that’s all determined by the individual incel and their knowledge of and comfort in their own sexuality
It really isn't, if you go out of your way to involve other men in your sex acts, you are probably closeted or bi
I'm not talking about some happenstance scenario some Chads might land themselves in where a girl is willing to do both friends and they just go along with it in the moment because they just want to get laid
If you are an incel, by yourself, with money and you
GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to involve other men in your sex acts its not remotely the same thing as the above scenario, you are literally
FORCING A SCENARIO into existence, meaning
YOU WANTED OTHER MEN THERE
All this "comfort in your sexuality" is some leftist feminist sounding BS
Its ironically the same shit men who get fucked with strapons by women say all the time - "I'm comfortable with my sexuality, I know I'm straight................... that's why I can do gay shit and know it won't change me"
They don't see the irony that
NOTHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, if you want to do shit like that to begin with
YOU ARE ALREADY NOT COMPLETELY STRAIGHT
Question: If you create a live action orgy to watch and or participate in for yourself how for example does that make you anymore a fag than watching your standard boy/girl porn scene?
1. Why the fuck are you paying just to watch, it literally makes no sense, take the watch part out, paying to watch already sounds like you have some kind of cuck fetish and its weird that you keep saying this over and over like its something to want
2. Watching porn because you can't afford to pay for sex, and literally paying another man to fuck a woman infront of you are obviously completely different, and if you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you lol, it would just seem like you are trying to normalize and justify your cuck fetishism
There's a difference between not being able to have
AND
Being able to have but going out of your way to deny yourself it
Its obvious cuck fetishism, to go out of your way when you have a chance to have sex and include other men or even exclude yourself to watch (again its weird that you keep bringing up just watching as if its something normal like you are trying to convince yourself)
3. Again, you aren't being specific, who are the participants in the orgy, if its all female it definitely isn't homoerotic or gay in any sense, if its males and females its definitely gay, it isn't "more gay" than a porn scene because those porn scenes aren't gay to begin with, nobody watching porn is going out of their way to see guys in porn, they want to see a woman get fucked because that's the only sexual stimulation they can have access to, if they had to means to have sex they would not watch porn
Answer: it doesn’t so long as you don’t find yourself secretly wishing you were the girl and on your knees spit shining another man’s cock instead of her or in the girl’s place when she’s getting skewered and slammed repeatedly in all available holes from a bunch of guys.
View: https://youtu.be/J3UyjlaBMcY
That shit came out of nowhere and either way I'm done arguing this lol