Ex-Soviet Union countries populations spreadsheet I made

[WizardofSoda]

2021 was the first year where the births in the Muslim ex-Soviet countries passed the births in the Christian countries. Russia is importing about 330,000 Central Asian Muslims a year. Although Russia is losing ~600,000 people a year from births minus deaths.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Over for USSR

 

[Med Amine]

interesting, i always hear that a lot of russians look like arabians, so that might be the reason for their sandnigger looks

 

[WizardofSoda]

interesting, i always hear that a lot of russians look like arabians, so that might be the reason for their sandnigger looks

Ya you don't realize at first how close say Chechens are to the Middle East. I mean that area is arguably in the Middle East.

 

[DenHaag]

Shocking.

Well done presenting this data in such a straightforward way.

Just, wow.

 

[CroatianManlet]

Its bad all the white countries are declining on the list

 

[CroatianManlet]

2021 was the first year where the births in the Muslim ex-Soviet countries passed the births in the Christian countries. Russia is importing about 330,000 Central Asian Muslims a year. .

I heard that russia is importing mostly ethnic russians from these countries idk if its true though but these countries do have a sizeable russian population especially kazakhstan (over 15%)

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Interesting. Tbh, it's a bit of a whitepill when you look closer at the progression from decade to decade and compare them, since you can clearly see the decline in the Baltics significantly slowing. From the data I've seen, Estonia's and Lithuania's populations actually started growing by 2015 and 2020 respectively, though of course it's still too early to change long-term data like this.

Not to mention their positive net migration rates (the top commenter points out that Lithuania's data is outdated and it has a positive net migration rate by now):


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/grilsz/net_migration_rate_in_europe_per_1000_people/


Absolutely over for Moldova though, holy shit.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Interesting. Tbh, it's a bit of a whitepill when you look closer at the progression from decade to decade and compare them, since you can clearly see the decline in the Baltics significantly slowing. From the data I've seen, Estonia's and Lithuania's populations actually started growing by 2015 and 2020 respectively, though of course it's still too early to change long-term data like this.

Not to mention their positive net migration rates (the top commenter points out that Lithuania's data is outdated and it has a positive net migration rate by now):


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/grilsz/net_migration_rate_in_europe_per_1000_people/


Absolutely over for Moldova though, holy shit.

So far by this way I am looking at the numbers here, the turnaround hasn't happened. Although possibly if I divided it into 5 year periods it would show up in the 2015-2020 period. I am using the numbers from Wikipedia demographics pages.


Thanks for pointing out Moldova, I double checked it, and they had broken out the Transnistria population for my chart in 2000. But the 1990 number was including Transnistria. So now I added in the Transnistria numbers.

Transnistria population that I have now added in to my overall spreadsheet.

2000: 651,800
2010: 518,000
2020: 465,800

So this is the overall numbers for Moldova updated:

1990: 4,364,000
2000: 4,291,800
2010: 4,081,000
2020: 3,086,295

• Starting with 2014, the sharp changes[14] in the statistics are because of the new calculation methods and according with the latest census, and include only data of resident people that lived in the country predominantly during the last 12 months, regardless of temporary absences (for the purpose of recreation, vacations, visits to relatives and friends, business, medical treatment, religious pilgrimages, etc.).[15]

Wikipedia has this explanation for why the drop off in 2014.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Oh ya look at the number of Ukrainians the Baltics countries got..

https://incels.is/threads/over-8-mi...-re-homed-here-are-their-destinations.476467/

Lithuania: +75,197
Estonia: +67,601
Latvia: +35,243

Sum: +178,401

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

Over for USSR

Good those white niggers deserved it

 

[WizardofSoda]

I then just made this projection. It assumes the same rate of growth/decline as from 1990-2020, for the next 30 year periods. You can see 2080 would be the crossover point.

Then when I make projections for things I add in conservative estimating. So maybe I would guess by the year 2120, aka about 100 years from now, the former Soviet Union area will be majority Muslim.

What I think will happen is Russia will increase the rate of immigration from Muslim countries in Central Asia. Like 10 years from now Russia might be getting 600,000 net immigrants a year from those countries.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Good those white niggers deserved it

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Good those white niggers deserved it

that's what they got for spreading commie fuckery which somehow is worse than globohomo

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

that's what they got for spreading commie fuckery which somehow is worse than globohomo

Hitler tried to save the world from them

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

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So far by this way I am looking at the numbers here, the turnaround hasn't happened. Although possibly if I divided it into 5 year periods it would show up in the 2015-2020 period. I am using the numbers from Wikipedia demographics pages.

Yeah, that's what I meant, according to the World Bank, Estonia's population only started growing again in 2015, so it wouldn't really show when the data from 2010 to 2020 are taken together, though you can still see that the difference from 2010 to 2020 is a lot less severe than the one from 2000 to 2010. And of course, Lithuania's data wouldn't change at all, since they only started growing in 2020.

So this is the overall numbers for Moldova updated:

1990: 4,364,000
2000: 4,291,800
2010: 4,081,000
2020: 3,086,295

• Starting with 2014, the sharp changes[14] in the statistics are because of the new calculation methods and according with the latest census, and include only data of resident people that lived in the country predominantly during the last 12 months, regardless of temporary absences (for the purpose of recreation, vacations, visits to relatives and friends, business, medical treatment, religious pilgrimages, etc.).[15]

Wikipedia has this explanation for why the drop off in 2014.

Still absolutely brutal for the country as it shows just how many of "its" people predominantly live in other countries.

Oh ya look at the number of Ukrainians the Baltics countries got..

https://incels.is/threads/over-8-mi...-re-homed-here-are-their-destinations.476467/

Lithuania: +75,197
Estonia: +67,601
Latvia: +35,243

Sum: +178,401

Yeah, Ukrainian refugees flooding those countries right now also don't hurt.

 

[Khanivore]

Good those white niggers deserved it

But we didn't do jack shit to you all

 

[Khanivore]

that's what they got for spreading commie fuckery which somehow is worse than globohomo

You don't even know why it is worse

Jesus

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

But we didn't do jack shit to you all

USSR wanted to control the world

 

[mlcurrycel]

You don't even know why it is worse

Jesus

They think incels didn't exist before 1917

 

[mlcurrycel]

But we didn't do jack shit to you all

Shhh they don't want to blame American women for being whores so they'll blame starving poor Slavic men instead

 

[Khanivore]

USSR wanted to control the world

Wanted and did control - two vastly different things

Now we are controlled by US. Happy now?

 

[Khanivore]

Shhh they don't want to blame American women for being whores so they'll blame starving poor Slavic men instead

Shut up, please

 

[WizardofSoda]

Yeah, that's what I meant, according to the World Bank, Estonia's population only started growing again in 2015, so it wouldn't really show when the data from 2010 to 2020 are taken together, though you can still see that the difference from 2010 to 2020 is a lot less severe than the one from 2000 to 2010. And of course, Lithuania's data wouldn't change at all, since they only started growing in 2020.


Still absolutely brutal for the country as it shows just how many of "its" people predominantly live in other countries.


Yeah, Ukrainian refugees flooding those countries right now also don't hurt.

It looks like the 3 of them together have turned the corner. I looked up their nominal GDP per capita as well and its pretty good at $30,000. So they can get immigrants if they want.

In addition to regular immigration, there is always some place where the war is that there are a bunch of refugees that countries can get. For example lately, Afghanistan, Syria & now Ukraine.

 

[Pajeetsingh]

Collapse of ussr and its negative consequences will never go away, all the world conflict are direct results of it today.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Collapse of ussr and its negative consequences will never go away, all the world conflict are direct results of it today.

Ya because of how huge the Soviet Union was, its central position in Eurasia, and all the Soviet allies, and the ideological aspect of it.. it was this huge chaos resulting from it and still going on.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Collapse of ussr and its negative consequences will never go away, all the world conflict are direct results of it today.

Krushchev, and later, Reagan, may be responsible for extinction of humans

 

[Pajeetsingh]

Krushchev, and later, Reagan, may be responsible for extinction of humans

Indeed.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Indeed.

I don't know your perspective on Stalin vs Trotsky, have you read Grover Furr?

 

[Pajeetsingh]

I don't know your perspective on Stalin vs Trotsky, have you read Grover Furr?

No, im a Maoist.

 

[mlcurrycel]

No, im a Maoist.

Okay cool, I've heard Maoists sidestep the Stalin question by saying he was 70% correct, you might change to Maoist who believes Stalin was 100% correct after reading Grover Furr

 

[Khanivore]

Okay cool, I've heard Maoists sidestep the Stalin question by saying he was 70% correct, you might change to Maoist who believes Stalin was 100% correct after reading Grover Furr

Nobody can be 100% correct, not Stalin, not Hitler, everyone makes mistakes

Stalin was a little too harsh on repressions

 

[mlcurrycel]

Nobody can be 100% correct, not Stalin, not Hitler, everyone makes mistakes

Stalin was a little too harsh on repressions

You're 100% correct, however I still admire Stalin's tenacity and cannot imagine doing anywhere close as good of a job as he did with the information he had

 

[mlcurrycel]

No, im a Maoist.

Nobody can be 100% correct, not Stalin, not Hitler, everyone makes mistakes

Stalin was a little too harsh on repressions

https://stalinsocietypk.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/another-view-of-stalin1.pdf

 

[Khanivore]

You're 100% correct

Nope too, i might be correct in this issue, and be a gigantic failure in another issue - so I can't be 100% correct in everything

 

[mlcurrycel]

Nobody can be 100% correct, not Stalin, not Hitler, everyone makes mistakes

Stalin was a little too harsh on repressions

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/yvs_jls2017.pdf

 

[mlcurrycel]

Nobody can be 100% correct, not Stalin, not Hitler, everyone makes mistakes

Stalin was a little too harsh on repressions

There were traitor spies inside Stalin's spy network. Unfortunate vagarie of history.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Nope too, i might be correct in this issue, and be a gigantic failure in another issue - so I can't be 100% correct in everything

I was baiting you lol, don't worry I understand

 

[Khanivore]

I was baiting you lol, don't worry I understand

Your ideology cannot be implemented in real world. Have a nice day

 

[mlcurrycel]

Your ideology cannot be implemented in real world. Have a nice day

Thank you, I will. Just sponsor my visa when the time comes and then you can watch from afar whether I sink or swim.

 

[Khanivore]

Thank you, I will. Just sponsor my visa when the time comes and then you can watch from afar whether I sink or swim.

Sure, sure

 

[mlcurrycel]

Sure, sure

Hey, scientists say south west Kazakhstan will have less rain because of climate change. Have you heard about this?

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

Wanted and did control - two vastly different things

Now we are controlled by US. Happy now?

No I wish the same thing would happen to US

 

[WizardofSoda]

I heard that russia is importing mostly ethnic russians from these countries idk if its true though but these countries do have a sizeable russian population especially kazakhstan (over 15%)

I think in the early years after the Soviet Union broke up most of the immigration was like you said. Ethnic Russians heading for Russia. But now most of them have already moved to Russia and the remaining Russians in those places probably are happy staying in the countries like Kazakhstan.

What Russians officials say openly is they need masses of workers from these Central Asian Muslim countries.

 

[Khanivore]

No I wish the same thing would happen to US

Okay, then i am sorry

 

[Khanivore]

I think in the early years after the Soviet Union broke up most of the immigration was like you said. Ethnic Russians heading for Russia. But now most of them have already moved to Russia and the remaining Russians in those places probably are happy staying in the countries like Kazakhstan.

What Russians officials say openly is they need masses of workers from these Central Asian Muslim countries.

Tell me, why are you obsessed with us? Yankee, go home! Think about your homecountry, because what are you saying here is horsecrap, really

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

It looks like the 3 of them together have turned the corner. I looked up their nominal GDP per capita as well and its pretty good at $30,000. So they can get immigrants if they want.

Yeah, those countries start-up hotbed maxxed like crazy, and now are enjoying the fruits of that.

Estonia has the highest number of start-ups per capita in Europe and CEE's most competitive IT sector:

Estonia leads Europe in startups, unicorns and investments per capita — Invest in Estonia

“Estonia once again tops the charts,” states Atomico’s recent report, where Estonia is continuously leading Europe in terms of startups, unicorns and investments per capita.

investinestonia.com

Emerging Europe's most competitive IT sector? Estonia, again

The latest edition of a major Emerging Europe report reveals that Estonia continues to boast the most competitive IT sector in the region.

emerging-europe.com

While Lithuania's IT sector is currently just behind Estonia's according to the report they cite, plus, they have more start-ups per capita than rich countries like France or Austria, with a specific focus on fintech, with 263 fintech companies based in their country of not even 3 million.

 

[Nytick]

So how can we save muh White Race?

 

[WizardofSoda]

Yeah, those countries start-up hotbed maxxed like crazy, and now are enjoying the fruits of that.

Estonia has the highest number of start-ups per capita in Europe and CEE's most competitive IT sector:

Estonia leads Europe in startups, unicorns and investments per capita — Invest in Estonia

“Estonia once again tops the charts,” states Atomico’s recent report, where Estonia is continuously leading Europe in terms of startups, unicorns and investments per capita.

investinestonia.com

Emerging Europe's most competitive IT sector? Estonia, again

The latest edition of a major Emerging Europe report reveals that Estonia continues to boast the most competitive IT sector in the region.

emerging-europe.com

While Lithuania's IT sector is currently just behind Estonia's according to the report they cite, plus, they have more start-ups per capita than rich countries like France or Austria, with a specific focus on fintech, with 263 fintech companies based in their country of not even 3 million.

Fintech is a great industry, these Nerdics types seem great at programming.

Thats the plan for Ukraine after the war. Is Ukraine can't really compete with the industrial champions in Germany and France, and Ukraine can't have a good economy off of resources like Russia can. But what can Ukraine do. They can work with Poland and Lithuania at having more economic liberty/less regulations than the Western Europeans. And a cheap cost of living and cheap cost of educated people to go into startups, among other things with economic liberty.

A Polak libertarian I knew, he knew the history and at one time Poland was near the leading edge like 400 years ago for creating markets, property rights, etc. They also have the countless privately owned farms which are really useful for many things with economic liberty. The farmers are already out there with their own land and capital, and thinking up ways to make money in businesses. Those farms can be turned into anything too, whether subdivisions or warehouses, factories, whatever.

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Fintech is a great industry, these Nerdics types seem great at programming.

Thats the plan for Ukraine after the war. Is Ukraine can't really compete with the industrial champions in Germany and France, and Ukraine can't have a good economy off of resources like Russia can. But what can Ukraine do. They can work with Poland and Lithuania at having more economic liberty/less regulations than the Western Europeans. And a cheap cost of living and cheap cost of educated people to go into startups, among other things with economic liberty.

A Polak libertarian I knew, he knew the history and at one time Poland was near the leading edge like 400 years ago for creating markets, property rights, etc. They also have the countless privately owned farms which are really useful for many things with economic liberty. The farmers are already out there with their own land and capital, and thinking up ways to make money in businesses. Those farms can be turned into anything too, whether subdivisions or warehouses, factories, whatever.

Yeah, that just about seems to be their strategy. Thanks for the interesting info.