Serious We need an anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, anti-female ALT-LEFT rather than a shitty pro-capitalist, cuckservative alt-right

[Big Yikes]

In all societies, in which women are or were oppressed by a tradcuck ruling class were low-status men oppressed even more harshly. Islam, for instance, is not right about women as it promotes literal harems and an inceldom for people whose only option is to blow themselves up to get 72 virgins in heaven. And generally speaking: the vast majority of men had been living in utmost poverty and misery before the workers' movement gained prominence. Mainly because of the workers’ movement was the ruling (and possessing) class eventually forced to share at least a LITTLE bit of their riches. Now the ruling class couldn’t simply rule alone anymore but had to fear strikes and uprisings, since all those without possessions (of factories, real estate, i.e. capital) had begun to organize under independently elected leaders. In their organizations, snitches, shills, concern trolls and the like were quickly removed.

Out of fear of an even "worse" revolution of the non-possessing class, how it later actually occurred in Russia, the so-called "welfare state" came into existence: old-age pensions, accident insurance, employee health insurance, high-tariff policies to protect profits and wages from foreign competition, the 35.5 - 38-hour-week and the weekend itself. All according to the idea of "sacrifice a part to save the whole". The "welfare state" was not so much an invention of socialists but a tool to prevent a socialist revolution from happening. This was true for Bismarck's 19th century Germany as well as for the Western bloc during the Cold War.

Russia was a backward agrarian state with 90% or so of the people being illiterate peasants with virtually no rights whatsoever when the Socialist Revolution happened. Later, Hitler (who was financed by the capitalists to destroy the unions) burned everything down. DESPITE ALL THAT was socialism able to turn a backward peasant country that had been destroyed by a fascist world war into the first space power and a country that was somewhat able to defend itself from the evil US empire.

But now that the capitalists have won the cold war, the welfare state is getting destroyed too. The idea that there still IS a lush welfare state is a fox news meme. Most people are now overworked but underpaid, horrified by the idea of losing the shitty jobs they have:

Majority of adults at 'breaking point' at work, study finds

NINE in 10 adults are close to “breaking point” at work. Research polling 2,000 professionals found the average working adult feels stressed for almost a third of their entire working d…

www.thesun.co.uk

(Capitalism has also made the single-income family impossible. The traditional family with the man as the sole breadwinner isn't even possible anymore in late-stage capitalism. Instead, it is more and more common that both partners have to work 2 jobs or so, lol, just to barely make it!)

Everything the ruling class was forced to share with the non-possessing class especially between 1950-1990, the ruling class now takes back again as they do not have to fear socialism anymore. The left of the west was destroyed with a carrot-and-stick policy: sticks against those who actually fight to increase the living standard of the people, carrot for open-border-fanatics (which the capitalists want to import cheap labor), SJW, feminists, etc. The current "left" basically has the function medieval monasteries and monks had in the dark ages: that of a build-in pseudo-opposition that is not so much opposed against poverty but opposed against people being rich: "Don’t drive a car! Don’t use an airplane to see other parts of the world! Don’t eat meat! Don’t enjoy politically incorrect jokes! Don’t enjoy your video games!" And so on.

Obviously, though, there are also issues with the orthodox left. Mainly in regards to women, of course. Michel Houellebecq wrote about how the "deregulation" of the sexual market has the same capitalist/monopolistic effects as the deregulation of the economic market:

"Just like unrestrained economic liberty, and for similar reasons, sexual liberty produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It’s what’s known as ‘the law of the market’. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally free economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally free sexual system some have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude."

This is why we need an anti-capitalist, anti-feminist ALT-LEFT rather than a shitty pro-capitalist, pro-cuckservative alt-right. Low-status men were always more oppressed in tradcuck societies than women. The other day, someone here wrote in another thread about "the left" that, quote:

Real men do not need health-care if they cannot afford it. Either you work and you can pay for it or you don't and you die. That is the manly way. It is foids who want to have hedges against every imaginable risk.

This is the most cucked thing I've ever read. "I do not deserve a girlfriend because I'm ugly" is not as cucked as saying "I do deserve to die in the richest countries the world has ever seen because I'm a plumber or an electrician rather than the son of a CEO with five private yachts".

No one is as cucked as someone who supports capitalism despite not owning any capital himself.

 

[Napoleon de Geso]

Yes. Not in mood to read this right now, but maybe count me in

 

[RandomGuy]

To escape there are but three methods — two illusory and a third real. The first two are the bar and the church, debauchery of the body or debauchery of the mind; the third is social revolution.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

(Representative) democracy and capitalism is a union of worst kind tbh.

 

[RandomGuy]

Chews really have no use for liberalism and democracy, but they're conquering the world in the name of liberalism and democracy.

 

[Lookscel]

In all societies, in which women are or were oppressed by a tradcuck ruling class were low-status men oppressed even more harshly. Islam, for instance, is not right about women as it promotes literal harems and an inceldom for people whose only option is to blow themselves up to get 72 virgins in heaven. And generally speaking: the vast majority of men had been living in utmost poverty and misery before the workers' movement gained prominence. Mainly because of the workers’ movement was the ruling (and possessing) class eventually forced to share at least a LITTLE bit of their riches. Now the ruling class couldn’t simply rule alone anymore but had to fear strikes and uprisings, since all those without possessions (of factories, real estate, i.e. capital) had begun to organize under independently elected leaders. In their organizations, snitches, shills, concern trolls and the like were quickly removed.

Out of fear of an even "worse" revolution of the non-possessing class, how it later actually occurred in Russia, the so-called "welfare state" came into existence: old-age pensions, accident insurance, employee health insurance, high-tariff policies to protect profits and wages from foreign competition, the 35.5 - 38-hour-week and the weekend itself. All according to the idea of "sacrifice a part to save the whole". The "welfare state" was not so much an invention of socialists but a tool to prevent a socialist revolution from happening. This was true for Bismarck's 19th century Germany as well as for the Western bloc during the Cold War.

Russia was a backward agrarian state with 90% or so of the people being illiterate peasants with virtually no rights whatsoever when the Socialist Revolution happened. Later, Hitler (who was financed by the capitalists to destroy the unions) burned everything down. DESPITE ALL THAT was socialism able to turn a backward peasant country that had been destroyed by a fascist world war into the first space power and a country that was somewhat able to defend itself from the evil US empire.

But now that the capitalists have won the cold war, the welfare state is getting destroyed too. The idea that there still IS a lush welfare state is a fox news meme. Most people are now overworked but underpaid, horrified by the idea of losing the shitty jobs they have:

Majority of adults at 'breaking point' at work, study finds

NINE in 10 adults are close to “breaking point” at work. Research polling 2,000 professionals found the average working adult feels stressed for almost a third of their entire working d…

www.thesun.co.uk

(Capitalism has also made the single-income family impossible. The traditional family with the man as the sole breadwinner isn't even possible anymore in late-stage capitalism. Instead, it is more and more common that both partners have to work 2 jobs or so, lol, just to barely make it!)

Everything the ruling class was forced to share with the non-possessing class especially between 1950-1990, the ruling class now takes back again as they do not have to fear socialism anymore. The left of the west was destroyed with a carrot-and-stick policy: sticks against those who actually fight to increase the living standard of the people, carrot for open-border-fanatics (which the capitalists want to import cheap labor), SJW, feminists, etc. The current "left" basically has the function medieval monasteries and monks had in the dark ages: that of a build-in pseudo-opposition that is not so much opposed against poverty but opposed against people being rich: "Don’t drive a car! Don’t use an airplane to see other parts of the world! Don’t eat meat! Don’t enjoy politically incorrect jokes! Don’t enjoy your video games!" And so on.

Obviously, though, there are also issues with the orthodox left. Mainly in regards to women, of course. Michel Houellebecq wrote about how the "deregulation" of the sexual market has the same capitalist/monopolistic effects as the deregulation of the economic market:

"Just like unrestrained economic liberty, and for similar reasons, sexual liberty produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It’s what’s known as ‘the law of the market’. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally free economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally free sexual system some have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude."

This is why we need an anti-capitalist, anti-feminist ALT-LEFT rather than a shitty pro-capitalist, pro-cuckservative alt-right. Low-status men were always more oppressed in tradcuck societies than women. The other day, someone here wrote in another thread about "the left" that, quote:

This is the most cucked thing I've ever read. "I do not deserve a girlfriend because I'm ugly" is not as cucked as saying "I do deserve to die in the richest countries the world has ever seen because I'm a plumber or an electrician rather than the son of a CEO with five private yachts".

No one is as cucked as someone who supports capitalism despite not owning any capital himself.

Capitalism is the best economic model we have. But muhh socialism . Capitalism is based on merit, socialism is a fantasy world where government has Monopoly over everything and everybody is happy. Name one socialist and Communist country which is successful and not courrupt to core. But muh China , China has liberalized it's market and is socialist/Communist in name only.

Look at Soviet Union's famous car for example which was supposed to compete with the west, it was a shitty car with a waiting list of atleast 6 months. Now compare this to capitalist west's cars, you had competition and variety, service was good and delivery didn't take 6 months.

In socialism , people who do there job know that there is no competition and people have no choice but to buy form them, so they do there work poorly because there are simply no repercussions and no one can make another service/industry to rival them.

 

[Kardacel]

Your posts are always so good man, I love reading them.

The problem with the alt-right is an overwhelming fear of intellectualism & theory, the movement consists of talking heads that have catchy rhetoric but very little knowledge a good example of this would be Jordan Peterson's debate with Zizek, I mean, the dude literally only read the Communist manifesto and he actually thinks he's anywhere near the level of someone like Zizek, it is just so absurd that it actually makes perfect sense in clownworld.

(Kermit voice) "Oh do you want equality of outcome or opportunity?? Hmm? GOTCHYA"

You will often see Alt-Righters bring up the same arguments over & over again, why? Because their ideology isn't structured or comprehensive, they have no understanding of materialism/metaphysics and so they will often just lurch over to metaphysics like the Nazi vrill shit or some Nordic/Pagan bullshit, it doesn't matter to them, what matters to them is that they can say "PAH PAH SJW GETS PWNED OMEGALOL".

They haven't even read about Dialectics so what do they do when you ask them how it all came to be this way? Oh uh it's the j-j-jews, yeah, that's why. All of these issues, wealth inequality, hypergamy, destabilisation of society, these are structural issues nothing will fucking change after you kill all the Jews and brown people, the only reason Fascism exists is to protect the wealth that has been accumulated through neo-liberal exploitation of workers & imperialism, Fascism is Liberalism protecting itself when people finally snap.

I sympathise with a lot of them, in many ways but they're just really stupid. Sorry. Also no, Socialism/Communism isn't when "the gubbament does stuff".

If you don't have class consciousness, you are a literal fucking NPC.

 

[Mr Joyboy]

The alt right is not pro capitalist.

Your posts are always so good man, I love reading them.

The problem with the alt-right is an overwhelming fear of intellectualism & theory, the movement consists of talking heads that have catchy rhetoric but very little knowledge a good example of this would be Jordan Peterson's debate with Zizek, I mean, the dude literally only read the Communist manifesto and he actually thinks he's anywhere near the level of someone like Zizek, it is just so absurd that it actually makes perfect sense in clownworld.

(Kermit voice) "Oh do you want equality of outcome or opportunity?? Hmm? GOTCHYA"

You will often see Alt-Righters bring up the same arguments over & over again, why? Because their ideology isn't structured or comprehensive, they have no understanding of materialism/metaphysics and so they will often just lurch over to metaphysics like the Nazi vrill shit or some Nordic/Pagan bullshit, it doesn't matter to them, what matters to them is that they can say "PAH PAH SJW GETS PWNED OMEGALOL".

They haven't even read about Dialectics so what do they do when you ask them how it all came to be this way? Oh uh it's the j-j-jews, yeah, that's why. All of these issues, wealth inequality, hypergamy, destabilisation of society, these are structural issues nothing will fucking change after you kill all the Jews and brown people, the only reason Fascism exists is to protect the wealth that has been accumulated through neo-liberal exploitation of workers & imperialism, Fascism is Liberalism protecting itself.

I sympathise with a lot of them, in many ways but they're just really stupid. Sorry. Also no, Socialism/Communism isn't when "the gubbament does stuff".

If you don't have class consciousness, you are a literal fucking NPC.

If you think Jordan Peterson is alt right, then you're very far off the mark. Jordan Peterson is a liberal.

 

[Kardacel]

If you think Jordan Peterson is alt right, then you're very far off the mark. Jordan Peterson is a liberal.

Jordan Peterson is crypto, just like 99% of alt-righters, that's where you all start. Liberalism & Fascism are the same thing, just in different stages of progression.

I'm not going to attack Spencer, Cantwell or anyone else who's openly Fash because your arguments are all based on race-identity, if that's what you identify with rather than your class and you're willing to defend the private property of the rich based on that then you're just a Class cuck. You have been hoodwinked.

 

[Deleted member 21504]

In all societies, in which women are or were oppressed by a tradcuck ruling class were low-status men oppressed even more harshly. Islam, for instance, is not right about women as it promotes literal harems and an inceldom for people whose only option is to blow themselves up to get 72 virgins in heaven. And generally speaking: the vast majority of men had been living in utmost poverty and misery before the workers' movement gained prominence. Mainly because of the workers’ movement was the ruling (and possessing) class eventually forced to share at least a LITTLE bit of their riches. Now the ruling class couldn’t simply rule alone anymore but had to fear strikes and uprisings, since all those without possessions (of factories, real estate, i.e. capital) had begun to organize under independently elected leaders. In their organizations, snitches, shills, concern trolls and the like were quickly removed.

Out of fear of an even "worse" revolution of the non-possessing class, how it later actually occurred in Russia, the so-called "welfare state" came into existence: old-age pensions, accident insurance, employee health insurance, high-tariff policies to protect profits and wages from foreign competition, the 35.5 - 38-hour-week and the weekend itself. All according to the idea of "sacrifice a part to save the whole". The "welfare state" was not so much an invention of socialists but a tool to prevent a socialist revolution from happening. This was true for Bismarck's 19th century Germany as well as for the Western bloc during the Cold War.

Russia was a backward agrarian state with 90% or so of the people being illiterate peasants with virtually no rights whatsoever when the Socialist Revolution happened. Later, Hitler (who was financed by the capitalists to destroy the unions) burned everything down. DESPITE ALL THAT was socialism able to turn a backward peasant country that had been destroyed by a fascist world war into the first space power and a country that was somewhat able to defend itself from the evil US empire.

But now that the capitalists have won the cold war, the welfare state is getting destroyed too. The idea that there still IS a lush welfare state is a fox news meme. Most people are now overworked but underpaid, horrified by the idea of losing the shitty jobs they have:

Majority of adults at 'breaking point' at work, study finds

NINE in 10 adults are close to “breaking point” at work. Research polling 2,000 professionals found the average working adult feels stressed for almost a third of their entire working d…

www.thesun.co.uk

(Capitalism has also made the single-income family impossible. The traditional family with the man as the sole breadwinner isn't even possible anymore in late-stage capitalism. Instead, it is more and more common that both partners have to work 2 jobs or so, lol, just to barely make it!)

Everything the ruling class was forced to share with the non-possessing class especially between 1950-1990, the ruling class now takes back again as they do not have to fear socialism anymore. The left of the west was destroyed with a carrot-and-stick policy: sticks against those who actually fight to increase the living standard of the people, carrot for open-border-fanatics (which the capitalists want to import cheap labor), SJW, feminists, etc. The current "left" basically has the function medieval monasteries and monks had in the dark ages: that of a build-in pseudo-opposition that is not so much opposed against poverty but opposed against people being rich: "Don’t drive a car! Don’t use an airplane to see other parts of the world! Don’t eat meat! Don’t enjoy politically incorrect jokes! Don’t enjoy your video games!" And so on.

Obviously, though, there are also issues with the orthodox left. Mainly in regards to women, of course. Michel Houellebecq wrote about how the "deregulation" of the sexual market has the same capitalist/monopolistic effects as the deregulation of the economic market:

"Just like unrestrained economic liberty, and for similar reasons, sexual liberty produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It’s what’s known as ‘the law of the market’. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally free economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally free sexual system some have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude."

This is why we need an anti-capitalist, anti-feminist ALT-LEFT rather than a shitty pro-capitalist, pro-cuckservative alt-right. Low-status men were always more oppressed in tradcuck societies than women. The other day, someone here wrote in another thread about "the left" that, quote:

This is the most cucked thing I've ever read. "I do not deserve a girlfriend because I'm ugly" is not as cucked as saying "I do deserve to die in the richest countries the world has ever seen because I'm a plumber or an electrician rather than the son of a CEO with five private yachts".

No one is as cucked as someone who supports capitalism despite not owning any capital himself.

We need to nuke this entire planet. That's faster.

 

[acnescarcel]

Not in mood to read this ever, but maybe count me in

 

[newlyawakened]

The alt right's white nationalist stance is a barrier to incel unity against the real enemy, the foid, given incels are heavily nonwhite.

 

[KFT]

The alt right's white nationalist stance is a barrier to incel unity against the real enemy, the foid, given incels are heavily nonwhite.

That sounds like bullshit, I'm pretty sure most incels are white.

 

[Akhnai]

socialism able to turn a backward peasant country that had been destroyed by a fascist world war into the first space power

Its not socialism that turns Russia into a major world power,its a socially conservative dictatorship under Stalin.

Look,friend,there is a reason why the anarchist syndicalist left in Republican Spain failed but the conservative,nationalist regimes of Yugoslavia and Soviet Union survived

That sounds like bullshit, I'm pretty sure most incels are white.

Thats bullshit,we have Just be white retards here for a reason,and that reason is because some 43% of people here are nonwhites getting mogged by white sex tourist scums

they have no understanding of materialism/metaphysics

Pretty bold for someone that believes in material dialecticism to accuse people of metaphysical ignorance

 

[Unhappy-Man]

National Socialism is good.
I think one of the main reasons the powers that be have flooded white countries with foreigners is because national socialism can only work for homogenous monoculture societies

 

[Deleted member 17724]

I'll support any movement that is openly against the Jews, regardless of what it calls itself.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Not today Communist. JFL. Anti-Capitalism but wants alt-left, just go from shithole to shithole bro !

Everything is as simple as removing all Jewish influence, restoring Nationalism and a basic Free Market.

Dont confuse modern day Jewish Capitalism with a natural Free Market.

And then things just naturally flow into place resulting in a stable society whilst also acknowledging racial capabilities and traits of each individual.

Fucking LOL at also having Karl Marx as a image too, quiet hypocritical and if he was alive he would be happy that you are an incel.

And for reference, the only Socialism that ever worked in pursuit of a nations needs is National Socialism.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Its always funny to watch leftycels try to argue against their inherent genetic subhumanity using outdated economic rhetoric from the 19th century. The man in your picture wanted to destroy the family unit, leading to you being an incel today. He's responsible for how shit your life is.

Origins of the Family. Chapter 2 (IV)

Origins of the Family: Chapter 2 (IV)

www.marxists.org

Leftycels deserve everything that is happening to them.

In all societies, in which women are or were oppressed by a tradcuck ruling class were low-status men oppressed even more harshly. Islam, for instance, is not right about women as it promotes literal harems and an inceldom for people whose only option is to blow themselves up to get 72 virgins in heaven. And generally speaking: the vast majority of men had been living in utmost poverty and misery before the workers' movement gained prominence. Mainly because of the workers’ movement was the ruling (and possessing) class eventually forced to share at least a LITTLE bit of their riches. Now the ruling class couldn’t simply rule alone anymore but had to fear strikes and uprisings, since all those without possessions (of factories, real estate, i.e. capital) had begun to organize under independently elected leaders. In their organizations, snitches, shills, concern trolls and the like were quickly removed.

The human condition is fundamentally a struggle for genetic continuation. Everything man has ever done has been to increase his chances at propagating himself. This means doing everything he can to have a mate. The workers strikes you speak off were organized by men who felt it would be better to lead an army of lower class men than to try and integrate into the existing power structure. They weren't doing it out of selflessness, but out of self interest. The lower classes were simply the battering ram used by them. They didn't care about the low status males in the end, as we have observed in countless mature lefty movements. Once they were in charge and had their reproductive access, they stopped caring. This is the modern left.

Out of fear of an even "worse" revolution of the non-possessing class, how it later actually occurred in Russia, the so-called "welfare state" came into existence: old-age pensions, accident insurance, employee health insurance, high-tariff policies to protect profits and wages from foreign competition, the 35.5 - 38-hour-week and the weekend itself. All according to the idea of "sacrifice a part to save the whole". The "welfare state" was not so much an invention of socialists but a tool to prevent a socialist revolution from happening. This was true for Bismarck's 19th century Germany as well as for the Western bloc during the Cold War.

Around the same time this was being pushed, feminism was also being introduced and promoted, usually by the same leftists. Indeed, feminism was a core component of leftism early on. The leftists at the time knew that if they could introduce women into the work environment, they could destroy the traditional building block of western civilization: the family unit. They saw the family unit as a roadblock to their wider goal of class based revolution. So they set out to destroy it.

The modern individual family is founded on the open or concealed domestic slavery of the wife, and modern society is a mass composed of these individual families as its molecules.

Russia was a backward agrarian state with 90% or so of the people being illiterate peasants with virtually no rights whatsoever when the Socialist Revolution happened. Later, Hitler (who was financed by the capitalists to destroy the unions) burned everything down. DESPITE ALL THAT was socialism able to turn a backward peasant country that had been destroyed by a fascist world war into the first space power and a country that was somewhat able to defend itself from the evil US empire.

It also catastrophically collapsed under its own internal inconsistencies in less then 100 years and still hasn't fully recovered. Contrast this with Nazi Germany, which came back from a similar position the west is in today, to being completely destroyed, to rebuilding and becoming a global power again. In under 50 years. Nazi Germany went from being a shithole in the early 30s to becoming a global power that required the other five great powers 6 years to defeat it.

But now that the capitalists have won the cold war, the welfare state is getting destroyed too. The idea that there still IS a lush welfare state is a fox news meme. Most people are now overworked but underpaid, horrified by the idea of losing the shitty jobs they have:

Majority of adults at 'breaking point' at work, study finds

NINE in 10 adults are close to “breaking point” at work. Research polling 2,000 professionals found the average working adult feels stressed for almost a third of their entire working d…

www.thesun.co.uk

(Capitalism has also made the single-income family impossible. The traditional family with the man as the sole breadwinner isn't even possible anymore in late-stage capitalism. Instead, it is more and more common that both partners have to work 2 jobs or so, lol, just to barely make it!)

See the leftist driven destruction of the family unit. By doubling the work force, you cut wages in half plus leave the children vulnerable. And a single family income is possible btw. Its just that women don't want to sacrifice their standard of living. They are too hypergamous for such a thing.

Everything the ruling class was forced to share with the non-possessing class especially between 1950-1990, the ruling class now takes back again as they do not have to fear socialism anymore. The left of the west was destroyed with a carrot-and-stick policy: sticks against those who actually fight to increase the living standard of the people, carrot for open-border-fanatics (which the capitalists want to import cheap labor), SJW, feminists, etc. The current "left" basically has the function medieval monasteries and monks had in the dark ages: that of a build-in pseudo-opposition that is not so much opposed against poverty but opposed against people being rich: "Don’t drive a car! Don’t use an airplane to see other parts of the world! Don’t eat meat! Don’t enjoy politically incorrect jokes! Don’t enjoy your video games!" And so on.

The left evolved once it got what it wanted: a seat at table. Leftist leaders, like all high status males, don't care about low status men. We are fodder for use in their games. The left became what it is today because they recognized that men like you and me were no longer needed to obtain power, as women had taken your place in the hierarchy. The left doesn't need to care about what happens to you because you are expendable.

Obviously, though, there are also issues with the orthodox left. Mainly in regards to women, of course. Michel Houellebecq wrote about how the "deregulation" of the sexual market has the same capitalist/monopolistic effects as the deregulation of the economic market:

"Just like unrestrained economic liberty, and for similar reasons, sexual liberty produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It’s what’s known as ‘the law of the market’. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally free economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally free sexual system some have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude."

This has always been true though. See the other thread about polygamy become common in other species amongst the females. Its biologically motivated. Surface issues like economics or capital distribution don't change this. The issue is that females are essentially obsolete in modern technological society. They cannot deal with the virtually unlimited amount of chad cock in their face.

This is why we need an anti-capitalist, anti-feminist ALT-LEFT rather than a shitty pro-capitalist, pro-cuckservative alt-right. Low-status men were always more oppressed in tradcuck societies than women. The other day, someone here wrote in another thread about "the left" that, quote:

This is the most cucked thing I've ever read. "I do not deserve a girlfriend because I'm ugly" is not as cucked as saying "I do deserve to die in the richest countries the world has ever seen because I'm a plumber or an electrician rather than the son of a CEO with five private yachts".

No one is as cucked as someone who supports capitalism despite not owning any capital himself.

Good luck with that leftycel. Also, the part about cuckoldry is funny. Nature has decided that you shouldn't get a girlfriend. That you shouldn't reproduce. There is nothing cucked about this. Its just the way evolution works. What's cucked is how you approach it. Female validation is an evolutionary response. You crave it because that means your genes get passed on. If you can pass on your genes with out a foid partner, that this validation need is irrational.

From the link above:

the peculiar character of the supremacy of the husband over the wife in the modern family, the necessity of creating real social equality between them, and the way to do it, will only be seen in the clear light of day when both possess legally complete equality of rights. Then it will be plain that the first condition for the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and that this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society.

 

[thespanishcel]

Well that's too bad for you, "alt-left" are basically antifas that think that beating you to death for being an incel is okay kek

 

[mlcurrycel]

@Big Yikes You have been added to my sig for being high IQ. Have you read Comunecel's thesis on Marxism Rodgerism?

 

[Big Yikes]

Have you read Comunecel's thesis on Marxism Rodgerism?

No, but I've read the term a couple of times. On reddit at least, there were a few people with similar views. Who is Comunecel? You gotta link?

 

[Princel]

do you all notice this liberal ideology infectin this forum?

i told you this would happen when those reddit faggots came here. first it starts with communist bullshit then it becomes not all women are bad then it becomes jews dindu nuffin. can we just ban these fags? they deep down support feminism and love femdom peggin.

 

[Deleted member 677]

 

[Kardacel]

do you all notice this liberal ideology infectin this forum?

i told you this would happen when those reddit faggots came here. first it starts with communist bullshit

Communism is anti-Liberal, Fascism is late-stage Liberalism. At least go neo-Absolutist if you're going to claim to be right wing & against Liberalism.

 

[tweak]

Its always funny to watch leftycels try to argue against their inherent genetic subhumanity using outdated economic rhetoric from the 19th century. The man in your picture wanted to destroy the family unit, leading to you being an incel today. He's responsible for how shit your life is.

Origins of the Family. Chapter 2 (IV)

Origins of the Family: Chapter 2 (IV)

www.marxists.org

Leftycels deserve everything that is happening to them.



The human condition is fundamentally a struggle for genetic continuation. Everything man has ever done has been to increase his chances at propagating himself. This means doing everything he can to have a mate. The workers strikes you speak off were organized by men who felt it would be better to lead an army of lower class men than to try and integrate into the existing power structure. They weren't doing it out of selflessness, but out of self interest. The lower classes were simply the battering ram used by them. They didn't care about the low status males in the end, as we have observed in countless mature lefty movements. Once they were in charge and had their reproductive access, they stopped caring. This is the modern left.



Around the same time this was being pushed, feminism was also being introduced and promoted, usually by the same leftists. Indeed, feminism was a core component of leftism early on. The leftists at the time knew that if they could introduce women into the work environment, they could destroy the traditional building block of western civilization: the family unit. They saw the family unit as a roadblock to their wider goal of class based revolution. So they set out to destroy it.





It also catastrophically collapsed under its own internal inconsistencies in less then 100 years and still hasn't fully recovered. Contrast this with Nazi Germany, which came back from a similar position the west is in today, to being completely destroyed, to rebuilding and becoming a global power again. In under 50 years. Nazi Germany went from being a shithole in the early 30s to becoming a global power that required the other five great powers 6 years to defeat it.




See the leftist driven destruction of the family unit. By doubling the work force, you cut wages in half plus leave the children vulnerable. And a single family income is possible btw. Its just that women don't want to sacrifice their standard of living. They are too hypergamous for such a thing.



The left evolved once it got what it wanted: a seat at table. Leftist leaders, like all high status males, don't care about low status men. We are fodder for use in their games. The left became what it is today because they recognized that men like you and me were no longer needed to obtain power, as women had taken your place in the hierarchy. The left doesn't need to care about what happens to you because you are expendable.



This has always been true though. See the other thread about polygamy become common in other species amongst the females. Its biologically motivated. Surface issues like economics or capital distribution don't change this. The issue is that females are essentially obsolete in modern technological society. They cannot deal with the virtually unlimited amount of chad cock in their face.



Good luck with that leftycel. Also, the part about cuckoldry is funny. Nature has decided that you shouldn't get a girlfriend. That you shouldn't reproduce. There is nothing cucked about this. Its just the way evolution works. What's cucked is how you approach it. Female validation is an evolutionary response. You crave it because that means your genes get passed on. If you can pass on your genes with out a foid partner, that this validation need is irrational.

From the link above:

Marx’s reasons for questioning the nuclear family were as follows:

Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality.

This isn’t entirely wrong, but the problematic aspect for incels is the “hierarchy” part. For incels to thrive women must be subjugated to some extent. I don’t think Marx could have envisioned the consequences of a society in which women have the level of power and choice they do now. If he time traveled to 2019, he’d probably observe that women’s sexual behavior works to reinforce class hierarchies.

 

[Deleted member 14866]

communism is low iq af

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Marx’s reasons for questioning the nuclear family were as follows:

Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality.

This isn’t entirely wrong, but the problematic aspect for incels is the “hierarchy” part. For incels to thrive women must be subjugated to some extent. I don’t think Marx could have envisioned the consequences of a society in which women have the level of power and choice they do now. If he time traveled to 2019, he’d probably observe that women’s sexual behavior works to reinforce class hierarchies.

The broader issue is that hierarchies are not actually bad, as he paints them to be. They are evolutionary measures. It is natural for power to consolidate into the hands of the few who can best make use of it. Evolution and marxism are in direct conflict here. Humans, like most primates, are hierarchical creatures. As far as passing down wealth via family, that is something every normal person should want to do. The biological reason for our existence is to propagate ourselves. The only way to achieve Marx's wish in this regard would be force parental uncertainty. That is, divorce parents from their children and randomize who gets which child. Which is a very primitive and shit way of doing things, hence why we evolved away from it.

As far as Marx envisioning the hell on earth he and his followers inflicted upon the world, I don't believe he would care all that much. Low status males like us have never been the primary consideration of people like him. We are unsatisfied? Too bad, its the new paradigm. The underpinning of all human behavior is a quest for sexual access to preferred mates. He knew that by undoing the family unit, he would be causing the crisis we are in today.

 

[Princel]

Communism is anti-Liberal, Fascism is late-stage Liberalism. At least go neo-Absolutist if you're going to claim to be right wing & against Liberalism.

fascism = traditional gender roles
liberalism -> socialism -> communism = feminism

feminism is because of fascists you guys always lie. ends justify the means, comrade??? or was it by deception we shall wage war?? same kike shit.

i think you and your comrades in this thread should gtfo this forum. you all done enough damage to the west with your retarded ideology.

 

[Kardacel]

fascism = traditional gender roles
liberalism -> socialism -> communism = feminism

feminism is because of fascists you guys always lie. ends justify the means, comrade??? or was it by deception we shall wage war?? same kike shit.

i think you and your comrades in this thread should gtfo this forum. you all done enough damage to the west with your retarded ideology.

How do you have monogamy in Capitalism? Do you not understand the social incentives under Capitalism are 100% hypergamous, everything is quantified, valued, it's all about status.

The fact you don't understand what Liberalism is just shows you've read 0 political theory and just get your ideas from forums, youtube & messageboards.

Also please define what "the west" is, I'd love that.

 

[Parrtlord]

tbh tbh

In all societies, in which women are or were oppressed by a tradcuck ruling class were low-status men oppressed even more harshly. Islam, for instance, is not right about women as it promotes literal harems and an inceldom for people whose only option is to blow themselves up to get 72 virgins in heaven. And generally speaking: the vast majority of men had been living in utmost poverty and misery before the workers' movement gained prominence. Mainly because of the workers’ movement was the ruling (and possessing) class eventually forced to share at least a LITTLE bit of their riches. Now the ruling class couldn’t simply rule alone anymore but had to fear strikes and uprisings, since all those without possessions (of factories, real estate, i.e. capital) had begun to organize under independently elected leaders. In their organizations, snitches, shills, concern trolls and the like were quickly removed.

Out of fear of an even "worse" revolution of the non-possessing class, how it later actually occurred in Russia, the so-called "welfare state" came into existence: old-age pensions, accident insurance, employee health insurance, high-tariff policies to protect profits and wages from foreign competition, the 35.5 - 38-hour-week and the weekend itself. All according to the idea of "sacrifice a part to save the whole". The "welfare state" was not so much an invention of socialists but a tool to prevent a socialist revolution from happening. This was true for Bismarck's 19th century Germany as well as for the Western bloc during the Cold War.

Russia was a backward agrarian state with 90% or so of the people being illiterate peasants with virtually no rights whatsoever when the Socialist Revolution happened. Later, Hitler (who was financed by the capitalists to destroy the unions) burned everything down. DESPITE ALL THAT was socialism able to turn a backward peasant country that had been destroyed by a fascist world war into the first space power and a country that was somewhat able to defend itself from the evil US empire.

But now that the capitalists have won the cold war, the welfare state is getting destroyed too. The idea that there still IS a lush welfare state is a fox news meme. Most people are now overworked but underpaid, horrified by the idea of losing the shitty jobs they have:

Majority of adults at 'breaking point' at work, study finds

NINE in 10 adults are close to “breaking point” at work. Research polling 2,000 professionals found the average working adult feels stressed for almost a third of their entire working d…

www.thesun.co.uk

(Capitalism has also made the single-income family impossible. The traditional family with the man as the sole breadwinner isn't even possible anymore in late-stage capitalism. Instead, it is more and more common that both partners have to work 2 jobs or so, lol, just to barely make it!)

Everything the ruling class was forced to share with the non-possessing class especially between 1950-1990, the ruling class now takes back again as they do not have to fear socialism anymore. The left of the west was destroyed with a carrot-and-stick policy: sticks against those who actually fight to increase the living standard of the people, carrot for open-border-fanatics (which the capitalists want to import cheap labor), SJW, feminists, etc. The current "left" basically has the function medieval monasteries and monks had in the dark ages: that of a build-in pseudo-opposition that is not so much opposed against poverty but opposed against people being rich: "Don’t drive a car! Don’t use an airplane to see other parts of the world! Don’t eat meat! Don’t enjoy politically incorrect jokes! Don’t enjoy your video games!" And so on.

Obviously, though, there are also issues with the orthodox left. Mainly in regards to women, of course. Michel Houellebecq wrote about how the "deregulation" of the sexual market has the same capitalist/monopolistic effects as the deregulation of the economic market:

"Just like unrestrained economic liberty, and for similar reasons, sexual liberty produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It’s what’s known as ‘the law of the market’. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally free economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally free sexual system some have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude."

This is why we need an anti-capitalist, anti-feminist ALT-LEFT rather than a shitty pro-capitalist, pro-cuckservative alt-right. Low-status men were always more oppressed in tradcuck societies than women. The other day, someone here wrote in another thread about "the left" that, quote:

This is the most cucked thing I've ever read. "I do not deserve a girlfriend because I'm ugly" is not as cucked as saying "I do deserve to die in the richest countries the world has ever seen because I'm a plumber or an electrician rather than the son of a CEO with five private yachts".

No one is as cucked as someone who supports capitalism despite not owning any capital himself.

high iq

 

[Princel]

How do you have monogamy in Capitalism? Do you not understand the social incentives under Capitalism are 100% hypergamous, everything is quantified, valued, it's all about status.

The fact you don't understand what Liberalism is just shows you've read 0 political theory and just get your ideas from forums, youtube & messageboards.

why do i need to read marx and all that gay shit to know communism is fuckin retarded? why cant i just look at todays countries in venezuela, cuba, north korea and all those other fucked up countries and see how much better my zionist occupied, crony capitalist government is better?

do i have to get a degree to know one car is more fucked up than the other?

you fuckin commies think bc you read books you know whats right but you weak bitches never worked a goddamn day in your life as a manual laborer. if you did you know laborers are right wing af and hate taxes and liberal ideology.

GTFO MY FORUM YOU SUBVERSIVE FAGGOT

 

[wizardcel]

I've never been given anything for free. And I don't expect that to start now. Besides, communists wanted to destroy traditional values because they saw the family uni as a fertile ground for capitalism. I'll never join communism.

 

[Kardacel]

why do i need to read marx and all that gay shit to know communism is fuckin retarded? why cant i just look at todays countries in venezuela, cuba, north korea and all those other fucked up countries and see how much better my zionist occupied, crony capitalist government is better?

do i have to get a degree to know one car is more fucked up than the other?

you fuckin commies think bc you read books you know whats right but you weak bitches never worked a goddamn day in your life as a manual laborer. if you did you know laborers are right wing af and hate taxes and liberal ideology.

GTFO MY FORUM YOU SUBVERSIVE FAGGOT

I am a blue collar worker.

You're calling Communism Liberalism again, JFL. You're brainwashed mate, go jack off to Hifler.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I hate the alt right, they are just maintaining the status quo. We need REAL change.

 

[FinnCel]

Seize the means of reproduction

 

[Big Yikes]

In all societies, in which women are or were oppressed by a tradcuck ruling class were low-status men oppressed even more harshly. Islam, for instance, is not right about women as it promotes literal harems and an inceldom for people whose only option is to blow themselves up to get 72 virgins in heaven.

Women love seeing men brutalizing other men:

They just LOVE it when men stab each other in the back (literally or figuratively) in order to win women's approval. Men are like slaves in an arena then: supposed to destroy each other in order to win a woman's approval. They love male disposability.

What they HATE is seeing men having each other's back and bringing down female supremacy.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

How do you have monogamy in Capitalism? Do you not understand the social incentives under Capitalism are 100% hypergamous, everything is quantified, valued, it's all about status.

The fact you don't understand what Liberalism is just shows you've read 0 political theory and just get your ideas from forums, youtube & messageboards.

Also please define what "the west" is, I'd love that.

I encorage you to read about the sexual libertines in the early USSR right after the October Revolution. Loads of whores and single mothers, bastard children everywhere. They even had nude slut walks too. They had to reverse course due to how damaging it was to the fabric of society.

www.rbth.com/history/328265-russian-sexual-revolution/amp

Rest assured lefty, your ideas led to what we have today. Read less theory and more history.

 

[Princel]

I am a blue collar worker.

workin in your college as a barista doesnt count

You're calling Communism Liberalism again, JFL. You're brainwashed mate, go jack off to Hifler.

liberals lead to socialism which always leads to communism. therefore liberal fag shit is the gateway to communism

kill yoruself

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I encorage you to read about the sexual libertines in the early USSR right after the October Revolution. Loads of whores and single mothers, bastard children everywhere. They even had nude slut walks too. They had to reverse course due to how damaging it was to the fabric of society.

www.rbth.com/history/328265-russian-sexual-revolution/amp

Rest assured lefty, your ideas led to what we have today. Read less theory and more history.

Also notice only 20% of men had STDs. 80/20 rule?

 

[Kardacel]

I encorage you to read about the sexual libertines in the early USSR right after the October Revolution. Loads of whores and single mothers, bastard children everywhere. They even had nude slut walks too. They had to reverse course due to how damaging it was to the fabric of society.

www.rbth.com/history/328265-russian-sexual-revolution/amp

Rest assured lefty, your ideas led to what we have today. Read less theory and more history.

Marxists have never been pro-prostitution, prostitutes are labour deserters and contribute nothing to the national economy. They are parasites on the rations of the workers.

"The posters read: "Every communist male can and must satisfy his sexual needs" (right); "Every communist female must aid him, otherwise she's a philistine."

Your own article debunks your argument dude.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Marxists have never been pro-prostitution, prostitutes are labour deserters and contribute nothing to the national economy. They are parasites on the rations of the workers.

"The posters read: "Every communist male can and must satisfy his sexual needs" (right); "Every communist female must aid him, otherwise she's a philistine."

Your own article debunks your argument dude.

Learn to read lefty. I didn't mention prostitutes, only whores and single mothers. Which were so common the government needed to reverse course. And the poster is meaningless propaganda. Same with the free love bullshit of the 60s. Read the article about what actually happened. Lots of sexually liberated single mothers with bastard children. Sluts walking naked down the street. Exactly what we have today. Females likely all haram'd around the top males like they do today as well. Do you support fatherless children/children being property of the state as well?

Feminism, female empowerment, and the destruction of the family are core tenants of your ideology. They always have been. Stop fucking denying it and own it.

 

[Kardacel]

Learn to read lefty. I didn't mention prostitutes, only whores and single mothers. Which were so common the government needed to reverse course. And the poster is meaningless propaganda. Same with the free love bullshit of the 60s. Read the article about what actually happened. Lots of sexually liberated single mothers with bastard children. Sluts walking naked down the street. Exactly what we have today. Females likely all haram'd around the top males like they do today as well. Do you support fatherless children/children being property of the state as well?

Feminism, female empowerment, and the destruction of the family are core tenants of your ideology. They always have been. Stop fucking denying it and own it.

I don't care what women wear as long as hypergamy is destroyed.

Please tell me how there are "sluts and bastard children everywhere" in DPRK.

Feminism doesn't mean "let's all be sluts", many aspects of true feminism are opposed to modern day hypergamy.

A state owned by the workers should have a say in the parentage of children, it's in the national interest. Society should not bear the burden of bad parenting.

You constantly conflate Marxism & actual Leftism with the Liberal left, they could not be more different, please answer this honestly, have you ever read any actual Marxist literature?

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Feminism doesn't mean "let's all be sluts", many aspects of true feminism are opposed to modern day hypergamy.

There it is. Feminism builds on itself. Even the very first wave "true" feminism was wrong. Females have a monopoly on life creation. That gives them enough power already. Anything else enables their hypergamy.

I don't care what women wear as long as they aren't hypergamous.

Hypergamy is genetic. Its older than mankind itself. It cannot be stopped, only violently controlled via society. Hypergamy is the natural female imperative to weed out genetically unfit males.

Please tell me how there are "sluts and bastard children everywhere" in DPRK.

How would you know for sure?

Tell me how there were sluts and bastard in any of the European fascist states. Especially Francoist Spain.

You constantly conflate Marxism & actual Leftism with the Liberal left, they could not be more different, please answer this honestly, have you ever read any actual Marxist literature?

Yes. Destroying the family as the basic unit of society is straight from the manifesto. Trotsky also talked about it in "From the Old Family to the New". There are hundreds of interpretations of marxism. This is similar to a christan saying that "it wasn't real christianity".

Since I'm dealing with a lefty, may you identify what kind of leftism you identify with?

A state owned by the workers should have a say in the parentage of children, it's in the national interest. Society should not bear the burden of bad parenting.

A state can be "owned" by whoever. That doesn't mean the power of the state is owned by said workers. Its power owned by whoever is the most manipulative. Who can decieve and lie the best. You will taking your child raising orders from these techocrats, not from the "workers" or the broader proletariat. In a democratic system, the people with highest chance of election are those who can manipulate the most. Not the most qualified.

 

[Deleted member 17419]

Capitalism is based on merit

JFL neck yourself retard.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Alt-Left and incel? Lul at u

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_in_the_Soviet_Union


https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1972/7/18/living-married-in-the-ussr-pyoung/
According to this article, marriages barely lasted at all in the USSR

meaning that monogamy was not an incentive

thus meaning that degeenracy was still rampent

imagine marrying at 19 and divorcing at 23


https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/shaw/works/guide3.htm

the marxist perspective on the institution of monogamy

 

[Kardacel]

Since I'm dealing with a lefty, may you identify what kind of leftism you identify with?

I'm just Orthodox Marxist, I adopt the economic analysis (Kapital) & dialectical materialism, social views are not defined under that label.

A state can be "owned" by whoever. That doesn't mean the power of the state is owned by said workers. Its power owned by whoever is the most manipulative. Who can decieve and lie the best. You will taking your child raising orders from these techocrats,

Again this stems from a lack of understanding about Marxism. Marxism views societal organization, social relations & class relations as a historical process. It doesn't matter what is in the mind of any group or one person, this is just assuming metaphysics, the workers acquire power not via a 'will to power' but via the resolution of structural conflicts in society.

If I make & sell widgets for $1 then my profit is $1:1 (sale), a technological/organisational advancement is then made and I can now produce widgets twice as fast, the supply is doubled, widgets now cost $0.50, in order to make $1 I now need to sell 2 widgets. $1:2. This is called the tendency for the rate of profit to fall and it's the main economic contradiction within Capitalism.

The rate of profit falls further the more productive we are, every business owner wants to reduce labour costs and the main way this is done is by reducing employee wages yet they also want to sell products for the highest price possible, this is a structural contradiction and eventually it will be ran to a point of collapse when the consumers (workers) are unable to afford the products they produce.

Capitalism will collapse not by any "will to power" or any intentional, targeted actions, not by any beaurocrat, technocrat or politicians, it will collapse because it has advanced through the material stages of quantitative & qualitative change. This is why any Leftist will prescribe their strategy for revolution on the basis of understanding the material conditions of society.

If you think you can just get in government and order/design society in any way you see fit you are thinking like a child.

Governments do not prescribe to society, they just pretend to, society & government is at the mercy of the dialectical process.

It's not just an accident or an idea someone had that our history should be primitivism > feudalism > colonialism > capitalism. There are like actual reasons these things happen the way they do dude. It's not just someone's mindful intention that we are now ruled by politicians instead of kings or tribal chiefs. When these contradictions are fully resolved the workers will be in full control because there will be no other class of rulers.

1938: Dialectical and Historical Materialism

www.marxists.org

In a democratic system, the people with highest chance of election are those who can manipulate the most. Not the most qualified.

I do not want a Democratic system apart from Democracy in the workplace, Democracy is Liberalism.

Yes. Destroying the family as the basic unit of society is straight from the manifesto. Trotsky also talked about it in "From the Old Family to the New". There are hundreds of interpretations of marxism. This is similar to a christan saying that "it wasn't real christianity".

The manifesto is a complete joke and everyone knows that, there aren't hundreds of interpretations either, there is one interpretation and many strategies by which to engage in class war & revolution. Once again, demonstrating your complete lack of any research/knowledge on the subject.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Marx’s reasons for questioning the nuclear family were as follows:

Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality.

This isn’t entirely wrong, but the problematic aspect for incels is the “hierarchy” part. For incels to thrive women must be subjugated to some extent. I don’t think Marx could have envisioned the consequences of a society in which women have the level of power and choice they do now. If he time traveled to 2019, he’d probably observe that women’s sexual behavior works to reinforce class hierarchies.

High IQ, added to sig

No, but I've read the term a couple of times. On reddit at least, there were a few people with similar views. Who is Comunecel? You gotta link?

 

[Big Yikes]

High IQ, added to sig

Thanks! Will check it out. Haven't heard of that sub before.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Seize the means of reproduction

During the Industrial Revolution, the agrarian extended family broke down as the cities swelled with uneducated hopeless penniless workers. These people were bad parents who couldn’t raise kids without the support found in a family farm. There were lots of out of wedlock births as well, degeneracy, etc.

An industrialist named Owens created a factory town where kids were raised in communal playgrounds instead of following their overworked mother or making trouble on the streets. This sounds bad in post-60s west but back then it was the best form of parenting.

Marxists back then decided that since feudalism was dead and capitalism was destroying families in front of their eyes, that communal playgrounds and women in the workplace was the inevitable future. They decided to look on the bright side of it and planned on improving it.

low value males were told the reason they couldn’t get pussy like theirgrandparents on the farm used to was because the rich were hoarding all the money and fucking all the women.

working class Chads were told that under free love,walking incubators would no longer be chained to husbands, and that there would be NO DIVORCE LAWS because of NO MARRIAGE

Women were told that they would be ‘liberated’ from the financial incentives to fuck sub 8 males.

Marxist economic theory is right about capitalism. It is bluepilled about women. Marx’s wife was seemingly a NAWALT unicorn (or he had a big dick) and Engels was a rich fuckboi who fell in love with various prostitutes of his.

we need a combination of Marxism and Incel Blackpills. We need Marxism Rodgerism.

 

[Kardacel]

Marxist economic theory is right about capitalism. It is bluepilled about women.

Marxism is just neutral, it's an analysis, mainly of economics.

If you want equally distributed relationships then you just need to add an addition.

You need Marxism with incel characteristics.