most incels dont hate women, they just dont understand them

[wewuzaryansnshit]

I hate women, speak for yourself

i’m sure you do

 

[Justdone]

i’m sure you do

I don’t disagree with you or agree with ya @wewuzaryansnshit because you don’t believe in any side changing that and that’s like not a condensing normie way but you don’t seem like the coming up solution type so most will hate this post for that

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

this isnt a respectful thread either, theres no challenging my view you just restate what you believe as dogma

Well, people on this site have a lot of shit experiences with infiltrators who clearly aren't arguing in good faith, so even though I have to say that you genuinely don't seem to be one and I can kinda get where your ideas, however flawed they are, are coming from, I can't blame the userbase here for not having patience for what they see as another preaching outsider purposefully misunderstanding them and giving them shitty advice they've heard a million times.

most users here are normal people with bad life situations

Yup, and that bad life situation is called being ugly.

yes. it doesnt excite or create interest inv you when in should. when a woman talks to you a normal hot blooded man is interested and wants to continue talking with her. your mind wanders because it is diseased, and you know you are in the right place when you come on this website.

see your mind first goes to the conclusion that it is useless to interact if the promise of sex isn’t there. this is the first sign of incel conditioning. you think about whether or not talking to a girl will yield you sex and if the answer is no, why bother? this is classic non nt conditioning and has little to nothing to do with your looks

That's a bit of an interesting perspective. I have no idea why there should be anything special prompting me to engage in conversations with women even if we have nothing in common. I can only speak for myself, but, just as in my interactions with men, if I find women interesting to talk to and feel like we actually have some common interests or something else to talk about, I'll talk with them for sure, just as I do with men, but I'm not about to force a fruitless interaction with someone I have nothing to talk about, regardless of their gender.

For example, in both my Uni and at my part-time job, I obviously interacted with both men and women, but I obviously found it much easier to talk with my coursemates who were the same age as me than my coworkers who were decades older.

To tie this up, I believe that's similar to how most of the other guys on this site interact with other people. Sure, guys here will post a lot of edgy stuff, but IRL, almost no one is committing social suicides on the regular by saying the stuff they write here in public, and they act the same as other people.

However, since our problems are simply that we are short, ugly, hairy, etc., those normal interactions never become anything else, while for more attractive guys, it leads into more with the women around them. To use your own words, your mind can drive you to talk to women however much it wants, and I'll admit that the prospect of interacting with attractive women has so far prompted me to break out of my shell more often than the prospect of talking with other guys, but if your looks aren't making her want to get to know you more, it'll never become anything than just that. Talking.

yeah man. the opposite gender has single handedly made you the person you are. despite the fact that you have probably never had a meaningful interaction with one in your ENTIRE life.

Why not? I find it hard to believe that most of the guys haven't regularly, meaningfully interacted with women almost regularly in school, Uni, at work, outside, etc. There's nothing special about talking with women, just as there's nothing special about talking to men. They're just people like you, lol. It just never leads to anything else than more talking if you aren't attractive enough for her to want to go further than just talking.

 

[andinocel]

being pleasant and polite doesn’t mean anything. pleasant and polite gets you equal respect but it doesn’t get you friendship nor anything more than that. you have the common excuse of “but i am nice to women why don’t they like me?”. just “being nice” means nothing. you cannot connect to them or anything in their lives. to have a real connection with a woman means you can understand and connect to what she says without faking your feelings or lying to yourself.

Typical cherry picker.

I never implied "but I am nice to women why don't they like me?"..... I'm repeating back the advice a lot of people tell incels, because everyone seems to think incels are all disagreeable, argumentative, cheetoh-ingesting, basement-dwellers, and I'm far from that. I'm a productive member of society believe it or not. I also know damn well that just being nice won't get me anything. When I wrote that "I'm pleasant and polite in public", I meant that I do not behave the way people at IncelTear think incels behave
I have a hard time connecting with women because I find them insincere and hypocritical as fuck. Moreover, if I was a gentleman, I was "being sexist". If I treated them like a regular person, I was "being rude". They are impossible to understand. My STEM degree and the languages I learned were a lot easier than understanding how women think.

I have done all of the advice thrown at me, but to no avail, and by process of elimination, the only explanation is looks and height. I KNOW I'm ugly --- I was bullied for it all my life, but forgot it when I reached my hopeful and positive late teens and early 20's; it took years of trying in the field for me to finally get it that I'm genetically fucked. I have been objectively rated as well, so there's that.
If you refuse to believe me, its on you

 

[Robb97]

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Typical cherry picker.

I never implied "but I am nice to women why don't they like me?"..... I'm repeating back the advice a lot of people tell incels, because everyone seems to think incels are all disagreeable, argumentative, cheetoh-ingesting, basement-dwellers, and I'm far from that. I'm a productive member of society believe it or not. I also know damn well that just being nice won't get me anything. When I wrote that "I'm pleasant and polite in public", I meant that I do not behave the way people at IncelTear think incels behave
I have a hard time connecting with women because I find them insincere and hypocritical as fuck. Moreover, if I was a gentleman, I was "being sexist". If I treated them like a regular person, I was "being rude". They are impossible to understand. My STEM degree and the languages I learned were a lot easier than understanding how women think.

I have done all of the advice thrown at me, but to no avail, and by process of elimination, the only explanation is looks and height. I KNOW I'm ugly --- I was bullied for it all my life, but forgot it when I reached my hopeful and positive late teens and early 20's; it took years of trying in the field for me to finally get it that I'm genetically fucked. I have been objectively rated as well, so there's that.
If you refuse to believe me, its on you

Beautifully said.

 

[iRespectWoman]

One of my friends who has had a girlfriend since high school for years has admitted to me that even he doesn't understand them. That they are complicated and the basis of pulling them is akin to an evolutionary standpoint of monkeys.

Makes sense tbh.

 

[subhuman999]

users here love to proclaim how much they "hate" women and how much of a self-proclaimed misogynist they are. likewise, IT likes to point out so called "misogyny" in the comments and ideas posted on this forum to justify why the majority of this forum is a thread to society.

what both the incels and their opposition FAIL to realize is that they are both wrong about what most incels are. incels are neither misogynistic nor do they really hate women. i have met a fair number of incels and none of them meet the standard of being misogynistic. most people have 0 idea what misogyny even is, its not saying idiotic shit like "hahaha woman bad" or even more extreme stuff like what is said here, but instead to have a deep seated self-hatred of women that is cultivated by some societal construct.

almost every "incel" type guy in real life when presented with talking to a woman behaves in 1 of two ways. either they avoid the woman entirely out of fear of rejection or high tier social anxiety, or they talk to the girl but are anxious, sweaty, nervous, and not at all who they present themselves online to be. none of you here, even the most so called misogynistic users here are what the term actually entails, and you should not strive to be either. having the seeds of misogynistic thought is not something you should be proud of having, the same as having an incel life, it should ultimately be something you should move away from to live a normal life.

i believe the "hatred" of women that is bred on this website instead to be a result of not truly understanding women. as much as people here like to cope about this it is absolutely false to categorize all women into one group and make negative generalizations across the board about all of them. you are lying to yourself if you dont believe classy, intelligent, polite women exist just as the other archeotypes do. women are people with thoughts and interests, goals, dreams, aspirations just as you are. i am not here to debate if your environment caused your inceldom, or your genetics (read my other posts for thoughts) but whatever the situation may be the fact is that you have ended up a virgin as an adult male. you try to cope with what you know evidently to be a screw up of your development, and project that on the personhood of the thing you desire to have. you equate what you have been "denied" of as nothing more than an object preprogrammed to systemically reject you (sub8 theory, female hypergamy) all of which are concepts taken to the extreme on this website. you would opt to believe this narrative rather than understanding the thruth that most women did not consciously reject you, rather, you were never in the vicinity of any that would have changed your development as it is. that they instead devoted their time, effort, and human connection to other men besides yourself. it is so much easier to convince yourselves that they are merely animals rather than to accept the harsh reality.

do not fool yourselves. you are not systemically oppressed, nor have you even "raged against the machine" so to speak against those who have kept you down. you are nothing but an angry mentally stunted man who instead of believing what is self-evident, chooses to accept what a website tells him.

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

thx for the bump

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

@subhuman999

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

One of my friends who has had a girlfriend since high school for years has admitted to me that even he doesn't understand them. That they are complicated and the basis of pulling them is akin to an evolutionary standpoint of monkeys.

Makes sense tbh.

so if a normie like him doesn’t fully understand women, and he understands what the right things to say are to get them, what makes you think you can?

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

have a hard time connecting with women because I find them insincere and hypocritical as fuck. Moreover

exactly. you find them insincere and hypocritical as fuck because you have a non NT plagued mind. this is my point exactly, you have not developed alongside women so you are naturally repelled by them

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

To tie this up, I believe that's similar to how most of the other guys on this site interact with other people. Sure, guys here will post a lot of edgy stuff, but IRL, almost no one is committing social suicides on the regular by saying the stuff they write here in public, and they act the same as other people.

of course they dont. unless you are severely autistic and have 0 understanding of social cues (genetic autism) you will never repeat anything here. this does not excuse the fact that your mind has been polluted with the disease of non NT thought that is bred here, from men in isolation. how can you possibly be a normie or enjoy social situations with a combination of incel-tier ideas swirling in your head?

 

[Prince of Hatred]

It is true, I don't hate only women. I hate men and women. I divide society between incels and apes.

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

It is true, I don't hate only women. I hate men and women. I divide society between incels and apes.

there is is incels, and the. far far away in the other place is everyone else

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

how can you possibly be a normie or enjoy social situations with a combination of incel-tier ideas swirling in your head?

Because they are fun. I have no idea why you think that accurately rating one's (un)attractiveness would have any effect on their enjoyment of stuff like getting wasted at a party (if they get there) and so on. Inceldom is about being unattractive because of your shit genes, understanding that and being aware of the effects it has on your life, including being a virgin, nothing else. If anything, it's better to accept your unattractiveness than delude yourself into thinking that you are attractive, as most unattractive people seem to be doing, and then losing your mind over trying to figure out what you are "doing wrong" (as in, why are you not being treated as the attractive person you believe yourself to be.)

 

[wewuzaryansnshit]

Inceldom is about being unattractive because of your shit genes, understanding that and being aware of the effects it has on your life, including being a virgin, nothing else

just lol @ you if you think your life situation is solely based on how much bone you have in your face

 

[Drakul]

just lol @ you if you think your life situation is solely based on how much bone you have in your face

But the bones warped the mind. Hating human nature is a consequence of facial deformity where since early teenhood every attempt at socialising was met with scorn and coldness until with years the divergence became so big that now you can't love women because their essence grew in harmony with normal boys and since they love normal men, while you can't relate to them, in a sense loving women would feel to you as indirectly loving men which feels cucked and gay. More than women themselves we hate that women like (normal) men. We're literally the snake in Eden.

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

just lol @ you if you think your life situation is solely based on how much bone you have in your face

Maybe not completely, but definitely to a very large part. Your looks are what gives people the first impression of you, and if they are shit, well, so is that. After that, everything you say or do is filtered through the lens of you being an unattractive guy no one wants to spend much time or socialize much with. Sure, you can still get yourself to social events and so on, as I myself talked about, and have fun there, which I'd only encourage, but after all is said and done, you're still only an unattractive guy who's not bringing any chick home.

But the bones warped the mind. Hating human nature is a consequence of facial deformity where since early teenhood every attempt at socialising was met with scorn and coldness until with years the divergence became so big that now you can't love women because their essence grew in harmony with normal boys and since they love normal men, while you can't relate to them, in a sense loving women would feel to you as indirectly loving men which feels cucked and gay. More than women themselves we hate that women like (normal) men. We're literally the snake in Eden.

 

[deadmanwalking124]

what both the incels and their opposition FAIL to realize is that they are both wrong about what most incels are. incels are neither misogynistic nor do they really hate women. i have met a fair number of incels and none of them meet the standard of being misogynistic.

What's your particular standard of "misogynistic?"

almost every "incel" type guy in real life when presented with talking to a woman behaves in 1 of two ways. either they avoid the woman entirely out of fear of rejection or high tier social anxiety, or they talk to the girl but are anxious, sweaty, nervous, and not at all who they present themselves online to be.

In real life I treat women like everyone else and plan to for the foreseeable future. This used to be because I legitimately saw them as my equal, and it's currently because it would be autistic and retarded to go around screaming at them, calling them foids, or hitting them, all of which would/could hinder my freedom and ability to maneuver in society. You can put that "almost" in front of the sentence as a scapegoat word to try to hide your intentions of trying to discredit us, but the generalization gave it away.

none of you here, even the most so called misogynistic users here are what the term actually entails, and you should not strive to be either. having the seeds of misogynistic thought is not something you should be proud of having, the same as having an incel life, it should ultimately be something you should move away from to live a normal life.

I don't know about anyone else here but I no longer care about "normal." "Normal" escaped my life and I no longer care to catch it. Dangling the carrot of normalcy in front of a youngercel's face might work but I'm almost 30.

i believe the "hatred" of women that is bred on this website instead to be a result of not truly understanding women. as much as people here like to cope about this it is absolutely false to categorize all women into one group and make negative generalizations across the board about all of them. you are lying to yourself if you dont believe classy, intelligent, polite women exist just as the other archeotypes do. women are people with thoughts and interests, goals, dreams, aspirations just as you are.

Women shouldn't be generalized, but incels should. JFL.

i am not here to debate if your environment caused your inceldom, or your genetics (read my other posts for thoughts) but whatever the situation may be the fact is that you have ended up a virgin as an adult male. you try to cope with what you know evidently to be a screw up of your development, and project that on the personhood of the thing you desire to have.

It's not my fault for being ugly, nor is it the fault of the women who rejected me for being biologically/socially inclined to not involve themselves with an ugly man. Doesn't make my natural resulting resentment any less valid.

you equate what you have been "denied" of as nothing more than an object preprogrammed to systemically reject you (sub8 theory, female hypergamy) all of which are concepts taken to the extreme on this website. you would opt to believe this narrative rather than understanding the thruth that most women did not consciously reject you, rather, you were never in the vicinity of any that would have changed your development as it is. that they instead devoted their time, effort, and human connection to other men besides yourself. it is so much easier to convince yourselves that they are merely animals rather than to accept the harsh reality.

"Not every woman that's rejected you did so because you're ugly and they're programmed to not like ugly men, they did it because they chose to not reject other people." What kind of faggotry did I just read.

do not fool yourselves. you are not systemically oppressed,

Never said that, brainlet

nor have you even "raged against the machine" so to speak against those who have kept you down

Never said that either, retard

you are nothing but an angry mentally stunted man who instead of believing what is self-evident, chooses to accept what a website tells him.

Yeah yeah yeah, 20-something years of experiences don't point to a pattern. Keep yourself safe.

 

[Pillow City Pimp]

You are basicly K9Otaku wannabe but dumber

 

[John Kelly]

I Hate Women but still i want to have Sex with them

 

[zionpill]

YWNBARW

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

users here love to proclaim how much they "hate" women and how much of a self-proclaimed misogynist they are. likewise, IT likes to point out so called "misogyny" in the comments and ideas posted on this forum to justify why the majority of this forum is a thread to society.

what both the incels and their opposition FAIL to realize is that they are both wrong about what most incels are. incels are neither misogynistic nor do they really hate women. i have met a fair number of incels and none of them meet the standard of being misogynistic. most people have 0 idea what misogyny even is, its not saying idiotic shit like "hahaha woman bad" or even more extreme stuff like what is said here, but instead to have a deep seated self-hatred of women that is cultivated by some societal construct.

almost every "incel" type guy in real life when presented with talking to a woman behaves in 1 of two ways. either they avoid the woman entirely out of fear of rejection or high tier social anxiety, or they talk to the girl but are anxious, sweaty, nervous, and not at all who they present themselves online to be. none of you here, even the most so called misogynistic users here are what the term actually entails, and you should not strive to be either. having the seeds of misogynistic thought is not something you should be proud of having, the same as having an incel life, it should ultimately be something you should move away from to live a normal life.

i believe the "hatred" of women that is bred on this website instead to be a result of not truly understanding women. as much as people here like to cope about this it is absolutely false to categorize all women into one group and make negative generalizations across the board about all of them. you are lying to yourself if you dont believe classy, intelligent, polite women exist just as the other archeotypes do. women are people with thoughts and interests, goals, dreams, aspirations just as you are. i am not here to debate if your environment caused your inceldom, or your genetics (read my other posts for thoughts) but whatever the situation may be the fact is that you have ended up a virgin as an adult male. you try to cope with what you know evidently to be a screw up of your development, and project that on the personhood of the thing you desire to have. you equate what you have been "denied" of as nothing more than an object preprogrammed to systemically reject you (sub8 theory, female hypergamy) all of which are concepts taken to the extreme on this website. you would opt to believe this narrative rather than understanding the thruth that most women did not consciously reject you, rather, you were never in the vicinity of any that would have changed your development as it is. that they instead devoted their time, effort, and human connection to other men besides yourself. it is so much easier to convince yourselves that they are merely animals rather than to accept the harsh reality.

do not fool yourselves. you are not systemically oppressed, nor have you even "raged against the machine" so to speak against those who have kept you down. you are nothing but an angry mentally stunted man who instead of believing what is self-evident, chooses to accept what a website tells him.

No. Female nature plus emancipation is antithetical to monogamy with nice decent men. I loathe femoids. Ban this shit tier faggot

 

[JudeoBiden]

I understand women, and that's why I hate them.

 

[incelpardo99]

le woman nature is so evil…. every woman i encounter is mean to me oh no whatevet shall i do!

most people have 0 interest or care in you. no one hates you unless your actions on a societal scale of right and wrong have been “wrong”. even if you are very ugly at most people will just avoid you or they may throw a couple comments but no one truly hates you. i agree that the nature of humans themselves is evil, but saying that there’s no such thing as a good woman is lying to yourself.

Tru, but the autists here don't get it, they think the world is all about them, yet the only thing that is truly hateable and a the same time an inherent part of women nature is that they are naturally attracted to criminals and fantasize about rape, using other traits to generalize foids is just cope

 

[iRespectWoman]

Well, I would assume that he would give me the sauce. Instead, after furthering the convo, he insists that getting pussy is ezy, and gives me the most overheard solution in existence: Just hit the gym.

so if a normie like him doesn’t fully understand women, and he understands what the right things to say are to get them, what makes you think you can?

 

[Incel Philosopher]

It's not my fault for being ugly, nor is it the fault of the women who rejected me for being biologically/socially inclined to not involve themselves with an ugly man. Doesn't make my natural resulting resentment any less valid.

 

[IceMan2000]

Serious question; have you read the stickys?

Would you get mad at a puppy if it decides to shit on the carpet? Of course not. I would be upset but I'm not going to punish the puppy for acting the way a puppy would naturally.

I'm not going to get mad at my son for wanting to ride his bike instead of doing homework, a kid is naturally going to want a more stimulating activity instead of wanting to complete homework.

A woman is always going to prefer a taller man over a shorter man, its just genetics. Am I going to get mad at them for being programmed after several millennia to lust after taller men? I KNOW why they behave the way they do, but it doesn't change that it hurts.

 

[geneticabomination2]

I hate women, speak for yourself

 

[92 drowsiness?]

I'll be quick here, as I'm short on time.

I've tried understanding women, and 10 years ago, guys on this forum would call me a cucked whiteknight if they'd see me. The more I tried to understand women, the angrier I became.
I'm sick and tired of having to understand women's petty dating "rules" and sneak little games
I don't call myself "oppressed", I'm just angry and tired.
And OP, you seem to be thinking too much on it ---- I'm single and an adult virgin because I'm short and ugly. That's it. I've tried - and continue to go to - the gym. I'm quite pleasant and polite in public. I treat my female coworkers as equals. I've made the attempt to dress well and be cleaned & well-groomed....but genetics wins at the end of the day

For the record, I want you to know that don't hate women ---- I just don't have much respect for them.

´´games´´ ``rules´´ are just for no chads,they give their pussy to chad without any games fucking whores.

 

[Asgard]

A woman is always going to prefer a taller man over a shorter man, its just genetics.