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I don't care about this movie but I made this thread so you retards can post everything related to it here to stop the Joker spamming and also give me alerts in the process.
 
i think its a bit over rated at the end its just movie nobody went er here :feelstrash:
 
Good idea, i have to wait till next week (premiere starts here later)
 
dont go jokER
 
I liked tbtbtbth
 
Why so serious mate
 
Movie of the year.Everything else is cope.


jk watch some femenist propaganda film sweep all the awards
 
Joined Jun 14, 2019
 
Thank you kind stranger
Joker (2019 film)


Joker is a 2019 American psychological thriller film directed by Todd Phillips, who co-wrote the screenplay with Scott Silver. The film, based on DC Comics characters, stars Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker. An origin story set in 1981, the film follows Arthur Fleck, a mentally ill failed stand-up comedian who turns to a life of crime and chaos in Gotham City. Robert De Niro, Zazie Beetz, Frances Conroy, Brett Cullen, Glenn Fleshler, Bill Camp, Shea Whigham, and Marc Maron appear in supporting roles. Joker was produced by DC Films, Village Roadshow Pictures, Bron Creative, and Joint Effort, and distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures.
Joker
Joker (2019 film) poster.jpg
Theatrical release poster
Directed byTodd Phillips
Produced by
Written by
Based onCharacters
by DC Comics
StarringJoaquin Phoenix
Music byHildur Guðnadóttir
CinematographyLawrence Sher
Edited byJeff Groth
Production
companies
Distributed byWarner Bros. Pictures
Release date
  • August 31, 2019(Venice)
  • October 4, 2019(United States)
Running time122 minutes[1]
CountryUnited States
LanguageEnglish
Budget$55–70 million[2][3]
Box office$97.1 million[4]
Phillips conceived Joker in 2016 and wrote the script with Silver throughout 2017. The two were inspired by 1970s character studies and the films of Martin Scorsese, who was initially attached to the project as a producer. The graphic novel Batman: The Killing Joke (1988) was the basis for the premise, but Phillips and Silver otherwise did not look to specific comics for inspiration. Phoenix became attached in February 2018 and was cast that July, while the majority of the cast signed on by August. Principal photography took place in New York City, Jersey City, and Newark, from September to December 2018. Joker was the first live-action Batman film to receive an R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America, due to its violent and disturbing content.
Joker premiered at the 76th Venice International Film Festival on August 31, 2019—where it won the Golden Lion, the festival's highest prize—and was released in the United States on October 4. The film polarized critics; while Phoenix's performance was praised, the dark tone, portrayal of mental illness, and handling of violence were met with divided responses.[5] Joker also generated concerns of inspiring real-world violence, with the movie theater where the 2012 Aurora, Colorado mass shooting occurred during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises refusing to show the film.

Contents


Plot

In 1981, Arthur Fleck works as a clown-for-hire and lives with his mother, Penny, in Gotham City. Rife with unemployment, crime, and financial ruin, the city has started collapsing, leaving segments of the population disenfranchised and impoverished. Arthur suffers from a neurological disorder that causes him to laugh at inappropriate times, and regularly visits a social services worker to obtain medication. After a group of street kids attack him in an alley, Arthur's co-worker, Randall, loans him a gun for protection. Arthur also meets Sophie, a single mother who lives in a neighboring apartment, and invites her to his stand-up comedy routine.
While entertaining at a children's hospital, Arthur's gun falls out of his pocket. Arthur is fired for this; Randall lies that Arthur bought the gun himself. During a ride home on the subway, Arthur is beaten by three drunken Wayne Enterprises businessmen before he shoots two of them in self-defense and executes the remaining one. The murders unintentionally start a protest movement against Gotham's rich, with protesters donning clown masks in the unidentified killer's image. Arthur later learns that funding cuts are shuttering the social service program, leaving him without access to his medication.
That night, Sophie attends Arthur's stand-up comedy routine, which goes poorly; he laughs uncontrollably and has difficulty delivering his jokes. A popular talk show host, Murray Franklin, mocks Arthur by showing clips from the routine on his show. Arthur later intercepts a letter written by Penny to local billionaire and mayoral candidate Thomas Wayne, alleging that he is Thomas' illegitimate son, and berates his mother for hiding the truth. Arthur goes to Wayne Manor for answers, where he meets Thomas' son, Bruce. After a scuffle with Alfred Pennyworth, the family butler, Arthur flees. Shortly after a visit from two Gotham City Police Department detectives Garrity and Burke investigating Arthur's involvement in the train murders, Penny suffers a stroke and is hospitalized.
At a public event, Arthur confronts Thomas, who tells him that Penny is mentally unstable and not his biological mother. In denial, Arthur visits Arkham State Hospital and steals Penny's case file. He discovers that he was adopted after being abandoned as a baby and that Penny had an abusive boyfriend whom she allowed to physically harm both herself and Arthur.[a] Distraught, Arthur goes to the hospital and kills Penny before returning home and entering Sophie's apartment unannounced. Frightened, Sophie tells him to leave; it is revealed that their previous encounters were Arthur's delusions.
Arthur is invited to make a guest appearance on Murray's show due to the unexpected popularity of his routine clips. As he puts on his makeup and outfit, he is visited by his former co-workers Gary and Randall. Arthur murders Randall but leaves Gary unharmed for treating Arthur well in the past. En route to the studio, Arthur is spotted and pursued by detectives Garrity and Burke onto a train filled with clown protesters. Burke accidentally shoots a protester and incites a riot while Arthur escapes in the chaos.
Before the show goes live, Arthur requests that Murray introduce him as "Joker", a reference to Murray's previous mockery. Arthur comes out to a warm reception, but begins telling morbid jokes, admits that he killed the men on the train, and rants about how society abandons the disfranchised and how Murray mocked him. Arthur then kills Murray before being arrested. Riots break out across Gotham. One of the rioters corners the Wayne family in an alley and murders Thomas and his wife Martha, sparing a traumatized Bruce.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(2019_film)#cite_note-9Meanwhile, a group of rioters in an ambulance crash into the police car carrying Arthur and free him. Arthur is hailed as a hero by the crowd and dances to their cheers.
Arthur is imprisoned in an asylum. Laughing to himself, his psychiatrist asks him to tell her the joke; he replies that she would not understand. Arthur then runs from the orderlies, leaving a trail of bloodied footprints.

Cast

  • Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck / Joker:
    A mentally ill, impoverished stand-up comedian disregarded by society,[8] whose history of abuse causes him to become a nihilistic criminal.[9] Phoenix had been interested in a low-budget "character study" of a comic book character, and said the film "feels unique, it is its own world in some ways, and maybe [...] It might as well be the thing that scares you the most."[10] Phoenix lost 52 pounds (24 kg) in preparation,[11][12] and based his laugh on "videos of people suffering from pathological laughter."[13] He also sought to portray a character that audiences could not identify with and did not look to previous Joker actors for inspiration; instead, he read a book about political assassinations so he could understand killers and motivations.[9] Director Todd Phillips said that he intentionally left it ambiguous as to whether Arthur becomes the actual Joker as seen in traditional Batman stories or inspires a separate character.[14]
  • Robert De Niro as Murray Franklin:[15]
    A talk show host who plays a role in Arthur's downfall.[16] De Niro said his role in Jokerpays homage to his character from The King of Comedy (1983), Rupert Pupkin, who is a comedian obsessed with a talk-show host.[15]
  • Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond:[17]
    A cynical single mother and Arthur's purported love interest.[17][18] Beetz, a "huge fan" of Phoenix, said that it was "an honor" to co-star with him,[19] and that she learned a lot working with him on set.[20]
  • Frances Conroy as Penny Fleck: Arthur's mentally and physically ill mother,[21] who formerly worked for Thomas Wayne.[6] Hannah Gross portrays a young Penny.[citation needed]
Additionally, Brett Cullen plays Thomas Wayne, a billionaire philanthropist running for mayor of Gotham.[22] Unlike the source material, he plays a role in the Joker's origins and is less sympathetic than traditional incarnations.[23] Alec Baldwin was initially cast in the role but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts.[24][25] Douglas Hodge plays Alfred Pennyworth, the butler and caretaker of the Wayne family,[26] and Dante Pereira-Olson plays Bruce Wayne, Thomas's son, who becomes the Joker's archenemy Batman as an adult.[27][28]
Additional cast members include Glenn Fleshler as Randall, a clown and Arthur's co-worker;[29] Bill Camp and Shea Whigham as Garrity and Burke, two detectives in the Gotham City Police Department;[30] Marc Maron as Gene Ufland, a producer on Franklin's show;[31][32] Leigh Gill as Gary, Arthur's co-worker;[citation needed] Josh Pais as Hoyt Vaughn, Arthur's agent;[29][33] Brian Tyree Henry as Carl, an administration employee at Arkham State Hospital;[citation needed] and Bryan Callen as a co-worker of Arthur.[34] Justin Therouxcameos as a celebrity guest on Franklin's show.[35]

Production

Development

Joker director Todd Phillipsin 2016
Between 2014 and 2015, Joaquin Phoenix was interested in acting in a low-budget "character study" type of film about a comic book villain like the DC Comics character Joker.[10]Phoenix had previously declined to act in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because he would have been required to play the roles he was offered, like the Hulk and Doctor Strange, in multiple films.[36] He did not believe his idea for a film should cover the Joker, however, as he believed that character had been depicted in a similar way before, and tried to think of a different one. Phoenix's agent suggested setting up a meeting with Warner Bros., but he declined.[10] Similarly, Todd Phillips had been offered to direct comic-based films a number of times, but declined because he thought they were "loud" and did not interest him. According to Phillips, Joker was born from his idea to create a different, more grounded comic book film.[11] He was attracted to the Joker because there was not a definitive portrayal of the character, which he knew would provide considerable creative freedom.[14]
Phillips pitched the idea for Joker to Warner Bros. after his film War Dogs premiered in August 2016.[11] Prior to War Dogs, Phillips was mostly known for his comedy films, such as Road Trip (2000), Old School (2003), and The Hangover (2009); War Dogs marked a venture into more unsettling territory.[37] During the premiere, Phillips realized "War Dogswasn't going to set the world on fire and I was thinking, 'What do people really want to see?'"[11] He proposed that DC Films differentiate its slate from the competing Marvel Studios' by producing low-budget, standalone films.[38][39] After the successful release of the standalone feature Wonder Woman (2017), DC Films decided to deemphasize the shared nature of its DC-based film franchise, the DC Extended Universe (DCEU).[40] In August 2017, Warner Bros. and DC Films revealed plans for the film, with Phillips directing and co-writing with Scott Silver, and Martin Scorsese co-producing with Phillips.[41] The announcement of the film was met with mixed reactions. Jared Leto, who portrays the Joker in the DCEU, was reportedly displeased with the existence of multiple different contemporary Joker characters.[42]
Warner Bros. pushed for Phillips to cast Leonardo DiCaprio as the Joker,[37] hoping to use his frequent collaborator Scorsese's involvement to lure him.[42] However, Phillips said that Phoenix was the only actor he considered,[43] and that he and Silver wrote the script with Phoenix in mind: "The goal was never to introduce Joaquin Phoenix into the comic book movie universe. The goal was to introduce comic book movies into the Joaquin Phoenix universe."[44] Phoenix said when he learned of the film, he became excited because it was the kind of film he was looking to make, describing it as unique and stating it did not feel like a typical "studio movie".[10] It took him some time to commit to the role, as it intimidated him and he said "oftentimes, in these movies, we have these simplified, reductive archetypes, and that allows for the audience to be distant from the character, just like we would do in real life, where it's easy to label somebody as evil, and therefore say, 'Well, I'm not that.'"[44]
Writing
It was a yearlong process from when we finished the script just to get the new people on board with this vision, because I pitched it to an entirely different team than made it. There were emails about: 'You realize we sell Joker pajamas at Target.' There were a zillion hurdles, and you just sort of had to navigate those one at a time.... At the time, I would curse them in my head every day. But then I have to put it in perspective and go, 'They're pretty bold that they did this.'
– Todd Phillips[11]
Phillips and Silver wrote Jokerthroughout 2017, and the writing process took about a year.[45] According to producer Emma Tillinger Koskoff, it took some time to get approval for the script from Warner Bros., partly because of concerns over the content. Similarly, Phillips commented that there were "a zillion hurdles" during the year-long writing process due to the visibility of the character.[11] Phillips said that while the script's themes may reflect modern society, the film was not intended to be political.[45] The Joker had appeared in several films before, but Phillips thought it was still possible to produce a new story featuring the character. "It's just another interpretation, like people do interpretations of Macbeth," he told The New York Times.[43]
The script draws inspiration from Scorsese films such as Taxi Driver (1976), Raging Bull(1980), and The King of Comedy (1983),[41][37] as well as Phillips' Hangover Trilogy.[46]Other films Phillips has cited as inspiration include character studies released in the 1970s—such as Serpico (1973) and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)—the silent film The Man Who Laughs (1928), and several musicals. Phillips said that aside from the tone, he did not consider Joker that different from his previous work, such as his Hangover films.[45]While the film's premise was inspired by Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's graphic novel Batman: The Killing Joke (1988), which depicts the Joker as a failed stand-up comedian,[11]Phillips said it does not "follow anything from the comic books... That's what was interesting to me. We're not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker."[47] Phillips later clarified that he meant they did not look to a specific comic for inspiration, but rather "picked and chose what we liked" from the character's history.[48]
Phillips and Silver found the most common Joker origin story, in which the character is disfigured after falling into a vat of acid, too unrealistic.[11] Instead, they used certain elements of the Joker lore to produce an original story,[49] which Phillips wanted to feel as authentic as possible.[11] Because the Joker does not have a definitive origin story in the comics, Phillips and Silver were given considerable creative freedom and "pushed each other every day to come up with something totally insane."[45] However, they did try to retain the ambiguous "multiple choice" nature of the Joker's past by positioning the character as an unreliable narrator—with entire storylines simply being his delusions[14]—and left what mental illnesses he suffers from unclear.[37] As such, Phillips said the entire film is open to interpretation.[14]
Pre-production
Following the disappointing critical and financial performance of Justice League (2017), in January 2018 Walter Hamada replaced Jon Berg as the head of DC-based film production at Warner Bros.[50] Hamada sorted through the various DC films in development, canceling some while advancing work on others; the Joker film was expected to begin filming in late 2018 with a small budget.[2] By June, Robert De Niro was under consideration for a supporting role in the film.[51] The deal with Phoenix was finalized in July 2018,[52] after four months of persuasion from Phillips.[11] Immediately afterwards,[52] Warner Bros. officially green-lit the film,[53] titled it Joker, and gave it an October 4, 2019, release date.[54] Warner Bros. described the film as "an exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale".[55]
Scorsese's longtime associate Koskoff joined to produce,[56][57] although Scorsese left his producing duties due to other obligations.[56] Scorsese considered instead serving as an executive producer, but was preoccupied with his film The Irishman.[11] It was also confirmed that the film would have no effect on Leto's Joker[58] and it was expected to be the first in a new series of DC films unrelated to the DCEU.[2] Zazie Beetz was cast in a supporting role,[18] and De Niro entered negotiations in August.[16][59] Frances McDormanddeclined an offer to portray the mother of the Joker, and Frances Conroy was in talks for the role.[60][21] At the end of July, Marc Maron, who had recently finished filming the third season of the web television series GLOW,[32] and Bryan Callen joined the cast.[31][61] Alec Baldwin was cast as Thomas Wayne on August 27, but dropped out two days later due to scheduling conflicts.[24]
Filming
A corrugated silver metal subway train sits with its doors open in a station. Its rollsign reads 0 Local / To Old Gotham all times / Downtown & Tricorner.
A New York City Subway C train with a rollsign for the fictional 0 train left over from filming for Joker
Principal photography commenced in September 2018 in New York City,[c] under the working title Romeo.[64]Shortly after filming began, De Niro, Brett Cullen, Shea Whigham, Glenn Fleshler, Bill Camp, Josh Pais, and Douglas Hodge were announced to have joined the film, with Cullen replacing Baldwin.[65][29] Bradley Cooper also joined the film as a producer.[66] The director of photography was Lawrence Sher, with whom Phillips had previously collaborated with for his Hangover films.[29] On September 22, a scene depicting a violent protest took place in Brooklyn, although the station was modified to look like Bedford Park Boulevard station.[67] In late September 2018, filming of robbery scenes took place at the First Central Savings Bank in Astoria, Queens.[68]
According to Beetz, Phillips rewrote the entire script during production; because Phoenix lost so much weight for the film, there would not be an opportunity for reshoots. She recalled: "we would go into Todd's trailer and write the scene for the night and then do it. During hair and makeup we'd memorize those lines and then do them and then we'd reshoot that three weeks later."[69] Phillips recalled Phoenix sometimes walked off-set during filming because he lost self-control and needed to compose himself—to the confusion of other actors, who felt they had done something wrong. De Niro was one of the few Phoenix never walked out on, and De Niro said he was "very intense in what he was doing, as it should be, as he should be."[70]
Filming in Jersey City started on September 30 and shut down Newark Avenue, while filming in November (starting on November 9) shut down Kennedy Boulevard. Filming in Newark began on October 13 and lasted until October 16.[64] Shortly before filming in Newark began, SAG-AFTRA received a complaint that extras were locked in subway carsfor more than three hours during filming in Brooklyn, a break violation. However, the issue was quickly resolved after a representative visited the set.[71] That month, Dante Pereira-Olson and Douglas Hodge joined the cast.[26] Whigham said towards the end of October the film was in "the middle" of production, adding that it was an "intense" and "incredible" experience.[30] By mid-November, filming had moved back to New York.[72] Filming wrapped on December 3, 2018,[73] with Phillips posting a picture on his Instagram feed later in the month to commemorate the occasion.[74]
Post-production
Phillips confirmed he was in the process of editing Joker in March 2019.[75] At CinemaConthe following month, he stated the film was "still taking shape" and said it was difficult to discuss, as he hoped to maintain secrecy.[76] Phillips also stated that most reports surrounding the film were inaccurate, which he felt was because it is "an origin story about a character that doesn't have a definitive origin".[77] Brian Tyree Henry was also confirmed to have a role in the film.[33] The visual effects were provided by Scanline VFX and Shade VFX and supervised by Matthew Giampa and Bryan Godwin, with Erwin Rivera serving as the overall supervisor.[78]
In August 2018, Hildur Guðnadóttir was hired to compose the film's score.[79] Guðnadóttir began writing music after reading the script and met with Phillips, who "had a lot of strong ideas" about how he thought the score should sound. She worked on the Joker score alongside the score for the drama miniseries Chernobyl; Guðnadóttir said switching between the two was challenging because the scores were so different.[80] Additionally, the film features the songs "That's Life" and "Send In the Clowns".[37] The score was released on October 2, 2019 by WaterTower Music.[81]
The film's final budget was $55–70 million, considered by The Hollywood Reporter "a fraction" of the typical budget for a comic book-based film.[2][82][3] In comparison, the previous villain-centric DC film, Suicide Squad (2016), cost $175 million.[37] $25 million of Joker's budget was covered by the Toronto-based financing company Creative Wealth Media.[83] Joker was also the first live-action film in the Batman film franchise to receive an R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America, due to "strong bloody violence, disturbing behavior, language, and brief sexual images."[84]

Marketing

Phillips has promoted the film by posting set photos on his Instagram feed.[85] On September 21, 2018, he released test footage of Phoenix in-costume as the Joker, with "Laughing" by The Guess Who accompanying the footage.[86] At CinemaCon on April 2, 2019, Phillips unveiled the first trailer for the film,[33] which was released online the following day.[87] The trailer, prominently featuring the song "Smile" performed by Jimmy Durante, generated positive responses, with some commentators comparing it to Taxi Driver and Requiem for a Dream and praising Phoenix's performance.[88][89] Writers described the trailer as dark and gritty,[90] with ComicBook.com's Jenna Anderson feeling it was more like a psychological thriller than a comic book film.[33] Mark Hamill, who voicedthe Joker in the 1992 cartoon Batman: The Animated Series, expressed enthusiasm in a Twitter post.[91][92] Conversely, io9's Germain Lussier said the trailer revealed too little and that it was too similar to photos Phillips posted on Instagram. While he still believed it exhibited potential, Lussier overall thought the trailer was not "a home run".[93] The trailer received over eight million views in the first few hours of release.[94]
On August 25, 2019, Phillips released six brief teasers that contained flashes of writing, revealing the second trailer would be released on August 28.[95] Filmmaker Kevin Smithcommended the trailer, stating he thought the film "would still work even if [DC Comics] didn't exist" and praising its uniqueness.[96]

Release

Joker premiered at the 76th Venice International Film Festival on August 31, 2019, where it received an eight-minute standing ovation and won the Golden Lion award.[97][98] It also screened at the Toronto International Film Festival on September 9, 2019.[99] The film was released theatrically by Warner Bros. Pictures on October 4, 2019 in the United States, and a day earlier in Australia and some other international markets.[100][101]
The film did not play at the Aurora, Colorado movie theater where the 2012 mass shootingoccurred during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises. Three families of victims, as well as the mother of a witness, signed a letter to Warner Bros. with the request.[102] Warner Bros. restricted press access to the red carpet at the United States premiere on September 28, 2019 to photographers only. Additionally, Landmark Theaters has prohibited moviegoers from wearing Joker costumes during its run, while the Los Angeles and New York City Police Departments increased police visibility at area theaters, though they did not receive "any specific threat".[103][104]

Reception

Box office
As of October 4, 2019, Joker has grossed $39.9 million in the United States and Canada, and $57.2 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $97.1 million.[4]
In August 2019, BoxOffice magazine analyst Shawn Robbins wrote that he expected Jokerto gross $60–90 million during its opening weekend in North America.[105] Following the film's premiere, BoxOffice predicted Joker could open to $70–95 million domestically.[106]Later updating to $85–105 million, Robbins suggested it could become the first October release to open to over $100 million, and surpass the record set by Venom in 2018.[107]However, Comscore's senior media analyst Paul Dergarabedian thought the film would open closer to $50 million because it is not a "typical comic-book movie."[108] Three weeks prior to its release, official industry tracking projected the film would debut to $65–80 million, with some estimates going as high as $90 million.[109] The week of its release, Atom Tickets announced pre-sale totals for the film were outpacing those of Venom and It Chapter Two ($91.1 million debut), and that Joker was its second-bestselling R-rated film of 2019 behind John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum.[110] It made $39.9 million on its first day, including $13.3 million from Thursday night previews, besting Venom's respective October records.[3]
Worldwide, the film is projected to debut to around $155 million, including $75 million from 73 overseas territories.[111] It made $5.4 million from four countries on its first day and $18.7 million from 47 in its second, for a two-day total of $24.6 million.[112]
Critical response

Joaquin Phoenix received considerable praise for his performance as the Joker.[113]
On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 69% based on 391 reviews, with an average rating of 7.36/10. The site's critical consensus reads: "Joker gives its infamous central character a chillingly plausible origin story that serves as a brilliant showcase for its star – and a dark evolution for comics-inspired cinema."[114] Metacritic, which uses a weighted average, assigned the film a score of 58 out of 100 based on 55 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews".[115] Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B+" on an A+ to F scale, while those at PostTrak gave it an overall positive score of 84% (with an average 4 out of 5 stars) and a 60% "definite recommend."[3]
Writing for IGN, Jim Vejvoda gave Joker a perfect score, writing the film "would work just as well as an engrossing character study without any of its DC Comics trappings; that it just so happens to be a brilliant Batman-universe movie is icing on the Batfan cake." He found it a powerful and unsettling allegory of contemporary neglect and violence, and described Phoenix's performance as the Joker as engrossing and "Oscar-worthy".[116] Similarly, Xan Brooks of The Guardian who also gave the film a perfect score—called it "gloriously daring and explosive" and appreciated how Phillips used elements from Scorsese films to create an original story.[117] Variety's Owen Gleiberman wrote: "Phoenix is astonishing as a mentally ill geek who becomes the killer-clown Joker in Todd Phillips' neo-Taxi Driverknockout: the rare comic-book movie that expresses what's happening in the real world."[118]
ComicBook.com's Brandon Davis acclaimed Joker as a groundbreaking comic book adaptation that he found scarier than most 2019 horror films. Davis compared it favorably to the 2008 Batman film The Dark Knight, praised the cinematography and performances, and called it a film that needed to be seen to be believed.[119] According to Deadline Hollywood's Pete Hammond, the film redefines the Joker and is "impossible to shake off." Hammond also praised the story and performances, and summarized the film as "a bravura piece of filmmaking that speaks to the world we are actually living in today in ways that few movies do."[120] Peter Travers of Rolling Stone was lost for words in describing Phoenix's performance, calling the film "gut-wrenching" and "simply stupendous".[121]
David Ehrlich of IndieWire was more mixed and gave the film a "C+". He felt that while "Joker is the boldest and most exciting superhero movie since The Dark Knight", it was "also incendiary, confused, and potentially toxic." Ehrlich thought that the film would make DC fans happy and praised Phoenix's performance, but criticized Phillips' direction and the lack of originality.[122] A more critical review came from Glenn Kenny of RogerEbert.com, who gave the film two stars out of four. Though he praised the performances and thought the story worked, Kennedy criticized the social commentary and Phillips' direction, finding the film too derivative and believing its focus was "less in entertainment than in generating self-importance."[123] Time magazine's Stephanie Zacharek, in a negative review, criticized Phoenix's performance as over-the-top and felt that while Phillips tried to "[give] us a movie all about the emptiness of our culture... he's just offering a prime example of it." She argued the plot was nonexistent, "dark only in a stupidly adolescent way," and "stuffed with phony philosophy."[124] Meanwhile, NPR's Glen Weldon thought the film lacked innovation and said its sympathetic take on the Joker was "wildly unconvincing and mundanely uninteresting." Weldon also described Joker as trying too hard to deviate from the comics and, as a result, coming off as an imitation of films like Taxi Driver.[125] Peter Bradshaw from The Guardian called it "the most disappointing film of the year". While praising Phoenix's performance and the first act, he criticized the motivation for violence and the Joker's supposed role in triggering protests against capitalism.[126]
The film generated positive responses from industry figures. DC Comics chief creative officer Jim Lee praised the film as "intense, raw and soulful," and stated that it remained true to the character despite deviating from the source material,[113] while Joker voice actor Mark Hamill thought the film "brilliantly" reinvented the Joker and gave it "[two] thumbs up".[127] Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore called Joker a "cinematic masterpiece" and said it was a "danger to society" if people did not see it.[128]
Social commentary
Joker deals with the themes of mental illness and its effects,[129] and its depiction of the Joker has been described as reminiscent of those who commit mass shootings in the United States as well as members of the online incel community.[130][131] Vejvoda, Hammond, and The Guardian's Christina Newland interpreted the film as a cautionary tale—society's ignorance of those who are less fortunate will create a person like the Joker.[116][120][132] Stephen Kent, writing for The Washington Examiner, described Arthur Fleck as blending shared aspects of mass shooters, and interpreted its message as a reminder that society is riddled with men like the Joker.[130] Writing in People's World, Chauncey K. Robinson said the film "walks a fine line between exploration and validation" of Joker's character and is "ultimately an in-your-face examination of a broken system that creates its own monsters."[133]
Some writers have expressed concern that Joker's sympathetic portrayal of a homicidal maniac could inspire real-world violence.[134][135] Richard Lawson of Vanity Fair found the film was too sympathetic towards "white men who commit heinous crimes" and that the social-politics ideologies represented in the film are "evils that are far more easily identifiable" to people "who shoot up schools and concerts and churches, who gun down the women and men they covet and envy, who let loose some spirit of anarchic animus upon the world—there's almost a woebegone mythos placed on them in the search for answers."[136] Jim Geraghty of National Review wrote he was "worried that a certain segment of America's angry, paranoid, emotionally unstable young men will watch Joaquin Phoenix descending into madness and a desire to get back at society by hurting as many people as possible and exclaim, 'finally, somebody understands me!'"[137]
On September 18, 2019, the United States Army distributed an email warning service members of potential violence at theaters screening the film and noting the Joker character's popularity among the incel community. A separate memo revealed the Army received "credible" information from Texas law enforcement "regarding the targeting of an unknown movie theater during the release."[138] However, according to Deadline Hollywood, the FBI and the United States Department of Homeland Security have found no credible threats surrounding the release of the film.[139] In an interview with TheWrap, Phillips expressed surprise at the backlash, stating, "I think it's because outrage is a commodity, I think it's something that has been a commodity for a while [...] What's outstanding to me in this discourse in this movie is how easily the far left can sound like the far right when it suits their agenda. It's really been eye-opening for me."[140] Phoenix walked out of an interview by The Telegraph when asked if the film could inspire mass shooters. Following this, journalists were disinvited from the premiere at TCL Chinese Theatre, with only photographers being allowed to interact with the filmmakers and cast on the carpet. In a statement to Variety, Warner Bros. said that "A lot has been said about Joker, and we just feel it's time for people to see the film."[141][142][143]
Accolades
AwardDate of ceremonyCategoryRecipient(s) and nominee(s)Result
List of awards and nominations
Golden Trailer Awards[144]May 29, 2019Best Teaser"Maybe Tomorrow", Warner Bros., JAXNominated
Toronto International Film Festival[145]September 10, 2019TIFF Tribute Actor AwardJoaquin PhoenixWon
Venice Film Festival[146][147]September 7, 2019Golden LionJokerWon
Graffetta d'OroJokerWon
Premio Soundtrack Stars AwardHildur GuðnadóttirWon

Future

In contrast to modern comic book films, Joker is intended to be a standalone film with no planned sequels.[76] While Phillips said in August 2019 that he would be interested in making a sequel, depending on the film's performance and if Phoenix is interested,[46] he later clarified that "the movie's not set up to [have] a sequel. We always pitched it as one movie, and that's it."[148] Warner Bros. intends for Joker to launch DC Black, a line of DC Comics-based films unrelated to the DCEU with darker, more experimental material, similar to comic imprints such as Elseworlds.[38][149]


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Joker (2019 film)


Joker is a 2019 American psychological thriller film directed by Todd Phillips, who co-wrote the screenplay with Scott Silver. The film, based on DC Comics characters, stars Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker. An origin story set in 1981, the film follows Arthur Fleck, a mentally ill failed stand-up comedian who turns to a life of crime and chaos in Gotham City. Robert De Niro, Zazie Beetz, Frances Conroy, Brett Cullen, Glenn Fleshler, Bill Camp, Shea Whigham, and Marc Maron appear in supporting roles. Joker was produced by DC Films, Village Roadshow Pictures, Bron Creative, and Joint Effort, and distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures.
Joker
Joker (2019 film) poster.jpg
Theatrical release poster
Directed byTodd Phillips
Produced by
Written by
Based onCharacters
by DC Comics
StarringJoaquin Phoenix
Music byHildur Guðnadóttir
CinematographyLawrence Sher
Edited byJeff Groth
Production
companies
Distributed byWarner Bros. Pictures
Release date
  • August 31, 2019(Venice)
  • October 4, 2019(United States)
Running time122 minutes[1]
CountryUnited States
LanguageEnglish
Budget$55–70 million[2][3]
Box office$97.1 million[4]
Phillips conceived Joker in 2016 and wrote the script with Silver throughout 2017. The two were inspired by 1970s character studies and the films of Martin Scorsese, who was initially attached to the project as a producer. The graphic novel Batman: The Killing Joke (1988) was the basis for the premise, but Phillips and Silver otherwise did not look to specific comics for inspiration. Phoenix became attached in February 2018 and was cast that July, while the majority of the cast signed on by August. Principal photography took place in New York City, Jersey City, and Newark, from September to December 2018. Joker was the first live-action Batman film to receive an R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America, due to its violent and disturbing content.

Joker premiered at the 76th Venice International Film Festival on August 31, 2019—where it won the Golden Lion, the festival's highest prize—and was released in the United States on October 4. The film polarized critics; while Phoenix's performance was praised, the dark tone, portrayal of mental illness, and handling of violence were met with divided responses.[5] Joker also generated concerns of inspiring real-world violence, with the movie theater where the 2012 Aurora, Colorado mass shooting occurred during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises refusing to show the film.

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Plot

In 1981, Arthur Fleck works as a clown-for-hire and lives with his mother, Penny, in Gotham City. Rife with unemployment, crime, and financial ruin, the city has started collapsing, leaving segments of the population disenfranchised and impoverished. Arthur suffers from a neurological disorder that causes him to laugh at inappropriate times, and regularly visits a social services worker to obtain medication. After a group of street kids attack him in an alley, Arthur's co-worker, Randall, loans him a gun for protection. Arthur also meets Sophie, a single mother who lives in a neighboring apartment, and invites her to his stand-up comedy routine.
While entertaining at a children's hospital, Arthur's gun falls out of his pocket. Arthur is fired for this; Randall lies that Arthur bought the gun himself. During a ride home on the subway, Arthur is beaten by three drunken Wayne Enterprises businessmen before he shoots two of them in self-defense and executes the remaining one. The murders unintentionally start a protest movement against Gotham's rich, with protesters donning clown masks in the unidentified killer's image. Arthur later learns that funding cuts are shuttering the social service program, leaving him without access to his medication.
That night, Sophie attends Arthur's stand-up comedy routine, which goes poorly; he laughs uncontrollably and has difficulty delivering his jokes. A popular talk show host, Murray Franklin, mocks Arthur by showing clips from the routine on his show. Arthur later intercepts a letter written by Penny to local billionaire and mayoral candidate Thomas Wayne, alleging that he is Thomas' illegitimate son, and berates his mother for hiding the truth. Arthur goes to Wayne Manor for answers, where he meets Thomas' son, Bruce. After a scuffle with Alfred Pennyworth, the family butler, Arthur flees. Shortly after a visit from two Gotham City Police Department detectives Garrity and Burke investigating Arthur's involvement in the train murders, Penny suffers a stroke and is hospitalized.
At a public event, Arthur confronts Thomas, who tells him that Penny is mentally unstable and not his biological mother. In denial, Arthur visits Arkham State Hospital and steals Penny's case file. He discovers that he was adopted after being abandoned as a baby and that Penny had an abusive boyfriend whom she allowed to physically harm both herself and Arthur.[a] Distraught, Arthur goes to the hospital and kills Penny before returning home and entering Sophie's apartment unannounced. Frightened, Sophie tells him to leave; it is revealed that their previous encounters were Arthur's delusions.
Arthur is invited to make a guest appearance on Murray's show due to the unexpected popularity of his routine clips. As he puts on his makeup and outfit, he is visited by his former co-workers Gary and Randall. Arthur murders Randall but leaves Gary unharmed for treating Arthur well in the past. En route to the studio, Arthur is spotted and pursued by detectives Garrity and Burke onto a train filled with clown protesters. Burke accidentally shoots a protester and incites a riot while Arthur escapes in the chaos.
Before the show goes live, Arthur requests that Murray introduce him as "Joker", a reference to Murray's previous mockery. Arthur comes out to a warm reception, but begins telling morbid jokes, admits that he killed the men on the train, and rants about how society abandons the disfranchised and how Murray mocked him. Arthur then kills Murray before being arrested. Riots break out across Gotham. One of the rioters corners the Wayne family in an alley and murders Thomas and his wife Martha, sparing a traumatized Bruce.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(2019_film)#cite_note-9Meanwhile, a group of rioters in an ambulance crash into the police car carrying Arthur and free him. Arthur is hailed as a hero by the crowd and dances to their cheers.
Arthur is imprisoned in an asylum. Laughing to himself, his psychiatrist asks him to tell her the joke; he replies that she would not understand. Arthur then runs from the orderlies, leaving a trail of bloodied footprints.

Cast

    • Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck / Joker:
      A mentally ill, impoverished stand-up comedian disregarded by society,[8] whose history of abuse causes him to become a nihilistic criminal.[9] Phoenix had been interested in a low-budget "character study" of a comic book character, and said the film "feels unique, it is its own world in some ways, and maybe [...] It might as well be the thing that scares you the most."[10] Phoenix lost 52 pounds (24 kg) in preparation,[11][12] and based his laugh on "videos of people suffering from pathological laughter."[13] He also sought to portray a character that audiences could not identify with and did not look to previous Joker actors for inspiration; instead, he read a book about political assassinations so he could understand killers and motivations.[9] Director Todd Phillips said that he intentionally left it ambiguous as to whether Arthur becomes the actual Joker as seen in traditional Batman stories or inspires a separate character.[14]
    • Robert De Niro as Murray Franklin:[15]
      A talk show host who plays a role in Arthur's downfall.[16] De Niro said his role in Jokerpays homage to his character from The King of Comedy (1983), Rupert Pupkin, who is a comedian obsessed with a talk-show host.[15]
    • Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond:[17]
      A cynical single mother and Arthur's purported love interest.[17][18] Beetz, a "huge fan" of Phoenix, said that it was "an honor" to co-star with him,[19] and that she learned a lot working with him on set.[20]
    • Frances Conroy as Penny Fleck: Arthur's mentally and physically ill mother,[21] who formerly worked for Thomas Wayne.[6] Hannah Gross portrays a young Penny.[citation needed]
Additionally, Brett Cullen plays Thomas Wayne, a billionaire philanthropist running for mayor of Gotham.[22] Unlike the source material, he plays a role in the Joker's origins and is less sympathetic than traditional incarnations.[23] Alec Baldwin was initially cast in the role but dropped out due to scheduling conflicts.[24][25] Douglas Hodge plays Alfred Pennyworth, the butler and caretaker of the Wayne family,[26] and Dante Pereira-Olson plays Bruce Wayne, Thomas's son, who becomes the Joker's archenemy Batman as an adult.[27][28]
Additional cast members include Glenn Fleshler as Randall, a clown and Arthur's co-worker;[29] Bill Camp and Shea Whigham as Garrity and Burke, two detectives in the Gotham City Police Department;[30] Marc Maron as Gene Ufland, a producer on Franklin's show;[31][32] Leigh Gill as Gary, Arthur's co-worker;[citation needed] Josh Pais as Hoyt Vaughn, Arthur's agent;[29][33] Brian Tyree Henry as Carl, an administration employee at Arkham State Hospital;[citation needed] and Bryan Callen as a co-worker of Arthur.[34] Justin Therouxcameos as a celebrity guest on Franklin's show.[35]

Production
Development

Joker director Todd Phillipsin 2016
Between 2014 and 2015, Joaquin Phoenix was interested in acting in a low-budget "character study" type of film about a comic book villain like the DC Comics character Joker.[10]Phoenix had previously declined to act in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because he would have been required to play the roles he was offered, like the Hulk and Doctor Strange, in multiple films.[36] He did not believe his idea for a film should cover the Joker, however, as he believed that character had been depicted in a similar way before, and tried to think of a different one. Phoenix's agent suggested setting up a meeting with Warner Bros., but he declined.[10] Similarly, Todd Phillips had been offered to direct comic-based films a number of times, but declined because he thought they were "loud" and did not interest him. According to Phillips, Joker was born from his idea to create a different, more grounded comic book film.[11] He was attracted to the Joker because there was not a definitive portrayal of the character, which he knew would provide considerable creative freedom.[14]
Phillips pitched the idea for Joker to Warner Bros. after his film War Dogs premiered in August 2016.[11] Prior to War Dogs, Phillips was mostly known for his comedy films, such as Road Trip (2000), Old School (2003), and The Hangover (2009); War Dogs marked a venture into more unsettling territory.[37] During the premiere, Phillips realized "War Dogswasn't going to set the world on fire and I was thinking, 'What do people really want to see?'"[11] He proposed that DC Films differentiate its slate from the competing Marvel Studios' by producing low-budget, standalone films.[38][39] After the successful release of the standalone feature Wonder Woman (2017), DC Films decided to deemphasize the shared nature of its DC-based film franchise, the DC Extended Universe (DCEU).[40] In August 2017, Warner Bros. and DC Films revealed plans for the film, with Phillips directing and co-writing with Scott Silver, and Martin Scorsese co-producing with Phillips.[41] The announcement of the film was met with mixed reactions. Jared Leto, who portrays the Joker in the DCEU, was reportedly displeased with the existence of multiple different contemporary Joker characters.[42]
Warner Bros. pushed for Phillips to cast Leonardo DiCaprio as the Joker,[37] hoping to use his frequent collaborator Scorsese's involvement to lure him.[42] However, Phillips said that Phoenix was the only actor he considered,[43] and that he and Silver wrote the script with Phoenix in mind: "The goal was never to introduce Joaquin Phoenix into the comic book movie universe. The goal was to introduce comic book movies into the Joaquin Phoenix universe."[44] Phoenix said when he learned of the film, he became excited because it was the kind of film he was looking to make, describing it as unique and stating it did not feel like a typical "studio movie".[10] It took him some time to commit to the role, as it intimidated him and he said "oftentimes, in these movies, we have these simplified, reductive archetypes, and that allows for the audience to be distant from the character, just like we would do in real life, where it's easy to label somebody as evil, and therefore say, 'Well, I'm not that.'"[44]
Writing
It was a yearlong process from when we finished the script just to get the new people on board with this vision, because I pitched it to an entirely different team than made it. There were emails about: 'You realize we sell Joker pajamas at Target.' There were a zillion hurdles, and you just sort of had to navigate those one at a time.... At the time, I would curse them in my head every day. But then I have to put it in perspective and go, 'They're pretty bold that they did this.'
– Todd Phillips[11]
Phillips and Silver wrote Jokerthroughout 2017, and the writing process took about a year.[45] According to producer Emma Tillinger Koskoff, it took some time to get approval for the script from Warner Bros., partly because of concerns over the content. Similarly, Phillips commented that there were "a zillion hurdles" during the year-long writing process due to the visibility of the character.[11] Phillips said that while the script's themes may reflect modern society, the film was not intended to be political.[45] The Joker had appeared in several films before, but Phillips thought it was still possible to produce a new story featuring the character. "It's just another interpretation, like people do interpretations of Macbeth," he told The New York Times.[43]
The script draws inspiration from Scorsese films such as Taxi Driver (1976), Raging Bull(1980), and The King of Comedy (1983),[41][37] as well as Phillips' Hangover Trilogy.[46]Other films Phillips has cited as inspiration include character studies released in the 1970s—such as Serpico (1973) and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)—the silent film The Man Who Laughs (1928), and several musicals. Phillips said that aside from the tone, he did not consider Joker that different from his previous work, such as his Hangover films.[45]While the film's premise was inspired by Alan Moore and Brian Bolland's graphic novel Batman: The Killing Joke (1988), which depicts the Joker as a failed stand-up comedian,[11]Phillips said it does not "follow anything from the comic books... That's what was interesting to me. We're not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker."[47] Phillips later clarified that he meant they did not look to a specific comic for inspiration, but rather "picked and chose what we liked" from the character's history.[48]
Phillips and Silver found the most common Joker origin story, in which the character is disfigured after falling into a vat of acid, too unrealistic.[11] Instead, they used certain elements of the Joker lore to produce an original story,[49] which Phillips wanted to feel as authentic as possible.[11] Because the Joker does not have a definitive origin story in the comics, Phillips and Silver were given considerable creative freedom and "pushed each other every day to come up with something totally insane."[45] However, they did try to retain the ambiguous "multiple choice" nature of the Joker's past by positioning the character as an unreliable narrator—with entire storylines simply being his delusions[14]—and left what mental illnesses he suffers from unclear.[37] As such, Phillips said the entire film is open to interpretation.[14]
Pre-production
Following the disappointing critical and financial performance of Justice League (2017), in January 2018 Walter Hamada replaced Jon Berg as the head of DC-based film production at Warner Bros.[50] Hamada sorted through the various DC films in development, canceling some while advancing work on others; the Joker film was expected to begin filming in late 2018 with a small budget.[2] By June, Robert De Niro was under consideration for a supporting role in the film.[51] The deal with Phoenix was finalized in July 2018,[52] after four months of persuasion from Phillips.[11] Immediately afterwards,[52] Warner Bros. officially green-lit the film,[53] titled it Joker, and gave it an October 4, 2019, release date.[54] Warner Bros. described the film as "an exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale".[55]
Scorsese's longtime associate Koskoff joined to produce,[56][57] although Scorsese left his producing duties due to other obligations.[56] Scorsese considered instead serving as an executive producer, but was preoccupied with his film The Irishman.[11] It was also confirmed that the film would have no effect on Leto's Joker[58] and it was expected to be the first in a new series of DC films unrelated to the DCEU.[2] Zazie Beetz was cast in a supporting role,[18] and De Niro entered negotiations in August.[16][59] Frances McDormanddeclined an offer to portray the mother of the Joker, and Frances Conroy was in talks for the role.[60][21] At the end of July, Marc Maron, who had recently finished filming the third season of the web television series GLOW,[32] and Bryan Callen joined the cast.[31][61] Alec Baldwin was cast as Thomas Wayne on August 27, but dropped out two days later due to scheduling conflicts.[24]
Filming
A corrugated silver metal subway train sits with its doors open in a station. Its rollsign reads 0 Local / To Old Gotham all times / Downtown & Tricorner.
A New York City Subway C train with a rollsign for the fictional 0 train left over from filming for Joker
Principal photography commenced in Which anime exactly?September 2018 in New York City,[c] under the working title Romeo.[64]Shortly after filming began, De Niro, Brett Cullen, Shea Whigham, Glenn Fleshler, Bill Camp, Josh Pais, and Douglas Hodge were announced to have joined the film, with Cullen replacing Baldwin.[65][29] Bradley Cooper also joined the film as a producer.[66] The director of photography was Lawrence Sher, with whom Phillips had previously collaborated with for his Hangover films.[29] On September 22, a scene depicting a violent protest took place in Brooklyn, although the station was modified to look like Bedford Park Boulevard station.[67] In late September 2018, filming of robbery scenes took place at the First Central Savings Bank in Astoria, Queens.[68]
According to Beetz, Phillips rewrote the entire script during production; because Phoenix lost so much weight for the film, there would not be an opportunity for reshoots. She recalled: "we would go into Todd's trailer and write the scene for the night and then do it. During hair and makeup we'd memorize those lines and then do them and then we'd reshoot that three weeks later."[69] Phillips recalled Phoenix sometimes walked off-set during filming because he lost self-control and needed to compose himself—to the confusion of other actors, who felt they had done something wrong. De Niro was one of the few Phoenix never walked out on, and De Niro said he was "very intense in what he was doing, as it should be, as he should be."[70]
Filming in Jersey City started on September 30 and shut down Newark Avenue, while filming in November (starting on November 9) shut down Kennedy Boulevard. Filming in Newark began on October 13 and lasted until October 16.[64] Shortly before filming in Newark began, SAG-AFTRA received a complaint that extras were locked in subway carsfor more than three hours during filming in Brooklyn, a break violation. However, the issue was quickly resolved after a representative visited the set.[71] That month, Dante Pereira-Olson and Douglas Hodge joined the cast.[26] Whigham said towards the end of October the film was in "the middle" of production, adding that it was an "intense" and "incredible" experience.[30] By mid-November, filming had moved back to New York.[72] Filming wrapped on December 3, 2018,[73] with Phillips posting a picture on his Instagram feed later in the month to commemorate the occasion.[74]
Post-production
Phillips confirmed he was in the process of editing Joker in March 2019.[75] At CinemaConthe following month, he stated the film was "still taking shape" and said it was difficult to discuss, as he hoped to maintain secrecy.[76] Phillips also stated that most reports surrounding the film were inaccurate, which he felt was because it is "an origin story about a character that doesn't have a definitive origin".[77] Brian Tyree Henry was also confirmed to have a role in the film.[33] The visual effects were provided by Scanline VFX and Shade VFX and supervised by Matthew Giampa and Bryan Godwin, with Erwin Rivera serving as the overall supervisor.[78]
In August 2018, Hildur Guðnadóttir was hired to compose the film's score.[79] Guðnadóttir began writing music after reading the script and met with Phillips, who "had a lot of strong ideas" about how he thought the score should sound. She worked on the Joker score alongside the score for the drama miniseries Chernobyl; Guðnadóttir said switching between the two was challenging because the scores were so different.[80] Additionally, the film features the songs "That's Life" and "Send In the Clowns".[37] The score was released on October 2, 2019 by WaterTower Music.[81]
The film's final budget was $55–70 million, considered by The Hollywood Reporter "a fraction" of the typical budget for a comic book-based film.[2][82][3] In comparison, the previous villain-centric DC film, Suicide Squad (2016), cost $175 million.[37] $25 million of Joker's budget was covered by the Toronto-based financing company Creative Wealth Media.[83] Joker was also the first live-action film in the Batman film franchise to receive an R-rating from the Motion Picture Association of America, due to "strong bloody violence, disturbing behavior, language, and brief sexual images."[84]

Marketing
Phillips has promoted the film by posting set photos on his Instagram feed.[85] On September 21, 2018, he released test footage of Phoenix in-costume as the Joker, with "Laughing" by The Guess Who accompanying the footage.[86] At CinemaCon on April 2, 2019, Phillips unveiled the first trailer for the film,[33] which was released online the following day.[87] The trailer, prominently featuring the song "Smile" performed by Jimmy Durante, generated positive responses, with some commentators comparing it to Taxi Driver and Requiem for a Dream and praising Phoenix's performance.[88][89] Writers described the trailer as dark and gritty,[90] with ComicBook.com's Jenna Anderson feeling it was more like a psychological thriller than a comic book film.[33] Mark Hamill, who voicedthe Joker in the 1992 cartoon Batman: The Animated Series, expressed enthusiasm in a Twitter post.[91][92] Conversely, io9's Germain Lussier said the trailer revealed too little and that it was too similar to photos Phillips posted on Instagram. While he still believed it exhibited potential, Lussier overall thought the trailer was not "a home run".[93] The trailer received over eight million views in the first few hours of release.[94]
On August 25, 2019, Phillips released six brief teasers that contained flashes of writing, revealing the second trailer would be released on August 28.[95] Filmmaker Kevin Smithcommended the trailer, stating he thought the film "would still work even if [DC Comics] didn't exist" and praising its uniqueness.[96]

Release
Joker premiered at the 76th Venice International Film Festival on August 31, 2019, where it received an eight-minute standing ovation and won the Golden Lion award.[97][98] It also screened at the Toronto International Film Festival on September 9, 2019.[99] The film was released theatrically by Warner Bros. Pictures on October 4, 2019 in the United States, and a day earlier in Australia and some other international markets.[100][101]
The film did not play at the Aurora, Colorado movie theater where the 2012 mass shootingoccurred during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises. Three families of victims, as well as the mother of a witness, signed a letter to Warner Bros. with the request.[102] Warner Bros. restricted press access to the red carpet at the United States premiere on September 28, 2019 to photographers only. Additionally, Landmark Theaters has prohibited moviegoers from wearing Joker costumes during its run, while the Los Angeles and New York City Police Departments increased police visibility at area theaters, though they did not receive "any specific threat".[103][104]

Reception
Box office
As of October 4, 2019, Joker has grossed $39.9 million in the United States and Canada, and $57.2 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $97.1 million.[4]
In August 2019, BoxOffice magazine analyst Shawn Robbins wrote that he expected Jokerto gross $60–90 million during its opening weekend in North America.[105] Following the film's premiere, BoxOffice predicted Joker could open to $70–95 million domestically.[106]Later updating to $85–105 million, Robbins suggested it could become the first October release to open to over $100 million, and surpass the record set by Venom in 2018.[107]However, Comscore's senior media analyst Paul Dergarabedian thought the film would open closer to $50 million because it is not a "typical comic-book movie."[108] Three weeks prior to its release, official industry tracking projected the film would debut to $65–80 million, with some estimates going as high as $90 million.[109] The week of its release, Atom Tickets announced pre-sale totals for the film were outpacing those of Venom and It Chapter Two ($91.1 million debut), and that Joker was its second-bestselling R-rated film of 2019 behind John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum.[110] It made $39.9 million on its first day, including $13.3 million from Thursday night previews, besting Venom's respective October records.[3]
Worldwide, the film is projected to debut to around $155 million, including $75 million from 73 overseas territories.[111] It made $5.4 million from four countries on its first day and $18.7 million from 47 in its second, for a two-day total of $24.6 million.[112]
Critical response

Joaquin Phoenix received considerable praise for his performance as the Joker.[113]
On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 69% based on 391 reviews, with an average rating of 7.36/10. The site's critical consensus reads: "Joker gives its infamous central character a chillingly plausible origin story that serves as a brilliant showcase for its star – and a dark evolution for comics-inspired cinema."[114] Metacritic, which uses a weighted average, assigned the film a score of 58 out of 100 based on 55 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews".[115] Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B+" on an A+ to F scale, while those at PostTrak gave it an overall positive score of 84% (with an average 4 out of 5 stars) and a 60% "definite recommend."[3]
Writing for IGN, Jim Vejvoda gave Joker a perfect score, writing the film "would work just as well as an engrossing character study without any of its DC Comics trappings; that it just so happens to be a brilliant Batman-universe movie is icing on the Batfan cake." He found it a powerful and unsettling allegory of contemporary neglect and violence, and described Phoenix's performance as the Joker as engrossing and "Oscar-worthy".[116] Similarly, Xan Brooks of The Guardian who also gave the film a perfect score—called it "gloriously daring and explosive" and appreciated how Phillips used elements from Scorsese films to create an original story.[117] Variety's Owen Gleiberman wrote: "Phoenix is astonishing as a mentally ill geek who becomes the killer-clown Joker in Todd Phillips' neo-Taxi Driverknockout: the rare comic-book movie that expresses what's happening in the real world."[118]
ComicBook.com's Brandon Davis acclaimed Joker as a groundbreaking comic book adaptation that he found scarier than most 2019 horror films. Davis compared it favorably to the 2008 Batman film The Dark Knight, praised the cinematography and performances, and called it a film that needed to be seen to be believed.[119] According to Deadline Hollywood's Pete Hammond, the film redefines the Joker and is "impossible to shake off." Hammond also praised the story and performances, and summarized the film as "a bravura piece of filmmaking that speaks to the world we are actually living in today in ways that few movies do."[120] Peter Travers of Rolling Stone was lost for words in describing Phoenix's performance, calling the film "gut-wrenching" and "simply stupendous".[121]
David Ehrlich of IndieWire was more mixed and gave the film a "C+". He felt that while "Joker is the boldest and most exciting superhero movie since The Dark Knight", it was "also incendiary, confused, and potentially toxic." Ehrlich thought that the film would make DC fans happy and praised Phoenix's performance, but criticized Phillips' direction and the lack of originality.[122] A more critical review came from Glenn Kenny of RogerEbert.com, who gave the film two stars out of four. Though he praised the performances and thought the story worked, Kennedy criticized the social commentary and Phillips' direction, finding the film too derivative and believing its focus was "less in entertainment than in generating self-importance."[123] Time magazine's Stephanie Zacharek, in a negative review, criticized Phoenix's performance as over-the-top and felt that while Phillips tried to "[give] us a movie all about the emptiness of our culture... he's just offering a prime example of it." She argued the plot was nonexistent, "dark only in a stupidly adolescent way," and "stuffed with phony philosophy."[124] Meanwhile, NPR's Glen Weldon thought the film lacked innovation and said its sympathetic take on the Joker was "wildly unconvincing and mundanely uninteresting." Weldon also described Joker as trying too hard to deviate from the comics and, as a result, coming off as an imitation of films like Taxi Driver.[125] Peter Bradshaw from The Guardian called it "the most disappointing film of the year". While praising Phoenix's performance and the first act, he criticized the motivation for violence and the Joker's supposed role in triggering protests against capitalism.[126]
The film generated positive responses from industry figures. DC Comics chief creative officer Jim Lee praised the film as "intense, raw and soulful," and stated that it remained true to the character despite deviating from the source material,[113] while Joker voice actor Mark Hamill thought the film "brilliantly" reinvented the Joker and gave it "[two] thumbs up".[127] Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore called Joker a "cinematic masterpiece" and said it was a "danger to society" if people did not see it.[128]
Social commentary
Joker deals with the themes of mental illness and its effects,[129] and its depiction of the Joker has been described as reminiscent of those who commit mass shootings in the United States as well as members of the online incel community.[130][131] Vejvoda, Hammond, and The Guardian's Christina Newland interpreted the film as a cautionary tale—society's ignorance of those who are less fortunate will create a person like the Joker.[116][120][132] Stephen Kent, writing for The Washington Examiner, described Arthur Fleck as blending shared aspects of mass shooters, and interpreted its message as a reminder that society is riddled with men like the Joker.[130] Writing in People's World, Chauncey K. Robinson said the film "walks a fine line between exploration and validation" of Joker's character and is "ultimately an in-your-face examination of a broken system that creates its own monsters."[133]
Some writers have expressed concern that Joker's sympathetic portrayal of a homicidal maniac could inspire real-world violence.[134][135] Richard Lawson of Vanity Fair found the film was too sympathetic towards "white men who commit heinous crimes" and that the social-politics ideologies represented in the film are "evils that are far more easily identifiable" to people "who shoot up schools and concerts and churches, who gun down the women and men they covet and envy, who let loose some spirit of anarchic animus upon the world—there's almost a woebegone mythos placed on them in the search for answers."[136] Jim Geraghty of National Review wrote he was "worried that a certain segment of America's angry, paranoid, emotionally unstable young men will watch Joaquin Phoenix descending into madness and a desire to get back at society by hurting as many people as possible and exclaim, 'finally, somebody understands me!'"[137]
On September 18, 2019, the United States Army distributed an email warning service members of potential violence at theaters screening the film and noting the Joker character's popularity among the incel community. A separate memo revealed the Army received "credible" information from Texas law enforcement "regarding the targeting of an unknown movie theater during the release."[138] However, according to Deadline Hollywood, the FBI and the United States Department of Homeland Security have found no credible threats surrounding the release of the film.[139] In an interview with TheWrap, Phillips expressed surprise at the backlash, stating, "I think it's because outrage is a commodity, I think it's something that has been a commodity for a while [...] What's outstanding to me in this discourse in this movie is how easily the far left can sound like the far right when it suits their agenda. It's really been eye-opening for me."[140] Phoenix walked out of an interview by The Telegraph when asked if the film could inspire mass shooters. Following this, journalists were disinvited from the premiere at TCL Chinese Theatre, with only photographers being allowed to interact with the filmmakers and cast on the carpet. In a statement to Variety, Warner Bros. said that "A lot has been said about Joker, and we just feel it's time for people to see the film."[141][142][143]
Accolades

List of awards and nominations
AwardDate of ceremonyCategoryRecipient(s) and nominee(s)Result
Golden Trailer Awards[144]May 29, 2019Best Teaser"Maybe Tomorrow", Warner Bros., JAXNominated
Toronto International Film Festival[145]September 10, 2019TIFF Tribute Actor AwardJoaquin PhoenixWon
Venice Film Festival[146][147]September 7, 2019Golden LionJokerWon
Graffetta d'OroJokerWon
Premio Soundtrack Stars AwardHildur GuðnadóttirWon


Future
In contrast to modern comic book films, Joker is intended to be a standalone film with no planned sequels.[76] While Phillips said in August 2019 that he would be interested in making a sequel, depending on the film's performance and if Phoenix is interested,[46] he later clarified that "the movie's not set up to [have] a sequel. We always pitched it as one movie, and that's it."[148] Warner Bros. intends for Joker to launch DC Black, a line of DC Comics-based films unrelated to the DCEU with darker, more experimental material, similar to comic imprints such as Elseworlds.[38][149]


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ok this thread is based because there's so many shill threads but they aren't gonna stop, also didn't read that Ctrl+v nonsense
 
ok this thread is based because there's so many shill threads but they aren't gonna stop, also didn't read that Ctrl+v nonsense
They're annoying, might as well change the forum's name to joker.co
 
i saw the joker with my own eyes
 
I wonder if anyone is gonna go CHOker like the media wants
 
I felt like laughing at the end scenes of the movie, especially when that old cuck took a bullet, but then I remembered there were normcucks all around me.
 
I really really liked that subway scene
 
Is there a good torrent of it yet?
 
Still waiting for Blu ray release.
 
I felt like laughing at the end scenes of the movie, especially when that old cuck took a bullet, but then I remembered there were normcucks all around me.
You should have done the Joker's laugh at that point.
 

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