Having 2D foid avis is at worst minor worship of a non-existent ideal of how foids should be but aren't IRL. Cool arguments but you already lost the debate, so go ahead and complain about it while I keep these anime loli thighs as my avi
Perfect example of halomaxxing passive-aggressiveness.
Nothing to say really but just taking the opportunity to act nasty. In other words, foid behavior.
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Memes can sometimes - very effectively - communicate and convey what's needed, without the need to construct unnecessary rebuttals.
Who said anything about "neutral?" I never even used the word or implied anything about neutrality. Of course, they have a reason to put in the time, energy, and money to make the damn thing; they're trying to convince an audience to come to the side of the fence they're standing on.
But calling it "praise" or "blame" is not accurate. You're either intentionally misusing the words or attempting to change their meanings.
When you see an ad for a charity to help fight child hunger and cancer are you seriously trying to say that the ad is "blaming" poverty and cancer? Because, JFL, if you do.
This is just more of the false, "praise/blame" dichotomy.
This is clearly false. When you buy a bag of milk it just shows the logo and what the type of milk it is (1%, 2% etc.). It doesn't tell how amazing "Tom, Dick and Harry Farms" milk is.
This is why people (me) sometimes use memes. You say the most absurd things that the only sensible reaction to it is to just cage at it.
"B-b-but..."
No, they're paradigm shifts in thinking. The new paradigm affects future thought, which then affects future theories and experiments developed. Trust has nothing to do with it. You're creating a false abstraction of how science works and then attacking that abstraction. We've been down this road before, hence the other meme.
This kind of thing is why I can't take you seriously and just do this instead:
Yes, YOU don't. That's the problem.
You're already starting off from a position of assuming that everyone who uses an anime avi is seeking everyone's validation and are trying to "sell" their user image. This is demonstrably false. If you're trying to argue that users like @happiless are using an anime avi just for that reason, then JFL @ you. There's really nothing more to say on that.
Not all memes are meant to be funny, but all memes are meant to communicate something.
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Most people seem to understand either other pretty decently despite not being very well versed in etymology.
I don't know what else I expected tbh.
Sure, he does it too (don't we all sometimes?) but IMHO it's different. Something like
has a hyperbolic and comedic undertone, at least in my perception. Yours was just plainly insulting his intelligence. No flair, just a straight gut punch. Besides, it was kinda ironic that you were trying to exalt yourself while fighting fire with fire. All of that is what I meant with my "poor taste" remark.
Stop projecting. You are the one who uses ad hominems and other malicious tactics, not me. I'm always straight forward (which I have to be, because my english doesn't allow for complex gibber gabber).
Also: Why are you not tagging me correctly when you are telling lies about me? You are such a dishonest little bitch, it's sad. @Ahnfeltia is correct about you and your poor taste.
This.
@JayGoptri and @K9Otaku are delusional. They're completely out of touch with reality. In their heads, everyone who has an anime avi is a religious foid worshipper who intentionally tries to gain forum halo and other nonsense, when in reality for 98% of people they're just meaningless internet pictures which are changed regularly anyways. Most avis don't have a meaning at all, it's just what users find aesthetically pleasing at the moment, next week they might already have a different avi.
They do when they talk about simple things. This is the reason why this forum has become such a constant repetition of "water is wet" type threads. In order to go into deeper and more interesting things, you need to have a broader vocabulary and a capacity to use it to express less obvious ideas.
What do you mean by this exactly?
What I meant is that if we discuss this now, we will be at an impasse very soon. You will say one thing and I will say another and it will be sterile.
Look at my exchange with @based_meme above, for an example of what a sterile conversation looks like.
Why did people insist so much on having them back then, if they are "meaningless"?
Having multiple images of you goddess does not make it any less of a goddess. In Hinduism, they are called avatars, and multiple images of them are displayed ad infinitum in every Hindu temple. Idolatry has always multiplied images.
If it is not neutral, it is either positive or negative, right? Talking positively about something is praise. Talking negatively about something is blame.
"trying to convince" = talking about something in a positive or negative way, i.e. praise or blame.
Something very strange is happening here. You think highly of your capacity to think and talk logically, right? Yet, a simple inference like:
Talking positively about X ==> Praising X
seems "inaccurate" to you. This is weird because the above is the meaning of the verb "to praise" in English.
What does a child hunger ad do if not praise those who will give for that cause? That is why it is called "virtue signalling". "Virtue" is by definition praiseworthy.
In the case of milk, yes. Yet, if you look at other grocery packages like biscuits, cereals, frozen food, etc, you will find colorful packages that reproduce the theme of the latest ad campaign about the product.
- "A crisis in science arises when confidence is lost in the ability of the paradigm to solve particularly worrying puzzles called ‘anomalies’" , "A widespread failure in such confidence Kuhn calls a ‘crisis’" Stanford Encyclopedia in Philosophy article on Thomas Kuhn.
- "as technology improves and precision increases, the room for error shrinks and confidence in theories rises greatly." from this educational resource on Kuhnian theory.
- "The community’s confidence in a paradigm to guide research is the basis for the conversion of its members, who now commit to it." IEP article on Thomas Kuhn.
- Dictionary.com "Confidence: full trust; belief in the powers, trustworthiness, or reliability of a person or thing: "
- Merriam Webster "Confidence: ... faith or belief that one will act in a right, proper, or effective way, ... a relation of trust or intimacy"
- Collins "Confidence: ... Synonyms: trust, belief, faith"
I am not "attacking" trust in Science. I am praising it. According to me, trust is a good thing.
Exactly. See below.
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Basically the gut punch is needed because we passed the point of trying to teach a long time ago. I had the flair but not anymore, it's not needed when argument after argument consists of "you shitskin Indians don't know anything blaa blaa". Also, it's painfully obvious that when @nice_try gets decimated by K9OTAKU in an argument, he gets very upset and begins hurling insult after insult like bombs. So in return they get carpet bombed. Among their many sins are advocating for worship of the female and of themselves in my opinion and I will do what I need to combat that.
I request you to help, or remain silent please. Otherwise they will use the chaos to obfuscate the argument parameters. It's what they do well. Thanks brocel.
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Half the pictures are of Gaddafi
This kind of thing is EXACTLY why you should take what he said and what I am saying seriously. I know that you can sense it works this way in life. After all you can see the utility in it. It's just tough and a bit sad to admit it works like this perhaps, at first so you are avoiding admitting it.
One is of Ghaddafi, one other is of Sacha Baron Cohen imitating GhaddafiHalf the pictures are of Gaddafi
Maybe it's just over here then, but Dutch milk cartons have a lot superfluous BS on them. E.g.,
The second panel talks about some means implemented to milk last longer without going sour and all the helpful nutrients in milk. The rightmost panel talks about how well the cows were treated. I can't readily find a picture of one, but I've seen milk cartons with pictures of farmers and accompanying anecdotes on them as well.
I was talking about that one instance... This can of worms is more than I bargained for.@@Ahnfeltia is correct about you and your poor taste.
I'mma take you up on that latter offer. Who am I to stand betwixt your animosity?
Anime avi = incel culture.
You can keep writing essays but nothing changes that fact.
You can keep writing essays but nothing changes that fact.
I'd say the vocabulary you employ is less about obscure words and more about assigning unorthodox nuances to more or less common words, but I get your point. Normies don't often care about nuance, except when it comes to social cues and body languange.
I knew what you meant. What I said was intended as a quip at myself for trying while I should've known I'd get shot down.
Aniket AVs = trashy part of incel culture
Because banning things unjustly is a leftist reddit trait. We have plenty of censorship on the internet, we don't want it to come to our forum, too.
If you look closely, you can see that many people who voted yes on the avi poll actually don't even have an anime avatar ... how the fuck do you explain that?
Not this bullshit again. Not everything is a religion. Just because somebody has an anime avi doesn't mean that he worhships the character as a god, where do you even get that ridiculous idea from ... Jesus ...
As I said, I barely post on the forum, I don't give a shit about replies or halo, I just use an avi that I find aesthetically pleasing, nothing more to it.
Why do you keep telling lies about me, it's so tiresome. Just read the thread and you will see that I decimated @K9Otaku and he then started to throw insults like "you sound like a foid" or "are you trannymaxxing?".
Easily. Maybe they are not in the deeper stages of worship like you.
He says not everything is about religion and then writes the word "Jesus" lol. I don't think you understand the simplicity of what we are saying...
You always say this "I barely post, yet you have over 16,000 posts and respond to every ody everyday lol. I guess its just like your "I'm getting a girl now and leaving" comments.
No. That's not what happened. I decide what happened as a third party, and I say that you are the one who throws insults constantly and acts like a whiny little prick and you are the one who isn't able to construct arguments. I think you struggle to get your thoughts out a lot. Just let @based_meme do it, and then we will blast him and he can take the carpet bombing. You need to rest. You are an incompetent fella.
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I don't worship foids. Deal with it.
aaand the 40yo out of touch curry boomer doesn't get the pun, AGAIN.
I can't believe you are a real person, I just can't.
Again a false accusation. I don't "always say this", actually I never said this, because there was never a reason to, because until recently I was posting quite alot. Ironically, I never had an anime avi in that time. Can you believe that, moron?
So shove your lies up your ass fucking retard.
Yes, it is what happened. You are not a third party, you are up this otaku faggots ass, so nothing you say concerning him is accurate.
Why do you keep tagging @based_meme ? We already told you that we have no association with each other you complete retard.
You do. Admit it ! Your biggest desire is to be a Mega Cuck as admitted to me many times by your delusions of acsending with white Euro trash or any toilet you can find.
No no. You ESL German helmet. What I pointed out was making it into a play on words, but you did not intentionally do that. That's not a pun the way you said it and also, you are not getting the brilliance of it. Actually, religion does have a lot to do with our daily lives.
That's because you likely know mostly NPCs.I can't believe you are a real person, I just can't.
Then why did you start the worshiping recently?
No thanks. My ass is exit only.
You have an association here. Along with Copexedus. You have it because I have made the association for you. You guys push very similar ideas and shares delusions.
I did not want to "shoot you down", just to avoid the bad blood that talking past each other inevitably brings.
No, I don't. You obviously don't know anything about me or my desires, so please stop making false assumptions, thanks.
I'm tired of constantly denying all the false accusations you are throwing out.
Another false accusation. You obviously don't know anything, because it was intentional.
You don't know who I know, so don't make false assumptions again.
I did not. I don't worship. I already told you a 100 times you fucking piece of shit. What use does a conversation with you have when you don't accept or believe anything I say??
You wish
K9Otaku can tell a story about how virgin your ass is Just because people agree on a topic doesn't make them associated.
Because worship is an addiction and the denials of an addict are generally not credible. An alcoholic will often say: "I am not addicted to alcohol, I can stop whenever I want", yet nobody will believe him. That's why the first thing they make you say in AA sessions is "I am an alcoholic"
You two goofy ass internet dorks accusing me of worshipping foids doesn't make it true.
I don't worship foids. There is nothing you can point out that would suggest that I worship foids, because I don't.
An anime avi (which I only have since recently only to make manchilds like you seethe) isn't foid worship.
End of story.
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No. A compliment, for example, is not praise, even though it's talking positively. And you can easily talk negative about something without being blame, e.g., gossip.
The error is in your antecedent. Your erroneously framing all positive talk as "praise" and all negative talk as "blame."
This is sophistry. Your claim was that all displays are advertisements and a form of praise. Now you're moving the goalpost by saying, "well, you see, it's not the display IN the advertisement that's what's called praise, but what it's potentially saying about YOU, the audience. Buy into what they're selling (charity) and you, too, can be praiseworthy!"
It's a logo, label, and a description of the contents. Where is the praise?
We've been over this. Trusting that your car will turn on when you insert the key into the ignition is not the same as trusting that your degenerate gambler best friend is going to pay you back your money, which is not the same as trusting that gravity will continue to work like it always has.
The kind of trust Kuhn is talking about is about the tools and methods available to solve the so-called anomalous problems. He's not talking about the efficacy and effective of the tools to solve all problems in science. You've taken this and ran wild with it in your own personal philosophy. If Kuhn was alive right now, he'd be shaking his head in embarrassment at how badly he's been misunderstood by you.
You're the kind of person who will read Gödel's work and then preach about how we can't trust mathematics.
More sophistry. In the past you've criticized what science is - a methodology to obtain knowledge and truth about the world around us and reality at large - and have tried introducing "trust" as some kind of thesis to the anti-thesis of "truth" to combat a perceived analogue to religion that science has supposedly become (in the minds of masses perhaps, but not in the practice of it), since you see everything through the lens of religion and everything we do is some expression of it.
"Having a coffee every morning? It's a daily ritual, therefore religion.
Going to work nearly every day of the week? Another ritual. Religion.
Eating? Done three times a day. Definitely religion.
Fapping? It's porn whore worship. Worship is religion. Therefore, fapping is also religion."
It's getting notoriously absurd.
A small number of people have admitted to doing it, therefore everyone does it?
This is how you reason? JFL
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I didn't mean in it a charged way. It's all good
Yeah you told me you are going to acsend and leave this site. You are careless as fuck about what you say and it's come back to bite you. Deal with it. Stop begging me.
Sure bud.
Sure bud.
Sure angry fella.
And @based_meme can help you find a boyfriend in Germany or London or wherever you Euro trash fags hang out, don't worry.You wish
Says the asshole who is trying to make the same bullshit insults about myself and another user but then cries like a little bitch when it is done to him. LMAO.
We appear not to be speaking the same language. To me, a compliment is praise and gossip is blame. Honestly.
That is what the virtue signalling ad does and I am not the one being devious here. The people doing such ads are.
The word "chef", which connotes "cuisine", is a form of praise. The halo that seems to be issuing from the pasta, like from a saint's head, is also a traditional iconographic equivalent of praise in Western culture. We are so used to seeing these things that we no longer realize they are praise (even though we are influenced by them unconsciously).
It's a logo, label, and a description of the contents. Where is the praise?
There is a difference in intensity. Apart from that, I do not see the difference in the mental attitude. In all cases, you expect something to happen even though it may not. Of course the probabilities are different: P(gravity) > P(car starts) >> P(pay back). However, the mental goings on are the same.
I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding what Kuhn is saying. What do you mean by "the tools"? To me, Kuhn's theory is quite simple. He says that when doing "normal science", scientists trust the one reigning theory (let us say Newtonian Mechanics). Then when "anomalies" pop up a little too often, people start to have doubts; they trust the theory less and less. Then when a new theory emerges, people do not trust it at first, but as evidence supporting it piles up, their trust increases. Eventually, the old theory is wholly discredited (it has become completely distrusted) and the new one is trusted by all. This is what happened with relativistic mechanics in the early years of the XXth theory. In so doing, Kuhn is describing a transfer of trust from the old to the new theory, and therefore describing trust as the basic engine of scientific progress.
Yes. I do not believe that Science gives us knowledge or truth. What it does is give us trust in predictive methods that we can use to anticipate what the world around us will do. For example, we can predict the trajectory of a probe within the solar system and we trust that our predictions will be accurate enough to be practically useful. That is trust in a predictive model, not knowledge or truth. Relativistic mechanics gives us better predictions than the old newtonian one (especially near relativistic speeds and massive objects) but we can have no guarantee that the world actually works the way the theory says. The ability to predict does not equate with "knowledge of what things are"
For example, we could have used Newtonian mechanics to go to the Moon, while not having developed relativity yet. Let us suppose that, fresh from our success, we now build a big nuclear rocket like the one from Project Orion and try to use it to go to the nearest star, while still being unaware of relativistic mechanics. When the spaceship would have reached speeds of around 100 000 km/s (1/3 of C), we would have started to see significant discrepancies with our predicted trajectory and we would have been puzzled as to why. What guarantee do we have that we are not in such a situation now? What guarantee do we have that relativity will not fail when we try it in some yet untested range of speeds and mass?
None. We trust relativity for the moment but we fully expect that we will need to replace it by something else one day.
If you make the step from "trusted predictive models" to "knowledge of truth", you are making a jump from science to superstition; from the empirically verifiable to the metaphysical.
What I just meant is that both science and religion are based on trust. There is no fundamental difference. Science reaches very high levels of trust on very narrow fields of predictive practice, while religion deals with general life principles although at lower levels of trust.
That is not an attack on science neither on religion.
People are generally loath to admit that they are doing a nasty but tempting thing. Therefore, if only a small number admit to it, it is reasonable to assume that they are just the tip of a pretty big iceberg. This is how you deal with human nature.
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Clearly. I don't know about you, but I'm speaking English, not some bastardization of it where many concepts are narrowly compartmentalized into two words that don't mean the things you're describing.
Then you have a very binary and simplistic outlook on the concepts of praise and blame. It's like all of these things are the nail to your hammer.
I didn't say you were being devious, but you did move the goalpost, whether intentionally or not.
OH GTFOH WITH THIS BULLSHIT. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE SOME FUCKING ART HISTORIAN INTERPRETING A PIECE. GET A GRIP.
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
I'm done with your fuckery.
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Ok, so you are "done" (in a huff, like a chick) just when you were about to have to answer about Kuhn ... about whom I had excellent arguments. How convenient!
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Tbf, that was a tangent from the subject of your thread. It wasn't necessary to tread old grounds and continue feeding into your nonsense here with how you appropriate common words and misuse them to make your specious arguments, especially after that absolute fuckery about the canned food logo.
The nonsense you try to pull off is summed up succinctly here in the bolded.
You use common words to say something they don't mean and then argue against anyone who points out how it doesn't work. Anyone who tries arguing ends up starting off having to lean on their back foot, because we're taking basic words and twisting their meanings before we even get to the heart of things.
When you have to twist the meanings of basic words to try and make your point, you know your position is dubious. What you're doing here is nothing more than rhetoric and sophistry, and I just don't have patience for that bullshit.
It is not a tangent. Trust is the central issue here. The reason halomaxxing and foid worship are bad is that they pollute the trust environment. The halo is fake credit that is based on nothing concrete. It is counterfeit credit.
Since trust is the basis of language, and therefore of everything we do to survive, including science, polluting it with counterfeit credit is a major crime. But of course, in order to realize this, you first have to realize how central trust is. Hence my insistence on it.
So, about Kuhn ... ?
It is called sociological hermeneutics and is practiced quite frequently in that field. In order to go beyond the surface of cultural phenomena, such careful analysis is required.
So yes, this pasta can label is praising the pasta, as is to be expected. I do not understand why you find it so strange. But do you really find it strange, or are you just pissed that I have indeed made a convincing case that advertisement is praise?
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You're talking completely out of your ass now. (As if you weren't before.
)JFL, what? Understanding is the basis for language. If one side doesn't understand the other, the language becomes meaningless, because it's entire purpose is to communicate.
If I recite the most beautiful poetry, but do so in a language that's alien to you, it's beauty wouldn't be made apparent in the least. It would be no different than if I were to talk to myself or say nothing at all.
What about him? You've finessed your way into introducing philosophy of science into a conversation about fucking anime avatars
, but it's got nothing to do with it, regardless of how you spin it.
Sure ... You really do fear my arguments on this topic it seems.What about him? You've finessed your way into introducing philosophy of science into a conversation about fucking anime avatars
So, for the record, you are letting this stand.
For the record also, you introduced science into the debate:What about him? You've finessed your way into introducing philosophy of science into a conversation about fucking anime avatars
And now, you are running away from the consequences like a coward.
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No. But keep fellating yourself.
I mentioned it in commentary; I didn't argue for/against anything. It was you who picked it up and went ham with it.
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My poor @based_meme, I really feel sorry for you.
I thought you were a genuine worshiper of Knowledge and Truth, but I have to change my assessment now. You are nothing but a solipsistic worshiper of your own ass, like the innumerable Stirnerian, Nietzschean, Existentialists and Post-Modernists who are currently piling up in the garbage cans of history.
You are absolutely not interested in knowledge or truth. The only thing that matters to you is to maintain the delusional belief in your own semi-divine superiority for a little longer. This is how you want to think about yourself, the winner who has the last laugh:
What you don't realize is that solipsistic nihilism does not lead to superhuman supremacy but to mental decomposition of the late-life Nitzsche style. You are rotting in your own juice (like all of us) but on top of the isolation we all share, you add your own layer of delusional pretension. You are locked in the double prison of Inceldom and your own hubristic masochism. As a result, you are much closer to Dostoevsky's underground man than to the laughing Chads above, despite your frequent boasts.
I genuinely feel pity for you.
I thought you were a genuine worshiper of Knowledge and Truth, but I have to change my assessment now. You are nothing but a solipsistic worshiper of your own ass, like the innumerable Stirnerian, Nietzschean, Existentialists and Post-Modernists who are currently piling up in the garbage cans of history.
You are absolutely not interested in knowledge or truth. The only thing that matters to you is to maintain the delusional belief in your own semi-divine superiority for a little longer. This is how you want to think about yourself, the winner who has the last laugh:
Let us see if you live up to the implicit claim you are making with these gifs. As long as you can maintain the illusion that you are debating rationally, you keep answering. But as soon as you feel that your arguments are about to be seriously challenged, you leave in a huff (like a girl) and you retreat into mere insult:
As a result, you are absolutely impenetrable to any suggestion of any kind of new idea. You are as closed minded as a Mullah, a Brahmin Pandit or a Hassidic Rabbi; as locked from the inside as an oyster at low tide.OH GTFOH WITH THIS BULLSHIT. GET A GRIP. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
What you don't realize is that solipsistic nihilism does not lead to superhuman supremacy but to mental decomposition of the late-life Nitzsche style. You are rotting in your own juice (like all of us) but on top of the isolation we all share, you add your own layer of delusional pretension. You are locked in the double prison of Inceldom and your own hubristic masochism. As a result, you are much closer to Dostoevsky's underground man than to the laughing Chads above, despite your frequent boasts.
I genuinely feel pity for you.
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Nigga... This cringe attempt to try to prod and goad me into an emotional or long-winded response isn't going to work.
Just my 2cents. That's allNigga... This cringe attempt to try to prod and goad me into an emotional or long-winded response isn't going to work.
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OK, that's fair.
Let people enjoy things
That is exactly what foids say about any kind of degeneracy.
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