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Serious Don't Discount the Left, Leftism is not a Unified Political Force but a Set of Ideas, Many of which are Good

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I've seen many incels flock to the far-right on every issue as an escape-patch from what they view as leftist feminism. Many incels correctly view feminism as a left-wing ideology and, understandably, take refuge in the right. As logical as this may seem to one caught up in the fiasco, from an outsider perspective it is quite silly. The left and the right are not teams, it's not an either or paradigm, you can pick and choose what you like from each. This is what all great societies did.

Many ideas on the left would benefit incels. Universal Basic Income would allow us to escape the lookist workforce and NEET at home all day if we would so choose. Higher taxes on the wealthy would balance our budget, reduce our inflation tax, and give our dollars more purchasing power. A more sympathetic criminal justice system would allow incels who committed crimes out of frustration to be rehabilitated and forgiven rather than treated like a social pariah for life. Leftist administrators could help reduce bullying and exclusion in schools, something which plagued many of our childhoods. Government funded infrastructure such as the internet and affordable housing would make sure even the ugliest and truestcels have a home and bed to sleep in. It sucks not having women, but imagine not even having three meals a day.

TLDR - Don't discount all leftist policies to spite feminists
 
Indeed. Your perspective is quite balanced and valid. Thank you for sharing.
 
The left and the right are not teams, it's not an either or paradigm, you can pick and choose what you like from each.
Left wing fanaticism or right wing extremism. That seems to be what it's all about to me.
 
Many ideas on the left would benefit incels. Universal Basic Income would allow us to escape the lookist workforce and NEET at home all day if we would so choose. Higher taxes on the wealthy
Those positions aren't inherently leftist though.

Neocons don't represent the whole spectrum
 
Graycel post but I somewhat agree
 
autism post because none of the things that leftism promises are sustainable anyway, even if they were on offer
 
Universal Basic Income would allow us to escape the lookist workforce and NEET at home all day if we would so choose. Higher taxes on the wealthy would balance our budget, reduce our inflation tax, and give our dollars more purchasing power. A more sympathetic criminal justice system would allow incels who committed crimes out of frustration to be rehabilitated and forgiven rather than treated like a social pariah for life. Leftist administrators could help reduce bullying and exclusion in schools, something which plagued many of our childhoods. Government funded infrastructure such as the internet and affordable housing would make sure even the ugliest and truestcels have a home and bed to sleep in. It sucks not having women, but imagine not even having three meals a day.

UBI is the reason inceldom among males will become mainstream. Government welfare and gibs make men redundant providers. Thus foids gravitating towards Chads with superior genetics.

High taxes reduce inflation, helps budget etc like you mentioned but good luck trying to execute on collect on the wealthy who will simply offshore themselves. Tax burden will simply shift to the middle class.

Sympathetic criminal justice system? Wtf are you high? Men disproportionately serve longer prison sentences than females for the same crimes. Punishment is heavily skewed towards men.

There is no evidence of lessening bullying or affordable housing occurring and even if there were I don't see this as anything other than leftists trying to line their own pockets with government money created from a money printer.

You are delusional. Everything you said is stupid and dead wrong.
 
They are economically leftist by definition.
Agreed, and they are good ideas. That, or have everything equal, i.e. the "no one is entitled to anything" cliché. We will see how many people have shitty lives once we take away their welfare and affirmative action.
 
They are economically leftist by definition.
Progressive taxation isn't leftist by definition, not on the current overton window.

UBI? Maybe, but UBI will be necessary in the future anyways, since more and more jobs are losing their utility
 
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I completely agree with the left with the economic stuff like higher salaries, higher taxes for rich people, all this kind of stuff is based.
But the whole "woke", feminist, pro-lgbt stuff is complete bs.
 
I've seen many incels flock to the far-right on every issue as an escape-patch from what they view as leftist feminism. Many incels correctly view feminism as a left-wing ideology and, understandably, take refuge in the right. As logical as this may seem to one caught up in the fiasco, from an outsider perspective it is quite silly. The left and the right are not teams, it's not an either or paradigm, you can pick and choose what you like from each. This is what all great societies did.

Many ideas on the left would benefit incels. Universal Basic Income would allow us to escape the lookist workforce and NEET at home all day if we would so choose. Higher taxes on the wealthy would balance our budget, reduce our inflation tax, and give our dollars more purchasing power. A more sympathetic criminal justice system would allow incels who committed crimes out of frustration to be rehabilitated and forgiven rather than treated like a social pariah for life. Leftist administrators could help reduce bullying and exclusion in schools, something which plagued many of our childhoods. Government funded infrastructure such as the internet and affordable housing would make sure even the ugliest and truestcels have a home and bed to sleep in. It sucks not having women, but imagine not even having three meals a day.

TLDR - Don't discount all leftist policies to spite feminists
If you think any of the political ideals of leftism will ever be used to benefit you as a man you're are completely delusional. The leftwing policy making institutions are entirely comprised of jews and women and will never enact any policy that could benefit men or especially ugly Incel men. Any increase in the welfare state or leniency in criminal justice will be at the behest of women and will benefit women.
 
I am a socialist so I do agree with some leftist economic polices like free heath care, UBI, ect. but the main issue I have with them is their social policies, many of which irrevocably damage society i.e feminism, destruction of the family unit, "diversity"(no white people), and homosexuality .

other than that the only other things the modern leftist and I agree on are all cops are bastards, not because they kill nigs but because they uphold the power structure of the elite class that oppresses us and the parasitic rich need to be exterminated.:feelsjuice::yes:
If you think any of the political ideals of leftism will ever be used to benefit you as a man you're are completely delusional. The leftwing policy making institutions are entirely comprised of jews and women and will never enact any policy that could benefit men or especially ugly Incel men. Any increase in the welfare state or leniency in criminal justice will be at the behest of women and will benefit women.
this too
 
autism post because none of the things that leftism promises are sustainable anyway, even if they were on offer
Can you explain your reasoning? How are they in any way unsustainable? Where does the loop close in the system I offered of government expenditure financed through taxation?

UBI is the reason inceldom among males will become mainstream. Government welfare and gibs make men redundant providers. Thus foids gravitating towards Chads with superior genetics.

High taxes reduce inflation, helps budget etc like you mentioned but good luck trying to execute on collect on the wealthy who will simply offshore themselves. Tax burden will simply shift to the middle class.

Sympathetic criminal justice system? Wtf are you high? Men disproportionately serve longer prison sentences than females for the same crimes. Punishment is heavily skewed towards men.

There is no evidence of lessening bullying or affordable housing occurring and even if there were I don't see this as anything other than leftists trying to line their own pockets with government money created from a money printer.

You are delusional. Everything you said is stupid and dead wrong.
>UBI is the reason inceldom among males will become mainstream. Government welfare and gibs make men redundant providers. Thus foids gravitating towards Chads with superior genetics.

Women don't need men as providers anyway. We are long beyond the days where women depend on the labor of men. Now if banning women from the workforce was still on the table, I would absolutely agree! But we are not in that world. In the world we live in, UBI won't result in any more incels than there otherwise would be

>High taxes reduce inflation, helps budget etc like you mentioned but good luck trying to execute on collect on the wealthy who will simply offshore themselves. Tax burden will simply shift to the middle class.

This isn't actually true. I'm a financial consultant. We analyze hedge funds and private equity markets for very wealthy clients (many institutional but many home office) who are trying to pay as little tax as possible. They do this by investing in Feeder Funds registered in the Cayman Islands who then invest the money in a Master Fund, which is tax exempt. The money within the funds are not taxed while the portfolio is being shifted around (aka stock trading) but the money they put into that fund was initially taxed... and it is taxed again when the money is pulled from the fund.

TLDR - The rich do pay taxes, they just minimize them while they move it around, but they pay taxes on all money earned and all money spent

>Sympathetic criminal justice system? Wtf are you high? Men disproportionately serve longer prison sentences than females for the same crimes. Punishment is heavily skewed towards men.

Yes, no shit. And that's why I'm advocating for a more sympathetic justice system. I don't like the current right-wing approach we take to crime and punishment.

>There is no evidence of lessening bullying or affordable housing occurring and even if there were I don't see this as anything other than leftists trying to line their own pockets with government money created from a money printer.

This is just stupidity. Any policy proposal that could benefit you will be discounted as "just another scam". Bullying has undeniably been reduced since the 1980s when kids were regularly HOSPITALIZED without retribution.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzKTdmcrDEA
 
If you think any of the political ideals of leftism will ever be used to benefit you as a man you're are completely delusional. The leftwing policy making institutions are entirely comprised of jews and women and will never enact any policy that could benefit men or especially ugly Incel men. Any increase in the welfare state or leniency in criminal justice will be at the behest of women and will benefit women.

The world is not that simple. Our society is at least somewhat fair in the sense that certain groups can not be explicitly excluded, it must be done via proxy or covert methods.

Welfare was designed for women, but many incels and disabledcels end up on it. The world is not as black and white as you think.
 
Can you explain your reasoning? How are they in any way unsustainable? Where does the loop close in the system I offered of government expenditure financed through taxation?


>UBI is the reason inceldom among males will become mainstream. Government welfare and gibs make men redundant providers. Thus foids gravitating towards Chads with superior genetics.

Women don't need men as providers anyway. We are long beyond the days where women depend on the labor of men. Now if banning women from the workforce was still on the table, I would absolutely agree! But we are not in that world. In the world we live in, UBI won't result in any more incels than there otherwise would be

>High taxes reduce inflation, helps budget etc like you mentioned but good luck trying to execute on collect on the wealthy who will simply offshore themselves. Tax burden will simply shift to the middle class.

This isn't actually true. I'm a financial consultant. We analyze hedge funds and private equity markets for very wealthy clients (many institutional but many home office) who are trying to pay as little tax as possible. They do this by investing in Feeder Funds registered in the Cayman Islands who then invest the money in a Master Fund, which is tax exempt. The money within the funds are not taxed while the portfolio is being shifted around (aka stock trading) but the money they put into that fund was initially taxed... and it is taxed again when the money is pulled from the fund.

TLDR - The rich do pay taxes, they just minimize them while they move it around, but they pay taxes on all money earned and all money spent

>Sympathetic criminal justice system? Wtf are you high? Men disproportionately serve longer prison sentences than females for the same crimes. Punishment is heavily skewed towards men.

Yes, no shit. And that's why I'm advocating for a more sympathetic justice system. I don't like the current right-wing approach we take to crime and punishment.

>There is no evidence of lessening bullying or affordable housing occurring and even if there were I don't see this as anything other than leftists trying to line their own pockets with government money created from a money printer.

This is just stupidity. Any policy proposal that could benefit you will be discounted as "just another scam". Bullying has undeniably been reduced since the 1980s when kids were regularly HOSPITALIZED without retribution.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzKTdmcrDEA


Women don't need men as providers because of government gibs. And you want to give women MORE gibs[UWSL] to make men more redundant as providers? [/UWSL]

[UWSL]The rich pay little to no taxes, that how they become and stay rich. Elon Musk borrows against his assets and doesn't pay capital gains tax, only his heirs pay a small amount on a stepped up basis (buy borrow die). There's 100's of ways to avoid taxes by moving money overseas and they push comes to shove they simply won't repatriate their money back. The stuff you talk about is merely postponing taxes for a later date. The rich are moving their tax residencies, changing their corporate structures in ways where they are paying little to no taxes compared to what you pay in progressive income tax. Left wing style wealth taxes for the rich will simply make them leave your tax jurisdiction, this is what happened in France and other countries that tried taxing the rich their 'fair share'. Whenever I ask leftoids HOW they will tax the rich they never have an answer, just slogans like eat the rich and pay your fair share.[/UWSL][UWSL][/UWSL]

Advocating sympathetic justice for men is basically mens right activism lol. That shit doesn't work. This is why leftism is so cringe, you all think you can influence the government to get your way instead of fixing problems by yourself. Same with bullying, leftoids like you want the system to be nicer to you instead of solving the issue yourself. This just exemplifies how you don't even believe you can solve any issue on your own you need the government to provide everything for you. Pathetic.

[UWSL] [/UWSL]
 
Women don't need men as providers because of government gibs. And you want to give women MORE gibs[UWSL] to make men more redundant as providers? [/UWSL]

[UWSL]The rich pay little to no taxes, that how they become and stay rich. Elon Musk borrows against his assets and doesn't pay capital gains tax, only his heirs pay a small amount on a stepped up basis (buy borrow die). There's 100's of ways to avoid taxes by moving money overseas and they push comes to shove they simply won't repatriate their money back. The stuff you talk about is merely postponing taxes for a later date. The rich are moving their tax residencies, changing their corporate structures in ways where they are paying little to no taxes compared to what you pay in progressive income tax. Left wing style wealth taxes for the rich will simply make them leave your tax jurisdiction, this is what happened in France and other countries that tried taxing the rich their 'fair share'. Whenever I ask leftoids HOW they will tax the rich they never have an answer, just slogans like eat the rich and pay your fair share.[/UWSL]

Advocating sympathetic justice for men is basically mens right activism lol. That shit doesn't work. This is why leftism is so cringe, you all think you can influence the government to get your way instead of fixing problems by yourself. Same with bullying, leftoids like you want the system to be nicer to you instead of solving the issue yourself. This just exemplifies how you don't even believe you can solve any issue on your own you need the government to provide everything for you. Pathetic.
Dude, my job is literally to help rich people pay as little taxes as possible. I'm a financial consultant for high net worth individuals. This idea that they pay less taxes is a total hoax. What they do is they pay less taxes while trading securities or defer taxes through unrealized gains.... but before they spend it or when they die the tax man comes to collect. The rich currently pay a higher marginal tax on their assets than anyone else. Even the Cayman Island exempted corporations are taxed when the redemptions come due, there is no way to dodge the tax man even for the richest of the rich.
 
Leftis are stupid (and cringe) and far-rights are assholes.
 
Only Nazis, ISIS and Taliban are based, everything else is foid worship. And they are definitely right-wing.
 
Dude, my job is literally to help rich people pay as little taxes as possible. I'm a financial consultant for high net worth individuals. This idea that they pay less taxes is a total hoax. What they do is they pay less taxes while trading securities or defer taxes through unrealized gains.... but before they spend it or when they die the tax man comes to collect. The rich currently pay a higher marginal tax on their assets than anyone else. Even the Cayman Island exempted corporations are taxed when the redemptions come due, there is no way to dodge the tax man even for the richest of the rich.
You are a dime-a-dozen now. There are heaps advertising the same thing on YouTube for a fraction of the cost you probably charge.

I'm aware people that live in western countries are simply deferring or post-poning tax. What I am telling you is that the rich also move their tax jurisdiction overseas and pay 0 or close to it. Caymen Islands has been cucked for a while by the US and even reports to OECD tax authorities. There are obviously other countries that don't. Also I mentioned buy borrow die and you just dismissed it like it wasn't a thing -

When assets are passed on, they are received on a stepped up basis. This means that if the heir chooses to sell the asset, the capital gains tax is only on the difference in value between when they received it and when the sale occurred. :feelsohh:

You are a living contradiction. You help the rich avoid tax but in reality you are a seething leftists that wants government to tax the rich more.
 
You are a dime-a-dozen now. There are heaps advertising the same thing on YouTube for a fraction of the cost you probably charge.

I'm aware people that live in western countries are simply deferring or post-poning tax. What I am telling you is that the rich also move their tax jurisdiction overseas and pay 0 or close to it. Caymen Islands has been cucked for a while by the US and even reports to OECD tax authorities. There are obviously other countries that don't. Also I mentioned buy borrow die and you just dismissed it like it wasn't a thing -

When assets are passed on, they are received on a stepped up basis. This means that if the heir chooses to sell the asset, the capital gains tax is only on the difference in value between when they received it and when the sale occurred. :feelsohh:

You are a living contradiction. You help the rich avoid tax but in reality you are a seething leftists that wants government to tax the rich more.

> Also I mentioned buy borrow die and you just dismissed it like it wasn't a thing -

I literally explained why it's not a loophole, and why it doesn't actually work

>When assets are passed on, they are received on a stepped up basis. This means that if the heir chooses to sell the asset, the capital gains tax is only on the difference in value between when they received it and when the sale occurred. :feelsohh:

All assets are forcefully taxed on capital gains the moment the person dies or passes them on, there is no getting around this.

>You are a living contradiction. You help the rich avoid tax but in reality you are a seething leftists that wants government to tax the rich more.

That's not contradictory at all. I live in a capitalist society and therefore must contribute. I didn't choose this job, my need for food and rent payments and ability to buy clothing compelled me to work.
 
>I didn't choose this job

Because you tripped and fell into it am I right?
 
>I didn't choose this job

Because you tripped and fell into it am I right?
No, I was on the verge of homelessness and I finally got a job offer after sending out hundreds of applications. It was either this or starve.
 
I've seen many incels flock to the far-right on every issue as an escape-patch from what they view as leftist feminism. Many incels correctly view feminism as a left-wing ideology and, understandably, take refuge in the right. As logical as this may seem to one caught up in the fiasco, from an outsider perspective it is quite silly. The left and the right are not teams, it's not an either or paradigm, you can pick and choose what you like from each. This is what all great societies did.

Many ideas on the left would benefit incels. Universal Basic Income would allow us to escape the lookist workforce and NEET at home all day if we would so choose. Higher taxes on the wealthy would balance our budget, reduce our inflation tax, and give our dollars more purchasing power. A more sympathetic criminal justice system would allow incels who committed crimes out of frustration to be rehabilitated and forgiven rather than treated like a social pariah for life. Leftist administrators could help reduce bullying and exclusion in schools, something which plagued many of our childhoods. Government funded infrastructure such as the internet and affordable housing would make sure even the ugliest and truestcels have a home and bed to sleep in. It sucks not having women, but imagine not even having three meals a day.

TLDR - Don't discount all leftist policies to spite feminists
Bruh you just spoke my ideas in my avi :feelsLSD::feelsLSD::feelsLSD::feelsLSD::feelsLSD::feelsLSD::feelsLSD:
my idea similar to you but more brutall the treatment towards bullying and social exclusion.
 
imagine being a broke peon and actually CARING about politics like some stormfrontcel/commiecuck or worse, simp for trump or elon musk who don't give a fuck about you:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

doesn't matter if it's communism, nazism, anarchism, monarchy, nazbol meme bs, you are NOT going to turn into a 10/10 tall gigachad. stop fucking coping:society: a subhuman is a subhuman.

I'm part of the financial elite and have money invested in our global economy, plus I have the power to shape things so to me this actually matters.

The door is open to anyone who is willing to work for it.
 
Yep; I would have an actually sustainable NEET income if it wasn't for my fellow Britbongs voting in the fucking right-wing Tories every goddamn election.
 
>50k a year peon living in NYC in a cockroach infested apartment with crackwhores and thugmaxxed niggers literally next to him
>financial elite

good joke cuckservative jordan peterson simp how about you change your subhuman height or face huh? oh you ain't gonna change shit and you will die as a subhuman incel:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek: and a bluepilled pua peon on top of that:feelskek:

STFU already you pua:bluepill::soy: normie scum:feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::feelsree::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee: YOU ARE WORSE THAN IT CUCKS JUST ROPE ALREADY IN MINECRAFT:reeeeee::reeeeee::reeeeee::feelsree:

You're an entitled brat who has everything handed to you. This is why I absolutely despise this generation. You have it easier than anybody in history, have every opportunity open to you, you could become an investment banker or top corporate lawyer if you wanted to, but you'd rather whine than do any real work.

If the government made it illegal not to work, and said any permanent NEET must take up a job or go to prison, i would unironically support that just to see the whiners in my generation who have it all and still bitch get punished.
 
You're an entitled brat who has everything handed to you. This is why I absolutely despise this generation. You have it easier than anybody in history, have every opportunity open to you, you could become an investment banker or top corporate lawyer if you wanted to, but you'd rather whine than do any real work.
U sound like every retard boomer when it was them who had it easiest.
This GrAYfag is reaching untold levels of wagecuckery I'm starting to believe it's a larp
 
Why should i work like a peon? NEETmaxing+leechmaxxing till i get my inheritance and then i am SET for life :feelsLSD:

Enjoy living in a pod wagecuck:feelshaha: don’t forget to “ascend” with your boomer faggot boss, if you are lucky you might even get a threesome with your boomer faggot landlord of that pod of yours:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:

:feelsclown: Pua:bluepill::soy:

Because you live in the easiest time to make money, and you'll have it all if you get a job for slightly above minimum wage.

You are why gen z is seen as the laziest and most entitled generation, you have it the easiest, yet you whine the most.
 
Feminism isn't bad either as an ideology ;historically it removed us from having to betabux by forcing women into the economy, some books about Feminism are also ok. But the way modern feminist act and apply the ideology is shit.(same with leftist).
 
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Feminism isn't bad either as an ideology ;historically it removed us from having to betabux by forcing women into the economy, some feminist books are also ok. But the way modern feminist act and apply the ideology is shit.(same with leftist).

I'd much rather betabux than be a permanent incel.

I also work very long hours, it would be much better to have a wife.
 
Are you an infiltrator
 
I'd much rather betabux than be a permanent incel.

I also work very long hours, it would be much better to have a wife.
I wouldn't, imagine being stuck to someone who dosent geuinely like you but is stuck with you cause she's not allowed to get a job herself. Or an education(which feminism also pushed for). But now that women have those things its largely useless as do with its first purpose
 
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I wouldn't, imagine being stuck to someone who dosent geuinely like you but is stuck with you cause she's not allowed to get a job herself. Or an education(which feminism also pushed for). But now that women have those things its largely useless as do with its first purpose

That would be amazing, i'd still have someone to get physical touch from.
 
There's an issue, and a constant one. That various forms of Marxists try to appropriate Leftist ideas and then change it into something stupid, Wokeism (which by its own admission is based on Marxist framing) is a good example of this. I think that Rightcels are stupid if they believe that right-wing politics will somehow help us Incels, it is precisely the right-wing of politics which is the most accepting of natural hierarchies, which would enable the Chad monopoly to remain unchallenged.
 
That would be amazing, i'd still have someone to get physical touch from.
One of the main reasons I hate women is because of their inherent likelihood to stigmatize someone with my traits.
I guess we want different things brocel
 
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There's an issue, and a constant one. That various forms of Marxists try to appropriate Leftist ideas and then change it into something stupid, Wokeism (which by its own admission is based on Marxist framing) is a good example of this. I think that Rightcels are stupid if they believe that right-wing politics will somehow help us Incels, it is precisely the right-wing of politics which is the most accepting of natural hierarchies, which would enable the Chad monopoly to remain unchallenged.
Rutger Bregman level IQ
 
I've seen many incels flock to the far-right on every issue as an escape-patch from what they view as leftist feminism. Many incels correctly view feminism as a left-wing ideology and, understandably, take refuge in the right. As logical as this may seem to one caught up in the fiasco, from an outsider perspective it is quite silly. The left and the right are not teams, it's not an either or paradigm, you can pick and choose what you like from each. This is what all great societies did.

Many ideas on the left would benefit incels. Universal Basic Income would allow us to escape the lookist workforce and NEET at home all day if we would so choose. Higher taxes on the wealthy would balance our budget, reduce our inflation tax, and give our dollars more purchasing power. A more sympathetic criminal justice system would allow incels who committed crimes out of frustration to be rehabilitated and forgiven rather than treated like a social pariah for life. Leftist administrators could help reduce bullying and exclusion in schools, something which plagued many of our childhoods. Government funded infrastructure such as the internet and affordable housing would make sure even the ugliest and truestcels have a home and bed to sleep in. It sucks not having women, but imagine not even having three meals a day.

TLDR - Don't discount all leftist policies to spite feminists
I only dislike the modern leftists, the ones who are responsible for cancel culture and all the LGHDTV+ bullshit.
I think we can learn a lot from people like zizek, marx or lenin.
 
I only dislike the modern leftists, the ones who are responsible for cancel culture and all the LGHDTV+ bullshit.
I think we can learn a lot from people like zizek, marx or lenin.

Agreed but I don't really like Marx or Lenin. I do support capitalism and markets, I just support a little wealth equality within that paradigm.
 
Agreed but I don't really like Marx or Lenin. I do support capitalism and markets, I just support a little wealth equality within that paradigm.
With liking them I didn't mean I support their ideology, I just mean I like the way the analyzed things and taking some stuff from your opponents isn't wrong.
I am also for free markets buddy boyo
 

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