[Serious] Were Elliot Rodger's social skills really that bad?

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Every mainstream media narrative and normie narrative was that ER severely lacked the ability to communicate with women. And "this was his downfall".

They love taking the clip of him in his car awkwardly discussing his final plans, as if that somehow proves that he was awkward his entire life (See 1:06 of ABC's propaganda video below).

Do incels really buy into this narrative? I certainly don't.

Adam Lanza oth, now THERE was a guy that was utterly socially hopeless imo.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJc234jkJ2w&ab_channel=ABCNews
 
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>Were Elliot Rodger's social skills really that bad?

Nigga did you not read his manifesto where he talks about playing WOW all day
 
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Social skills are cope
 
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If you read his manifesto, it's clear that he had social skill issues, (mostly stemming from his ugliness though)
 
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If you read his manifesto, it's clear that he had social skill issues, (mostly stemming from his ugliness though)
I've never read it. All I'd seen was video footage of him speaking, and there was nothing glaringly bad in that.
 
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It should be, he was lower tier normie, and also rich
 
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He wasn't good looking and he also was a voicecel. Seriously that's one of the first thing normies mock ER about when he's brought up. His "gay" voice.
 
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You can see the trajectory of his downward spiral in his manifesto. He seemed to be accepted to some degree as a child, but the closer he got to puberty, the more he had to cope. He does the peroxide hair gimmick, full blonde, in a last ditch effort to make the threshold for social acceptance in his tween years. After that, didn't matter how bad he was socially.
 
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He wasn't good looking and he also was a voicecel. Seriously that's one of the first thing normies mock ER about when he's brought up. His "gay" voice.
I didn't think his voice or looks were THAT bad.

I mean obviously he was no Chad, but again, compared to someone like Adam Lanza?
 
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I didn't think his voice or looks were THAT bad.

I mean obviously he was no Chad, but again, compared to someone like Adam Lanza?
For a hypergamous place like a big college in California it wasn't good enough apparently.

But more than his looks I see his voice getting made fun of all the time. When I first saw a video of him speaking I thought it was one of those meme or youtube poop videos where they put on weird sounding voices to act funny. Brutal.
 
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I didn't think his voice or looks were THAT bad.

I mean obviously he was no Chad, but again, compared to someone like Adam Lanza?
In a different life, Adam Lanza is that skelly stoner lanklet that eats a full pizza but never gains weight and disappears after getting a fat girl pregnant.
 
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In a different life, Adam Lanza is that skelly stoner lanklet that eats a full pizza but never gains weight and disappears after getting a fat girl pregnant.
Lol

If he would've moved out of his mom's house, maybe he could have turned things around.

The guy had serious issues

but to kill your own mother, I mean jfc
 
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I've never read it. All I'd seen was video footage of him speaking, and there was nothing glaringly bad in that.
Autistic people can be excellent at making monologue, as in a video vlog, speech, or book, but what determines social skills is your competence at dialogue.
 
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Every mainstream media narrative and normie narrative was that ER severely lacked the ability to communicate with women. And "this was his downfall".

They love taking the clip of him in his car awkwardly discussing his final plans, as if that somehow proves that he was awkward his entire life (See 1:06 of ABC's propaganda video below).

Do incels really buy into this narrative? I certainly don't.

Adam Lanza oth, now THERE was a guy that was utterly socially hopeless imo.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJc234jkJ2w&ab_channel=ABCNews
At 2:13 he looked high tier normie. Why couldn't he use that pic on Tinder profile?, he'd get matches
 
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At 2:13 he looked high tier normie. Why couldn't he use that pic on Tinder profile?, he'd get matches
The goal is not to get matches, or imaginary internet points, but actually get sex or establish a relationship, and frauding too much can have disastrous consequences as the gulf between reality and your pretensions increases.
 
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At 2:13 he looked high tier normie. Why couldn't he use that pic on Tinder profile?, he'd get matches
He was decent looking.

As a previous commenter said, I think geography played a part. He was surrounded by California gigachads.
 
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He was decent looking.
He was highly neotenous, which is typical of Asians and autists, and which does not viscerally attract women.

ER's evolutionary course to success would have been leveraging his verbal intelligence to establish a career and then betabuxx. He could have actually pulled this off with some dignity, given the media connections he had through his father, but I do not discount his autistic struggle to fit in and understand himself in the world (especially a chaotic, liberal soyciety like ours).
 
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I made a post relevant to this thread topic recently:

I have actually seen Elliot Rodger described as a good speaker and even charismatic. But a high verbal IQ is a trait of Asperger's Syndrome, and whether or not narcissistic strategies of ingratiation are successful depends largely on physical characteristics (shall one say: Adolf Hitler's piercing, light eyes?).
Elliot Rodger clearly did not have physical features that could justify his narcissism, and his autistic intellect had no outlet in which to be recognized in a liberal party campus environment, so he suffered as a result.

In a different life, Adam Lanza is that skelly stoner lanklet that eats a full pizza but never gains weight and disappears after getting a fat girl pregnant.
Adam Lanza had autism with severe OCD, and was highly touch sensitive. He would almost certainly be posting here with Classic Banana Dark theme if he were still alive. He did regularly post on an edgy forum with a dark theme, after all, and was avid about child pornography, JFL.
 
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For befriending guys, no his social skills were below average but not terrible, he was able to get some male friends.
For befriending and dating foids, his social skills were bad because he got mentally scared by a foid in 7th grade.
Either way it shouldn't matter as foids rejected him for looking like a ricecel.
 
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He was highly neotenous, which is typical of Asians and autists, and which does not viscerally attract women.

ER's evolutionary course to success would have been leveraging his verbal intelligence to establish a career and then betabuxx. He could have actually pulled this off with some dignity, given the media connections he had through his father, but I do not discount his autistic struggle to fit in and understand himself in the world (especially a chaotic, liberal soyciety like ours).
I agree. If anyone needed to betabux, it was ER

But his dad, being a rich chad, probably made things look so much easier than they really were
 
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For some reason I kind of doubt that his social skills were super bad. I think he wrote that he even held a couple jobs, one at LAX as a janny or some shit. Similar to my downfall, I feel like that he just eventually became more and more ostracized by his peers as they were lookist and realized that he didn't fit the bill. Not to mention he grew up around rich little shits in a wealthy part of California. I bet you'd have to be at least an 8 in that area to get a girl in Elliot's old turf.
Adam Lanza oth, now THERE was a guy that was utterly socially hopeless imo.
Lanza was severely autistic and had bad social issues that were never worked on, dude was a truecel tbh.
 
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He did have bad social skills but it wasn't because of autism, it was because of all the bullying he went through during his younger years (due to being very short as a kid plus hapa) which stunted his social development and made him turn into an introverted WoW addict.
 
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He did have bad social skills but it wasn't because of autism, it was because of all the bullying he went through during his younger years (due to being very short as a kid plus hapa) which stunted his social development and made him turn into an introverted WoW addict.
And he was bullied in part for his autism.
 
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I've never read it.
Bro how can you make threads like this when you haven't read his manifesto? That guy has shit social skills. Classic mentalcel.
 
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If we take things one by one then Saint Elliot seems like an okay guy. Just misunderstood. Could even pass for a normie on certain days.
But after reading his manifesto and all the bullying he was subjected to in his youth it honestly makes perfect sense why he would hate the world so much he opted to murder people. He was short. His dad was a fuckboi. His mom and sister were sluts. He was mixed. He was mercilessly bullied in school. All around him were people partying and partaking in everything he was never allowed to participate in. And there was nothing but gorgeous 8/10+ girls around him at all times. It'd drive any man insane and want to do harmful things.

His social skills were borderline shit. He tried to mimic people (as most of us have surely tried in our lifetime as well) and failed at every possible turn. When he tried to "be himself" it just alienated him more. He tried every avenue and was cut off every which way he went. He literally asked for help plenty of times but nobody took him seriously. Until it was too late.
 
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And he was bullied in part for his autism.
How do you know that he was autistic and not just socially awkward due to being bullied for his manletism and being a hapa? he was never diagnosed with autism.
 
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How do you know that he was autistic and not just socially awkward due to being bullied for his manletism and being a hapa? he was never diagnosed with autism.
Yes, he was diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder: PDD-NOS.
 
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I read Rodger's manifesto. He definitely had severe problems interacting with people -specially at parties. But otherwise during everyday conversations he was just mildly socially inept. I used to have Asperger's syndrome as well until I turned 24 and it magically dissapeared [strange and painful to go through] and I used to be almost as fucked up as him. The worst part is not knowing if what you have to say will ofend everyone else. Feels like being dragged underwater by a wave not knowing where is up and where is down, so you just swim in circles confused.

The other day my uncle was getting remarried to a single mom (betabux, lol) and during the wedding they served breads as entrees and I really liked the bread so I asked him if that was going to be the main dish. Turns out the real main dish was salmon, so he became pissed because he thought I was making fun of his "muh" money / status. I know. Normies take everything as a personal attack to their status.

If you are ever confused about why normies behave or react in a certain way, it is almost always related to status. For these disgusting creatures everything is about social status. Status is king.
 
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I used to have Asperger's syndrome as well until I turned 24 and it magically dissapeared [strange and painful to go through]
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Yet you still make social faux pas?
 
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I read Rodger's manifesto. He definitely had severe problems interacting with people -specially at parties. But otherwise during everyday conversations he was just mildly socially inept. I used to have Asperger's syndrome as well until I turned 24 and it magically dissapeared [strange and painful to go through] and I used to be almost as fucked up as him. The worst part is not knowing if what you have to say will ofend everyone else. Feels like being dragged underwater by a wave not knowing where is up and where is down, so you just swim in circles confused.

The other day my uncle was getting remarried to a single mom (betabux, lol) and during the wedding they served breads as entrees and I really liked the bread so I asked him if that was going to be the main dish. Turns out the real main dish was salmon, so he became pissed because he thought I was making fun of his "muh" money / status. I know. Normies take everything as a personal attack to their status.

If you are ever confused about why normies behave or react in a certain way, it is almost always related to status. For these disgusting creatures everything is about social status. Status is king.
Lol. Great story. I've had so many similar moments.

Normies do love their status.
 
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Yet you still make social faux pas?
That was during the transition period. Nowadays I rarely make social mistakes and I can judge status properly, but nevertheless I am still relatively introverted and almost socially apathetic, although I expect things will improve soon.
 
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Yes, he was diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder: PDD-NOS.
I've read his entire manifesto and watched all videos related to him and there was no mention at all of that diagnosis.

there are many articles about him as well stating that he wasn't autistic.
 
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That was during the transition period. Nowadays I rarely make social mistakes and I can judge status properly, but nevertheless I am still relatively introverted and almost socially apathetic, although I expect things will improve soon.
You still have autism tbhngl, it's just that you're masking it better.
 
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I've read his entire manifesto and watched all videos related to him and there was no mention at all of that diagnosis.

there are many articles about him as well stating that he wasn't autistic.
 
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Autism is correlated with bad social skills. He was an introvert and he was imitating, copying people around him even when he talks about girls. His mimics weren't realistic.
 
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Autism is correlated with bad social skills. He was an introvert and he was imitating, copying people around him even when he talks about girls. His mimics weren't realistic.
Autism + narcissism in a nutshell. Brutal shit ngl.
 
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I agree. If anyone needed to betabux, it was ER

But his dad, being a rich chad, probably made things look so much easier than they really were
In his manifesto he mentioned several times how his only way to ascend was to get rich. He pretty much accepted his betabux destiny.