@hurdleafterhurdle there are forums/subreddits dedicated for people like you and they are definitely not this one.
I won't even go into how much you contradict yourself in your sentences because two neurons are enough to help anyone see that.
It's simple: if you look good enough and the problem is in your head, get the fuck off of here. Redpill forums, looksmaxxing forums, they're all waiting for failed normies like you to help out. Sure, you may not have had sex, but simply being approached as a guy is a strong indicative of above average attractiveness. The chances are and will probably keep being there and they will all be wasted if you think the people here are '' your group ''.
The people here (the non larpers/fakecels) have their lives genuinely destroyed by their physical aspect and they cannot compensate how repulsive it is with no amount of game/redpill/socialmaxxing. You, on the other hand, because of reasons I've mentioned above, should be learning those as they can help you get what you want.
Victimizing yourself feels good and trying to integrate within a space with people who are bottom of the social barrel may make you feel better, but you are sacrificing clearly existing prospects of future romance/sex/whatever. Things that never existed for the average user on this forum, who, if they had your circumstances, would have never set one foot on this forum.
For some people, especially people like you, the problem is actually YOU. The way YOU behave and the garbage YOU decide to think about your life.
I know what you mean because I have read this before here, again, I have browsed here since 2016 or so, or whenever people started getting inflamed about this in daily life and my friends started making edgy jokes about it. I think the fact I'm still here, albeit very rarely, after 4 years ish, would say elsewise about me, but nonetheless...
I'm sorry. I really am. Because I would like another forum myself. I don't expect people who are incels for the most genuine reason, bad looks, to understand or have any sympathy or mercy for someone like me. I'm not going to find one though because it almost certainly doesn't exist, unless you count wizardchan which I don't, that's more escapism and burrowing your nose in books a la old /R9k/.
The other places, lookism, looksmax, **********, are not any better than here and in fact are worse and more unforgiving, people won't even read a single sentence there; also if my problems have nothing to do with my looks then relying on a looksmaxxing site is useless to me, personally.
As to failed normie, I'm going to link you to
https://incels.wiki/w/"It%27s_the_patriarchy", specifically the line on blank slates.
What I was really hoping for on here was that people recognized the blank slate fallacy, people do have predispositions to things, anything from discrimination to mental instability. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not there. I get your mentality because it comes natural to most people, actually you'd think it would come more naturally to someone like me than anyone but it's the opposite, I'm kind of forced to look beyond looks.
It really disappoints me, but not surprises me, that people on this site as all the others I have tried, see mental illness as fake, just like normies outside in normal society. It annoys me because it shows that inceldom really is not a way of thinking but just a trait like being left-handed or right-handed. People here have the same attitudes that what's in your head is your own bullshit and your own fault and I don't know why I thought they wouldn't think that way.
Thing is, if you can understand why looks matter and are unchangeable, you should be able to understand why being fucked in the head does as well. It's the same thing: people assume you have control over things you don't, said things don't matter, or that you deserve it somehow or are doing something wrong. It's just that one is bright as day and the other is not. People bullshit about looks being irrelevant or changeable, but they actually believe those things about anything on the inside like metabolism, muscle growth, heart strength, and what's in your head. Because they don't see a reminder of why they're lying when they look at that - there's nothing to see except someone playing victim and lying.
About girls approaching me, I have a newsflash for you and most people here who certainly agree with your perspective: it didn't do shit. I couldn't do the redpill's handbook then, and I can't now either. Because those things like "confidence" and "dark triad" are also inborn. That's an ugly truth too. And if a few girls "approached" me, because they didn't, a glance is not an approach and won't become one, it doesn't change the rest of the girls or the rest of the guys.
I still got called ugly in those times, believe it or not. I can't rate myself for shit and at some point I don't care because if that's a problem, even the main one, it's not the only one and it's not the one I care about or want to see social change and reform for. Am I fake then? If changing shit I could change brought me up by a point on the 10-point scale, then was I faking? I don't know. I really don't. I still wasn't as high up as you think, but I know I wasn't as low as I am now. If I trusted people here more, and if this site allowed it, I would send rate pictures but nobody would believe me - some would vote ugly and some would vote good looking and nobody would get anything out of it.
About me contradicting myself: yeah, I do that a lot. I don't know why either, and I don't notice it unless someone points it out to me. For all the words I write, for as much as I try to be honest and not hiding things, I still lie, and I still change my mind like a fidget spinner. I'm like 20 dude, I'm not exactly sure what I believe in, not yet, anyway.
And if I'm contradicting myself, what the fuck is this forum doing then? Looks can't be changed or compensated for but mental shit can? Why?? What's the difference? Looks matter way more, I'll give you that 100%, but they are **necessary but not sufficient**. You need looks, at least my looks apparently, but it's not enough. If you're shit with people, especially if you're shit without trying to be shit, you still get nothing but hate or isolation. I really don't see how that makes me any better off, I don't see how I'm bragging. I don't claim to be worse off by far but I sure as hell am not doing better than anyone here with girls and I doubt I'm doing better than most socially.
Agree, sadly too many autistic Nazis here
Autistic nazis? What are you on about? Autists would agree with me, at least some of them, and being a nazi or even alt-right as an autist is suicide. I chose center for a reason, autists are hated on the left, right, and center. Nobody wants a weirdo.
If you're saying autistic people LARP as normal people or say autism doesn't matter, they're in for a rough time when NTs who are nazis BTFO them over their autism.
Anyway, I've said what I wanted to. Like the 4chan post, "If you have to try, it's over".
