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What do you think about UBI?

AustrianPainter

AustrianPainter

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If we can't ever ascend then is there any reason to work and contribute to this society?
 
I assume you mean universal basic income, which can be achieved (with facial surgery money/incel surgery money on top) by pulling foreign aid, decreasing the military, the nationalizing/taxing the corporate multi trillion dollar conglomerates.

It’s insane sometimes how close we are to literal utopias and yet we cannot reach it because of the veil of the internationale juden and progressivism.
 
It’s insane sometimes how close we are to literal utopias and yet we cannot reach it because of the veil of the Internationale juden and progressivism.
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Oy vey, he knows!
 
I assume you mean universal basic income, which can be achieved (with facial surgery money/incel surgery money on top) by pulling foreign aid, decreasing the military, the nationalizing/taxing the corporate multi trillion dollar conglomerates.

It’s insane sometimes how close we are to literal utopias and yet we cannot reach it because of the veil of the internationale juden and progressivism.
Wollt ihr den totalen krieg??
 
I assume you mean universal basic income, which can be achieved (with facial surgery money/incel surgery money on top) by pulling foreign aid, decreasing the military, the nationalizing/taxing the corporate multi trillion dollar conglomerates.

It’s insane sometimes how close we are to literal utopias and yet we cannot reach it because of the veil of the internationale juden and progressivism.
Not going to happen dude, if it's not international jewry, it's going to be international anglo. If it's not international anglo, it's going to be international chinese.
Power abhors a multi trillion dollar vacuum. The fact those kinds of power structures exist in the first place imply they are inevitable and here to stay.
Even if you created a national socialist ethnostate you'll just end up receiving the North Korea treatment, getting bullied by globohomo states that aren't handicapping themselves for ideological reasons.
 
any conscious worker should ditch a job that pays too low, forcing the employer to pay more or go bust, and employers should focus more on societal order and neatness aka conservative social order thus wanting to pay a fair amount to workers rather than paying less for the sake of materialistic gain and power, which are the two motives of jews; marxism is a jewish projection
Bonus points if you incite a movement to leave with the other employees
 
UBI would just be a bandaid, like social welfare in european countries, effectively they change nothing, even with UBI more and more money will be concentrated in fewer and fewer hands,

just like during the pandemic the billionaires increased their wealth considerably while the rest suffers.

only real solution would be to give workers the control over their workplace, let them make the important decisions democratically.
people will always choose the best outcome for themselves, so everyone who has power needs to be restricted immensly,
Or else the power will be used for personal gain at the expense of everyone else, the environment, the planet.

power needs to be collectively owned, housing, food and water needs to be free, no one should be allowed to profit of necessities of life
 
UBI would just be a bandaid, like social welfare in european countries, effectively they change nothing, even with UBI more and more money will be concentrated in fewer and fewer hands,

just like during the pandemic the billionaires increased their wealth considerably while the rest suffers.

only real solution would be to give workers the control over their workplace, let them make the important decisions democratically.
people will always choose the best outcome for themselves, so everyone who has power needs to be restricted immensly,
Or else the power will be used for personal gain at the expense of everyone else, the environment, the planet.

power needs to be collectively owned, housing, food and water needs to be free, no one should be allowed to profit of necessities of life
 

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"By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.


Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character."

 
UBI would just be a bandaid, like social welfare in european countries, effectively they change nothing, even with UBI more and more money will be concentrated in fewer and fewer hands,

just like during the pandemic the billionaires increased their wealth considerably while the rest suffers.

only real solution would be to give workers the control over their workplace, let them make the important decisions democratically.
people will always choose the best outcome for themselves, so everyone who has power needs to be restricted immensly,
Or else the power will be used for personal gain at the expense of everyone else, the environment, the planet.

power needs to be collectively owned, housing, food and water needs to be free, no one should be allowed to profit of necessities of life
Normal people having facilities to acquire means of production (general) is not exclusive with UBI. Both can go together
 
Normal people having facilities to acquire means of production (general) is not exclusive with UBI. Both can go along
true but in the media UBI is sometimes discussed as a standalone solution but never ever is it discussed that workers should own and control their workplace.

i agree though, my suggestion would be, housing, food, water and heat is free with some UBI variant, for luxuries you have to work like 3 hour days, 4 days a week
 
that's good, i don't want to wageslave and contribute to soyciety if i can't get any pussy, pay me so i can ldar
 
Would be nice if they would give it to me
 
It's based

Zimbabwe buxx
Inflation is a meme at this point. The hook noses have been printing countless dollars for about a decade and nothing happened
 
Only reason i'd support biden is for LDARing and getting money while doing it
 
It's based


Inflation is a meme at this point. The hook noses have been printing countless dollars for about a decade and nothing happened
Ill give you a 100 million dollars to use proper punctuation!
 
Blackpill school....

Now drop and give me 480000!

480000, 479999, 479998, 479997, 479996, 479995, 479994, 479993, 479992, 479991, 479990, 4799-- please, Emba, I can't do anymore!!
 
480000, 479999, 479998, 479997, 479996, 479995, 479994, 479993, 479992, 479991, 479990, 4799-- please, Emba, I can't do anymore!!
THAT'S ENOUGH.

Get up an goER#
 
I assume you mean universal basic income, which can be achieved (with facial surgery money/incel surgery money on top) by pulling foreign aid, decreasing the military, the nationalizing/taxing the corporate multi trillion dollar conglomerates.

It’s insane sometimes how close we are to literal utopias and yet we cannot reach it because of the veil of the internationale juden and progressivism.
It sounds too good to be true, but if it could work sweet — these days we already have tons of government aid but only for women and black people.
 
It sounds too good to be true, but if it could work sweet — these days we already have tons of government aid but only for women and black people.
Yep. Like most things, minorities and women are taking all the possible help to the white man (when it should be given equally according to liberal ideas...on paper.) and that INCLUDES the jews taking the money to Israel. Completely ridiculous! If we got rid of these effects (which are very easy to reverse btw) we would be amazing. One of the best nations on the earth.
 
If we can't ever ascend then is there any reason to work and contribute to this society?
Finding a job generally and even in STEM Fields is exponentially harder for men deemed ugly. I knew a female who always asked me for help in university and got much poorer grades finding a job I was much more qualified at (They even admitted this) just because she was more of a "social fit", the truth is in almost all fields, employers are looking for people who look good, can navigate social situations well (not introverted) and they fit this in "working well in a group" or "being part of the family", hence wage slaving is much harder for an incel to achieve. UBI would at-least allow us incels to stay out of society in peace.
 
"By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.


Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character."

fascism was inspired by socialism, and seeing where it fails.
China claims to be socialist, but with it's socialist policies combined with its semi-market economy it is very similar to fascism.
 
fascism was inspired by socialism, and seeing where it fails.
China claims to be socialist, but with it's socialist policies combined with its semi-market economy it is very similar to fascism.
what about the social democracies in europe?
f.e. germany, sweden, austria, norway, etc..

are they similar to fascism?

i agree china and russia are authoriarian fascist governments, but they dont have the core idea of socialism and communism which is:

workers controlling the means of production, meaning workers having a say in what the company they work for does.

which is the most important feature we would need to implement in todays world to make it fairer.

but no one does that because the 3 out of 3000 people of a corporation would make much less money and would have alot less power.

and those wealthy individuals will never give up their power willingly, they only try to get more of it, which is what we are seeing in china, russia, US, europe, basically everywhere a small elite of wealthy individuals controll the most important parts of society.

which is the core idea of capitalism, the possibility for unlimited consolidation of power and wealth whitout restrictions.
 
Will be a necessity in a world where everything is automated and the average person is this:

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If we can't ever ascend then is there any reason to work and contribute to this society?
No. There is no reason. There is however a reason to steal and plunder from society all you can get your hands on.
 
what about the social democracies in europe?
f.e. germany, sweden, austria, norway, etc..

are they similar to fascism?

i agree china and russia are authoriarian fascist governments, but they dont have the core idea of socialism and communism which is:

workers controlling the means of production, meaning workers having a say in what the company they work for does.

which is the most important feature we would need to implement in todays world to make it fairer.

but no one does that because the 3 out of 3000 people of a corporation would make much less money and would have alot less power.

and those wealthy individuals will never give up their power willingly, they only try to get more of it, which is what we are seeing in china, russia, US, europe, basically everywhere a small elite of wealthy individuals controll the most important parts of society.

which is the core idea of capitalism, the possibility for unlimited consolidation of power and wealth whitout restrictions.
Those European countries are not socialist. Places like Norway and Denmark are called a social democracy.
Here are the contries with the freest market (most capitalistic) in the world. The US isn't that much ahead of Norway or Sweden in terms of points. Notice how it's less capitalistic than places like Canada or Denmark, but they have tax paid healthcare.
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workers don't own means of production because the means of production were an investment made by someone who took the risk in making a business that can either succeed or fail, and investing their own money into it.
 
Ubi
Urinary tract infections
Are no fun at all!

They should be banned!
 

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