On Incels Using and Abusing Culture

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Incels become more introspective and intelligent than normies on average because the obstacles they come up against demand self-awareness and critical thinking, and when they find they cannot act in the outside world, they retreat into an inner-world of their own making. In cultivating these qualities, they open themselves up to indulgence in culture. Many incels have pretensions to culture, for example, reading Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, reading 'good books', watching 'good TV' and playing 'good videogames', and so on. It is common for incels to accuse normies of lacking introspection, intelligence and a sense of culture by the same measure. While these accusations have merit, we ought to look at why they're being made in the majority of cases. Indeed, it is uncommon for incels to accuse other incels of lacking these qualities, so what is it about normies that calls for critique?

Ultimately, many incels of this nature identify themselves with a higher order, proclaiming themselves above normies and their interests, and therefore looking down on them. They use this in order to comfort themselves by imagining they're too sophisticated to enjoy associating with normies, so thereby they will be isolated by society at large, but critically more self-isolated than before, isolated by choice, voluntarily isolated, and often they will strike out against normie preoccupations from the shadows, like popular videogames, movies, etc. Though the incels genuinely feel as though what normies like is all shit, and perhaps they are right, they anchor themselves to this role in order to make themselves superior to normies, look down on them, and reject them. This is essentially a small incel rebellion as I have envisioned it in my post history. It is an inversion of values that makes out qualities associated with strength and action as crude and cumbersome, while qualities associated with weakness and inaction are made subtle and intelligent. Although the pathology of these incels is that they only integrate themselves with culture to the extent that it allows them to be destructive towards 'the common'. They do not spend their time delving into the intricacies of culture and finding joy in it, and it does not invigorate their activity; it only enables them to tear down the cultural interests of successful and normal people out of pure resentment towards a world and its people that has not answered to their desires, so now they seek revenge against it and those who they're envious of. Many incels who think of themselves as cultured are actually not very cultured for this reason, they're only interested in using culture as a sword and shield.

TL;DR: Many incels become somewhat cultured to cope with not being successful in an 'uncultured world' so they can look down on it and regular people. They use their cultured sensibilities to snobbishly tear down happier and more successful people and their interests because they're resentful towards the world because it hasn't answered to their desires, and they're jealous of many uncultured people for being able to act in the world in ways they've failed to do. Incels enshrine contemplation because they cannot act.
 
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High IQ and bitter copepill. Humans, must find ways to cope no matter what. Survival is difficult without coping mechanisms like these. :feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
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Many incels become somewhat cultured to cope with not being successful in an 'uncultured world' so they can look down on it and regular people. They use their cultured sensibilities to snobbishly tear down happier and more successful people and their interests because they're resentful towards the world because it hasn't answered to their desires, and they're jealous of many uncultured people for being able to act in the world in ways they've failed to do. Incels enshrine contemplation because they cannot act.
Sums up the entirety of my life. I've become a bitter and angry cultured snob, all cause i couldn't get anywhere in life
 
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Yes, I think you have a point that incels might indulge in obscure culture to feel superior. But there could honestly be incels that dislike popular culture. In my case I have been very little anime because I feel like it has become over saturated with themes that appeal to regular people. I just feel like I would not enjoy watching something like that dragon maid anime because it seems very air head like. It has become a popular anime and I see meme content being generated that is similarly dumbed down like “don’t lewed the dragon”. Also other activities like drinking and partying don’t appeal to me because I don’t have the type of mind that would enjoy that.
 
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I love reading this kind of stuff. I would have never looked at it that way, everytime I come across posts like these I am ever more informed.
 
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Your post was spot on
 
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Yes, I think you have a point that incels might indulge in obscure culture to feel superior. But there could honestly be incels that dislike popular culture. In my case I have been very little anime because I feel like it has become over saturated with themes that appeal to regular people. I just feel like I would not enjoy watching something like that dragon maid anime because it seems very air head like. It has become a popular anime and I see meme content being generated that is similarly dumbed down like “don’t lewed the dragon”. Also other activities like drinking and partying don’t appeal to me because I don’t have the type of mind that would enjoy that.
There are many incels that genuinely dislike popular culture. My point is that dislike of popular culture is often caused by being incel because one cannot integrate themselves with 'the common' if it has rejected them, and incel sensibilities offer the capacity to appreciate higher culture as an alternative while also offering the sophistication cope. Moreover, many incels use their cultural interests to mostly destructive ends, they are not used to enrich their lives and invigorate their activity, they're used to tear down the things that normies enjoy as an act of revenge against them and the world. For example, many people act in a very ironic and mocking way, and if someone approaches them with an old out-of-style meme they'll bully them with a snide attitude. What are these ironic people like? What are their lives like? They're full of resentment, ugly and they're only interested in slandering life while being disengaged from it, because they're embittered losers who struggle to engage with what's normal, and typically what's healthy.
 
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Alot of incels here virtue signal without realizing it. Its a giant cope to deal with their failure.
"Oh im better than Chad and Stacies, they are so degenerate!1111"
"all normies are such bluepilled cucks, rather be incel!!!!1111"
Blackpill should be about acknowledging the hardest truths no matter what.
 
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eh. popular culture is low iq dogshit and normies are scum. does it make me a coper to say this? I don't think so :musicfeels:
 
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Yes, the isolation which is initially imposed by the normans ends up being largely voluntary, due to psychological abuse and the stress of interacting with society. Self-contemplation is necessary as it helps to raise levels of self-esteem and I think it can help to have more self-love that is important to each person.
 
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My favourite cope!

Being superior! And contemplating... And not doing.
 
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High IQ and bitter copepill. Humans, must find ways to cope no matter what. Survival is difficult without coping mechanisms like these. :feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
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I have more cultured taste compared to normslime but I don't delude myself that any of it matters or I'm better than anyone. I've had the privilege of mass amounts spare time due to my freakishness to indulge and develop obscure tastes. At the end of the day it's a cope like any other.

To be honest, I resent the ignorant bliss most normies and look advantaged people experience, not having to deal with perpetual failure and constant rejection, to believe they live in a meritocracy and things work out because they are "good people". They truly have it better than me because they experience genuine affection, human touch, and support. They'd have my respect if they were a bit more honest about the world and didn't proclaim we live in a just world. Some people, like myself, are born to fail.
 
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eh. popular culture is low iq dogshit and normies are scum. does it make me a coper to say this? I don't think so :musicfeels:
It is, everything that socially excluded or generally people in pain do is by definition a cope and is motivated by the need to feel less miserable.

You would be surprised if you discovered that your attempt to produce positives hormones in your brain by exploiting the domination feeling of having an higher IQ and a better subjective pseudo morality and tastes still won't even make for a quarter of the daily positives chemicals "normies" produce. Attacking normies is a cope less miserable than shitting on ethnics for example, but still a cope, like anything you're trying to do as a socially/sexually deprived man
 
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damn man i genuinely read every word despite the white text being hard on the eyes. very nice post man (not being sarcastic btw)
 
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All of your points are right but also coming from Balkans where introverts basically not exist i have to say that i'm trying to seclude myself as much as possible just because i can't tolerate the sheer stupidity and naivety of people around me.
 
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damn man i genuinely read every word despite the white text being hard on the eyes. very nice post man (not being sarcastic btw)
Yea me too tbh not even gonna lie
 
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No proper incel would think himself "superior" to normies and thus refuse to conform to popular culture; they refuse because conforming does you jack shit as a social reject by default. Shit thread.
 
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No proper incel would think himself "superior" to normies and thus refuse to conform to popular culture; they refuse because conforming does you jack shit as a social reject by default. Shit thread.
There are multiple incels in this thread who feel this way about normies and their popular culture. No true incel fallacy.
 
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High IQ.

The phenomenon of higher cultural sophistication you're describing helps explain why incel forums become normie infested, with Chads sometimes even among them.
 
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