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Serious Was Romanian Facism the most Based?

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@BummerDrummer talks about America or Europe Conservatives but Romania was far more based

Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Leader of the Iron Guard

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His Party

Flag of the Legionary Movement


They believed in Legionarism

Historian
Stanley G. Payne writes in his study of Fascism, "The Legion was arguably the most unusual mass movement of interwar Europe." It was distinguished among other contemporaneous European fascist movements with respect to its understanding of nationalism, which was indelibly tied to religion. According to Ioanid, the Legion "willingly inserted strong elements of Orthodox Christianity into its political ideology to the point of becoming one of the rare modern European political movements with a religious ideological structure."

The movement's leader, Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, was a religious nationalist who aimed at a spiritual resurrection for the nation, writing the movement was a "spiritual school...[which] strikes to transform and revolutionise the Romanian soul." According to Codreanu's philosophy, human life was a sinful, violent political war, which would ultimately be transcended by the spiritual nation. In this schema, the Legionnaire might have to perform actions beyond the simple will to fight, suppressing the preserving instinct for the sake of the country.

Like many other fascist movements, the Legion called for a revolutionary "new man", though this was not defined in physical terms, as with the Nazis, but was aimed at recreating and purifying oneself to bring the whole nation closer to God.


One of the qualities of this new man was selflessness; Codreanu wrote "When a politician enters a party the first question that he puts is 'what can I gain from this?...when a legionary enters the Legion he says 'For myself I want nothing'".


The Legion lacked a well-developed and consistent economic policy, though it generally promoted the idea of a communal or national economy, rejecting
capitalism as overly materialistic

The movement considered its main enemies to be the present political leadership and the Jews.

Legionarism
• Ultranationalism
• Greater Romania
• Christian nationalism
• Right-wing populism
• Class collaboration
• National conservatism
• Social conservatism
• Economic nationalism
• Clerical fascism


View: https://youtu.be/ph8BoXA5E34


But it didn't last


Once in power, Sima and Antonescu quarreled bitterly. According to historian Stanley G. Payne, Antonescu intended to create a situation analogous to that of Francisco Franco's regime in Spain, in which the Legion would be subordinated to the state. He demanded that Sima cede overall leadership of the Legion to him, but Sima refused.

Sima demanded that the government follow the 'legionary spirit', and all major offices be held by legionaries. Other groups were to be dissolved. Economic policy, said Sima, should be coordinated closely with Germany.


Style

Members wore dark green uniforms, which symbolized renewal, and accounted for them being occasionally referenced as "Greenshirts" (Cămășile verzi). Like fascist counterparts in Italy, Spain, and Germany, legionnaires greeted each other using the Roman salute.

The main symbol of the Iron Guard was a triple cross (a variant of the triple parted and fretted one), standing for prison bars (as a badge of martyrdom), and sometimes referred to as the "Archangel Michael Cross" (Crucea Arhanghelului Mihail).

The Legion developed a cult of martyrdom and self-sacrifice, best exemplified by the action group, Echipa morții, or "Death Squad". Codreanu claimed the name was chosen because members were ready to accept death while campaigning for the organization. A chapter of the Legion was called a cuib, or "nest," and was arranged around the virtues of discipline, work, silence, education, mutual aid, and honor.



View: https://youtu.be/rIU3-9ZclXs


Legionary architecture​

Through their summer work camps, the Legionnaires performed volunteer work involving the construction and reparation of roads, bridges, churches and schools in rural areas. One notable construction of the Iron Guard is the "Green House" (Casa Verde). Built in the Romanian architectural style, this building on the outskirts of 1930s Bucharest served as the Legion's headquarters and home to Codreanu. The intention of these camps was to cultivate athleticism, discipline, sense of community and elimination of certain societal divisions. Horia Sima stated that the camps "destroyed class prejudice" by bringing together those from different classes. The attendees were not allowed to leave the camp except for emergencies and in their free time were to read literature. Following completion of camp time a diploma was received.

Quotes

“The country is dying cause of an lack of men, not a lack of programms.”

“Its culture: the fruit of its life, the product of its own efforts in thought and art. This culture is not international. It is the expression of the national genius, of the blood. The culture is international in its brilliance but national in origin. Someone made a fine comparison: bread and wheat may be internationally consumed, but they always bear the imprint of the soil from which they came.”


“Legionary life is beautiful, not because of riches, partying or the acquisition of luxury, but because of the noble comradeship which binds all Legionaries in a sacred brotherhood of struggle.”

“If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it.”

“May God accept my suffering, for the well-being and prosperity of our Nation. Pain upon pain, suffering upon suffering, agony upon agony, wound upon wound in our bodies and in our souls, fall after fall: in this way shall we conquer.”
 
I don't like these otherworldly vague coping concepts.

[UWSL]Prefer socialism; strictly rooted in the material conditions.[/UWSL]
 
dunno but that guy is gigachad

@Legionarivs
 
I don't like these otherworldly vague coping concepts.

[UWSL]Prefer socialism; strictly rooted in the material conditions.[/UWSL]
The moral and social health of a nation is infinitely more pertinent than its financial health
 
The moral and social health of a nation is infinitely more pertinent than its financial health
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See this is what I mean. Just starve bro, our religion will be our bread.
 
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See this is what I mean. Just starve bro, our religion will be our bread.
Any system which holds anything money related as the most important aspect of a governmental system is wrong in my view, but since the obvious needs stating, money is one of the top contributing factors to general happiness, the main others are family life and collective wellbeing. A government should be more focussed on social amelioration than any sort of whole scale economic reform, a country’s GDP doesn’t measure the happiness of its people, but neither does its minimum wage. Also ironic you mention starvation, how many starved to death in Ukraine and China? Doubly ironic you mention religion, a grand narrative such as religion is the main coagulant in a social fabric. When people have at least one thing in common it improves social cohesion, all you need to do is have a look at how political dogma and personality cult suddenly appeared as religion collapsed and it shows you that something like a common religion vastly improves a society.
 
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See this is what I mean. Just starve bro, our religion will be our bread.
Both are important.

There is nothing mutually exclusive about both things. When you just have food/water as material needs satisfied you survive/exist, but the other needs (wanting to belong to something greater than oneself/being part of a movement/belonging to something/believing in a higher ideal) also need to be satisfied.

In Japan and most of Western Europe you can have quite a decent life materialistically speaking but still many people off themselves or drop out of society because their other needs aren't satisfied. You need both ideas and matter to truly live (with only matter you survive/exist).
 

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