.Hopefully I'll somehow moneymaxx in 5-6 years and save enough for a weekly/monthly whore visit tbh.
I am ethnic myself and not white as you think. TBH I actually look like a curry even though I'm not an indian.I need money first. To get that I need a job and to get a job I'll have to studyslave for years and compete among 10 million other job hungry psychopathic curries.
I know but I don't worry about chads. It's like me worrying because I'm not a billionaire when I don't even have 10€ to my name. I just want to earn some money and cope. It's whitecels like you who have their basic needs fulfilled that worry about being Chads.
I can understand as I'm living with parents as well and I never leave my house.
India.
Prostitution is extremely complicated here. You can either visit EXTREMELY unhygienic STD laden whore houses for a quick fuck(
Hopefully I'll somehow moneymaxx in 5-6 years and save enough for a weekly/monthly whore visit tbh.
So is your plan to live with your parents unemployed for the rest of your life?
Yes I am not denying I am more priviledged than you. But try to save money and then take a nice vacation to Germany or Prague where it is cheaper.
Has your family given you an opportunity to arrange your marriage?
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