Serious The Celebration of My Ban Is A Classic Case Of Anti-Intellectualism

[Deleted member 21230]

The only reason we know of Socrates today is his knowledge was inscribed in books of lengths much greater than my posts.

Plato wrote about socrates in books for the whole (known at the time) world to see, not on some obscure anonimous internet forum

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

If you were high IQ, you would have understood that by now that writing such long articles is pointless and you should try to keep it as short as possible.

The Artist creates art for its own sake, not for the dazzle of inferior minds.

Plato wrote about socrates in books for the whole (known at the time) world to see, not on some obscure anonimous internet forum

Actually he only wrote those scribes for Aristotle's school. He didn't expect them to become famous for the world to see, especially not the world over 2000 years later.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

I am living rent free inside your head. For a person who's threads you don't read you whine a lot on them.

I haven't posted in the majority of your threads. I'm just bored rn tbh

 

[stuttercel]

If you think you are intellectual you are probably not

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

I haven't posted in the majority of your threads. I'm just bored rn tbh

ngl I think you do read my threads

 

[WØLF]

 

[Lookscel]

The Artist creates art for its own sake, not for the dazzle of inferior minds.

But the title and first lines of your post indicates you are talking about others

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Not one word. Also stand by what ive previously said. Anyone who has to make their "high IQ" their identity. Is usually low IQ. Dunning Krueger is an appropriate term.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

But the title and first lines of your post indicates you are talking about others

My post is about others, but the purpose of my post is for art through truth, an objective good. Much like how the Mona Lisa is about a foid, but Da Vinci almost certainly cares more about the art than the foid he was painting

Not one word. Also stand by what ive previously said. Anyone who has to make their "high IQ" their identity. Is usually low IQ. Dunning Krueger is an appropriate term.

It would be appropriate if I were not actually a genius, but i am, therefore your point is moot.

 

[Deleted member 23682]

ngl I think you do read my threads

I skimmed over some of this thread. glossed over the nazi part though

I heard you got banned for promoting the gays though? Didn't see that one tbh. That shit doesn't belong here. You need to read the rules tbh. How do you expect people to read your long threads if you can't even read the rules?

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

While it is true that perseverance is important, passion is largely nonsense in my view, and IQ and conscientiousness are both major predictors of job success and wealth.
Passion is nonsense in that merely being passionate about a subject doesn't matter as much as one's intellectual capabilities.

The reason MENSA members haven't accomplished much is likely because they tend to be narcissistic losers who pride themselves on their IQ so as to make up for laziness and failure in other areas of their life.

OP is also the most hardcore narcissist I have ever observed on this forum. Simplicity matters on forums. If you wish to write giant walls of text on your thoughts, you could start a blog. I actually bothered to read the first post by the way.

I actually am in the process of getting a PHD though, I write papers on very complex topics.

 

[randomcel92]

Writing a post that long is just disrespectful to the other users here

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

I skimmed over some of this thread. glossed over the nazi part though

I heard you got banned for promoting the gays though? Didn't see that one tbh. That shit doesn't belong here. You need to read the rules tbh. How do you expect people to read your long threads if you can't even read the rules?

I was falsey accused and strawmanned. I never defended homosexuality. I condemned homophobia as a form of normie supremacy, but never said I respect anything about homosexuals. I also said oppression of homosexuality was just as bad as oppression of incels. My message was mainly aimed at users who argue it's a crime how incels are denied the right to solicit prostitutes, but then promote the criminialization of homosexuality.

Writing a post that long is just disrespectful to the other users here

Not reading my posts and responding with an appropriate analytical reply on the topic is disrespectful and trashy.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

I was falsey accused and strawmanned. I never defended homosexuality. I condemned homophobia as a form of normie supremacy, but never said I respect anything about homosexuals. I also said oppression of homosexuality was just as bad as oppression of incels. My message was mainly aimed at users who argue it's a crime how incels are denied the right to solicit prostitutes, but then promote the criminialization of homosexuality.


Not reading my posts and responding with an appropriate analytical reply on the topic is disrespectful and trashy.

"Muh Strawman"

Didn't you wrote that gayish post about that male model yesterday. I think you should come out of the closet already and GTFO from this place

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

"Muh Strawman"

Didn't you wrote that gayish post about that male model yesterday. I think you should come out of the closet already and GTFO from this place

If recognizing another male is attractive then anyone who uses the word "Chad" ever should be banned for gaymaxxing.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

 

[Deleted member 25707]

If recognizing another male is attractive then anyone who uses the word "Chad" ever should be banned for gaymaxxing.

@Fontaine you have shit ton of money, go fuck some hookers man, don't waste your time here ffs

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

@Fontaine you have shit ton of money, go fuck some hookers man, don't waste your time here ffs

I'm not fontaine and

1. Even if i went to europe to escortmax, I'm so ugly they would probably reject me and

2. I'd 100% get kiss-rejected. Something I actually crave more than sex is making out. To me it seems really really hot. And i have a deformed mouth so it's impossible I would ever get that service.

 

[Convergence]

I agree with OP. Users here have a lot of potential, but mask their feelings of insecurity with conspirational hatred and extremist thinking.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

I agree with OP. Users here have a lot of potential, but mask their feelings of insecurity with conspirational hatred and extremist thinking.

Top Tier Think-Tank level IQ

 

[Deleted member 25707]

I'm not fontaine and

1. Even if i went to europe to escortmax, I'm so ugly they would probably reject me and

2. I'd 100% get kiss-rejected. Something I actually crave more than sex is making out. To me it seems really really hot. And i have a deformed mouth so it's impossible I would ever get that service.

JFL no they won't, maybe some would but if you have money they will fuck you. Ofcourse they would be disgusted by you but they are so desperate. Also prostitution is cheap as fuck in Shitholes like Ukraine and Belarus.

Also, this forum is not for intellectual masturbators. We are here to LDAR and make friends. If you want to showcase your "muh high IQ" than fuck off to Stack overflow or maybe write a personal blog.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

JFL no they won't, maybe some would but if you have money they will fuck you. Ofcourse they would be disgusted by you but they are so desperate. Also prostitution is cheap as fuck in Shitholes like Ukraine and Belarus.

Also, this forum is not for intellectual masturbators. We are here to LDAR and make friends. If you want to showcase your "muh high IQ" than fuck off to Stack overflow or maybe write a personal blog.

I have an ugly but non deformed friend who said escorts didn't even kiss him. When would they ever think about doing it with someone who's a literal deformity.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

I'm not fontaine and

1. Even if i went to europe to escortmax, I'm so ugly they would probably reject me and

2. I'd 100% get kiss-rejected. Something I actually crave more than sex is making out. To me it seems really really hot. And i have a deformed mouth so it's impossible I would ever get that service.

This makes you more relatable that the high iqcel that you try so hard to portray yourself to be.

 

[MentalistKebab]

@MENSA_IQcel bro I dont know what you are thinking but this place is not for discussing philosophy. Also its easier to get called faggot in this place than Saudi Arabia. So you shouldnt care so much

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

This makes you more relatable that the high iqcel that you try so hard to portray yourself to be.

The deformity or the wanting to be kissed thing?

 

[Deleted member 25707]

I have an ugly but non deformed friend who said escorts didn't even kiss him. When would they ever think about doing it with someone who's a literal deformity.

You have to pay. Everything has a price. You pay them 100$ extra and you can even do BDSM rape play. These whores are like primitive monkeys.
You are just making excuses now

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

You have to pay. Everything has a price. You pay them 100$ extra and you can even do BDSM rape play. These whores are like primitive monkeys.
You are just making excuses now

My friend said that he could not get a escort willing to kiss him.

 

[Felatio]

People who claim to be intelligent aren´t really intelligent

 

[Deleted member 25707]

My friend said that he could not get a escort willing to kiss him.

Yeah, some won't because they consider kissing much more intimate or some are in relationships (JFL) SO yeah they won't kiss. But that's a very small percent, maybe your friend was not very lucky in that regard.

But you said you are deformed right?
Hmm that would be a problem, they might not kiss you in that case depending on your severity. If you can fix your deformity than you have some chance otherwise idk I'm not sure. It all depends on your deformity. Sad shit man.

 

[MENSA_IQcel]

People who claim to be intelligent aren´t really intelligent

Low IQ post.

 

[Deleted member 19079]

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[MENSA_IQcel]

Yeah, some won't because they consider kissing much more intimate or some are in relationships (JFL) SO yeah they won't kiss. But that's a very small percent, maybe your friend was not very lucky in that regard.

But you said you are deformed right?
Hmm that would be a problem, they might not kiss you in that case depending on your severity. If you can fix your deformity than you have some chance otherwise idk I'm not sure. It all depends on your deformity. Sad shit man.

It's the reason i care about being smart, it's the one thing in which im not an inferior rat at being.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

I agree with OP. Users here have a lot of potential, but mask their feelings of insecurity with conspirational hatred and extremist thinking.

I agree with that ngl. Some (most?) People are just wasting their true potential. They should read. I like reading tbh.

 

[theson]

Writing long posts doesn't make you smart friendo.

EDIT: FUCK I BROKE MY SILENCE AND INCREMENTED MY POST COUNT

 

[Felatio]

Low IQ post.

I admit that i´m of low iq because it´s true

 

[San Salvador]

I actually am in the process of getting a PHD though, I write papers on very complex topics.

Which PHD, and which topics?

 

[Turbansinghcel]

The history of anti-intellectualism is irrelevant to the validity (or otherwise) of your posts. And, frankly, your post IS too long. Your post covers a myriad of topics, each of which requires hours of verifying research to corroborate, and each of which are only brought up in a fleeting way. Your post has no data and contains no structured argument of any kind to support your central claims.

Unless you count high-level and vague narrative history as data, these are all just your speculations. They are extremely long-winded speculations, and speculating on a forum is perfectly okay. However, they are not inherently better than the speculations (or even straight up shitposting) of anybody else on here, to be honest.

Why should you be regarded as an "intellectual" when it is clear that your only goal is to maintain the facade of "intellectuality" by writing giant posts dripping with the cliches of "intellectualism"; with common terms substituted needlessly with more abstract synonyms using a thesaurus? A wordless post just showing a data table or a graph is a thousand times more (substantively) intellectual than these (retarded) posts.

 

[Operation Miranda]

I have an ugly but non deformed friend who said escorts didn't even kiss him. When would they ever think about doing it with someone who's a literal deformity.

Can't you moneymaxx and get surgeries? It shouldn't be hard for you to find a high paying job later right. Or is the deformity really severe

 

[Deleted member 21219]

The deformity or the wanting to be kissed thing?

Both.

 

[Wristlet 2]

high IQ, im glad you're back brocel

 

[Deleted member 24081]

bigly iq

 

[IsolationHurts]

If we want to search for truth, if we want to discover the very essence of the blackpill in its purest and undisturbed version, we need to be having these conversations.

That is just one way to see the black pill. I dont think there is much to think about it, everything has been covered. You can incorporate black pilled ideas in your own, more personal, and more wide, philosophy. Maybe you can make more sense of it from a schopenhauerian or nietzschean or mainlanderian background. I do. But the black pill itself cant be more "pure" than it is right now. For example: people like you get their posts deleted because of this "pure dogma" thing. If you want to speculate about Jung, Horkheimer or Cioran, you can do it as long as your specualition doesnt attack the actual hierarchy of power that sustains and mantains the ideas youre speculating with. Trust me. I like a spanish philosopher or two whose ideas i discuss in public spaces and i can get easily demonized just because i dont just repeat their ideas again in different words, but challenge some core assumptions of their systems from different (nihilistic and atheist) perspectives.

This forum is not an "obscure forum", it's true destiny is to be a neo-Athenian forum of reason and logic. We could be philosophers if we wanted, but instead we are cyber-vagrants.

You cant be serious. This is delusional. Literally delusional. I am beginning to suspect you are a troll or you forgot to take your meds.

I actually am in the process of getting a PHD though, I write papers on very complex topics.

.... What do you study? What is your area of research? Can you tell us any subject that you have written about? History maybe? You seem to have read Caroll Quigley. I have written about the history of atheism and its philosophical implications. There are no serious histories of atheism but tons of histories of religions (first of them all, Eliade´s one) and all of them are based on the same weak philosophical principles (about the "sacred" or noumen from Otto and other phenomenologists). We can discuss it if you want.

I could keep reading you but i honestly think you are not being honest here. I dont think you are an actual resercher, or that youre getting a PhD.
Second, you are clearly autistic. I am very socially retarded too, but you are doing nothing to hide it. It is impossible for you to succeed in a place like this. This is nof the fucking Catholic Church and you are not fucking Bruno. There is no free thought here, and no dogmatic reason to push it. No fair processes where you can defend yourself (like saint thomas), no social recognition, no complex hierarchy of power in which corners you can hide your heterodoxy, no capital. You are absolutely deluded, in a way that an autistic person would be. I have no problem with that, im almost autistic too, and plenty of autists here. But i take responsability, and you dont. I try to recognize and soften my flaws, you dont. Thats annoying. More annoying that autistic maxxposting tbh.
Third, you suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder. You want to seem way more important that you are, and you want to be persuing some mystical goals that are actually impossible but sound grandiose. Etc. I have no problem with it, lots of crazy people aroun here. I suffer from avoidant personality disorder. Again, i try to recognize it and work with it, and dont annoy people thinking that my point of view is the right (its not) and trying to convince them to join my mental fucking disorder.

That was fun to read tho. Indeed, people hate intelectuals for no reason

tl;dr: op is probably young and autistic, he is not used to social interaction, and forgot to take his meds (so delusional).

Sorry for my bad english btw

 

[Deleted member 23944]

I was recently banned and had my thread about homophobia removed. The reason for my ban was the promotion of homosexuality and transsexualism. My opinion on my ban is irrelevant as I am not a moderator of the forum and quite frankly I do not present myself here to discuss my previous thread; I stand here today to discuss the rampant anti-intellectualism on this forum in respect to celebratory posts regarding my ban. I believe with utmost sincerity that my ban had nothing to do with supposed breaking of the rules, but stemmed from intellectual suppression under the guise of collective visceral hatred. There is clearly an ""establishment"" present on incels.co, my posts posed a peril to this invisible hierarchy, and thus I had to be done away with. There is a significant portion of this site who has distasteful ill feelings towards me so it was not arduous for the mods to adduce this as their justification for suspension. This is noisomely similar to media and tech oligarchs (or their technocratic henchmen) censoring speech they consider offensive and using the general populance dislike of un-liberal ideas as their vindication for doing so when there is clearly a political conflict of interest behind the scenes. This happens in every social information system on the planet and incels.co is no exception.

It's important to note the history of anti-intellectualism to know where it stems from. This post is too short to go over a history of every incidence of anti-intellectualism so I'll briefly go over some past examples and state my conclusion. I'll use the Nazis as a perfect example (inb4 I'm called a leftist Jewish shill, the Nazis were NOT our friends and were very Chad-centric, I'll make a thread on this later if I'm not banned). When the Nazis took power in Nazi Germany, the left had general control over academia, for good or bad depending on where you stand politically. Magnus Hirschfeld was a Jewish intellectual, advocate for transexualism and performed gender-changing operations on his students who requested one. I'm not looking for another ban so I will state clearly and explicitly I THINK THAT IS DISGUSTING AND I DO NOT SUPPORT IT. However it's important to note the National Socialists, upon taking power, used Magnus Hirschfeld and his sexual deviancy as a scapegoat to attack all intellectuals. The Nazis set an order to print papers explicitly stating exactly what he's been doing, and asked for these papers to be put up in every major city before rounding up any left-leaning professors as political prisoners. What's interesting is the posters outlining what this man did NEVER GOT PRINTED DUE TO AN ERROR IN THE PRINTING PRESS where these posters were supposed to be printed. Professors, intellectuals, and any professor who opposed the philosophy of Nordic Supremacy, National Socialism, or were merely critical of the parties strategic viewpoints, were imprisoned and the public was left without any justification at all for why this happened.

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Can you guess what the public reaction was? Keep in mind this was a fuck-up by the Nazis. They raided these universities, instituted immediate book turnings of prized academic literature and shut down entire colleges demeaned as promoting liberalism or degeneracy WITHOUT distributing the propaganda posters stating why they were doing it. People at the time knew the Nazis were critical of higher-education but it still was unthinkable they would take such drastic action. DESPITE THE LACK OF JUSTIFICATION FROM THE NAZIS, THE PUBLIC CELEBRATED THE "INTELLECTUAL CLENSING" OF INTELLECTUALS, EVEN LOW-CLASS UNEDUCATED GERMANS WHO DIDN'T KNOW A MICK OF WHAT WHEN ON BEHIND THE GATES OF THESE IVORY TOWERS.

Soon after this event, the Nazis (and world political class) realized intellectuals were the easiest group of people to scapegoat, even easier than the Jews or Bourgeois. After-all, the Jews could appeal to innocence as a widely oppressed poor minority, and the bourgeois can claim they are the wealth and job creators and without them life would be worse; intellectuals had a much harder time justifying their existence. Regardless of if you think psychology, sociology, or the humanities are a waste of time or not, it's much harder to convince the general public that these are important for civilization maintenance than it is for a factory owner to convince his direct employees that he is needed for them to have jobs. Keep in mind what was stated here wasn't exclusive to Germany, this is a widespread sociological phenomena in every society with a non-religiously based intellectual class (intellectuals in ancient Egypt or medieval Europe for example were not despised as they were gatekeepers to heaven). Joseph Stalin noticed this about Germany and turned the Soviet propaganda machines against the Universities for more broad and unconditional support. Post 1935 Soviet propaganda was directed against intellectuals than the bourgoise (even though """bourgoise"""" capitalists still existed in the USSR until well into the 40s. The United States further seized on this unprecedented knowledge. In the 1950s the U.S government issued BOOK BURNINGS from European intellectuals, both under the influence of Senator McCarthy and from leftist government bureaucrats who deemed the academic literature ("dangerously undemocratic). The public supported this, and even moderate leftists generally supported the McCarthy efforts until he turned his focus to Hollywood and the military.

Down Below IS AN AMERICAN BOOK BURNING SESSION
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*This is why the first thing Pol Pot did when he came to power is wipe out all the intellectuals. Not only were they a threat to his regime but they were a perfect scapegoat. He knew the public would support anti-intellectual oppression without any rationale needed. It got to the point where his regime would kill anyone with glasses because it meant they knew how to read. IMHO I believe the classic sterotype of intellectuals being UGLY is one reason why the public is so quick to turn on them. Had intellectuals been stereotypical good looking, public would not shift against them so easily

Personally I've always seen myself as a Galileo, but after spending some time on incels.co and seeing my ban I'm seeing myself more and more like Giordano Bruno. Giordano Bruno was an Italian philosopher and intellectual who defied the teachings of the church and argued for cosmic pluralism, heliocentricism, existential nihilism. He was expelled from every country he visited, hated by the unworthy masses, and eventually charged, convicted, and executed for heresy by the Roman Inquisition. He was tortured publicly, and then burned at the steak for arguing for things which we see as common sense today. This is how I feel after my incels.co ban. I feel like I'm merely suppressed by the powers that be for analyzing the blackpill with an academic mindset, while being ravaged by a willful majority who hate me merely for being an intellectual.

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Why Are People Universally So Anti-Intellectual?

Asides from basic lookism and the fact that intellectuals are typically seen as unattractive and physically unfit, the answer is really quite simple. Intellectuals remind them of their own inferiority. When one stumbles upon one of my threads, realizes they are too impatient or too low-IQ to read, understand, and critically analyze and respond to my thread, they become angry. They become angry at themselves for being the intellectual dwarf they are, but they put the blame on me for bringing up the fact with my work. In all honesty I don't blame many of the low-IQ members of this forum for their beliefs. Incels spend all day feeling inferior, seeing Chads kissing Stacies, seeing normies live normie lives, being subtly shunned in every social interaction; they come to incels.co because they can be equals here and relate to other people with similar problems. When they see my threads discussing history, politics, philosophy, law, game theory, psychology, etc, they realize how much I as a fellow incel, someone of whom I am suppose to be their equal, IQ-mog them into oblivion. This site is meant to be a safespace for incels where no one can out-class them in any way. This is why we ban bragging. I must admit it hurts me the same way when I see another incel talk about how rich they are. I come from a lower middle class background, when I see incels, people I assume lived similar lives to me, have luxurious wealth privilege, it irritates me. It makes me feel even more inferior because I realize I am even lower than this individual who believes they are as low as one can be.

However, I still think intellectualism is important if we incels are to have any discussion at all. It is unfortunate that our very nature as humans makes us spiteful and resentful to those who are better, but we can not hold down this forum for the low-IQ users. If we want to search for truth, if we want to discover the very essence of the blackpill in its purest and undisturbed version, we need to be having these conversations. Posts like "[BLACKPILL] YOUR ONEITIS IS FUCKING CHAD DURING THIS LOCKDOWN" is absolute garbage that will contribute NOTHING to this forum. If we continue this pathway towards anti-intellectual tyranny, BlackPilPres will be the only one making threads longer than a sentence and they'll be nothing but subtle bluepills wrapped in cosmic nihilism and fallacious evolutionary arguments.

You really know how to get people stirring lol.

 

[Maxilla]

You remind me a lot of Mrz with these ridiculously long winded posts and this superiority complex you have

If we're so anti-intellectual as you say we are, it would seem like a waste of energy to put this much effort into your posts/threads you know the larger portion of the userbase isn't going to read more than one paragraph of

 

[Deleted member 22999]

It is very anti intellectual yeah. I didn’t read the full thing but I can’t argue with at least that claim.

 

[PPEcel]

Didnt read

Also im rich just saying

The history of anti-intellectualism is irrelevant to the validity (or otherwise) of your posts. And, frankly, your post IS too long. Your post covers a myriad of topics, each of which requires hours of verifying research to corroborate, and each of which are only brought up in a fleeting way. Your post has no data and contains no structured argument of any kind to support your central claims.

Unless you count high-level and vague narrative history as data, these are all just your speculations. They are extremely long-winded speculations, and speculating on a forum is perfectly okay. However, they are not inherently better than the speculations (or even straight up shitposting) of anybody else on here, to be honest.

Why should you be regarded as an "intellectual" when it is clear that your only goal is to maintain the facade of "intellectuality" by writing giant posts dripping with the cliches of "intellectualism"; with common terms substituted needlessly with more abstract synonyms using a thesaurus? A wordless post just showing a data table or a graph is a thousand times more (substantively) intellectual than these (retarded) posts.

Based reply

To Op. 3 Words = Dunning-Krueger Effect.
cc: @PPEcel

Holy shit this got a shit ton of replies very quickly

 

[Deleted member 22531]

High IQcel

 

[Cheesecel]

My take on this is that what you are saying is mostly correct, however people don’t like long posts and inserting how smart you are. Should a person who is actually smart need to tell someone they are smart? That’s a telltale sign of insecurity. Also, people don’t take pres seriously. Ive seen a comment call whats going on here a “pseudointellectual hierarchy”. The reason why there is an “establishment“ of people who think they are smart is because they don’t go posting walls of text on an incels forum. Its actually more believable. People dont think they’re inferior, they think you’re inferior.

 

[Deleted member 22572]

I didn't even realise you were ever banned

 

[Lookscel]

101 replies jfl