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Discussion Lord of Negros & House of the Woke ?

JayGoptri

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Well ladies and gentlemen, the next great American Flop is fast approach. Looking at the trailers, and reviews, I am already disappointed but maybe there is a small hope that that somehow, they can recreate the pattern which all good literature needs to garner the feelings that religious communities tend to produce in people. The first serious got this formula right for about roughly 4-5 seasons. They gave us the impression they were going to eventually EXPLAIN the Gods to us. But of course, everyone should now be able to say George Martin is not as good of a writer as "fantasy Normies" though, rather he is a confused contradictory paperweight who has no answers to the questions he raised.

It was very obvious that with Disney, Lord of the Rings was going to have everything from homosexual elves to negro dwarfs, but maybe some of us were so naieve that we held out hope for HBO' Miguel Sapochnik, Terrance Winter and Tim Van Patton to hold out and resist. After all these directors should be the ones brought on as they try to stick with old school tropes and in the process make more "based" content than their new age contemporaries.

So my question for discussion is, in this Woke climate, is there any way, even by mistake that a writer or TV series can produce something meaningful again? Any thoughts are welcome. Whether you are fans or not.


Anyway, Nerdortic and a bunch of others have explained the deets.


View: https://youtu.be/SIoeO47S1IM
 
I thkught you were talking about lord of the flies
 
game of thrones was always a show about faggots for faggots
 
I thkught you were talking about lord of the flies
Nope. Lord of the Rings, now complete with black elves and dwarfs.

In fact now it's the same with Star Wars and Marvel. It's boring because the pattern of decent story telling doesn't follow good triangles LIKE Lord of the Flies (for one example).
 
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game of thrones was always a show about faggots for faggots
Wrong. Neither Martin nor the showrunners allowed woke stuff to be front and center in the early days. It's only now that the country's elites are split between Cuckservatives masturbation and Woke Leftist Masturbation that all studios decide "Woke". For now.
 
I usually love fantasy but anything with sex scenes is suicide fuel for me, so I have never watched or read Game of Thrones. I am a massive fan of Lord of the Rings and Tolkein's Legendarium though, no fucking and absolutely bare minimum foid characters. I am nervous about the new Lord of the Rings series on Amazon though. On the one hand I do want to see the second age and how they build the world with their massive budget, I do not want to see the woke shit with sheboon dwarves :feelsohgod:.

I also really like Star Wars, the Sith are cool as fuck. Disney have ruined it with their woke trilogy.
 
I usually love fantasy but anything with sex scenes is suicide fuel for me, so I have never watched or read Game of Thrones.
I guess I can relate. But since I had escorts I was able to stomach it. Even otherwise, it wasn't done cringe style. But in the beginning and for a while the series showed so much promise. The avenues they could have taken, but instead chose to take killed it.
I am a massive fan of Lord of the Rings and Tolkein's Legendarium though,
I am as well. I know so much about his Legendarium I could write a small book. LoTR was sacred to me. Now Disney is going to take even that away and tarnish all the previous continuities.
no fucking and absolutely bare minimum foid characters. I am nervous about the new Lord of the Rings series on Amazon though. On the one hand I do want to see the second age and how they build the world with their massive budget, I do not want to see the woke shit with sheboon dwarves :feelsohgod:.
I know, I know brocel. I was looking forward to it. But if you watch the reviews and look at the trailers, so fucking sad isn't it? Have you see? Ruined because CUCKED :bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:
I also really like Star Wars, the Sith are cool as fuck. Disney have ruined it with their woke trilogy.
Yes SAME EXACT THING happened and I was like "No way, HBO/Martin won't let that happen to GoT Prequel and LoTR prequel, Christopher Tolkien would hav objected. But both Martin & Tolkien jr. must be cucked as hell and the backlash is being suppressed by Disney big time. :feelsautistic:
 
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They want to pander to the twitter crowd so badly, but since they only really care about “muh representation” rather than the story and characters a lot of these projects fail. Like people wouldn’t have as much of a problem if the shit wasn’t so forced
 
But if you watch the reviews and look at the trailers, so fucking sad isn't it? Have you see?
I am hoping with the trailers and reviews they are overplaying the woke shit for marketing purposes. Like they are over emphasising nigger elves and warrior Galadriel to appease the woke mob but the story stays to the spirit of Tolkein but I do not have hope. It seems almost certain that Galadriel will be some type of warrior princess. It's a bit sad, I used to fap to Cate Balnchett Galadriel back in the day.
 
They want to pander to the twitter crowd so badly, but since they only really care about “muh representation” rather than the story and characters a lot of these projects fail. Like people wouldn’t have as much of a problem if the shit wasn’t so forced
Exactly. There are underground directors like the ones I mentioned in OP that (if given the leeway) could just make a normal show. And if the writing is good, then it will sell. But for some reason these morons think Twitter and woke make them money, and they don't realize that crowd is useless and draining them of the entire franchise. But they don't care, they found the model to recoup their losses.

They just use the Title and then fill it with whatever they want and 1/3 productions grosses Disney tint-tot family money and they are happy.
 
I am hoping with the trailers and reviews they are overplaying the woke shit for marketing purposes. Like they are over emphasising nigger elves and warrior Galadriel to appease the woke mob but the story stays to the spirit of Tolkein but I do not have hope. It seems almost certain that Galadriel will be some type of warrior princess. It's a bit sad,
I was hoping the same. But I fear the reviews accurate. For GoT and the upcoming LTOR on Disney
I used to fap to Cate Balnchett Galadriel back in the day.
She was a sexy foid in the classic sense, yes.
 
I also really like Star Wars, the Sith are cool as fuck. Disney have ruined it with their woke trilogy.
Star Wars didn't really become more woke than it already was. It has humanoid aliens living with humans, making all sorts of mutts together. The sequels just have shit and inconsistent writing. Jabba was a based truecel with sexy foid slaves :smonk:
 
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Every show nowadays has to be about a strong dyke woman who is a good ruler and men are dumb and evil also bad ruler it's like they are conditioning us for a future of celibacy and women fucking each other mainly and using chads for their seeds while the rest of the men coom to porn and pay taxes, I am pretty that whoever ruling the world nowadays is a dyke Jewish foid
 
Star Wars didn't really become more woke than it already was. It has humanoid aliens living with humans, making all sorts of mutts together. The sequels just have shit and inconsistent writing. Jabba was a based truecel with sexy foid slaves :smonk:
Hmm. Well, I don't think that makes it "woke". The aliens and humans didn't really interbreed, and if they did, how is that woke? I'm more talking about the elevation of the female to goddess status and the unnatural role of women as the leaders. I do think Star Wars was old school feminist-woke but not the new stuff. The events still happen as expected. One dude becomes a monk (Jedi) the other does what he wants as a space gangster.

The newer Star Wars is unbelievable woke with black and female leads being the main thing.

The best example we have of wokeness distorting the credit field of good writing is with Tolkienian works being smashed to pieces.

Peter Jackson stayed (more or less) true to Tolkienian philosophy. The new comers are going to obliterate any chances of us seeing a good product. :cryfeels:
 
Hmm. Well, I don't think that makes it "woke". The aliens and humans didn't really interbreed, and if they did, how is that woke? I'm more talking about the elevation of the female to goddess status and the unnatural role of women as the leaders. I do think Star Wars was old school feminist-woke but not the new stuff. The events still happen as expected. One dude becomes a monk (Jedi) the other does what he wants as a space gangster.
They did breed with eachother, there are hybrids of human and Twilek in canon. Anyways, you are probably right, making a female jedi lead and black co-lead at the same time really seems like a woke move. There were black characters like Lando or Mace Windu before but it didn't feel as forced or made to appeal to wokeness.
 
They did breed with eachother, there are hybrids of human and Twilek in canon. Anyways, you are probably right, making a female jedi lead and black co-lead at the same time really seems like a woke move. There were black characters like Lando or Mace Windu before but it didn't feel as forced or made to appeal to wokeness.
Yeah true.

Looking at the movies from the past, things hadn't gotten so shallow yet in terms of how basic dialogue was executed between characters/actors etc.

You could watch productions like The Ghostbusters or even the original Star Wars and feel like "normal" interactions between characters weren't forced. They were just more.. fluid. Even in frivolous comedies or action movies, the things they were trying to do were reasonable. Here is an example:


View: https://youtu.be/hOH1BSIHysg


When you watch these scenes, even in an otherwise corny ridiculous Sci-Fi comedy, it just works.

Here they achieve it again:


View: https://youtu.be/t1gkRAWvxOs

Gone are those days. Everything has just either surface level woke crap, or accompanied by overt Chad/Stacy worship.

In our current climate even mediocre, barely acceptable story telling or dialogue can not be accomplished.
 
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I have just seen the first 2 episodes. And surprisingly, aside from the fact that House Valeryon is comprised of a bunch of black family members, so far the show isn't horrible. I plan to do a longer post once it hits the half way point or shortly after.
 
rangz of power
I think LOTR will be the winner for complete ruining of an epic written work. It's going to be so tragic. HOTD at least they are making an attempt to avoid overt wokeness.

Then again Miguel Sapochnik talking in an interview was pathetic, when he spoke about the "women's body" scene from Episode 1
 
Are you pleasantly surprised by HOTD? So far I mean...
Nah, I haven't watched it. I didn't watch Game of Thrones either. Sex scenes and nudity in non-porn things are suicide fuel for me. I'm going to watch Rings of Power too. I know it's going to be woke but I am looking forward to seeing how Numenor looked in particular.
 
Game of Thrones was so good until season 4. Season 5 was kinda bad then season 6 was so good even if it was not based on the books anymore. Season 7 and 8 were awful and the ending one of the worst I've ever seen.
 
You are absolutely correct. I plan on doing a much longer post explaining it and tieing it to Inceldom. When the time is right. But honestly, I'm slightly surprised by House of the Dragon so far. It's not god awful, which is what I expected in today's time. But let's see, there is still plenty of episodes left for from them to fuck it up.
 
Niggers are disgusting and don’t belong in tv, fuck Disney, fuck marvel, fuck Star Wars, fuck Sony.
 
You are absolutely correct. I plan on doing a much longer post explaining it and tieing it to Inceldom. When the time is right. But honestly, I'm slightly surprised by House of the Dragon so far. It's not god awful, which is what I expected in today's
Nah, I haven't watched it. I didn't watch Game of Thrones either. Sex scenes and nudity in non-porn things are suicide fuel for me.
There are hardly any long or involved sex scenes so far. But most of them are not an issue taken in conjunction with the rest of the show.
I'm going to watch Rings of Power too. I know it's going to be woke but I am looking forward to seeing how Numenor looked in particular.
You should if you can stomach HOTD as it is not so bad. I will also be watching "Rangz" to see the locations mostly. The content will be high level faggotry and "first time for my nigga" awards as all the cast members are major idiots.
 
Niggers are disgusting and don’t belong in tv, fuck Disney, fuck marvel, fuck Star Wars, fuck Sony.
Fuck HBO also. They fell for the bullshit and started allowing content which meets woke standards, which means it isn't quality content. I don't mind them (blacks) when they are in roles which suite them. But when they are just being thrown in and suck at acting for the appropriate role, I am very put off by it.
 
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I thkught you were talking about lord of the flies
Sām hear! Lol! ;bbbbbbzzzzzzt!

Yer TV is coloured!

While I do recognize that blacks and whites can be friends IRL, it's just weird to see it on TV.

Most blacks on TV are in roles of power or leadership or high intelligence (hackers;7)

What I've noticed lately, especially via the Amazon show "the boys" (anti cape/ "supes" show) are completely racially integrated groups that work together. With ofc, either a nigger or a female "boss."

The hated thing, is nations. For example: not the races or sexualitys are shit on, but the nation of origin. Especially white western nations. French, English, and the various current mena enemies.
 
Sām hear! Lol! ;bbbbbbzzzzzzt!


Yer TV is coloured!
:feelskek:
While I do recognize that blacks and whites can be friends IRL, it's just weird to see it on TV.
It's fine if they are "friends" in a BELIEVBLE context. Like for example, Det. Lester Freeman & Det. Jimmy McNaughlty in The Wire. But not when it's bastardizing of J.R.R Tolkien's work. Not when it's a nigger elf who jumps in slow motion looking badass to hip music shooting an arrow which always hits its target.
Most blacks on TV are in roles of power or leadership or high intelligence (hackers;7)

What I've noticed lately, especially via the Amazon show "the boys" (anti cape/ "supes" show) are completely racially integrated groups that work together. With ofc, either a nigger or a female "boss."
Of course, they have altered mythology to fit their own "Universal Truth". They have manipulated the lore and source material to give people the illusion of a "Modern Global Fantasy"

I'm really fucking disappointed (but not surprised) at George Martin's recent comments. He doesn't understand shit, or he's riding the woke wave too. He's a bitch for creating a mid-evil high fantasy with mostly white characters and then not standing by his own work and his own IP. What'a CUCK. Only cuckoldry can do this to a man ! .
 
Lotr wasn't as bad as I thought it would be so far, I enjoyed it more than house of the dragon.
 
Lotr wasn't as bad as I thought it would be so far, I enjoyed it more than house of the dragon.
Really? That's surprising, though I am yet to watch Amazon's butchery of Tokein. I will watch the first two eps of LOTR and let you know what I thought also.
 
Game of Thrones was so good until season 4. Season 5 was kinda bad then season 6 was so good even if it was not based on the books anymore. Season 7 and 8 were awful and the ending one of the worst I've ever seen.
One thing I overlooked:

You think Season 6 was "so good"? Are you kidding me? With the total nonsense going on involving Jon Chad's resurrection? The Red Women all of a sudden acting like a fucking mental patient, losing all he confidence? The Jet Pack-like travel from location to location? Countless other issues to many to name?

Basically what we see here is something which very few (if any) of the critics have been able to earnestly be truthful about. The fact that it's not just the showrunners' fault, but actually it's George RR Fat Asss fault. He was never able to finish the religious story he started. He put all the correct pieces in, then he acted like he was going to give us (at the very least) some basic answers, as Tolkien did so well for us. Meanwhile, Martin screwed up all of the progress he made by worshipping actors and actresses (plus new age woke nonsense) to the point of bringing his own work to a grinding hault.
 
Lotr wasn't as bad as I thought it would be so far, I enjoyed it more than house of the dragon.

Every show nowadays has to be about a strong dyke woman who is a good ruler and men are dumb and evil also bad ruler it's like they are conditioning us for a future of celibacy and women fucking each other mainly and using chads for their seeds while the rest of the men coom to porn and pay taxes, I am pretty that whoever ruling the world nowadays is a dyke Jewish foid
I am hoping with the trailers and reviews they are overplaying the woke shit for marketing purposes. Like they are over emphasising nigger elves and warrior Galadriel to appease the woke mob but the story stays to the spirit of Tolkein but I do not have hope. It seems almost certain that Galadriel will be some type of warrior princess. It's a bit sad, I used to fap to Cate Balnchett Galadriel back in the day.

So I watched the first episode. Already I see a gish-gallop of tripe. I am a bit of a Tolkien buff and have listened to most of the Unfished Tales and the Silmarillion on audio book, and of course the LOTR books and Peter Jackson's interpretations. First of all, we don't know if Galadriel was in even Doriath or whether she fought at all. She's on some sort of retard quest in "Nigga this is Rangz of Power" for vengeance when she never did much of this sort of fighting, at least not as described by J.R.R. Tolkien. She is somehow also around to see both Morgoth destroy one of the Trees of Valinor and then way later after the Eldar has dispersed into part of Middle Earth she jumps off some boat at exactly the same time as "The Stranger" crash ands into Middle Earth. She wants to avoid sailing into Valinor to save Middle Earth from something Evil, but they never establish any real reason for why she is on this bitchy expedition for Sauron. So she swims to some weird ass raft in the middle of ocean? That's just for starters..

The Negro Elf with a Fresh Prince of Bel Air haircut doesn't exist and if they were going to take liberties with this, they could at least not make him into a dumbass. Of course he's going to represent light-skinned black pretty-boy who gets to fuck that hot white farm foid (Bronwyn) just by staring at her with his weird grey/blue eyes cause hes just that cock-d[UWSL]iesel ?!? What a terrible way to adapt Tolkien's work. The entire Flight of the Noldor and Kinslaying is not depicted at all. For some reason Galadriel is leading an expedition to kill Sauron by following "signs" even though he never left any signs for her to follow, she finds them anyway, bitches at her male troops for no reason like a feminist warrior? Sauron in his disguise as Annatar does meet Galadriel at some point in the 2nd age I believe but, with the timeline they have set up I'm not sure how this will all work out.[/UWSL]

[UWSL]Aside from all that, J.R.R Tolkien's writing is about Good and Evil and he has an impressive ability to use themes from historic Celtic Mythology, Mid-evil themes of dark power, and Christian Theology, and then turn it all into quality a high-Fantasy tale. This show will struggle with those elements because Amazon will choose to discard all of that important writing. [/UWSL]

[UWSL]I could go on..but to hell with it. It's pretty bad. [/UWSL]

[UWSL]The aesthetics and CGI was impressive but, with no believable story to get behind, it's hard to say where this will go. I have more hope for House of the Dragon in terms of effective writing. Though it's still a long shot to hope that they won't find a way to mess it up a few episodes down the line. Actually the title should be "Lord of the Woke and House of Color" because all of a sudden, House Velaryon is comprised of Black albinos? [/UWSL]
 
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[UWSL]Though it's still a long shot to hope that they won't find a way to mess it up a few episodes down the line. Actually the title should be "Lord of the Woke and House of Color" because all of a sudden, House Velaryon is comprised of Black albinos? [/UWSL]
Unfortunately I don't think there's any escape from this these days, it's well and truly embedded its claws into new media. I'm hoping it'll eventually lose steam as people move onto the next big thing to be angry about.
 
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Unfortunately I don't think there's any escape from this these days, it's well and truly embedded its claws into new media. I'm hoping it'll eventually lose steam as people move onto the next big thing to be angry about.
Of course. But it won't lose steam, I don't think. They (creators of this garbage) need to bastardise all good works which aren't wokified yet to prove their virtue to the foids they have in their orbits. They won't give up that easily.

People who are fans and want to enjoy these works the way they were intended to be will not stop being upset about it.
 
So I watched the first episode. Already I see a gish-gallop of tripe. I am a bit of a Tolkien buff and have listened to most of the Unfished Tales and the Silmarillion on audio book, and of course the LOTR books and Peter Jackson's interpretations. First of all, we don't know if Galadriel was in even Doriath or whether she fought at all. She's on some sort of retard quest in "Nigga this is Rangz of Power" for vengeance when she never did much of this sort of fighting, at least not as described by J.R.R. Tolkien. She is somehow also around to see both Morgoth destroy one of the Trees of Valinor and then way later after the Eldar has dispersed into part of Middle Earth she jumps off some boat at exactly the same time as "The Stranger" crash ands into Middle Earth. She wants to avoid sailing into Valinor to save Middle Earth from something Evil, but they never establish any real reason for why she is on this bitchy expedition for Sauron. So she swims to some weird ass raft in the middle of ocean? That's just for starters..

The Negro Elf with a Fresh Prince of Bel Air haircut doesn't exist and if they were going to take liberties with this, they could at least not make him into a dumbass. Of course he's going to represent light-skinned black pretty-boy who gets to fuck that hot white farm foid (Bronwyn) just by staring at her with his weird grey/blue eyes cause hes just that cock-d[UWSL]iesel ?!? What a terrible way to adapt Tolkien's work. The entire Flight of the Noldor and Kinslaying is not depicted at all. For some reason Galadriel is leading an expedition to kill Sauron by following "signs" even though he never left any signs for her to follow, she finds them anyway, bitches at her male troops for no reason like a feminist warrior? Sauron in his disguise as Annatar does meet Galadriel at some point in the 2nd age I believe but, with the timeline they have set up I'm not sure how this will all work out.[/UWSL]

[UWSL]Aside from all that, J.R.R Tolkien's writing is about Good and Evil and he has an impressive ability to use themes from historic Celtic Mythology, Mid-evil themes of dark power, and Christian Theology, and then turn it all into quality a high-Fantasy tale. This show will struggle with those elements because Amazon will choose to discard all of that important writing. [/UWSL]

[UWSL]I could go on..but to hell with it. It's pretty bad. [/UWSL]

[UWSL]The aesthetics and CGI was impressive but, with no believable story to get behind, it's hard to say where this will go. I have more hope for House of the Dragon in terms of effective writing. Though it's still a long shot to hope that they won't find a way to mess it up a few episodes down the line. Actually the title should be "Lord of the Woke and House of Color" because all of a sudden, House Velaryon is comprised of Black albinos? [/UWSL]
I also watched it but from my understanding they don’t have the rights to The Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales despite Bezos having unlimited money so they couldn’t put in shit like the kinslaying, I think that would be hard to explain for the casual as well.

From what I could gather Galadriel’s quest to kill Sauron is solely because he killed her brother. It’s a big deviation from the lore.

I also didn’t like the story with the nigger elf and Persian whore or the story with the nigger hobbits and what looks like Gandalf coming via asteroid, Gandalf came to Middle Earth in the third age.

What I liked most were the visuals. Valinor, Lindon and Khazad Dum looked cool as fuck
 
I also watched it but from my understanding they don’t have the rights to The Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales despite Bezos having unlimited money.
Well, I'm not sure to what extent the Tolkien estate is to blame, but knowing the times we live in, I suspect there are multiple sides at fault
so they couldn’t put in shit like the kinslaying, I think that would be hard to explain for the casual as well.
Yeah but I do believe the Kinslaying is referenced in various places outside the Silmarillion. Tolkien talked about not creating a middle Earth but instead sort of "excavating" Middle Earth to find out more about its history. In this sense the showrunners have some room for interpretation, however that room could have taken any direction except a woke one if they follow the lore and themes Tolkien himself stuck by.
From what I could gather Galadriel’s quest to kill Sauron is solely because he killed her brother. It’s a big deviation from the lore.
Yes. She is also constantly INSULTING Lord Elrond as though he's some sort f misogynist wanting to hold her back being a fiery super bitch. Which he should be, in fact the way Galadriel is portrayed in this Amazon junk means she should be thrown out of the Elvs and stripped of all her powers somehow.
I also didn’t like the story with the nigger elf and Persian whore or the story with the nigger hobbits and what looks like Gandalf coming via asteroid, Gandalf came to Middle Earth in the third age.
It's "The Stranger" for now, but probably a man of Istari origin, maybe Gandalf. The nigger elf will fuck the super hot Persian foid by looking at her at some point a few episodes later and dropping his pants and saying "look at my European facial features and nigger dick" and then she will take a pounding from him EVEN if it's not important to the story arcs.
What I liked most were the visuals. Valinor, Lindon and Khazad Dum looked cool as fuck
Yes some looked nice. Valinor and Khazad Dum they did pull of well. For the amount of money they spent they better keep that feature going.
 
Final thought on House of The Dragon:


After seeing the 3rd episode it's clear what the shows main woke-ass message is: Mixed Race Chad-Tyrone babies :panties:
 
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4 some reason amazon emailed me about this garbage even though I only used prime for no shipping. it flopped hard
 
4 some reason amazon emailed me about this garbage even though I only used prime for no shipping. it flopped hard
Mixed-Race Tyrone wins. That's what House of the Dragon is really about. Mixed Race light skin Tyrone Chad (Laenor Valaryon) supplants White Chad (Daemon Targaryen) as the official God of Western culture and gets Rhenyra. Now HBO is happy and mixed race children of white Chad and black Chad are the ultimate Hero Gods! Of course Daemon will also marry Leana Valaryon and produce mixed race babies too. So the theme is mixed race hotties for everyone.
 
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