The fact that average guys lift weights and go to the gym kills the appeal to me

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I would consider gymcelling if it was an environment that only buff Chads participated in, and you could get a leg up on the averages of society by doing so.

But EVERY guy in his late teens and 20s lifts. What's the point? You won't get a leg up on them body wise, you'd just catch up to them. Your appeal would go from 1.5% to 1.8%. A waste of time.

I wish I there was physical workouts that would be effective in losing weight so I can stop being a fatcel, but all that matters is food.
 
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Looks like most guys are overweight or fat tbh
 
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I have no desire to exercise. I have no strength for it and i can't handle the pain. It won't change anything anyway.
 
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True, but the average guy whos lifting in the gym has no clue. If you have a good foundation, you can build and maintain a physique most guys will never achieve because of their shitty programs.
 
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But EVERY guy in his late teens and 20s lifts. What's the point?
Most of them are giving up or they do it because of ''health''. You should hit the gym until you spit blood. This is the real reason.
 
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did arnold shwartzanigger say its better than sex or something
 
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Lol most guys at commercial gyms only do fluff and pump, dont know what theyre doing and are weak as shit. The average guy cant even deadlift 405 which is really pathetic. Real gyms like powerlifting gyms have actual strong guys who know what theyre doing.

Also gymceling wont help you ascend at ALL. Thinking other wise is cope. Face, Height and NT are EVERYTHING. Only do it if you actually enjoy it as a hobby.
 
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Lol it's ridiculous. Around 2013 the idea of "the gym" really fucking started to take off and now literally every guy you meet goes.

To think there was a point in time where people actually viewed "being buff" in a good light is absurd to me.
 
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I wish I there was physical workouts that would be effective in losing weight so I can stop being a fatcel, but all that matters is food.
Just stop eating.

Search "Angus Barbieri" if you think fasting is dangerous.
 
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Lifting won't change your frame that much unless you're bulking with <15% bodyfat and wanna look like a 80s wrestler
 
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Just stop eating.

Search "Angus Barbieri" if you think fasting is dangerous.
I also went for water fasting. I just stopped eating for a week despite the fact i eat pretty much. So, everybody can actually do it. I also consumed some healing clay on top of that.
 
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Lol most guys at commercial gyms only do fluff and pump, dont know what theyre doing and are weak as shit. The average guy cant even deadlift 405 which is really pathetic. Real gyms like powerlifting gyms have actual strong guys who know what theyre doing.

Also gymceling wont help you ascend at ALL. Thinking other wise is cope. Face, Height and NT are EVERYTHING. Only do it if you actually enjoy it as a hobby.

it's all genes and bone structure

there is no "knowing what you're doing" except for maybe diet

strength = thick bones and nothing less
 
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I only work out casually these days, helps me cope but I can't be bothered to put too much effort into it.
 
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Teehee I love skinny nerdy guys and guys with dad bods :3 (as long as they're 6 foot tall, white and aren't sub 6 facially)
 
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it's all genes and bone structure

there is no "knowing what you're doing" except for maybe diet

strength = thick bones and nothing less
You also forgot about sleep and stress. Those are big factors as well.
Tell me again that the guy at 1:09 (time stamp) and the lighter weight classes have "thick bones and nothing less".
 
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Most of them quit after a few months or a couple of years tops, so bodywise you can get ahead of 90% of guys merely on persistence and good nutrition.
But the only leg up you'll get is you'll have a better body, which in my case didn't change my life in any meaningful way. Instead of being a guy with an average body who was being completely ignored by foids, I became a guy with a really nice body who was getting completely ignored by foids.
Now I've pretty much given it up on it because the effort isn't worth the benefits. Come to think of it, most guys who try lifting quit probably for the same reason but in a few months rather than 15 years.
 
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No need to lift right now, my main focus is losing all my fat. And even untrained i can still lift the weights that someone my height and age can lift when untrained, so that's good.
 
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I go to the gym only some days just to escape my problems and cope
 
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Most of them quit after a few months or a couple of years tops, so bodywise you can get ahead of 90% of guys merely on persistence and good nutrition.
But the only leg up you'll get is you'll have a better body, which in my case didn't change my life in any meaningful way. Instead of being a guy with an average body who was being completely ignored by foids, I became a guy with a really nice body who was getting completely ignored by foids.
Now I've pretty much given it up on it because the effort isn't worth the benefits. Come to think of it, most guys who try lifting quit probably for the same reason but in a few months rather than 15 years.
You lifting for 15 years then quit?

I’ve been lifting for nearly 8 years soon, it seems more of an autistic habit now, I learned long ago that’s it didn’t help anything. But ya you’re right most guys do quit. Most guys I noticed quit after a year or so at most
 
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I would consider gymcelling if it was an environment that only buff Chads participated in, and you could get a leg up on the averages of society by doing so.

But EVERY guy in his late teens and 20s lifts. What's the point? You won't get a leg up on them body wise, you'd just catch up to them. Your appeal would go from 1.5% to 1.8%. A waste of time.

I wish I there was physical workouts that would be effective in losing weight so I can stop being a fatcel, but all that matters is food.

Youll be amazed how many people dont have the strength to hit the gym .. and how very fit people actually there is in the avarage street..very few

Be able to achieve an athelete body without any chemicals is a genetic gift all by itself
 
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Weightlifting is a scam, just like PUA. You cannot change your DNA.
 
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I was going to make a thread on this, but may as well post my views here.

Over the past 14 months of me training in the gym, I've seen kids as young as 13 lifting weights in the gym. Unironically they're doing arms everytime, but the point I'm trying to make is: even these kids want an edge over other males.

We can beat about the bush, talking about them doing it for "sports" or for "themselves", but at the end of the day. I KNOW, they're doing it in hopes of becoming more attractive in a foids' eyes.
How many kids in Highschool used to lift? Practically none, so if you came in very strong, you'd have an edge.
The sad thing is the blackpill is staring them right in the face.
One of their friends is tall. About 6'5 and he's still growing. He's lanky asf, and all his friends strength and size mog him.
Yet he's the only one amongst them that has a girlfriend.
Another one of their friends has the face of a chadlite and he too has a girlfriend. They've all watched him makeout/grope with a girl in front of their eyes: just watching.


I've gone off track.

It's over for many men. Society is also to blame for constantly telling men; they need to work on their bodies to stand a chance in getting a date.
Going to the gym just isn't enough when majority of the male population is going to the gym (unironically they're all manlets/ugly).
Tell me again that the guy at 1:09 (time stamp) and the lighter weight classes have "thick bones and nothing less".
>Sumo deadlifting.


JFL
 
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I was going to make a thread on this, but may as well post my views here.

Over the past 14 months of me training in the gym, I've seen kids as young as 13 lifting weights in the gym. Unironically they're doing arms everytime, but the point I'm trying to make is: even these kids want an edge over other males.

We can beat about the bush, talking about them doing it for "sports" or for "themselves", but at the end of the day. I KNOW, they're doing it in hopes of becoming more attractive in a foids' eyes.
How many kids in Highschool used to lift? Practically none, so if you came in very strong, you'd have an edge.
The sad thing is the blackpill is staring them right in the face.
One of their friends is tall. About 6'5 and he's still growing. He's lanky asf, and all his friends strength and size mog him.
Yet he's the only one amongst them that has a girlfriend.
Another one of their friends has the face of a chadlite and he too has a girlfriend. They've all watched him makeout/grope with a girl in front of their eyes: just watching.


I've gone off track.

It's over for many men. Society is also to blame for constantly telling men; they need to work on their bodies to stand a chance in getting a date.
Going to the gym just isn't enough when majority of the male population is going to the gym (unironically they're all manlets/ugly).

>Sumo deadlifting.


JFL
Its always strange to me that in everygroup there is always a tall guy with a girlfriend ..like height giving them super powers or something ..or is it the validation from girls that this guy is allowed to approach me .

Im saying that .. if the short guys going to parties can they still slay if thier look good... does those short guys ..even looking for a girlfriend in the first place ...if i have a short guy that look like zac efron and put him in tinder ... will he pull many matches as the 6 '5 dude .. i just want to go down to the buttom of the situations ..cuz we wouldnt be short if woman didnt like short guys in the first place ..so maybe there is some other reason beside sexual dimorphism ... maybe its an inferiority mindset that make the male think ..im worth less cuz he bigger then me ... maybe its becouse globalization mixing races ..we have diffrence in height and that messing with the natural order of things .. like a white dude walking to china he will be taller and apear stronger to females therefor they will breed with him .


What im trying to say here is if she wearing high heels for the date ..then by all means wear a timberland or lifts . LOL that it
 
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You also forgot about sleep and stress. Those are big factors as well.
Tell me again that the guy at 1:09 (time stamp) and the lighter weight classes have "thick bones and nothing less".

you're pointing to a guy who was winner of a weight class as an example of something?

you're pointing out an elite level exception?

really?
 
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Lol most guys at commercial gyms only do fluff and pump, dont know what theyre doing and are weak as shit. The average guy cant even deadlift 405 which is really pathetic. Real gyms like powerlifting gyms have actual strong guys who know what theyre doing.

Also gymceling wont help you ascend at ALL. Thinking other wise is cope. Face, Height and NT are EVERYTHING. Only do it if you actually enjoy it as a hobby.
It can bring a normie up to at least higher tier normie at best.

Also, powerlifters are always incels
We can beat about the bush, talking about them doing it for "sports" or for "themselves", but at the end of the day. I KNOW, they're doing it in hopes of becoming more attractive in a foids' eyes.
Dudes just can't admit to themselves. They can't admit they are the female equivalent of women who put on makeup "for themselves".
 
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It can bring a normie up to at least higher tier normie at best.

Also, powerlifters are always incels

Dudes just can't admit to themselves. They can't admit they are the female equivalent of women who put on makeup "for themselves".

But makeup does help for woman .. point of thought ..so ..maybe it will help a 5'7 manlet
 
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But makeup does help for woman .. point of thought ..so ..maybe it will help a 5'7 manlet
It won't. Unless you have God genes for it, which you probably won't.

As a manlet, going to the gym just looks cope as hell and makes vaginas drier than they even were. As a tallfag, you can benefit from it more but it's harder/near impossible to look good without doping. In most cases, you lose.

I only ever went to the gym when I was doing sports, for football and basketball. Mostly focused on lower for obvious reasons. Once that ended, I don't go as much because it's pointless.
 
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women feel the same way. in a world without adversity, they look for genetic markers of perceived fitness, nothing else
 
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Lol most guys at commercial gyms only do fluff and pump, dont know what theyre doing and are weak as shit. The average guy cant even deadlift 405 which is really pathetic. Real gyms like powerlifting gyms have actual strong guys who know what theyre doing.

Also gymceling wont help you ascend at ALL. Thinking other wise is cope. Face, Height and NT are EVERYTHING. Only do it if you actually enjoy it as a hobby.
The average guy cant deadlift 315lbs (srs).
 
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On one hand, being skinnyfat sucks, but I'm not gonna lie, I don't have the motivation to hit the gym. I take no pleasure from physical exercises and I know even a better body won't outweight my other flaws like height, face and lisping. The motivation that many men have: trying to ascend by improving their body simply isn't there for me because I have way too many bad traits holding me back.
 
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On one hand, being skinnyfat sucks, but I'm not gonna lie, I don't have the motivation to hit the gym. I take no pleasure from physical exercises and I know even a better body won't outweight my other flaws like height, face and lisping. The motivation that many men have: trying to ascend by improving their body simply isn't there for me because I have way too many bad traits holding me back.

Whats your height bro ?
 
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Gymmaxxing natty is a scam, the only way to get buff without high T is roids.
 
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I have no desire to exercise. I have no strength for it and i can't handle the pain. It won't change anything anyway.
Same here except i train at home, i REALLY hate the pain and being out of breath, i was thinking why suffer more for nothing at all? I'd still look like an unattractive retarded mongoloidcel. But after being sore you feel stronger, and after being out of breath, your cardio get better. It's those feeling of strength and self improvement that i like, even if i LDAR the majority of the time.
 
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i hit the gym and spend money on cratine glutamine ZMA try to ate more protein but i dont waste ,my time and push it hard it just cope for me
 
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But EVERY guy in his late teens and 20s lifts
Yes, but they suck at it, and you couldn't tell they do it by looking at them. Doesn't really matter though since face, height, and frame are king, queen and jack.

but i dont waste ,my time and push it hard
You're wasting your time by not pushing hard. It's the only way to force change.
 
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I would consider gymcelling if it was an environment that only buff Chads participated in, and you could get a leg up on the averages of society by doing so.

But EVERY guy in his late teens and 20s lifts. What's the point? You won't get a leg up on them body wise, you'd just catch up to them. Your appeal would go from 1.5% to 1.8%. A waste of time.

I wish I there was physical workouts that would be effective in losing weight so I can stop being a fatcel, but all that matters is food
Jup, you must give up the ungodly cope of eating unhealthy. Quite brutal to say the least.
If you don't gymmax these days as incel, your SMV actually ceases to exist.
 
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Whats your height bro ?
180cm. Not enough to be successful with women nowadays. Standards have gone up substantially and now being tall starts at 190cm. Women don't want mediocrity. Funny how better nutrition can change society. When the Iron Curtain fell, the average height among males was only 165cm here. Now it's creeping up to 180cm. In 30 years Poles on average grew up 15cm.
 
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Jup, you must give up the ungodly cope of eating unhealthy. Quite brutal to say the least.
If you don't gymmax these days as incel, your SMV actually ceases to exist.

Yes man ..you must go gymcelling to atleast look apealing for the escorts.. atleast show some empathy for the poor girl
180cm. Not enough to be successful with women nowadays. Standards have gone up substantially and now being tall starts at 190cm. Women don't want mediocrity. Funny how better nutrition can change society. When the Iron Curtain fell, the average height among males was only 165cm here. Now it's creeping up to 180cm. In 30 years Poles on average grew up 15cm.
180 cm ?! .. Gtfo with your fake ass bullshit .. height is not your problem .. its maybe your face or autism or something
.if you were 170cm like me so i understood ..but 180 !? .. its more then fine
 
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Lol most guys at commercial gyms only do fluff and pump, dont know what theyre doing and are weak as shit. The average guy cant even deadlift 405 which is really pathetic. Real gyms like powerlifting gyms have actual strong guys who know what theyre doing.

Also gymceling wont help you ascend at ALL. Thinking other wise is cope. Face, Height and NT are EVERYTHING. Only do it if you actually enjoy it as a hobby.
Yeah agree with this i do calisthenics at home as i just enjoy it. Gymcel wont affect ur smv lol
 
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Diet, a great sleep schedule and going 4-5 days a week can separate you from the pack. The average gym goer has a diet and sleeping habits that cancel out potential gains
 
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Yeah agree with this i do calisthenics at home as i just enjoy it. Gymcel wont affect ur smv lol
Yeah anyone who thinks Gymceling affects SMV is coping hardcore
Diet, a great sleep schedule and going 4-5 days a week can separate you from the pack. The average gym goer has a diet and sleeping habits that cancel out potential gains
Cope its all about face, being NT and height. A guy who deadlifts 600+ with a good physique will still be incel if his face and height arent good enough. Foids only care about the stuff you cant change.
 
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Yes, but they suck at it, and you couldn't tell they do it by looking at them. Doesn't really matter though since face, height, and frame are king, queen and jack.


You're wasting your time by not pushing hard. It's the only way to force change.
i dont want that type o
Yes, but they suck at it, and you couldn't tell they do it by looking at them. Doesn't really matter though since face, height, and frame are king, queen and jack.


You're wasting your time by not pushing hard. It's the only way to force change.
i need only 2 -3 kg of lean mass do not want to be BIG all of the gym is full of INCELs and some 6-7 foids but the gym is 24/7 one i go when no ppl are there one incel smells rly bad one day this is so nasty
 
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Yeah anyone who thinks Gymceling affects SMV is coping hardcore

Cope its all about face, being NT and height. A guy who deadlifts 600+ with a good physique will still be incel if his face and height arent good enough. Foids only care about the stuff you cant change.
Well to be fair being able to be lean athletic build is somewhat genetic ..and you cant change it without using chemicals or other stuff , so natural athletic people are gifted - geneticlly
 
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Look bro, here's some copefuel from a soldier. An Infantry one at that. You calculate your basal metabolic rate, and eat 250-500 calories less than that. Due to your weight, your body has a fuck ton of muscle thats needed to support your already hefty weight. When you lose weight, by literally doing nothing , you'll lose a little muscle. Guess what though, you'll be jacked as shit. You might be weak because your muscle density is poor, but your muscle bellies will be big as fuck bro. It might take a few months or a year to lose that weight though (0.5-2lbs/week) but you do that shit.brother
 
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Well to be fair ...being able to be lean athletic build is ...somewhat genetic ..and you cant change it without using chemicals or other stuff ...so natural athletic people are gifted - geneticlly
But toilets still care about face, race & height way more. Physique is like a 0.0001 SMV boster. Its basically nothing.
 
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Yes man ..you must go gymcelling to atleast look apealing for the escorts.. atleast show some empathy for the poor girl
Don't worry about her, she'll charge you double if you don't.
180cm. Not enough to be successful with women nowadays. Standards have gone up substantially and now being tall starts at 190cm. Women don't want mediocrity. Funny how better nutrition can change society. When the Iron Curtain fell, the average height among males was only 165cm here. Now it's creeping up to 180cm. In 30 years Poles on average grew up 15cm.
180cm can definitely be a negative depending on where you're from.

I'm barely over 180 with shoes on, and it's a literal death sentence as ethnic in western Europe.
 
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Yeah anyone who thinks Gymceling affects SMV is coping hardcore
what kind of deception level coping is this? It might not matter to blackpilled women, but it sure does to blue/redpilled ones.
 
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But toilets still care about face, race & height way more. Physique is like a 0.0001 SMV boster. Its basically nothing.
Listen , your 5'8 its not tall but its a workable height .. btw im 5'7 ( i can be roughly 5'8 with timberland ) ..we are not tall but we are not midgets also , i will argue that most of our problems stem from lack of NT ..lets face it bro they turned us into autists .. now we can try to minimize the effects of lack of NT by hitting the gym ..by wearing tall shoes , grow beard , and then we have to find a social circle ( which is almost impossible if you pass collage without friends ) ... so at least give yourself a slack be honest .. is this realy realy your height That stoping you or do you feel that its something else also ?
 
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did arnold shwartzanigger say its better than sex or something
he said finishing it is like orgasming too. In the same documentary i saw him say t that in an interviewer asked him what he thought about his training partner franco columbo, a manlet, and he compared him to something like a child. nearly couldn’t see him the same again
 
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Gymcelling is only worthwhile if you have a good foundation to build on.

You can't polish a turd boyos.
 
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Listen , your 5'8 its not tall but its a workable height .. btw im 5'7 ( i can be roughly 5'8 with timberland ) ..we are not tall but we are not midgets also , i will argue that most of our problems stem from lack of NT ..lets face it bro they turned us into autists .. now we can try to minimize the effects of lack of NT by hitting the gym ..by wearing tall shoes , grow beard , and then we have to find a social circle ( which is almost impossible if you pass collage without friends ) ... so at least give yourself a slack be honest .. is this realy realy your height That stoping you or do you feel that its something else also ?
Dude I was literally diagnosed with autism when I was an infant/toddler (1-4 years old I think). My parents did everything they could to make me less autistic. There is no "socially inforced autism" from me. No, its real, brain neurological disorder autism. Not this "oh im introvert so im autistic" bullshit that normies say. Its real. I also have a fucked up face as well.
5'8 its not tall but its a workable height
Turbo cope tbh. If we arent at least 6'1" toilets wont even look in our direction.
Also all that social circle, wearing tall shoes, growing bear (I already have a chin beard) etc etc all sounds like redpill BS no offense. I'm an ugly autistic manlet and I will never be able to change those 3 factors. All I can do is cope by trying to reach my arbitrary strength standards.
 
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Lol it's ridiculous. Around 2013 the idea of "the gym" really fucking started to take off and now literally every guy you meet goes.
Around 2013, just when the idea of Tinder started to take off. No coincidence, I assume.
 
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I dont care what foid think , i got it my genes to being able to develop muscles .( .big muscles ) without any supplements or steroids also i dont need to be more framer cuz i got the frame even if im short (5'7) i whould maximize my body potential to the limit and will become a natural elite , and then ..then you have to sell yourself the right way - good pictures with good angles , good fit cloths , etc ....you know what the most difficult thing for me ..you know what fucked me over so bad ... the lack of social skills - which is ironic cuz its the result of my uglyness and lack of positive feedback ..that the real issue of many incels , we all dead inside
 
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