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A lot of the time it's absolutely constant intrusive thoughts which don't go away until I fap. But what I mean specifically is that I can't stop feeling like if I got to have sex just once, that somehow I'd feel at least reasonably better, that it would improve my life somehow. Yet I don't think that this even makes sense, there are users on this site who have had sex with a prostitute for example, but still feel the need to post here, clearly it doesn't help them that much. I hate my libido, I really do.

Tbh I can't even imagine actually having sex, the idea doesn't even seem real to me, like something which could really happen to me. Every time I'm reminded of it by my own urges, I'm then inevitably remained that I'm a virgin at 26, that I'm an unwanted reject, that I'll never be normal, that I'll have to just cope with this forever, and then I begin to start feeling terrible about myself again. I can't even distract myself from this, because my own body reminds me daily. It's genuinely unending emotional torment. I haven't watched real porn for years, because doing so would only exacerbate the issue, I had to make myself stop. It didn't used to be this bad for me either, but as I've aged the feelings of alienation and hopelessness have grown far stronger.
 
Imo you can't unless ironically enough you have sex regularly enough that you can afford not to think about it.

If you really want to have sex at least once then escortcelling in countries other than the US where it is legal and you can get attractive women for a reasonable price is an option.
 
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i have the same thought.life is horrible.
 
Imo you can't unless ironically enough you have sex regularly enough that you can afford not to think about it.

If you really want to have sex at least once then escortcelling in countries like the US where it is legal and you can get attractive women for a reasonable price is an option.
I assume you meant outside the US, but honestly I doubt that would even help unless I could afford to do it a lot. That's the most ridiculous part, I obsess over the fact that I'm a virgin, yet I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't feel much better even if I weren't. I'd just move the goalpost, because ultimately the problem actually stems from my memory of past experiences. At most it would help a little I imagine, but it's not like I'd just be satisfied with getting sex once. Regardless it's not an option for me currently anyway.
life is horrible.
It is tbh.
 
I assume you meant outside the US, but honestly I doubt that would even help unless I could afford to do it a lot. That's the most ridiculous part, I obsess over the fact that I'm a virgin, yet I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't feel much better even if I weren't. I'd just move the goalpost, because ultimately the problem actually stems from my memory of past experiences. At most it would help a little I imagine, but it's not like I'd just be satisfied with getting sex once. Regardless it's not an option for me currently anyway.

It is tbh.

Yeah I meant to type "other than the US" not "like the US".
I was only suggesting that option if you really did want to have sex at least once because it is a straightforward way of doing that.
If the problem stems from your memory past experiences there is little you can do because those experiences have shaped who you are today and trying to forget or move past them means you could make the same mistakes and open yourself up to be used in the future.
 
Yeah I meant to type "other than the US" not "like the US".
I was only suggesting that option if you really did want to have sex at least once because it is a straightforward way of doing that.
If the problem stems from your memory past experiences there is little you can do because those experiences have shaped who you are today and trying to forget or move past them means you could make the same mistakes and open yourself up to be used in the future.
Maybe if I can save money I'll try that in the future. But the thing is, when I think about it, I can't come up with a reason why I'd feel better afterwards. It's irrational, yet despite me being fully aware that the thoughts are irrational, that doesn't seem to help at all.

I really hate this shit.
 
Maybe if I can save money I'll try that in the future. But the thing is, when I think about it, I can't come up with a reason why I'd feel better afterwards. It's irrational, yet despite me being fully aware that the thoughts are irrational, that doesn't seem to help at all.

I really hate this shit.

I think it is pretty irrational for people to suggest going to a prostitute as if that will cure any problems you have had with women.
Also from what I heard once you go to a prostitute you will be hooked on doing it again to get the same feeling that masturbation cannot provide. It becomes an endless cycle of chasing once you get a better idea of what you are missing.

This world as it exists really wasn't meant for sexless males to live in and so we cannot really find a purpose beyond just existing but that is the lesser of evils compared to being sent to war to die or being put to work in hard labor like in the past.
 
It’s really to picture myself having sex too. Something tells me that it’s probably overrated
 
I think it is pretty irrational for people to suggest going to a prostitute as if that will cure any problems you have had with women.
Also from what I heard once you go to a prostitute you will be hooked on doing it again to get the same feeling that masturbation cannot provide. It becomes an endless cycle of chasing once you get a better idea of what you are missing.
I've thought about that too, logically it makes sense, and that's probably what would happen to me. If not that, then I'd reaffirm what I already know, that my thoughts are indeed irrational.

The only thing I've found which helps destroy my sex drive is barely eating food, jfl. At which point the desire for sex is simply replaced with hunger, and I feel tired all the time, but at least hunger doesn't have negative emotions associated with it for me. Maybe I'll start starvationmaxxing again.
This world as it exists really wasn't meant for sexless males to live in and so we cannot really find a purpose beyond just existing but that is the lesser of evils compared to being sent to war to die or being put to work in hard labor like in the past.
I wouldn't mind eating a bullet at this point tbh, seems better than this.
 
I've thought about that too, logically it makes sense, and that's probably what would happen to me. If not that, then I'd reaffirm what I already know, that my thoughts are indeed irrational.

The only thing I've found which helps destroy my sex drive is barely eating food, jfl. At which point the desire for sex is simply replaced with hunger, and I feel tired all the time, but at least hunger doesn't have negative emotions associated with it for me. Maybe I'll start starvationmaxxing again.

Yeah that and staying awake can kill your sex drive but comes at negative cost to your long term health.
I have tried both and it really just made things worse overall but compared to drugs it was the less worse coping option.

I wouldn't mind eating a bullet at this point tbh, seems better than this.
As much as life feels like a drawn out movie that never ends at this point and you are continuously tortured every day despite learning "the moral of the story" if there is one in life, I would caution against this kind of acceptance.

I remember when the FOSTA ban on prostitues was announced some people on this site speculated that the US government might have enacted it not only in the hopes of boosting birth rates and family formation, but also so there would be a lot of pent up sexual frustration in the male populace that could be harnessed in the next war.

Imo people in power are cracking down on sexual outlets for incels because other than worshiping women they see future use of incels as cannon fodder if the need arises. I don't want to play into that.
Yes life is boring. But it is better than dying in a war on behalf of a society that mocked, dismissed and went out of its way to bully you into not being able to vent with like minded people. People talk about cucked. To me there is nothing more cucked than that.

It's easy to forget in these relatively peaceful times but war is hell.
I'll take the boredom and monotony of incel life over dying horribly in a war.
 
I recently realized that a lot of my desires involving women (which range from engaging in self loathing to just wanting to fap) flare up when I’m the middle of a mood swing; as in, feeling great or feeling like shit.

The times I’ve spent the longest without fapping or intrusive thoughts is when my mood is completely neutral and I’m somewhat busy. Maybe stabilizing your general mood in the long run will help you.
 
As much as life feels like a drawn out movie that never ends at this point and you are continuously tortured every day despite learning "the moral of the story" if there is one in life, I would caution against this kind of acceptance.

I remember when the FOSTA ban on prostitues was announced some people on this site speculated that the US government might have enacted it not only in the hopes of boosting birth rates and family formation, but also so there would be a lot of pent up sexual frustration in the male populace that could be harnessed in the next war.

Imo people in power are cracking down on sexual outlets for incels because other than worshiping women they see future use of incels as cannon fodder if the need arises. I don't want to play in that.
Yes life is boring. But it is better than dying in a war on behalf of a society that mocked, dismissed and went out of its way to bully you into not being able to vent with like minded people. People talk about cucked. To me there is nothing more cucked than that.

It's easy to forget in these relatively peaceful times but war is hell.
I'll take the boredom and monotony of incel life over dying horribly in a war.
I wasn't really talking about war, only your comment about this world not being a place for us. Actually I'm so impulsive that if I had a gun in my house, I'm certain that I would've killed myself by now. As I often feel extremely suicidal for a few hours at a time, but then it passes and goes back to my normal level of feeling like shit.

Ultimately you're right though, dying for this society is about as cucked as it gets.
 
I wasn't really talking about war, only your comment about this world not being a place for us. Actually I'm so impulsive that if I had a gun in my house, I'm certain that I would've killed myself by now. As I often feel extremely suicidal for a few hours at a time, but then it passes and goes back to my normal level of feeling like shit.

I'm scared of the failure from not being able to kill yourself with a gun if the time comes when there is no longer surviving family around me and I am past middle age. I also worry about the consequences of instinctively quitting this life before my time is determined and how it is rumored to have potential severe consequences if there is an afterlife or reincarnation.

Ultimately you're right though, dying for this society is about as cucked as it gets.

I long struggled with the idea that maybe remaking the world into a better place might alleviate and make things easier for low status males but after seeing how the spread of the redpill backfired and was co-opted by PUAs and how later a lot of former men's rights activists and mgtow who were virgins became extremely disillusioned with the state of things after being mocked and dismissed no matter how well they framed their arguments and gave evidence and found themselves going to incel forums to rot, I am convinced that there is nothing really that can be done and that the world will never be a place for sexless males that cannot naturally attract a woman.

Ironically enough I had starting to think about this in 2013 after watching the final episode of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated where it was said that all the influence of the evil entity in Crystal Cove never had to happen and things were finally as they should be.
That's when I realized that all the talk the media says about how you should get out there, speak your mind, influence others: that influence in itself may be an evil.
Politicians that seek to gain influence over people's lives often do it for narcissistic grandiose ends to attach their name to it.
Forcing reclusive males to share their opinions and not hide from society sometimes has bad consequences like your rhetoric later being co-opted by dissident sexhavers and people that want to draw attention to controversial things you say to feature in their book. You are in effect being used again by not holding back what you really think and it's very demoralizing.
People have to figure out their life for themselves but it worked better when there was a life script. I can't be the one to tell people how to live their lives because there is still much to figure out and it's different for everyone. Plus giving people information with everything not yet accounted for can have bad consequences down the line. I used to assume I knew what everyone should do but I realized I am not really in that position so I refrained from doing so.

I tried to leave all these sites behind after 2013 but through the rise of the alt-right again bringing manosphere topics to light and failure to NTmaxx and fit in with normies because of being ethnic, I was drawn back to these places again perhaps by fate.
It was then that I also concluded after reading discussions on this site showing how it was already over for low tier males 100 years ago that this world was never made for sexless males and part of the reason why sexless males can never integrate into society and live a normal life is because of this reason.

But now despite concluding influence is evil I persist in venting here in a way that might influence people that read what I type. Why? Because I'm not doing it to change things but in hopes that I can share insight to prevent them from getting worse.
The fact that it has been revealed just how desperate people are to shut up males that vent in their own spaces about being mistreated by women and society is something that really irritates me and I feel that ceding to this is giving up the will to live in any manner.

Remember that talk of the military draft and WW3 was very real at the beginning of this year and musing about sending men to war was becoming more common. No one should ever here should ever cede to this narrative.
Society is counting on people here feeling so depressed and demoralized from having all their copes and ability to vent taken away from them that they volunteer themselves/allow themselves to be thrust into the meat grinder of war against probably other sexless males from other countries and to come to acceptance with the expendability of non chad males and just shut up and accept it. It is an insidious arrogant move for society to do this.
By comparison to all this I am fine eking out an existence and hoping things don't get worse and sharing insights that better help prepare people like me for what might be coming.
Again I don't want to play into the narrative that it is so hopeless that there is no point in doing anything because that just leaves you open to be used by society.
 
same here, if i could not think about sex and mgtow monkmaxx or something i'd be a lot happier than i am now
 
The fact that it has been revealed just how desperate people are to shut up males that vent in their own spaces about being mistreated by women and society is something that really irritates me and I feel that ceding to this is giving up the will to live in any manner.
I agree. I think that censoring yourself is completely pointless, as society just wants us to shut up and suffer without complaint. That's seriously their solution, jfl.
By comparison to all this I am fine eking out an existence and hoping things don't get worse and sharing insights that better help prepare people like me for what might be coming.
Again I don't want to play into the narrative that it is so hopeless that there is no point in doing anything because that just leaves you open to be used by society.
When I post depressing things, it's not my intention to make others feel bad, it's just my own venting tbh. I feel completely hopeless, I can barely even concentrate on copes. It's always funny to me how normies claim that there is more to live than sex, and they're right. But what they fail to realize is that not have any sex or physical intimacy often makes it impossible to enjoy anything else.
 
I agree. I think that censoring yourself is completely pointless, as society just wants us to shut up and suffer without complaint. That's seriously their solution, jfl.

That and even if you censor yourself, society will still insist on speaking on behalf of people like you by saying complete misdirections and confusing the understanding of issues and what they are associated with even further so that people become even more willing to target people like us.
There is a balance between spreading awareness of this among like minded people and inadvertently giving eavesdropping outsiders more ideas to further oppress unattractive males in ways that they wouldn't have otherwise thought of. The latter wouldn't be an issue if these spaces were not continuously scouted by outsiders with nefarious motives but that is unfortunately not the case.
It was apparent from the quarantining of the mgtow sub earlier this year based only on "hateful" key words tallied throughout the subs entire history of being up regardless of context (ie an instance of the word rape in the term false rape accusations counting toward something bad) and guilt by association of a US navy personnel that was planning to rise up against the jews or w/e because it was found that he was browsing the mgtow sub on his work computer, along with announcements that MIT technology review of all places was talking about cracking down on these groups and any others that had some overlap with incels...it was all this that showed me society, the media and social media companies are really going for broke and are desperate to misrepresent, astroturf and put words in people's mouths in whatever way they can to shut them up.

When I post depressing things, it's not my intention to make others feel bad, it's just my own venting tbh. I feel completely hopeless, I can barely even concentrate on copes. It's always funny to me how normies claim that there is more to live than sex, and they're right. But what they fail to realize is that not have any sex or physical intimacy often makes it impossible to enjoy anything else.

All we can do is vent from time to time. There is no perfect solution and people here can in all honesty hope nothing gets worse because they will be the ones most negatively affected. Forget the collapse cope, has the coronavirus really made things better for incels besides not having to go to as many places IRL? The economy and world outlook is in shambles and people are looking to posture about things and throw men under the bus whenever that happens.
 
That and even if you censor yourself, society will still insist on speaking on behalf of people like you by saying complete misdirections and confusing the understanding of issues and what they are associated with even further so that people become even more willing to target people like us.
There is a balance between spreading awareness of this among like minded people and inadvertently giving eavesdropping outsiders more ideas to further oppress unattractive males in ways that they wouldn't have otherwise thought of. The latter wouldn't be an issue if these spaces were not continuously scouted by outsiders with nefarious motives but that is unfortunatley not the case.
It was apparent from the quarantining of the mgtow sub earlier this year based only on "hateful" key words tallied regardless of context (ie an instance of the word rape in the term false rape accusations counting toward something bad) and guilt by association of a US navy personnel that was planning to rise up against the jews or w/e because it was found that hewas browsing the mgtow sub, along with announcements that MIT technology review of all places was talking about cracking down on these groups and any others that had some overlap with incels...it was all this that showed me society, the media and social media companies are really going for broke and are desperate to misrepresent, astroturf and put words in people's mouths in whatever way they can to shut them up.
People despise us, they despise low value men. It doesn't matter what we say or don't say, we're still worthy of nothing more than mockery and scorn. Kinda makes you wonder why society is so opposed to suicide if our very presence disturbs and disgusts them so much. I mean obviously dead people don't produce value, so that's the main reason, but with the way we're treated you'd honestly think that people want us dead.
 
People despise us, they despise low value men. It doesn't matter what we say or don't say, we're still worthy of nothing more than mockery and scorn. Kinda makes you wonder why society is so opposed to suicide if our very presence disturbs and disgusts them so much. I mean obviously dead people don't produce value, so that's the main reason, but with the way we're treated you'd honestly think that people want us dead.

I think part of it past the idea that the people enjoy our suffering and enjoy having people to look down on (which is definitely true imo but does not tell the whole story) is the idea that in many countries especially western ones, the idea of ending your life is seen as giving up in a shameful way, a dishonor to your family, against biblical morals and is degenerate and seen as something you should quietly resort to, not something that sexhavers and people with families have to foot the bill for in taxes.

While a lot of people in western countries are no longer religious in many ways imo we live in the weird shadows of 19th century ideals about religious morals, race and gender interposed with further contradictions from the sexual revolution, rock and roll celebrity culture and finally the "out in the open out to disrupt people and get them thinking to send a message while always striving to get that bread" hip hop and rap culture that has evolved since originating in the 80s and 90s.
 
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