Brutal One of the biggest turnoffs for foids: being a virgin

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many people will say you'll never ascend if you're a virgin at 18. no not really. because the percentage of virgins at 18 is significantly bigger than at 25 for example. you always have a chance of ascending regardless of age, but the chance becomes smaller and smaller as time goes by.

but being a virgin is a big turnoff for women past 21. if you're 18/19, women will still date you if you're a virgin. if you're 20/21, many women still won't care, but there will start to be a lot of women who will consider it a dealbreaker. past 21, many women won't date you if you're still a virgin. once you're past 21, instant red flags enter their heads if you're still a virgin. they want guys who can dominate/control them in bed because foids want to be super submissive. only the tall, muscular 10/10 alpha males with deep voices and long penises with big girth sizes will attract a lot of foids. any beta trait will make you have the SMV of a 5'2 balding indian janitor.

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"According to a study in The Journal of Sex Research, people are judgmental towards virgins in real life, not just in movies or television shows. In the first part of the study, researchers asked 560 heterosexual adults ages 18 to 71, about a quarter of whom were virgins, to rate their agreement with statements like "I feel that I am odd or abnormal because of my level of sexual experience" and "People treat me differently because of my level of sexual experience." Researchers discovered that virgins—but not those who were very sexually experienced—perceived a lot of stigma and exclusion around their sex lives. Then, the researchers asked another group of 4,934 single, heterosexual adults 21 and over, "How likely are you to consider getting into a committed relationship with someone who is a virgin?" The results confirmed the first findings: People rated their likelihood of dating a virgin at a 2.41, below the scale's midpoint of 2.5. The researchers also found that virgins were even less likely than non-virgins to be willing to enter a relationship with another virgin. Nonetheless, mysteriously, another study shows that virgins are more willing than non-virgins to date other virgins. In the third part of the study, college students ranked dating profiles of virgins and non-virgins, and the latter were again considered more desirable dates. Nonetheless, in this case, virgins were more willing than the rest of the population to dating another virgin. In a survey conducted by Match.com among single men and women who are non-members of Match.com (i.e.: not members of Match.com), 42% of respondents said they refuse to date a virgin (51% of women, compared to only 33% of men). Younger single adults were less willing to date a virgin than older single adults.

Although this means that 49% of single women are willing to date a virgin, there are still many women who refuse to. This means that if an adult male virgin tries to start relationships with women, he will face a lot of rejections half the time. Although one study shows that virgins are more willing than non-virgins to date other virgins, another shows that virgins are less willing than non-virgins to date another virgin, and even if virgins are willing to date a virgin, virgins are very rare by young adulthood."

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look at these videos. in the first video, some blonde foid says "ewww no i can't think of anything worse". so you can't think of domestic abusers, date rapists, cheaters, verbally abusive guys, etc? fuck you!

and in the second video, some blonde stacy says "if you're 20 and still a virgin there's something wrong with you". hey Regina George, stfu. you fucking cunt. and then some black haired tan skin foid (who also admitted to being a junior high teacher JFL) says "no i won't date a virgin if a guy is 27 (presumably her age) and a virgin i won't date him". well guess what? i bet you like taking the virginity of your students you fucking retard. fuck you!

In many threads on forums, while some women were willing to date virgins, there were also some who didn't want to. On r/AskWomen, in some threads, when asked what age being a virgin becomes a red flag, many women would say 22 or 23, some would say 24 or 25 or older 20s. Many people will wonder why you're still a virgin. They'll assume you're either super religious or that you're weird or awkward or there's a reason women didn't want you, and thus they should avoid you. There's threads online where men and women who are still virgins spoke about being rejected when their partner found out they're a virgin. Some of these virgins were as young as 19 or 20 years old. So even on forums, many women said they won't date virgins (although some said they will). I've even seen guys in their 20s say that women dumped them for being a virgin.
 
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Brutal pre-selection pill. Just to add to this, when you say virgin, i think you mean ascension with a non-hooker foid. Ive let foids know ive gone to escorts before and they found me even more repulsive when i said it.

Thats why it surprises me when idiots here think being KHHV has anything to do with escorts. As far as a foid is concerned, being a virgin (as bad as it is) is even better than having fucked only escorts. It shows to them you are extremely low value and potentially good only for betabux.
 
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Brutal pre-selection pill.
and if you think you can lie to a woman about being a virgin you're incorrect. when they see you suck at sex or last a short amount of time they'll know you're a virgin
 
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@Robtical @JosefMengelecel JFL in the second vid is a junior high school teacher at the beach, she's 27. she said she won't date a virgin but she probably takes the virginity of her students
 
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Looks>Being virgin

Foids most wanted thing is to takes a chad virginity, because they think they will be special at chads life.

Also, you can lie, escortcels have some kind of experience, so they are not going to see that they are virgins by how they act in the intercourse
 
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and if you think you can lie to a woman about being a virgin you're incorrect. when they see you suck at sex or last a short amount of time they'll know you're a virgin
Of course. If you lie to a foid and by some work of god, make it to bed with her, she'd immediately find out when youre rolling around in bed like a autistic retard (as any of us would).
 
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Looks>Being virgin

Foids most wanted thing is to takes a chad virginity, because they think they will be special at chads life.

Also, you can lie, escortcels have some kind of experience, so its not going to see that they are virgins by how they act in the intercourse
chad virgin is an oxymoron. also, if a woman finds you escortmaxxed, that'll turn them off even more
 
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meh. virgins can just fuck escorts and then lie about having former girlfriends. shouldn't be a problem for NTs
 
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chad virgin is an oxymoron. also, if a woman finds you escortmaxxed, that'll turn them off even more
True, they find escortmaxxing disgusting, but fucking random bitches without condom is not, i don't get their logic.

Also, just lie, say you are non virgin and that you never had sex with escorts (even if you are escortmaxxed, she will not notice the difference)

There are two ways a chad is virgin, he is volcel, or he is young. Its possible, but rare af, thats why foids have the dream of fucking with a virgin chad
 
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meh. virgins can just fuck escorts and then lie about having former girlfriends. shouldn't be a problem for NTs
True, they find escortmaxxing disgusting, but fucking random bitches without condom is not, i don't get their logic.

Also, just lie, say you are non virgin and that you never had sex with escorts (even if you are escortmaxxed, she will not notice the difference)

There are two ways a chad is virgin, he is volcel, or he is young. Its possible, but rare af, thats why foids have the dream of fucking with a virgin chad
escortmaxxing doesn't count. there's a reason it was forbidden in american pie when four 12th grade men made an agreement together to lose their virginity before graduation.
 
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escortmaxxing doesn't count. there's a reason it was forbidden in american pie when four 12th grade men made an agreement together to lose their virginity before graduation.
Based. Escortmaxxing makes you unattractive to foids. Secondly, escortmaxxing doesnt make you any lesser of an incel.
 
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if a woman finds you escortmaxxed, that'll turn them off even more
it just shows you aren't willing to jestermax to get cunny. Depending on where you live it can be more understanding if you don't have to travel out of the way.
 
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escortmaxxing doesn't count. there's a reason it was forbidden in american pie when four 12th grade men made an agreement together to lose their virginity before graduation.
''Doesn't count'', Elab plz. Doesn't count as what? As experience? Of course it does.

You will get used to get naked in front of random foids and you will know how to start intercourse, this is almost enough for they don't know you are a virgin, and they can't discover you are escortmaxxed (just if you are ugly or manlet)
 
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Based. Escortmaxxing makes you unattractive to foids. Secondly, escortmaxxing doesnt make you any lesser of an incel.
escortmaxxing is like getting married through arranged marriage or going to a school dance with your cousin
 
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escortmaxxing is like getting married through arranged marriage or going to a school dance with your cousin
Perhaps even worse. Where i live, if you get an arranged marriage, youd atleast get social status.
 
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that it's the norm in india, so everyone gets a higher social status if arrangemarriagemaxxing increases your social status.
I was talking about it on relative terms. an arranged marriage wouldnt necessarily make you high status, but if youre 30+ and not married, youd be looked upon as a loser and associated with very low social status. A lot of my "friends", after they got married, wouldnt associate with me anymore. Even the ugliest guy here somehow gets married by around 30.
 
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I was talking about it on relative terms. an arranged marriage wouldnt necessarily make you high status, but if youre 30+ and not married, youd be looked upon as a loser and associated with very low social status. A lot of my "friends", after they got married, wouldnt associate with me anymore. Even the ugliest guy here somehow gets married by around 30.
i've heard women and men in india usually get married these days at 21 and 25, respectively.
 
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i've heard women and men in india usually get married these days at 21 and 25, respectively.
Usually, yes. In the cities, by age 30 for men and 25 for foids.
 
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Brutal pre-selection pill. Just to add to this, when you say virgin, i think you mean ascension with a non-hooker foid. Ive let foids know ive gone to escorts before and they found me even more repulsive when i said it.

Thats why it surprises me when idiots here think being KHHV has anything to do with escorts. As far as a foid is concerned, being a virgin (as bad as it is) is even better than having fucked only escorts. It shows to them you are extremely low value and potentially good only for betabux.

If you've escortcelled then you're more of a pariah to women.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Basically as a short ugly dude you're just Damned.
chad virgin is an oxymoron. also, if a woman finds you escortmaxxed, that'll turn them off even more

I've noticed.
Based. Escortmaxxing makes you unattractive to foids. Secondly, escortmaxxing doesnt make you any lesser of an incel.

it just shows you aren't willing to jestermax to get cunny. Depending on where you live it can be more understanding if you don't have to travel out of the way.

escortmaxxing is like getting married through arranged marriage or going to a school dance with your cousin

Perhaps even worse. Where i live, if you get an arranged marriage, youd atleast get social status.
 
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If you've escortcelled then you're more of a pariah to women.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Basically as a short ugly dude you're just Damned.


I've noticed.
resorting to escorts is a sign you would've been a virgin without escorts
 
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@Robtical @JosefMengelecel JFL in the second vid is a junior high school teacher at the beach, she's 27. she said she won't date a virgin but she probably takes the virginity of her students
She probably fucked at least a dozen virgin chads from her classes. Welcome back!
 
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many people will say you'll never ascend if you're a virgin at 18. no not really. because the percentage of virgins at 18 is significantly bigger than at 25 for example. you always have a chance of ascending regardless of age, but the chance becomes smaller and smaller as time goes by.

but being a virgin is a big turnoff for women past 21. if you're 18/19, women will still date you if you're a virgin. if you're 20/21, many women still won't care, but there will start to be a lot of women who will consider it a dealbreaker. past 21, many women won't date you if you're still a virgin. once you're past 21, instant red flags enter their heads if you're still a virgin. they want guys who can dominate/control them in bed because foids want to be super submissive. only the tall, muscular 10/10 alpha males with deep voices and long penises with big girth sizes will attract a lot of foids. any beta trait will make you have the SMV of a 5'2 balding indian janitor.



here's more proof:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEuCa01iKZg

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjQ-bTL-3AA


look at these videos. in the first video, some blonde foid says "ewww no i can't think of anything worse". so you can't think of domestic abusers, date rapists, cheaters, verbally abusive guys, etc? fuck you!

and in the second video, some blonde stacy says "if you're 20 and still a virgin there's something wrong with you". hey Regina George, stfu. you fucking cunt. and then some black haired tan skin foid (who also admitted to being a junior high teacher JFL) says "no i won't date a virgin if a guy is 27 (presumably her age) and a virgin i won't date him". well guess what? i bet you like taking the virginity of your students you fucking retard. fuck you!

In many threads on forums, while some women were willing to date virgins, there were also some who didn't want to. On r/AskWomen, in some threads, when asked what age being a virgin becomes a red flag, many women would say 22 or 23, some would say 24 or 25 or older 20s. Many people will wonder why you're still a virgin. They'll assume you're either super religious or that you're weird or awkward or there's a reason women didn't want you, and thus they should avoid you. There's threads online where men and women who are still virgins spoke about being rejected when their partner found out they're a virgin. Some of these virgins were as young as 19 or 20 years old. So even on forums, many women said they won't date virgins (although some said they will). I've even seen guys in their 20s say that women dumped them for being a virgin.
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i know. think about this often. imagine trying to just kiss a foid with experience. how could she not laugh and run away? this is something that should have been learned as a teen.
 
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She probably fucked at least a dozen virgin chads from her classes. Welcome back!
i bet she takes them to the classroom during lunch to get it on with them.
 
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i know. think about this often. imagine trying to just kiss a foid with experience. how could she not laugh and run away? this is something that should have been learned as a teen.
most people have their first kiss at 14
 
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resorting to escorts is a sign you would've been a virgin without escorts

But what is it to them though what you get up to in your private life though?
 
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more like theres something wrong with you if you're still a virgin at 14
 
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Also, just lie,

You probably will never have to, though. Very few people, let alone a woman with whom you may ascend, will ever ask.

Just keep this information to yourself. I am fairly sure nobody will ever want to know anyway.

If someone does ask, be elusive or refuse to answer, with something like "why would you care to know?" or "I don't have to tell you that".

Don't lie. There are other ways not to let people know that detail about yourself. Don't ever blankly admit you never had sex.
 
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You probably will never have to, though. Very few people, let alone a woman with whom you may ascend, will ever ask.

Just keep this information to yourself. I am fairly sure nobody will ever want to know anyway.
In your first time you’ll suck At sex so she’ll inevitably find out
 
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You probably will never have to, though. Very few people, let alone a woman with whom you may ascend, will ever ask.

Just keep this information to yourself. I am fairly sure nobody will ever want to know anyway.

If someone does ask, be elusive or refuse to answer, with something like "why would you care to know?" or "I don't have to tell you that".

Don't lie. There are other ways not to let people know that stuff.
It’s not about asking, it’s about being ugly, when you are ugly, people assume that you are a virgin (except for thugmaxxers)
 
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It's ok if they assume it, but don't admit it and keep the benefit of the doubt.
Benefit of the doubt don’t exist, they are 100% sure you are a virgin, based on how you look and how you act.

I don’t mind saying I’m a KHHV when people ask, they already know it, because of halo effect
 
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In your first time you’ll suck At sex so she’ll inevitably find out

You will suck at your second time, too. And probably the third time too. The only conclusion she'll be able to make will be that you've not had sex very often.

Ideally you should at least have sex with prostitutes anyway. I know, it's not the same as free sex, but it's very close to what normies get (probably very different for Chad, though).

Benefit of the doubt don’t exist, they are 100% sure you are a virgin, based on how you look and how you act.

It's not 100%.

And even if it is, you're still better off not saying it out loud. Don't ask me why, it's just how it is.
 
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You will suck at your second time, too. And probably the third time too. The only conclusion she'll be able to make will be that you've not had sex very often.

Ideally you should at least have sex with prostitutes anyway. I know, it's not the same as free sex, but it's very close.
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You could always just lie about it if you want. Also welcome back.