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That is the tagline for r/IncelTears, of course.
Other posters have pointed out that, in fact, many world-class misogynists were also highly successful with women. In fact, that's sort of what being a womanizer entails -- seeing women as ultimately disposable, interchangeable objects through which a man secures validation and pleasure for himself. The ability to attract or charm any individual woman does not require having any particular view of women in general.
However, to come at this from a slightly different angle, I wonder how many r/IT users believe that women shouldn't hate men if they want to get laid? I'm guessing zero, because the idea is prima facie ridiculous. Firstly, if you're a woman then you can do anything and still get laid, or get in a relationship, or whatever you want. That should be obvious across the IQ and -pill spectra.
What proportion of 18-35 year old women do you suppose believes, or entertains, one or more of the following notions?
So what we see here is an assumed double standard in the mainstream attitude to dating that suggests a man should be content with whatever he can get. If that means some angry, enervated, febrile woman who nurses a hatred for a core and unchangeable aspect of his identity, then so be it. He, meanwhile, must always be on his best behaviour and be sure never to have the "wrong" opinion about something lest his dating life disappear by magic into the ether. Once you acknowledge that double standard, as r/IT has, surely others aren't far to seek...
Or maybe r/IT and their ilk are secretly just as blackpilled as we are. They know that the retarded shit, cribbed third-hand from a retweet, that comes out of a woman's mouth isn't to be taken seriously. It's just some ill-considered, posturing bon mot she thought would make her sound cool and she never expected to be called out on it. Obnoxious, shallow, vain, unserious, self-interested, masking a lockstep conformity in a thin shroud of intellectual curiosity... yet ultimately pretty harmless: that's a view of women I could get behind...
Other posters have pointed out that, in fact, many world-class misogynists were also highly successful with women. In fact, that's sort of what being a womanizer entails -- seeing women as ultimately disposable, interchangeable objects through which a man secures validation and pleasure for himself. The ability to attract or charm any individual woman does not require having any particular view of women in general.
However, to come at this from a slightly different angle, I wonder how many r/IT users believe that women shouldn't hate men if they want to get laid? I'm guessing zero, because the idea is prima facie ridiculous. Firstly, if you're a woman then you can do anything and still get laid, or get in a relationship, or whatever you want. That should be obvious across the IQ and -pill spectra.
What proportion of 18-35 year old women do you suppose believes, or entertains, one or more of the following notions?
- "Men are trash", "men are pigs", etc..
- Men displaying the masculine traits that come naturally to them is "toxic masculinity" and is a problem in society.
- Women are, in general, "better" than men at most things.
- Men are very likely, or probable, to commit rape or other acts of sexual abuse/harassment in the "right" circumstances.
- Social ill x can be blamed entirely on men -- whether that be war, mass shootings, violent crime, there not being enough space on the subway, etc..
- Men should be held collectively responsible for any problem, disadvantage, or inequality women feel they experience as a group in the present day.
So what we see here is an assumed double standard in the mainstream attitude to dating that suggests a man should be content with whatever he can get. If that means some angry, enervated, febrile woman who nurses a hatred for a core and unchangeable aspect of his identity, then so be it. He, meanwhile, must always be on his best behaviour and be sure never to have the "wrong" opinion about something lest his dating life disappear by magic into the ether. Once you acknowledge that double standard, as r/IT has, surely others aren't far to seek...
Or maybe r/IT and their ilk are secretly just as blackpilled as we are. They know that the retarded shit, cribbed third-hand from a retweet, that comes out of a woman's mouth isn't to be taken seriously. It's just some ill-considered, posturing bon mot she thought would make her sound cool and she never expected to be called out on it. Obnoxious, shallow, vain, unserious, self-interested, masking a lockstep conformity in a thin shroud of intellectual curiosity... yet ultimately pretty harmless: that's a view of women I could get behind...
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