[Cope] You can't be hedonist and incel

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Being hedonist as an incel makes no sense. You cant believe that pleasure is ultimately the most important thing in life when you are deprived of the most pleasurable natural experience which is sex. You can watch porn and do drugs but at the end of the day those are just copes. At this point im wondering if I should monkmaxx and abandon all worldy things.
 
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everything is ultimately for pleasure

even monkmaxxing
 
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Yeah because there's pleasure in watching porn or doing drugs.
 
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Yes you can, it’s just harder to be one.
 
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"Getting Smart about Pleasure

Epicurus took pleasure seriously, but his insight is that pleasure is something we’re simply not very good at. We’re bad at thinking about it, and we’re bad at actually living pleasurable lives. Epicurus wants to change that.

He begins by making an important distinction. There are two kinds of pleasure, he says. The first kind is kinetic pleasure, and the second kind is static (sometimes called katastematic, but let’s keep things simple!).

Kinetic pleasures destabilize or unsettle us. They unbalance us and throw us off course. An example might be the downward spiral of a film star on a drink and drugs binge. It’s not that there isn’t pleasure in binging. It is only that this is pleasure is destabilizing and leads to a great deal of pain.

Static pleasures, on the other hand, do not lead to further pain. They are simply pleasurable, without after-effects. Epicurus once wrote to a disciple, asking for him to “send me a small pot of cheese, so that I may be able to indulge myself whenever I wish.” This is not very rock ‘n’ roll, but it’s a good example of a static pleasure. Good food, shared with friends, out in the garden … this is a static, uncomplicated pleasure."

 
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I am a hedonist because I'm so incredibly lazy. I avoid any sort of discomfort, waste of energy, effort. Even mental effort, much less physical. So this is hedonism in a certain way too.
 
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You can be low tier hedonist. But the thing is if you lack resources its boring as fuck.
 
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It's over for hedonistcels.
 
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"Getting Smart about Pleasure

Epicurus took pleasure seriously, but his insight is that pleasure is something we’re simply not very good at. We’re bad at thinking about it, and we’re bad at actually living pleasurable lives. Epicurus wants to change that.

He begins by making an important distinction. There are two kinds of pleasure, he says. The first kind is kinetic pleasure, and the second kind is static (sometimes called katastematic, but let’s keep things simple!).

Kinetic pleasures destabilize or unsettle us. They unbalance us and throw us off course. An example might be the downward spiral of a film star on a drink and drugs binge. It’s not that there isn’t pleasure in binging. It is only that this is pleasure is destabilizing and leads to a great deal of pain.

Static pleasures, on the other hand, do not lead to further pain. They are simply pleasurable, without after-effects. Epicurus once wrote to a disciple, asking for him to “send me a small pot of cheese, so that I may be able to indulge myself whenever I wish.” This is not very rock ‘n’ roll, but it’s a good example of a static pleasure. Good food, shared with friends, out in the garden … this is a static, uncomplicated pleasure."

Drugs and porn are kinetic pleasures. Normal people have static pleasures like having a good time with friends or having sex with a girl that actually cares about you.
 
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the most pleasurable natural experience which is sex. You can watch porn and do drugs but at the end of the day those are just copes.
I don't know what you mean by natural and then say drugs are cope, cause drugs can induce pleasurable feelings that are thousands of times stronger than an orgasm and lasts for hours.
 
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> you can't do x if y

STFU GrAYcel, I can and will.
 
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Yes you can, it’s just harder to be one.
Besides, isn’t that like the core of the black pill? That everything revolves around sex, which is one of the most pleasurable experiences on earth?
 
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I can’t get through life without weed and alcohol and nicotine
 

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