[Serious] What do you expect politicians and society do for us? What are your REALISTIC demands?

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Here's some of things I'd like to see happening:

1 - The mainstream media and people admitting the Blackpill is real and very present in our society; Also recognizing that women care more about looks than men, and that women are the choosers in relationships.

2 - Recognize facial unattractiveness on men as a form of disability that denies them unpaid sex and stable relationships, so that way healthcare plans can cover plastic surgeries even if it's simple ones.

3 - Make slut shaming common and something to be expected (virgin shaming is a thing, then why not shaming something actually harmful); What I mean is, publicly shaming women that sleep around a lot with different men, and that are picky and shallow about their choices. That's objectively the best way to counter hypergamy and to enforce women into monogamy. While Chads also fuck random people a lot, there's often more merit in their actions than there's for many women who just have exist to have SMV.

4 - Worldwide legalization of prostitution, and making it very accessible and encouraged as well (in such a way that even average looking women would like be part of in large numbers). The governments would just have to be careful and require hookers/escorts to do monthly exams on STDs. Socialist/Leftist countries could even help Incels by funding them for escorts through welfare politics, that well they could tackle on male loneliness/sexlessness issues and reduce male suicide rates.

5 - Legalizing euthanasia/assisted suicide everywhere. We know genetics determine someone's fate upon birth, and some just lose this lottery and are fated to a very harsh life, that sometimes it isn't really worth going through.
 
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Realistic demand is take women's right to vote away
 
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I hope 1 and 4 to be true. But the true way to correct inceldom is genetic engineering, but they never will let this happen.
 
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Just because we have shit genes doesn't mean slut shaming is ok. Virgin shaming is not okay either. Being sub4 should allow being considered a minority. Prostitution should be legal but still have to pay for it. Thinking the world owes you something is cope however we should have liberty.
 
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Socialized looksmax. Fuckbuxx. Government girlfriend / sex therapist. Hormone and blood screening for all children and young adults. Good nutrition for poor people. Reduced work hours.

Slut shaming is cope, see Saudi Arabia. They will just clam up more and chad fucks them secretly anyway.

Autism and lookism awareness.

Culture should generally become more open for sex like in some tribal cultures.

All this will never happen without a major shift to an economically leftist system though.
 
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Take away ALL rights from women would solve the problem
 
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Just because we have shit genes doesn't mean slut shaming is ok. Virgin shaming is not okay either. Being sub4 should allow being considered a minority. Prostitution should be legal but still have to pay for it. Thinking the world owes you something is cope however we should have liberty.
Slut shaming was always OK throughout the history of humanity, it made monogamy work and families as institutions work because it made sex secondary.
 
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Just because we have shit genes doesn't mean slut shaming is ok. Virgin shaming is not okay either. Being sub4 should allow being considered a minority. Prostitution should be legal but still have to pay for it. Thinking the world owes you something is cope however we should have liberty.
Cuck detected. Sex is a basic human necessity.
Slut shaming was always OK throughout the history of humanity, it made monogamy work and families as institutions work because it made sex secondary.
Families are an invention of the 19th/20th century by the elites to atomize broader communities, pit people against each other and increase consumerism. Nothing makes sex secondary petacope. You either get enough or not.
 
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- Enforced monogamy

- Make bars/night clubs illegal for women

- Make online dating illegal

- Social media illegal for women

- Make all contraceptives (including condoms) illegal

- Remove female vote


Just doing this should massively restrict female sexuality and reduce the amount of male incels.
 
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Cuck detected. Sex is a basic human necessity.

Families are an invention of the 19th/20th century by the elites to atomize broader communities, pit people against each other and increase consumerism. Nothing makes sex secondary petacope. You either get enough or not.
How can I be a cuck, I'm too ugly to even betabuxx or have female friends. Too ugly to even be a cuck... If I had the option to cuck it would be a massive upgrade. Food is also a necessity, doesn't mean there aren't people in the world who starve. If you are born with shit genetics you are meant to live a sexless life, best to accept this reality since nothing you can do will change it. You need to at least be low tier normie to be a cuck, bellow that you are nothing at all.
 
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Honestly there's no much those cucks politicians can do because women are the prime consumers and voters of these pieces of shit. Anything they do to help us will be seen as an attack on women.
 
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Realistic demand is take women's right to vote away
Taking rights is an unrealistic demand.


Socialized looksmax. Fuckbuxx. Government girlfriend / sex therapist. Hormone and blood screening for all children and young adults. Good nutrition for poor people. Reduced work hours.

Slut shaming is cope, see Saudi Arabia. They will just clam up more and chad fucks them secretly anyway.

Autism and lookism awareness.

Culture should generally become more open for sex like in some tribal cultures.

All this will never happen without a major shift to an economically leftist system though.
I think we should rely more on economic liberalism than government gibs, in the end. That's why I think prostitution should be commonplace.

- Enforced monogamy

- Make bars/night clubs illegal for women

- Make online dating illegal

- Social media illegal for women

- Make all contraceptives (including condoms) illegal

- Remove female vote


Just doing this should massively restrict female sexuality and reduce the amount of male incels.

Again, taking rights is an unrealistic demand.

And making contraceptives illegal is a low IQ demand unless you are an accelerationist, it would cause an explosion of single moms that rely on gibs and also would lead to social collapse.

Every ugly man gets free plastic surgery no questions asked
Unrealistic, but we could try to at least make private healthcare plans to cover minor surgeries. If mental health is covered, so should be cosmetic surgeries because looks are part of mental health and also enable us to get sex (which is a human need).

Honestly there's no much those cucks politicians can do because women are the prime consumers and voters of these pieces of shit. Anything they do to help us will be seen as an attack on women.
They don't identify with our problems (yet) because they are either wealthmaxxed cucks or sugar daddies/escortcels that don't care about regular relationships.

They won't listen to us regardless of what we say or ask for, fuck them tbh.
We rarely have this kind of discussions, tbh. Most of the time we rant about foids and how life was miserable to us.
 
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You are cuck because you appeal to nature. Just because it is natural it doesn't have to be good or beneficial. No one is meant do anything on this stupid rock, jfl. Being an incel neither benefits you nor society.
No blackpill is about finding truth no matter how terrible it is. Good or beneficial are not considerations when you are too much of an outcast to even be a cuck.
 
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How can I be a cuck, I'm too ugly to even betabuxx or have female friends. Too ugly to even be a cuck... If I had the option to cuck it would be a massive upgrade. Food is also a necessity, doesn't mean there aren't people in the world who starve. If you are born with shit genetics you are meant to live a sexless life, best to accept this reality since nothing you can do will change.
You are cuck because you appeal to nature. Just because it is natural it doesn't have to be good or beneficial. No one is meant do anything on this stupid rock, jfl. Being an incel neither benefits you nor society.
No blackpill is about finding truth no matter how terrible it is. Good or beneficial are not considerations when you are too much of an outcast to even be a cuck.
Because truth is acting irrationally against the benefit of society and yourself desoite ther ebeing betetr options, okay....

Without the right environmental technological and societal backing tons of today's prospering people would be useless and starve in the savannah. Solving the incel problem is just another step in our societal evolution.
 
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We rarely have this kind of discussions, tbh. Most of the time we rant about foids and how life was miserable to us.
Need to stop being victims and push for our right to exist. Yes it will be a shit sexless life. We still exist however and we deserve to be respected.
Solving the incel problem is just another step in our societal evolution.
There is hope with genetic engineering. Beyond over for current gen incels.
 
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1 - Women's right to vote deleted

2 - L*ftoids deleted from existence

3 - Neo-liberalism deleted

4 - Women and Men must be forced to cover most of their bodies up

5 - God is recognised as the only head of state. Monarchs and Career politicians deleted

6 - Each man is given 10 acres of land to farm and a wife
 
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There is hope with genetic engineering. Beyond over for current gen incels.
There are enough other things that can be done in the intermediary. The biggest problem is funding anyway. Even in the future we would need an elite that is willing to pay for this.
 
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I think we should rely more on economic liberalism than government gibs, in the end. That's why I think prostitution should be commonplace.
You can have as much liberalism as you want, but if you don't have the financial means from the beginning it is over for you. :feelskek:

You'll never be able to level the playing field in any regard (looks, education whatever) if peoples necessities are not unconditionally covered. It is already hard enough as it is between people without differing financial means aka your genetic disposition alone.
 
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Women should have to pay "sex tax" because they have more opportunities to have sex. This tax would be used to pay for their abortions (because they want goverment payed abortions) and other forms of birth control.
 
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Realistic demand is take women's right to vote away
I get where you are coming from, but taking women's rights away will lead to a civil war, high rates in suicide, etc, and there is also too many women getting in a position of power for it to happen at this point tbh
Women should have to pay "sex tax" because they have more opportunities to have sex. This tax would be used to pay for their abortions (because they want goverment payed abortions) and other forms of birth control.
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Again, taking rights is an unrealistic demand.
Well if you take that road, giving rights to men is also unrealistic. Women and normies will keep voting them out.

And making contraceptives illegal is a low IQ demand unless you are an accelerationist, it would cause an explosion of single moms that rely on gibs and also would lead to social collapse.
It would only do that if you keep giving government hand-out's to women. No women should be given ANY free money under any circumstances, even pregnancy.

If you remove financial aid to women, monogamy will increase, it's inevitable. Hypergamy is extremely cucked, it makes things worst for incels because it make all women go for chads, this is a well known fact.

In fact the birth control pill was one of the major cause of mass divorce (and therefore single moms).

 
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As much as I hate women, I am against taking their rights away and all that shit. Let the holes be holes, we can't change them. We can only delude ourselves that we can.

What I want is incel problem to be taken serious. Legalise prostitution. Let us have FREE surgeries for lookmaxxing.

Make testosterone and hgh legal for incel kids. (it's literally been used in many cases and the danger is really non existent.

Stop the virgin shaming. And yes, I am fine with slut shaming being banned as well. We should all be free, I could not give less fucks.

Red pill and black pill should be mainstream and taught to boys since age 13. Men deserve to know womans true nature and we should eradicate this "women are beautiful princesses" from the media. They are awful. No man should ever trust a woman.

As for parenting, I want men getting custody of their male children while women get custody of their female children. With that said, every parent should have absolute right to visit their child from opposite gender and be in their lives. By making gender type custody, I don’t want other parent to lose their contact with child.

There shouldn't be "ops am pregnant" kind od bullshit from women. If you plan to have a child with someone, first you sign a contract with a person you want to reproduce. That would stop women from hunting rich guys to pump them so they can get the money.

With that said, if 2 ppl have child, they aren't family and the child ends up being a male, a woman needs to pay for child support since the child goes to father. And vice versa.

Alcohol, strip clubs and hookers should be legal from age 16. Of course holes can reject to fuck minors, but there will always be holes to take the money and do it.

The extreme bullies should be punished by being kicked out of school with no way of getting in any other school in the country. They should be publicly shamed and whoever hires them should be shamed too, and thus their business might fail.

We need to let males have conflicts betweeb eachother, absolutely, but bullying is something different and should be punished.

Beating up someone that is weaker than you and refuses to fight u should be punished and seen as bullying, UNLESS the person actually does something to make another person beat them up. In that case it's fine.

We need to have spy camera on our glasses or wherever, so that we can prove there was an incident of bullying or whatever we try to prove. But only police can open the spy videos we make, at our request. So we can't just make videos of people to use it against them later on or to just mock them.

Males and femoids need to have separate classes.

Loving a hole should be seen as a sign of weakness in male community.
Women should have to pay "sex tax" because they have more opportunities to have sex. This tax would be used to pay for their abortions (because they want goverment payed abortions) and other forms of birth control.
This too.
 
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1. Legalisation-Decriminalization of prostitution & All "Sex work"

2. Better anti STI drugs as well as contraceptives

3. Lookism/ heightism/ cacophobia in addition to racism & ableism being classified as discrimination in the work place etc so you're not poor/ hate crimes if you're bullied because of them

4. Government subsidised escortcelling & consequent tax breaks for sex workers seeing those Escortcels.

5. Government grants into better plastic surgery & orthopaedic surgery such as scoliosis correction, leg lengthening & spine & arm lengthening

6. Government grants for research & development into better drugs for us low SMV males

7. Government subsidised plastic & orthopaedic surgery etc.

8. Acknowledging that point 3 exists

9. Sex robots.

10. Government grants for single dad's & better care for them

11. Legalise & grants for female surrogates of children for single dad's

12. Artificial wombs for children to be created & nurtured possibly even in advanced sex robots.

Tell me :bluepill: ers what's wrong with that?
 
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I'm not militant, I don't want anybody's rights taken away. I just want foids to be held responsible for the decisions they make.
  • virgin-shaming should be as taboo as slut-shaming is
  • stop using taxpayer money to fund abortions and single mothers since those are both caused by women as a whole refusing to have sex with a large portion of taxpayers. They can wring those funds out of chad if she can prove which chad impregnated her.
  • media needs to stop writing pieces about "men not wanting to get married" and such, and acknowledge the role that foids are playing in the collapse of society.
  • adult virginity should be seen in the same light as unemployment or college debt; ie treat it as a problem for society to address rather than an individual's problems caused by that individual's own failure.
 
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1 Make prostitution illegal or heavily sanctioned by the goverment
2 If you're going to make ciritsising niggers illegal you may as well do it for incels
3 cant think of another reason but i like the three point format
Women should have to pay "sex tax" because they have more opportunities to have sex. This tax would be used to pay for their abortions (because they want goverment payed abortions) and other forms of birth control.
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Here's some of things I'd like to see happening:

1 - The mainstream media and people admitting the Blackpill is real and very present in our society; Also recognizing that women care more about looks than men, and that women are the choosers in relationships.

2 - Recognize facial unattractiveness on men as a form of disability that denies them unpaid sex and stable relationships, so that way healthcare plans can cover plastic surgeries even if it's simple ones.

3 - Make slut shaming common and something to be expected (virgin shaming is a thing, then why not shaming something actually harmful); What I mean is, publicly shaming women that sleep around a lot with different men, and that are picky and shallow about their choices. That's objectively the best way to counter hypergamy and to enforce women into monogamy. While Chads also fuck random people a lot, there's often more merit in their actions than there's for many women who just have exist to have SMV.

4 - Worldwide legalization of prostitution, and making it very accessible and encouraged as well (in such a way that even average looking women would like be part of in large numbers). The governments would just have to be careful and require hookers/escorts to do monthly exams on STDs. Socialist/Leftist countries could even help Incels by funding them for escorts through welfare politics, that well they could tackle on male loneliness/sexlessness issues and reduce male suicide rates.

5 - Legalizing euthanasia/assisted suicide everywhere. We know genetics determine someone's fate upon birth, and some just lose this lottery and are fated to a very harsh life, that sometimes it isn't really worth going through.
Only two of the things you mentioned are even realistic (#4 and #5), the first 3 will never become a reality, and #4 is the one that is the most feasible, its going to be very hard to get suicide legalized
 
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-equal treatment under the law
-no more quotas or affirmative action
-women be held responsible for their actions
-no more arresting men with little to no evidence
-punish women for false accusations
-legalize prostitution
 
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There's another one that is important that I forgot to mention: make Looksmax/Lookism coaches a thing.

A paid professional that gives us complete advice on how to improve our looks in order to slay, telling us what facial surgeries do we need, what kind of body we should aim for, which workout routine and diet we should take, what kind of cosmetics do we need to use, and what kind of clothing should we use daily.
 
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I gave a lot of thought into this thread, and TBH, there is no realistic way that society can change in incels favor. Society's politics are the way they are because women have been given a political voice, and the way to make life less shitty for men with incel-traits (i.e. unattractiveness and introversion) is to take away the voice that women have been given.
 
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I gave a lot of thought into this thread, and TBH, there is no realistic way that society can change in incels favor. Society's politics are the way they are because women have been given a political voice, and the way to make life less shitty for men with incel-traits (i.e. unattractiveness and introversion) is to take away the voice that women have been given.
Even some women are beginning to admit that male suicide rates are alarming in some countries, and that men are far more unprivileged than women.
If nothing gets done to fix it, violent acts will grow exponentially and women are also on the risk on getting some of their basic rights regressed because of the growing crowds of angry men, so they have reasons to worry.


 
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My take :

No more mention of gender in any law whatsoever. Are we supposed to be equal in front of the law or is it just BS ? If it's not BS then the Law should pretend gender doesn't exist. And yes, that would mean people will be allowed to discriminate according to gender. Only the government is supposed not to discriminate. Individuals are free to have preferences.

I don't want to pay for other people's reproduction. So no public subsidy whatsoever for anything related to sex or children. Stop the institutionalization of cuckolding.

Fucking legalize prostitution in all its forms. It's none of the State business and it's outrageous that while women can tease men all they want, men can't even pay to release this sexual tension.

Legalize paternity tests, and more generally genetic testings of all sorts. People should have the right to know who they are and what they are made of. Otherwise people born with "something wrong" will always be haunted by questions about themselves and they won't find the answers if they can't access to their biological data. In the past those people would just blame God's will or something but nowadays people don't believe in God so they want true explanations.
 
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- Enforced monogamy

- Make bars/night clubs illegal for women

- Make online dating illegal

- Social media illegal for women

- Make all contraceptives (including condoms) illegal

- Remove female vote


Just doing this should massively restrict female sexuality and reduce the amount of male incels.
this with stoning as punishment.
and perhaps a general internet ban as well. foids could purchase little tablets with preloaded wikipedia/cooking/gardening/etc apps.
definitely a smartphone ban.
and hollywood ban.
also ban all tv channels that are not science, sports or cooking/gardening
also stop 'educating' them. it does no good for anyone. have them learn household jobs, basic math and language and perhaps something creative/artistic like knitting or painting or whatever but that's it. they should be ready by the ripe age of 13
 
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this with stoning as punishment.
and perhaps a general internet ban as well. foids could purchase little tablets with preloaded wikipedia/cooking/gardening/etc apps.
definitely a smartphone ban.
and hollywood ban.
also ban all tv channels that are not science, sports or cooking/gardening
also stop 'educating' them. it does no good for anyone. have them learn household jobs, basic math and language and perhaps something creative/artistic like knitting or painting or whatever but that's it. they should be ready by the ripe age of 13
Cope, foids will still get Chadstruck upon sighting a good looking high T male on the street even if they don't know how are Chads supposed to look like.
Beauty/attractiveness is not subjective, and no lack of media appeal will discourage women from pursuing sex with Chads .
 
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I hope 1 and 4 to be true. But the true way to correct inceldom is genetic engineering, but they never will let this happen.
i saw an article long time ago that a chinese guy illegally gene edited babies to be immune to HIV. If it goes wrong then normie governments will take another 1000 centuries until gene engineering is legal again, if its succesfull and they don't die before the age of 1 then gene engineering might be coming quicker.
 
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Men need to simply refuse to marry non-virgins. Unless the government is run by a king with a nationwide harem ("single suitor" to parody a political term), this needs broad social backing, not government enforcement.
Prostitution is not the answer. Foids need to be economically forced to earn their way in life by honest application of their brains and opposable thumbs the way men have always done.
 
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the true way to correct inceldom is genetic engineering, but they never will let this happen.
We can bring that technology to other countries that WILL allow it. Just because a few dumbasses refuse the usage of this technology in their countries doesn't mean we can bring the technology elsewhere where it is allowed.
 
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Prostitution is not the answer. Foids need to be economically forced to earn their way in life by honest application of their brains and opposable thumbs the way men have always done.

agreed. A lot of guys in this forum support legalized prostitution, and I get it —- we want to experience sex without the competition and jumping through the unrealistic hoops that women place. But my issue with legalized prostitution is that’s its easy money (yes it is! —- it’s rare that a customer is going to be a violent creep, contrary to media portrayals). It’s easy money, and as long as a woman does not have a physical deformity, she can and will sell. It also enrages me when I read about escorts making thousands of dollars per month while I’m barely making it

And going back to how “hard” prostitution is....whores say it’s hard because most guys that pay for sex are ugly. It wouldn’t be an awful job if Chads were lining up to pay.
 
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It’s easy money, and as long as a woman does not have a physical deformity, she can and will sell. It also enrages me when I read about escorts making thousands of dollars per month while I’m barely making it
It's better than e-thots, strippers or camgirls getting showered with money without even selling actual sex.

Or just fashion models. Or even barmaids.

Females have plenty of ways to monetize the attractiveness of their body. At least with prostitution we get actual action.

Prostitution is a way to cut all the BS.

And going back to how “hard” prostitution is....whores say it’s hard because most guys that pay for sex are ugly. It wouldn’t be an awful job if Chads were lining up to pay.
Prostitution is not hard, but it's disgusting and humiliating.
 
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The "realistic demands" are that we have to accept this shit or go ER. Tbh there is no realistic demand of a sub8 man. A sub8 has to be happy to not get mass killed inside incel gaschambers
 
azakhan

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Nothing really. They can't give me what I want.
 
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The "realistic demands" are that we have to accept this shit or go ER. Tbh there is no realistic demand of a sub8 man. A sub8 has to be happy to not get mass killed inside incel gaschambers
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i think your demands are great and well presented so i agree.and one more thing to think about is sex therapy for incels covered by the gov as i think this would help.
 
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Men need to simply refuse to marry non-virgins. Unless the government is run by a king with a nationwide harem ("single suitor" to parody a political term), this needs broad social backing, not government enforcement.
Prostitution is not the answer. Foids need to be economically forced to earn their way in life by honest application of their brains and opposable thumbs the way men have always done.
prostitution IS the answer because good luck convincing a horde of betas and soys that they should demand a pure waifu when they are insanely desperate for any foid contact. if they could get it out of their system like in the good old times, foid value would plummet overnight. they also need to be shamed for interacting with used holes which is tricky because 95%+ of people form their opinions based on tv/movies/celebrities
 
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I will vote for anyone who will give me my cute waifu.
 
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I'm on board with everything, except number 2. You can't, unfortunately, classify bad genes as some sort of disability.
 
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