Why are you talking about shit testing? If an average or ugly guy says no to a girl even if she complains she won't see that as sexy she'll just move on to another random guy. Seriously try being a jerk to a girl as an average or ugly guy see how far that goes without her screaming at you before moving on to a chad.
I didn't say women are more likely to fuck you if you're a "jerk". First of all, I'm no PUA. It does lower the chances of women being disgusted by you, though, which I guess objectively must increase your chances of getting fucked. But, not the point. It really depends on the situation. For example, if a woman is trying to find a betabuxx to financially manipulate, she'll look for a guy who will capitulate to her demands. Or, if she's looking for an emotional tampon while she fucks Chad. Alternatively, if she wants resources out of you in really any way. In any of these situations, you may be correct.
I understand that ugly guys, like really ugly, truecel tier guys, can't get away with this-however, a guy who is 4/10, maybe even a 3, can get away with this. Don't give me that "if a guy does this" shit. It is degenerate to even give attention to a woman in this society/system, PUAing is evil and contributes to women's delusions and makes them even MORE evil than they already are.
I'm not of the camp that thinks that if a 5/10 acts stoic in the face of shit tests, women will automatically want to fuck him. In fact, women profit sexually off of making their sexual decisions as complex and esoteric as possible-for this reason, only letting men who are less likely to use them well and interact positively with other men inside her is advantageous. Essentially, the societal shit-test is more important to women than the individual one. If a man acts stoic in the face of shit-tests but also acts like a loyal, dependable husband and is rational and moral and sub8, she will just see him as a high-tier betabuxx. If a man gives in to her pussy demands but also thugmaxxes, is gymmaxxed, lowinhibmaxxed (AKA overconfident to a buffoonish degree), is tattoo/drugmaxxed, and hangs around thugs, and he makes her feel like he's swift and about to pump and dump her, she will often not be resistant to fucking him even if he is a 4 in the face.
Remember, women want to destroy society and lie about it. They don't want it to be too obvious to where you couldn't not see it even if you wanted to, nor not obvious enough so where even "strong" men couldn't see it. Thus, they unconvincingly lie, so that if a man wants to believe her, he can, and if he wants the truth, he can find it.
If that was true then there wouldn't be hookers, or foids who fuck non chads in SEasia.
No, when I say "fuck a sub8" I mean for reasons other than provision, protection and to protect their social status and ability to get attention and validation. Obviously betabuxxes, sugar daddies, prostitutes, etc. exist, because all women desire material possessions (safety and security), just some more than others. Also, of course in a society that threatened women with punishment for not breeding with sub8s, obviously they would. In Asia, it's more like those are the only men available. I believe there it's a combination of social pressure as well as low standards, ie women base their ratings based off of the men they have available to them. And even now, we see increasing numbers of Asian women only willing to date white men since they have "tasted" white cock.
Even under tradcon monogamy, ultimately the reason that women fuck sub8s is out of social pressure and fear of punishment. BTW, even in tradcon Britain 150 years ago, let's say, there were lots of loser permabachelors who joined the military and shit bc women were too busy weaving yarn, taking care of their cats, going to women's clubs, living with dad and being prostitutes.
I don't see bluepilled cucktears talk about young virgins.
Cucktears and most neoleftists are so retarded they think that a whore can deliver to them all the things they want. There are different levels of delusion-some think they would be happy with a "bad girl", others think that "bad girls" are a patriarchal concept and that prostitutes and strippers would actually be really nice and pleasant in person. Still others think that you should avoid women who are "assholes" and "hang around dangerous places" and go for women who are 'just like you, just be yourself". The last group is basically normies, who think that not all women are the same and that women like men who are like them. But what the last two groups have in common is that if you find the "right woman" that she will unconditionally love you. Unconditional love in the main characteristic that has been bred out, females are incapable of it towards any man who does not seem to be the type to pump and dump while men are still very much capable of unconditional love. Thus, IncelTears believes that unconditional love is achievable for humans in a sustainable society, and it is not.
The first group believes unconditional love is unnecessary, which is BS. Men were built for unconditional love, we need this yet cannot have it. We must furiously rise up and re-create a species of women with unconditional, non-hypergamous love for random men in their genetic code, be they biological anime synthetic waifus made from real flesh-in-blood or whatever. The first group is also, I believe, masochistic on some level. This group finally also tends to support degeneracy in their support for "bad girls", ruining other mens' chances and decaying our society further with destructive behavior that destroys our ability to produce and sustain a civilization that cares for what we men really want, which is women who unconditionally love us.
Those "good girl" genes must not be entirely bred out if most men prefer them, but feminists made laws that make it difficult for non chads to fuck young virgins.
Feminists are a symptom, not a cause. BTW, a true "good girl" would not fuck Chad only. All women can be good for Chad, at least briefly, but only a "good girl" can truly love unconditionally a man who isn't Chad. If a woman is incapable of this, then she was NEVER a "good girl" to begin with, but rather a TradThot. Further proving my point-any woman who only accepts Chad is NOT a "good girl". Period. By making this comment, you further cement the idea that even TradThots are thots.
Also, yes they are bred out of the gene pool. See this thread:
https://incels.is/threads/love-is-a...cking-and-to-stop-society-from-falling.66687/ "Love" keeps society together, but It is a false idea in the minds of men.
That's why we need to slut shame those whores.
Hard disagree. Slut-shaming only slows prostitution, it doesn't stop it completely. What we need is a society where women are selected by men at age 15 to be their partners, and the state evaluates the value of men based on their usefulness to society to prioritize his pick, on and on down the line. Each man has the right to punish his wife however and have sex with her whenever he wants, on the caveat that if either partner has sex outside of commitment, the man gets the death penalty. This is ultimately fair, as it encourages men to basically lock their wives up in the home. Harsh punishments if women are caught in public with some kind of control placed on them as well.
You have to be a cuck to marry chad's used leftovers.
Not what I said. I'm talking about those "sweet virgin tradgirls" you talk about. Marry a "virgin tradwife" and this is how she will act. Period. My point being that tradwives are no better than whores.
Men need to stop doing favors for hypergamous whores, and being their orbiting slaves.
Agreed. Men should ignore women. If we can get Chads to join us, even better. Betrev (Beta revolution) is better for EVERYONE.