the.oracle
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So, yesterday I was talking with my grandmother about this matter and later on a fellow .is user came up to me with the same subject, which made me gather some of my thoughts about it. Please hear me out.
We all know the job market is fucked and is consistently getting worse for a majority of people, skilled or unskilled, but here are some of the underlying reasons on why we could be on the verge of a total destruction of the job market and why we're already fucked beyond repair.
From the dawn of times, the necessity of humans have stayed the same, survival and reproduction. Anything that is actually necessary for these goals are natural resources, which includes foids reproductive bodies.
The gathering of natural resources, then, were the first fields of development that were touched by technology, from the birth of agriculture, livestock management, minerals, wood and water extraction, and protection from external natural environment and other human threats (war, conquest, pillaging, etc).
This, in turn, led humans to be able to have "leisure", and from then we started to make up surrogate activities (hope you all have read uncle Ted), such as all of the humanities field and actually even technological fields that go beyond the satisfaction of basic human needs, such as unnecessary technology.
In this way, manual and actual useful work (non-surrogate) became less and less needed and looked down upon (see for instance people migrating from rural to urban areas, exponentially increased with the birth of industries and development of capitalism, etc), and "less qualified" people (non-bullshit, non-surrogate works) have gotten worse and worse payment, work hours and social value.
In the beginning there were few doctors, lawyers, philosophers, politicians, historians, etc, because it was not possible for everyone to do those jobs, most people had to do manual and actual work that provides basic necessities for humans, but increasingly the surrogate jobs became the ones that are actually looked up to as noble and necessary for human development, which is bullshit.
But now, technology has advanced so much that even surrogate jobs are not being needed anymore. Not only because of technological development in those fields, but because the technological development of manual work has advanced so much that now everybody can become a doctor, lawyer, philosopher, politician, historian, HR worker, programmer, etc etc.
These fields, in turn, have become increasingly obsolete and overcrowded with "qualified" people, which is why a basic degree no longer means anything, even fields such as medicine are becoming overcrowded with professionals (not to mention many medical fields are actually surrogate, because many of these services are not actually necessary for a natural and good physical health).
These same jobs, on the other way, require less and less people to actually do it, most of the tasks can now be done by AI and technology and the job of 10 people can now be done by one.
The IT/programming field is a good example of how jobs became increasintly "[UWSL][UWSL]planned obsolescence" or maybe it's unplanned, but new fields of work actually go away faster than old ones. It took many decades for industrial manufacturing jobs to became obsolete and automatized, meanwhile it took a few years for the IT field to become overcrowded and start to pay shit wages and long work hours for meaningless tasks and actual technological inovation.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]Even worse, you can try to learn a new skill and enroll in a course, but by the end of it, it could probably be already outdated and overcrowded. I've seen this in the recent years and decades, every new trend becomes quickly overcrowded, with access to information, everyone can now what the new trend is and try to do it themselves, and really fast those fields become like any other shit job.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]"Qualified" surrogate work is going to be (and already is in most cases) the new wageslavery. I can say that about my own field of work (law). In my country the field is heavily overcrowded and has shit wages for 95% of workers, going even beyond "low skilled jobs" work hours, not to count the stress, depression and lack of actual contribution to development involved in such surrogate meaningless jobs.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
But now that even those "high skill" qualified jobs[UWSL][UWSL] are becoming obsolete and less and less people are being able to find a job at these fields (even less so an actual good job there), we also can't go back to manual and natural jobs as those we did in the beginnings of human development, because they're not needed anymore.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]That's why commies want to push the universal basic income, it's because they know the vast majority of people will not even have shit low skill jobs to do, because all fields have been automatized. You're not special because you became a doctor, lawyers, philosopher, artist, etc, there are tens of millions of those all around and you only need a few of those to get the engine running, these fields will pay less and less and will be done in worse conditions, and no social value will be attached to them.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]For instance, you can see that some decades ago, people would consider that you achieved something by managing to get into those fields, but now it's nothing special, nobody cares and nobody is interested in you just because you have a "good" surrogate regular job.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]Now, we're entering a "post-surrogate" society, where neither low skilled nor high skilled jobs are necessary.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]This is why virtual reality (in which I would include social media and other non-physical means of interaction) is now being pushed as the new panacea. You are no longer needed for anything, so now the only meaning you can achieve is to become "something relevant" in this virtual reality where all humans natural needs have been taken care of.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]It explains why you can gain so much more money by being famous on youtube, social media and onlyfans instead of being a high-skilled doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc etc, which are already types of "bullshit" surrogate jobs, and it goes even less so compared to low-skilled job, which has already been for subhumans for a long time, but now even subhumans are not being able to get these jobs because they exist less and less.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]But, the clownish aspect of this is that that this lack of need for human existence make humans sick to the head (no shit).[/UWSL][/UWSL]
This whole circumstance only proves what Ted could see, meaning comes from fulfilling actual needs, and if you can be socially valued by being able to provide/achieve these needs, you could maybe have a shot at having a wholesome existence.
When you don't need to fight for your survival, you start to have to make up a rational motive for doing so, but as we all know, there is no deeper meaning to life other than achieving our own biological needs[UWSL][UWSL], and thus the value of each human being is increasingly decreasing.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
I believe actual meaning to an individual's life can only become from a "need", it can't be made up and trying to make up a rational reason for your existence will inevitably lead to existential dread and lack of fulfillment, I think we call all see this happening in our reality.
[UWSL][UWSL]Where will this lead us? I don't know. I don't know how humans can live in a post-surrogate society, and for sure this society will not have a place for many of them, which might be the reason why governments push for the decrease of human population and reproductive rates, it's because there will be no place for the upcoming generations.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]Maybe when we are fully [/UWSL][/UWSL]developed into a post-surrogate, post-scarcity world, all of virtual reality and virtual activities will become irrelevant and obsolete. In my opinion, though, it already was from the beginning. It was already a cope made up by human reason to try to replace the lack of meaning brought to us by the development of technology and, first, the lack of need for non-surrogate activities, and second, the further lack of need even for these surrogate activities which are supposed to bring humans to a deeper level of development and human cohesion (we all now the contrary was true, again, read Ted K).
I have my own plans of dealing with this reality if I am to live a few years or decades longer, but i'm not sure it will turn out good for me and for many incels for that matter.
[UWSL][UWSL]Do any of you have any other aspects of this that I might be missing on? I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
We all know the job market is fucked and is consistently getting worse for a majority of people, skilled or unskilled, but here are some of the underlying reasons on why we could be on the verge of a total destruction of the job market and why we're already fucked beyond repair.
From the dawn of times, the necessity of humans have stayed the same, survival and reproduction. Anything that is actually necessary for these goals are natural resources, which includes foids reproductive bodies.
The gathering of natural resources, then, were the first fields of development that were touched by technology, from the birth of agriculture, livestock management, minerals, wood and water extraction, and protection from external natural environment and other human threats (war, conquest, pillaging, etc).
This, in turn, led humans to be able to have "leisure", and from then we started to make up surrogate activities (hope you all have read uncle Ted), such as all of the humanities field and actually even technological fields that go beyond the satisfaction of basic human needs, such as unnecessary technology.
In this way, manual and actual useful work (non-surrogate) became less and less needed and looked down upon (see for instance people migrating from rural to urban areas, exponentially increased with the birth of industries and development of capitalism, etc), and "less qualified" people (non-bullshit, non-surrogate works) have gotten worse and worse payment, work hours and social value.
In the beginning there were few doctors, lawyers, philosophers, politicians, historians, etc, because it was not possible for everyone to do those jobs, most people had to do manual and actual work that provides basic necessities for humans, but increasingly the surrogate jobs became the ones that are actually looked up to as noble and necessary for human development, which is bullshit.
But now, technology has advanced so much that even surrogate jobs are not being needed anymore. Not only because of technological development in those fields, but because the technological development of manual work has advanced so much that now everybody can become a doctor, lawyer, philosopher, politician, historian, HR worker, programmer, etc etc.
These fields, in turn, have become increasingly obsolete and overcrowded with "qualified" people, which is why a basic degree no longer means anything, even fields such as medicine are becoming overcrowded with professionals (not to mention many medical fields are actually surrogate, because many of these services are not actually necessary for a natural and good physical health).
These same jobs, on the other way, require less and less people to actually do it, most of the tasks can now be done by AI and technology and the job of 10 people can now be done by one.
The IT/programming field is a good example of how jobs became increasintly "[UWSL][UWSL]planned obsolescence" or maybe it's unplanned, but new fields of work actually go away faster than old ones. It took many decades for industrial manufacturing jobs to became obsolete and automatized, meanwhile it took a few years for the IT field to become overcrowded and start to pay shit wages and long work hours for meaningless tasks and actual technological inovation.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]Even worse, you can try to learn a new skill and enroll in a course, but by the end of it, it could probably be already outdated and overcrowded. I've seen this in the recent years and decades, every new trend becomes quickly overcrowded, with access to information, everyone can now what the new trend is and try to do it themselves, and really fast those fields become like any other shit job.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]"Qualified" surrogate work is going to be (and already is in most cases) the new wageslavery. I can say that about my own field of work (law). In my country the field is heavily overcrowded and has shit wages for 95% of workers, going even beyond "low skilled jobs" work hours, not to count the stress, depression and lack of actual contribution to development involved in such surrogate meaningless jobs.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
But now that even those "high skill" qualified jobs[UWSL][UWSL] are becoming obsolete and less and less people are being able to find a job at these fields (even less so an actual good job there), we also can't go back to manual and natural jobs as those we did in the beginnings of human development, because they're not needed anymore.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]That's why commies want to push the universal basic income, it's because they know the vast majority of people will not even have shit low skill jobs to do, because all fields have been automatized. You're not special because you became a doctor, lawyers, philosopher, artist, etc, there are tens of millions of those all around and you only need a few of those to get the engine running, these fields will pay less and less and will be done in worse conditions, and no social value will be attached to them.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]For instance, you can see that some decades ago, people would consider that you achieved something by managing to get into those fields, but now it's nothing special, nobody cares and nobody is interested in you just because you have a "good" surrogate regular job.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]Now, we're entering a "post-surrogate" society, where neither low skilled nor high skilled jobs are necessary.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]This is why virtual reality (in which I would include social media and other non-physical means of interaction) is now being pushed as the new panacea. You are no longer needed for anything, so now the only meaning you can achieve is to become "something relevant" in this virtual reality where all humans natural needs have been taken care of.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]It explains why you can gain so much more money by being famous on youtube, social media and onlyfans instead of being a high-skilled doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc etc, which are already types of "bullshit" surrogate jobs, and it goes even less so compared to low-skilled job, which has already been for subhumans for a long time, but now even subhumans are not being able to get these jobs because they exist less and less.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]But, the clownish aspect of this is that that this lack of need for human existence make humans sick to the head (no shit).[/UWSL][/UWSL]
This whole circumstance only proves what Ted could see, meaning comes from fulfilling actual needs, and if you can be socially valued by being able to provide/achieve these needs, you could maybe have a shot at having a wholesome existence.
When you don't need to fight for your survival, you start to have to make up a rational motive for doing so, but as we all know, there is no deeper meaning to life other than achieving our own biological needs[UWSL][UWSL], and thus the value of each human being is increasingly decreasing.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
I believe actual meaning to an individual's life can only become from a "need", it can't be made up and trying to make up a rational reason for your existence will inevitably lead to existential dread and lack of fulfillment, I think we call all see this happening in our reality.
[UWSL][UWSL]Where will this lead us? I don't know. I don't know how humans can live in a post-surrogate society, and for sure this society will not have a place for many of them, which might be the reason why governments push for the decrease of human population and reproductive rates, it's because there will be no place for the upcoming generations.[/UWSL][/UWSL]
[UWSL][UWSL]Maybe when we are fully [/UWSL][/UWSL]developed into a post-surrogate, post-scarcity world, all of virtual reality and virtual activities will become irrelevant and obsolete. In my opinion, though, it already was from the beginning. It was already a cope made up by human reason to try to replace the lack of meaning brought to us by the development of technology and, first, the lack of need for non-surrogate activities, and second, the further lack of need even for these surrogate activities which are supposed to bring humans to a deeper level of development and human cohesion (we all now the contrary was true, again, read Ted K).
I have my own plans of dealing with this reality if I am to live a few years or decades longer, but i'm not sure it will turn out good for me and for many incels for that matter.
[UWSL][UWSL]Do any of you have any other aspects of this that I might be missing on? I'd like to hear your thoughts on the matter.[/UWSL][/UWSL]