Serious Inceldom has nothing to do with looks

[AsiaCel]

Before you chimpout at me for saying this, consider this - is the average man so ugly that he shouldn't even have a partner? Why are most incels, even on "hardcore" forums like this one, are average looking? Is the average man so "ugly"that 50% something young men are virgin or otherwise struggling?

Those who truly deviate from the norms of the average man, that is to say, 5'1 or 6'4, are very rare and basically statistically irrelevant.

All of this reinforces my point, not deny it.

There, i said it. Inceldom is a issue that will be present on the mass scale no matter how tall the average man is, how good looking he is. Why, Nordic countries, despite having the highest average height in the world and the fact that their features are seen as attractive, have along the highest living standards in the world, have to import so many SEA wives? Logically speaking, they should be having no issues.

The idea that increasing the average attractiveness of the men in a society, is bunch of garbage. Having attractive men works for racemixing with foids of other tribes, but in the next generations, it will bounce back towards the current norm, as women and men become more mixed and closer to the native SMV, and we are back at square one.

So what is the long term solution to the incel problem, that would work regardless of society and cultural norms? TAKE AWAY WOMEN RIGHTS!

Women rights is the elephant in the room. If you played the old Mario 64, there were locked doors in which you had to earn keys to open; which requires you to win at levels. But that is the key here, in real life, "levels" are steps towards taking women rights away, and nothing can bypass it. The stupid boomer politicians can continue being ostriches burying their head in the sand in face of danger, but this is ineffective against predators, and as such, the "ostriches" (politicians) will eventually give in to the predators (incels).

 

[Skoga]

I am definitely not average looking. I'm literally like bottom 0.00001% of smv. I only mog burn victims and deformeds.

 

[AsiaCel]

Before anyone chimpout I'm talking about on a societal level, but it also affects men individually.

 

[AsiaCel]

I am definitely not average looking. I'm literally like bottom 0.00001% of smv. I only mog burn victims and deformeds.

You say your a shortcel..how tall are you?

 

[Skoga]

You say your a shortcel..how tall are you?

5'5, imo shortcel is 5'8 and below. 5'8-5'9+ is normie

 

[AsiaCel]

5'5, imo shortcel is 5'8 and below. 5'8-5'9+ is normie

What's the average height in your country?

 

[Biowaste Removal]

If you're not extremely short (under 5'7 unfrauded) or extremely ugly (no major deformities, not having the "subhuman" package or a weird /heavily stigmatized phenotype), not balding and not south asian you should at least be able to pull a LTB. If not then non-NT

 

[AsiaCel]

If you're not extremely short (under 5'7 unfrauded) or extremely ugly (no major deformities, not having the "subhuman" package or a weird fucking phenotype) or not south asian you should at least be able to pull a LTB. If not then non-NT

Should is the keyword here, but in modern society, such a man would get nothing, condemned to the deepest pit of hell just as his 5'1 janitor brethren are.

 

[Skoga]

What's the average height in your country?

For men it's 180cm, for women It's 165cm. I'm basically the average height for women

 

[Biowaste Removal]

Should is the keyword here, but in modern society, such a man would get nothing, condemned to the deepest pit of hell just as his 5'1 janitor brethren are.

Modernity is cope. Incels have always existed. @StonePath

 

[CopingForBrutality]

If you're not extremely short (under 5'7 unfrauded) or extremely ugly (no major deformities, not having the "subhuman" package or a weird /heavily stigmatized phenotype), not balding and not south asian you should at least be able to pull a LTB. If not then non-NT

 

[Fatass3000]

the average person isn't a virgin, the percentage of virgins is between 10-20%. There are average people here who are incel because they're autistic as shit

 

[AsiaCel]

Modernity is cope. Incels have always existed. @StonePath

Again that's a very white and black view. It's not like a computer where it only reads 0 or 1.

Incels have always existed. There have always been crippled men that are literally retarded or deform, it's simply nature and unfixable even with civilization.

But, the problem arises when 50%+ of young men are incel.

 

[Fatass3000]

If you're not extremely short (under 5'7 unfrauded) or extremely ugly (no major deformities, not having the "subhuman" package or a weird /heavily stigmatized phenotype), not balding and not south asian you should at least be able to pull a LTB. If not then non-NT

 

[Biowaste Removal]

But, the problem arises when 50%+ of young men are incel.

That's the part where it's cope. The VAST MAJORITY of young men are fucking normie sex havers. We are just the very vERy bottom of the barrel.

 

[Fatass3000]

But, the problem arises when 50%+ of young men are incel.

no evidence to suggest that

 

[manletcel1488]

That's the part where it's cope. The VAST MAJORITY of young men are fucking normie sex havers. We are just the very vERy bottom of the barrel.

Not sure about this.
Data says otherwise and inceldom is still rising.
I assume it's even higher than what the data says too since men will lie to themselves so they can pretend they aren't incel.

 

[AsiaCel]

That's the part where it's cope. The VAST MAJORITY of young men are fucking normie sex havers. We are just the very vERy bottom of the barrel.

Data literally prove what I said.

no evidence to suggest that

In the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, men and women didn't differ much in prevalence of being single. This all changed in the 2010s. In 2012, 43% of men said they have no steady partner, compared to only 27% of women. Mysteriously, in 2014, it was 33% of men compared to 32% of women. In 2016, it was 43% of men and 27% of women, and in 2018, it was 42% and 31% of women. Being single skyrocketed for men but stayed the same for women when it comes to prevalence. In Pew Research survey in October 2019, 51% of men age 18 to 29 said they are single, compared to only 32% of women age 18 to 29. 27% of men age 30-49 were single compared to just 19% of women age 30-49. Interestingly, 49% of 65+ year old women are single compared to only 21% of men age 65+. This could be because men on average die earlier and men might marry a little later than women. 75% of singles age 65+ said they aren't looking for a date, and that 71% of single women over 40 aren't looking for a date. 67% of men age 18 to 39 are looking for a date and only 33% aren't, whereas 61% of women age 18-39 are looking for a date and 39% aren't. 63% of singles age 18-29 are looking for dates and 37% aren't, whereas 61% of singles age 30-49 are looking for dates whereas 39% aren't. About a third of never-married single adults (35%) say that they have never been in a committed romantic relationship. These singles are younger on average – single adults who have never been in a relationship have a median age of 24, compared with 35 among those who have been in a relationship. Still, 21% of never-married singles age 40 and older say they have never been in a relationship. Roughly four-in-ten (42%) of those younger than 40 say the same. Never-married single men and women are about equally likely to have never been in a relationship (35% and 37%, respectively). Those who have never been in a relationship are less likely to be looking for a relationship or dates than never-married singles who have some experience with committed relationships (53% vs. 67%).

 

[Biowaste Removal]

Not sure about this.
Data says otherwise and inceldom is still rising.
I assume it's even higher than what the data says too since men will lie to themselves so they can pretend they aren't incel.

What data states that over 50% of young men are incel? Maybe in Japan

 

[manletcel1488]

What data states that over 50% of young men are incel? Maybe in Japan

Not yet but probably within a few generations.

 

[CopingForBrutality]

This doesn't apply to me, but true. Inceldom is commonplace nowadays, it's just standards have gotten higher and higher even though average man didn't get uglier

I think there's two types of incels, timeless incels and regular incel. I'm a timeless incel, I'd be incel in any time period so I don't really care about putting foids in their place, has no benefits to me (as selfish as this sounds, I just want to be honest)

 

[Biowaste Removal]

In the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, men and women didn't differ much in prevalence of being single. This all changed in the 2010s. In 2012, 43% of men said they have no steady partner, compared to only 27% of women. Mysteriously, in 2014, it was 33% of men compared to 32% of women. In 2016, it was 43% of men and 27% of women, and in 2018, it was 42% and 31% of women. Being single skyrocketed for men but stayed the same for women when it comes to prevalence. In Pew Research survey in October 2019, 51% of men age 18 to 29 said they are single, compared to only 32% of women age 18 to 29. 27% of men age 30-49 were single compared to just 19% of women age 30-49. Interestingly, 49% of 65+ year old women are single compared to only 21% of men age 65+. This could be because men on average die earlier and men might marry a little later than women. 75% of singles age 65+ said they aren't looking for a date, and that 71% of single women over 40 aren't looking for a date. 67% of men age 18 to 39 are looking for a date and only 33% aren't, whereas 61% of women age 18-39 are looking for a date and 39% aren't. 63% of singles age 18-29 are looking for dates and 37% aren't, whereas 61% of singles age 30-49 are looking for dates whereas 39% aren't. About a third of never-married single adults (35%) say that they have never been in a committed romantic relationship. These singles are younger on average – single adults who have never been in a relationship have a median age of 24, compared with 35 among those who have been in a relationship. Still, 21% of never-married singles age 40 and older say they have never been in a relationship. Roughly four-in-ten (42%) of those younger than 40 say the same. Never-married single men and women are about equally likely to have never been in a relationship (35% and 37%, respectively). Those who have never been in a relationship are less likely to be looking for a relationship or dates than never-married singles who have some experience with committed relationships (53% vs. 67%).

Most "single" men aren't virgins or incels buddy. They get laid frequently, one-night stands, and they have on-and-off relationships. It's more of a younger men not wanting to marry phenomenon (which is very logical given the conditions of modern day marriage) and promiscuity making it hard for LTR. Have you ever even went to a college campus or high school campus? Almost everyone there has cliques and friend groups you don't think they don't get invited to parties where they can get laid?

 

[Fatass3000]

Data literally prove what I said.


In the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, men and women didn't differ much in prevalence of being single. This all changed in the 2010s. In 2012, 43% of men said they have no steady partner, compared to only 27% of women. Mysteriously, in 2014, it was 33% of men compared to 32% of women. In 2016, it was 43% of men and 27% of women, and in 2018, it was 42% and 31% of women. Being single skyrocketed for men but stayed the same for women when it comes to prevalence. In Pew Research survey in October 2019, 51% of men age 18 to 29 said they are single, compared to only 32% of women age 18 to 29. 27% of men age 30-49 were single compared to just 19% of women age 30-49. Interestingly, 49% of 65+ year old women are single compared to only 21% of men age 65+. This could be because men on average die earlier and men might marry a little later than women. 75% of singles age 65+ said they aren't looking for a date, and that 71% of single women over 40 aren't looking for a date. 67% of men age 18 to 39 are looking for a date and only 33% aren't, whereas 61% of women age 18-39 are looking for a date and 39% aren't. 63% of singles age 18-29 are looking for dates and 37% aren't, whereas 61% of singles age 30-49 are looking for dates whereas 39% aren't. About a third of never-married single adults (35%) say that they have never been in a committed romantic relationship. These singles are younger on average – single adults who have never been in a relationship have a median age of 24, compared with 35 among those who have been in a relationship. Still, 21% of never-married singles age 40 and older say they have never been in a relationship. Roughly four-in-ten (42%) of those younger than 40 say the same. Never-married single men and women are about equally likely to have never been in a relationship (35% and 37%, respectively). Those who have never been in a relationship are less likely to be looking for a relationship or dates than never-married singles who have some experience with committed relationships (53% vs. 67%).

not having sex all the time =/ to being incel. We all agree that once you lose your virginity you stop being incel right?

how many man are single doesn't mean shit, those man could have been in a relationship for 3 years and broke up 2 months before the survey. A more relevant survey would be asking how many man have NEVER been in a relationship. Also we have to consider that women often consider situationships relationships while man don't?
"Are you in a relationship with the chad that pumps and dumps you?"
slut: Yes!
"Are you in a relationship with the whore you pump and dump?"
chad: hell nah

Idk why you mention at the end that the percentage of man and women who have never been in a relationship is about the same, you're disproving that there isn't a incel problem and that some people just don't care about relationships. Some people don't care about that and just want to have fun. You also then say that these same people are less likely to look for relationships

 

[AsiaCel]

not having sex all the time =/ to being incel. We all agree that once you lose your virginity you stop being incel right?

how many man are single doesn't mean shit, those man could have been in a relationship for 3 years and broke up 2 months before the survey. A more relevant survey would be asking how many man have NEVER been in a relationship. Also we have to consider that women often consider situationships relationships while man don't?
"Are you in a relationship with the chad that pumps and dumps you?"
slut: Yes!
"Are you in a relationship with the whore you pump and dump?"
chad: hell nah

Idk why you mention at the end that the percentage of man and women who have never been in a relationship is about the same, you're disproving that there isn't a incel problem and that some people just don't care about relationships. Some people don't care about that and just want to have fun. You also then say that these same people are less likely to look for relationships

I just copy pasted a study from the scientific blackpill. But singleness,isn't exactly precise cus foids get their hookups and shit when men rot

 

[AsiaCel]

What data states that over 50% of young men are incel? Maybe in Japan

Not yet but probably within a few generations.

Not only in Japan

Inceldom in France shot to 56% and climbing.

https://dailystormer.in/france-study-finds-people-not-having-sex-anymore/ The number of 18 to 24-year-old virgins increased from 5 per cent in 2006 to 28 per cent. Observers suggested the study reflects the fact that women, in particular, are less inclined to feel obliged to have sex with...

incels.is

 

[Friezacel]

the average person isn't a virgin, the percentage of virgins is between 10-20%. There are average people here who are incel because they're autistic as shit

Male virginity has trippled in the last decade

 

[Friezacel]

The number one reason of inceldom on this site is being non NT, to be specific autism. After that height is a second close one. Tbh most users probably think they are facially uglier than they actually are

 

[Bianor]

Inceldom is a issue that will be present on the mass scale no matter how tall the average man is, how good looking he is

Yes because there will still be people below average.

Is the average man so "ugly"that 50% something young men are virgin or otherwise struggling?

Women can go for better than average, why wouldn’t they? It’s not about whether average is ugly or not, it’s about whether there is something better than average

 

[JudeoBiden]

TAKE AWAY WOMEN RIGHTS!

The only solution. A complete solution. There are no partial solutions.
This is the only one. That's why women had no fucking rights for all time until feminism gave them rights. It's not an accident or a coincidence, everyone understood that women and rights don't mix. Well, almost everyone. Thank your local Protestant for feminism, this was their idea.

 

[faded]

Before you chimpout at me for saying this, consider this - is the average man so ugly that he shouldn't even have a partner? Why are most incels, even on "hardcore" forums like this one, are average looking? Is the average man so "ugly"that 50% something young men are virgin or otherwise struggling?

Those who truly deviate from the norms of the average man, that is to say, 5'1 or 6'4, are very rare and basically statistically irrelevant.

All of this reinforces my point, not deny it.

There, i said it. Inceldom is a issue that will be present on the mass scale no matter how tall the average man is, how good looking he is. Why, Nordic countries, despite having the highest average height in the world and the fact that their features are seen as attractive, have along the highest living standards in the world, have to import so many SEA wives? Logically speaking, they should be having no issues.

The idea that increasing the average attractiveness of the men in a society, is bunch of garbage. Having attractive men works for racemixing with foids of other tribes, but in the next generations, it will bounce back towards the current norm, as women and men become more mixed and closer to the native SMV, and we are back at square one.

So what is the long term solution to the incel problem, that would work regardless of society and cultural norms? TAKE AWAY WOMEN RIGHTS!

Women rights is the elephant in the room. If you played the old Mario 64, there were locked doors in which you had to earn keys to open; which requires you to win at levels. But that is the key here, in real life, "levels" are steps towards taking women rights away, and nothing can bypass it. The stupid boomer politicians can continue being ostriches burying their head in the sand in face of danger, but this is ineffective against predators, and as such, the "ostriches" (politicians) will eventually give in to the predators (incels).

Chad only

 

[highschoolcel]

Before you chimpout at me for saying this, consider this - is the average man so ugly that he shouldn't even have a partner? Why are most incels, even on "hardcore" forums like this one, are average looking? Is the average man so "ugly"that 50% something young men are virgin or otherwise struggling?

Those who truly deviate from the norms of the average man, that is to say, 5'1 or 6'4, are very rare and basically statistically irrelevant.

All of this reinforces my point, not deny it.

There, i said it. Inceldom is a issue that will be present on the mass scale no matter how tall the average man is, how good looking he is. Why, Nordic countries, despite having the highest average height in the world and the fact that their features are seen as attractive, have along the highest living standards in the world, have to import so many SEA wives? Logically speaking, they should be having no issues.

The idea that increasing the average attractiveness of the men in a society, is bunch of garbage. Having attractive men works for racemixing with foids of other tribes, but in the next generations, it will bounce back towards the current norm, as women and men become more mixed and closer to the native SMV, and we are back at square one.

So what is the long term solution to the incel problem, that would work regardless of society and cultural norms? TAKE AWAY WOMEN RIGHTS!

Women rights is the elephant in the room. If you played the old Mario 64, there were locked doors in which you had to earn keys to open; which requires you to win at levels. But that is the key here, in real life, "levels" are steps towards taking women rights away, and nothing can bypass it. The stupid boomer politicians can continue being ostriches burying their head in the sand in face of danger, but this is ineffective against predators, and as such, the "ostriches" (politicians) will eventually give in to the predators (incels).

Provocative title, high IQ post.

Women will systematically go for the top 1% if they're allowed to, no matter how good or bad looking the general population is.

Abolish women's rights. Enforce monogamy.

But normies must suffer much, much more before they understand that.

 

[edger0uter]

Women are the problem. Water is wet.

 

[Biowaste Removal]

Not only in Japan

Inceldom in France shot to 56% and climbing.

https://dailystormer.in/france-study-finds-people-not-having-sex-anymore/ The number of 18 to 24-year-old virgins increased from 5 per cent in 2006 to 28 per cent. Observers suggested the study reflects the fact that women, in particular, are less inclined to feel obliged to have sex with...

incels.is

Read my other response.

 

[Lurkercel0]

If you're not extremely short (under 5'7 unfrauded) or extremely ugly (no major deformities, not having the "subhuman" package or a weird /heavily stigmatized phenotype), not balding and not south asian you should at least be able to pull a LTB. If not then non-NT

What if you’re half south asian? Is this going to exclude me from most ltbs in your opinion?

 

[Lurkercel0]

That's the part where it's cope. The VAST MAJORITY of young men are fucking normie sex havers.

Definitely not in the west + the vast majority of them are betabuxxing. This only applies to tall white, black, and hispanic normies.

 

[Gokubro]

Holy COPE. Explain why chads have zero trouble fucking any foid they want?

 

[gotet]

Well, I can't argue with this Bro. Our problem is that nobody is going to take their rights away. That's the sad part.

 

[Julaybib]

Women are the problem. Water is wet.

 

[Julaybib]

low iq post

 

[AsiaCel]

Holy COPE. Explain why chads have zero trouble fucking any foid they want?

"Why are rich not starving?"

Its never been problematic for the rich not to starve, and it's because they are rich they don't starve.

The real problem begins when the "rich" class gets increasingly small, and are hoarding up all the food.

Now think it about chads. Chads in the past, were regulated religiously and socially, to have only one wife, like the rest of us. But the system, is no longer there.

 

[AsiaCel]

low iq post

Elab

 

[Julaybib]

Elab

its all about looks

 

[AsiaCel]

its all about looks

Have you read my post?

 

[Puer aeternus]

Before you chimpout at me for saying this, consider this - is the average man so ugly that he shouldn't even have a partner? Why are most incels, even on "hardcore" forums like this one, are average looking? Is the average man so "ugly"that 50% something young men are virgin or otherwise struggling?

Those who truly deviate from the norms of the average man, that is to say, 5'1 or 6'4, are very rare and basically statistically irrelevant.

All of this reinforces my point, not deny it.

There, i said it. Inceldom is a issue that will be present on the mass scale no matter how tall the average man is, how good looking he is. Why, Nordic countries, despite having the highest average height in the world and the fact that their features are seen as attractive, have along the highest living standards in the world, have to import so many SEA wives? Logically speaking, they should be having no issues.

The idea that increasing the average attractiveness of the men in a society, is bunch of garbage. Having attractive men works for racemixing with foids of other tribes, but in the next generations, it will bounce back towards the current norm, as women and men become more mixed and closer to the native SMV, and we are back at square one.

So what is the long term solution to the incel problem, that would work regardless of society and cultural norms? TAKE AWAY WOMEN RIGHTS!

Women rights is the elephant in the room. If you played the old Mario 64, there were locked doors in which you had to earn keys to open; which requires you to win at levels. But that is the key here, in real life, "levels" are steps towards taking women rights away, and nothing can bypass it. The stupid boomer politicians can continue being ostriches burying their head in the sand in face of danger, but this is ineffective against predators, and as such, the "ostriches" (politicians) will eventually give in to the predators (incels).

The 5'1 and 6'4 example is dog shit, they dont even align on the height bell curve.

 

[Julaybib]

Have you read my post?

kind of

 

[tulasdanslos]

kind of

No longer human​

 

[AsiaCel]

The 5'1 and 6'4 example is dog shit, they dont even align on the height bell curve.

It doesn't take away my point at all. Those men are so rare, also that they will either always struggle, or always do well. The problem at hand, is the average man.

 

[Julaybib]

No longer human​

 

[Johnny-Red]

The number one reason of inceldom on this site is being non NT, to be specific autism. After that height is a second close one. Tbh most users probably think they are facially uglier than they actually are

the number one reason of inceldom is a combo of ugly face and height , everyone finds women in a manner directly proportional to their look, the closer you look to the look of a chad the more successful you are with women

 

[PsychoCel1]

"Inceldom has nothing to do with looks"
I stopped reading after that I just couldn't go no further