caniwin
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This forum contains insights that go beyond the surface-level more so than 99% of places and people I've encountered in my life, both online and offline. And when I say "depth," I'm not referring to knowledge and expertise in a specific subject/area like mathematics, chemistry, psychology, or philosophy. Certainly I've encountered experts in these fields who have an extremely deep understanding of it, and there are plenty of sites online that can provide that same level of complexity. When I say "depth," I'm referring to insights that can be applied to my life and are more general in nature, not applied to a specific area. "Deep" insights are ones that I could have theoretically come up with myself if I thought about it long enough, but which nevertheless significantly contributed to my fundamental understanding about the world. I can confidently say that I've encountered this "depth" on this forum dozens of times already, and I've only cumulatively been on here for about 120 hours. To give an example, off the top of my head, here was a post just yesterday:
I thought that was a really good post that made total sense after reading it, and yet it was something I had never personally arrived at of my own accord. Moreover, it's a general insight that is applicable and relevant to my own life, not some arcane mathematical theorem or factoid of history that doesn't have any effect on me outside of mere interest, and it's something that I could have understood even if I was a young child without really any outside knowledge, assuming the vocabulary in the post was simplified a bit. It really broadened my understanding about life in a small, but unique and profound way, and I see posts like this constantly on this forum. Granted, there is of course a lot of garbage posted here, but there is also much depth.
Contrast this forum with the vast majority of YouTube, virtually all of Reddit, and all social media. If there is any depth, it's subject specific.
Contrast this forum with r/IncelTears; I don't think I even need to expand on that.
Contrast the self-knowledge experiences people share on this forum with most self-help material, which while better than most content on the internet, is in my experience very repetitive, surface-level, and ineffective.
(Tangent: Most of self-help material MUST be surface-level, because the creators mistakenly aim at helping everyone, and it has to sacrifice depth to do that, which actually results in it helping almost no one. In contrast, on this forum, self-knowledge topics almost always take the form of a user simply sharing their personal experiences and the discoveries they've made through their own independent introspection. By not attempting to help others and simply sharing what they've discovered about themselves, such users on this forum actually help people more than other self-help sources, because rather than explicitly telling the reader what to do, which boxes them in and leaves no room for exploration and growth, they instead simply relate their experience and leave it to the reader to take that experience, and use it to inform their own path to self-knowledge. In my opinion, true depth of self-knowledge is only obtained on your own thinking about your life, it can't be obtained any other way, but you can listen to other people's experiences and the insights they've gathered and use that to inform your own journey.)
The irony here is, everyone outside of this forum, whether it be the media, real-life normies, Redditors, or YouTubers, either say or imply that incels are narrow-minded, in an echo chamber, and uninformed. That we oversimplify our problems and aren't nuanced. And yet, while this forum may have its fair share of trash, as any forum does, incels on this forum have shown me more depth and insight about the world in a fundamental way than virtually anyone else ever has.
TL;DR The incels on this forum have ironically demonstrated infinitely more depth to me than anyone else I've encountered, including those who would denigrate us as being "narrow-minded" and "in an echo chamber."
[For Normies & IncelTears] Modern Day Expressions Of Female Sexuality Are Cringe (Just Posturing, Trying To Emulate Male Sexuality - PENIS ENVY)
Sometimes I even wonder if women are sentient, because as soon as a cultural change happens they just fall in line, they don't think for themselves, they don't question whether something makes sense, all society has to do is hail a behavior or mindset as popular & acceptable, and they will take...
incels.is
I thought that was a really good post that made total sense after reading it, and yet it was something I had never personally arrived at of my own accord. Moreover, it's a general insight that is applicable and relevant to my own life, not some arcane mathematical theorem or factoid of history that doesn't have any effect on me outside of mere interest, and it's something that I could have understood even if I was a young child without really any outside knowledge, assuming the vocabulary in the post was simplified a bit. It really broadened my understanding about life in a small, but unique and profound way, and I see posts like this constantly on this forum. Granted, there is of course a lot of garbage posted here, but there is also much depth.
Contrast this forum with the vast majority of YouTube, virtually all of Reddit, and all social media. If there is any depth, it's subject specific.
Contrast this forum with r/IncelTears; I don't think I even need to expand on that.
Contrast the self-knowledge experiences people share on this forum with most self-help material, which while better than most content on the internet, is in my experience very repetitive, surface-level, and ineffective.
(Tangent: Most of self-help material MUST be surface-level, because the creators mistakenly aim at helping everyone, and it has to sacrifice depth to do that, which actually results in it helping almost no one. In contrast, on this forum, self-knowledge topics almost always take the form of a user simply sharing their personal experiences and the discoveries they've made through their own independent introspection. By not attempting to help others and simply sharing what they've discovered about themselves, such users on this forum actually help people more than other self-help sources, because rather than explicitly telling the reader what to do, which boxes them in and leaves no room for exploration and growth, they instead simply relate their experience and leave it to the reader to take that experience, and use it to inform their own path to self-knowledge. In my opinion, true depth of self-knowledge is only obtained on your own thinking about your life, it can't be obtained any other way, but you can listen to other people's experiences and the insights they've gathered and use that to inform your own journey.)
The irony here is, everyone outside of this forum, whether it be the media, real-life normies, Redditors, or YouTubers, either say or imply that incels are narrow-minded, in an echo chamber, and uninformed. That we oversimplify our problems and aren't nuanced. And yet, while this forum may have its fair share of trash, as any forum does, incels on this forum have shown me more depth and insight about the world in a fundamental way than virtually anyone else ever has.
TL;DR The incels on this forum have ironically demonstrated infinitely more depth to me than anyone else I've encountered, including those who would denigrate us as being "narrow-minded" and "in an echo chamber."