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I escortcel sometimes. It is always the same kind of girls: Russians, Ukrainians ...
i am catholic and i have no real interest in escorts,but i get tempted a lot to just give up on everything,travel somewhere to fornicate and then maybe rope or throw myself in some ditch and lie down till i die. i don't want to betray god,but when the pain comes the mind numbs,and man this is a lot of pain.


obviously god always gives enough graces for man to never sin,so if such a thing happened,it would be purely my fault.saying this,in case some random degenerate excuses degeneracy with some fatalistic philosophy like many people i have seen.

i don't think i will last for much longer.if i survive for two-three more years i would be amazed.i will be going backhome in hopes of things getting a bit better,but i don't know. my life is a mess.feelings to rope returned a few months ago,despite them being gone for a long long time,and i feel much calmer and much more acceptive of it,which is incredibly scary.this life is hell
 
i am catholic and i have no real interest in escorts,but i get tempted a lot to just give up on everything,travel somewhere to fornicate and then maybe rope or throw myself in some ditch and lie down till i die. i don't want to betray god,but when the pain comes the mind numbs,and man this is a lot of pain.

obviously god always gives enough graces for man to never sin,so if such a thing happened,it would be purely my fault.saying this,in case some random degenerate excuses degeneracy with some fatalistic philosophy like many people i have seen.

i don't think i will last for much longer.if i survive for two-three more years i would be amazed.i will be going backhome in hopes of things getting a bit better,but i don't know. my life is a mess.feelings to rope returned a few months ago,despite them being gone for a long long time,and i feel much calmer and much more acceptive of it,which is incredibly scary.this life is hell
Ok, if you are still a believing catholic enough to be afraid God will be angry at you if you escortcel, you got one last chance to really make something out of your life.

Why don't you become a monk? I really love Christian monastic history and literature. Did you try to read John Cassian or the rule of Saint Benedict? I get a sense that these guys knew how hard it was to escape foid worship and they really did everything they could to make it easier for novices to escape it. There are still reasonably active monasteries in all catholic countries. I think you should try that (at least for a retreat at first, and maybe as an oblate if they don't want you full time)
 
Ok, if you are still a believing catholic enough to be afraid God will be angry at you if you escortcel, you got one last chance to really make something out of your life.

Why don't you become a monk? I really love Christian monastic history and literature. Did you try to read John Cassian or the rule of Saint Benedict? I get a sense that these guys knew how hard it was to escape foid worship and they really did everything they could to make it easier for novices to escape it. There are still reasonably active monasteries in all catholic countries. I think you should try that (at least for a retreat at first, and maybe as an oblate if they don't want you full time)
becoming an oblate would be something i would be incredibly interested in if there was a monastery nearby,but i don't think the monastic life is for me.i could live with the monks for a while,but i don't think it would change my view on what my vocation is. though spending some time with them might help me with my issues though,so it's a good idea to at least spend some time there.

i have read the rule of saint of benedict and a other works made by monks,so i find monastic history pretty great.the thing is,these monks were tempted,but they all seemed to know that deep down they were supposed to be monks.deep down i feel like i was made to have a family.sure i am tempted to just fornicate,but having a family and a wife is what feels like the right thing.sure the monastic life is the most perfect form of life to give to god,but at the end of the day,god wants a lot of people to live a married life,and each man was made to do what god wanted them to do and not the other way around.if i could choose my life,i sure as shit would have never picked this hell.


this going backhome is my only chance.i have been thinking about trying to get a call center job in a western country so that i could easily move to somewhere else that is incredibly cheap and where i might find a decent catholic girl(most of geomaxxing is for sure a sin,but in a few cases it seems acceptable to my mind).so i got maybe 2 chances.eitherway,it's probably all cope,but not like i have much.the sad part is that i have an oneitis,but i know that could never go anywhere,so i have to try my best to forget about her.
 
becoming an oblate would be something i would be incredibly interested in if there was a monastery nearby,but i don't think the monastic life is for me.i could live with the monks for a while,but i don't think it would change my view on what my vocation is. though spending some time with them might help me with my issues though,so it's a good idea to at least spend some time there.

i have read the rule of saint of benedict and a other works made by monks,so i find monastic history pretty great.the thing is,these monks were tempted,but they all seemed to know that deep down they were supposed to be monks.deep down i feel like i was made to have a family.sure i am tempted to just fornicate,but having a family and a wife is what feels like the right thing.sure the monastic life is the most perfect form of life to give to god,but at the end of the day,god wants a lot of people to live a married life,and each man was made to do what god wanted them to do and not the other way around.if i could choose my life,i sure as shit would have never picked this hell.


this going backhome is my only chance.i have been thinking about trying to get a call center job in a western country so that i could easily move to somewhere else that is incredibly cheap and where i might find a decent catholic girl(most of geomaxxing is for sure a sin,but in a few cases it seems acceptable to my mind).so i got maybe 2 chances.eitherway,it's probably all cope,but not like i have much.the sad part is that i have an oneitis,but i know that could never go anywhere,so i have to try my best to forget about her.
Ok, first of all, I don't think that the monastic vocation was ever about the person but much more about the time they lived in. Look at Saint Anthony. He basically ran away from his life in Egypt because in those times (like today) depravity was overwhelming. Christianity had become the official religion of the Roman Empire but Christians were a minority and even among nominal Christians, sin was rife.

So, Saint Anthony ran away from sinful influence. That was his vocation. For St Benedict it was the same and for many others also. Today, we are back to square one. Our world is the same whorehouse that Alexandria, Rome or Antioch were are the time of the Desert Fathers. When the whore of Babylon has turned your city into Sodom and Gomorrah, what other choice do you have but to flee to the desert? The monastery is the refuge for those who are conscious enough to recognize that the great foid goddess is in triumph mode at the moment. Of course, this triumph will not last. But believers need a temporary refuge in the meantime.

Don't spoil for a fight you cannot win. There are no "good catholic girls" at the moment. The Church is run by faggot cliques (according to none other than Benedict XVI). What do you think so called "catholic" families are? I am not saying that the Church is finished. It experienced bad periods before (have you ever heard about the "pornocratia" in the 8th-9th century?) and recovered from them. But for the moment, I don't think there are many safe places for believers apart from in solitude away from sinful man.
 
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what a terrible place to live, i can't wait to move from here.
i am going to visit UK and Guernsey the following August. I think it is a nice place, even if every place is hell if you are an incel. Today thanks to globalization everywhere women reject ugly men.
 
Ok, first of all, I don't think that the monastic vocation was ever about the person but much more about the time they lived in. Look at Saint Anthony. He basically ran away from his life in Egypt because in those times (like today) depravity was overwhelming. Christianity had become the official religion of the Roman Empire but Christians were a minority and even among nominal Christians, sin was rife.

So, Saint Anthony ran away from sinful influence. That was his vocation. For St Benedict it was the same and for many others also. Today, we are back to square one. Our world is the same whorehouse that Alexandria, Rome or Antioch were are the time of the Desert Fathers. When the whore of Babylon has turned your city into Sodom and Gomorrah, what other choice do you have but to flee to the desert? The monastery is the refuge for those who are conscious enough to recognize that the great foid goddess is in triumph mode at the moment. Of course, this triumph will not last. But believers need a temporary refuge in the meantime.

Don't spoil for a fight you cannot win. There are no "good catholic girls" at the moment. The Church is run by faggot clique (according to none other than Benedict XVI). What do you think so called "catholic" families are. I am not saying that the Church is finished. It experienced bad periods before (have you ever heard about the "pornocratia" in the 8th-9th century?) and recovered from them. But for the moment, I don't think there are many safe places for believers apart from in solitude away from sinful man.
i mean,there is an obvious difference on how we see the monastic life.catholics see the monastic life as a vocation that god chooses for certain men and women,and not just a question of time or culture or anything.it's true though that many monks ran away to the desert to avoid many temptations that would have otherwise occured had they remained in the cities.saint augustine thought he had to marry due to his huge lust,but eventually he decided that was not for him.i doubt i will be him though.


on the question of good catholic girls.yes most of them are whores in disguise.if you are not married by the time you are 25 as a women in the catholic church,you are 99% a huge whore who is simply too proud to marry your local virtuous catholic.even if you are a virgin you are still a huge whore,since there is really no difference since even whores withhold on who they can have sex with for prideful reasons.sure there are some reasons as to a why a women won't be married by that age,but those are incredibly few.


but i have also seen in church couples where the couple is looksmatched and where the female radiates happiness even if her husband/fiance is a gremlin compared to other guys around.sure they could be bpd or have some trauma which leads them to dating down(i have seen a few examples of both),but as long as the girl isn't bpd,the marriage could actually be incredibly fruitful.now these couples are few,but they exist.eitherway, there are more men then women,and women are way more degenerate then men,so no one can really cope by simply seeing these couples.these women are pipedreams,not something any reasonable man can hope for.

The purpose of marriage is primarily to serve god,and such a thing can only really be done with a catholic women,so it's not like i have much of an option but hope for such a unicorn,even if they barely exist.the catholic church will withstand till the end of time,so that's not something i am worried about. i am not wishing for a fight i can't win.i was just given a bunch of cards which makes 99.999999% of anything on earth very hard to do.it also doesn't help that i have noticed a noticable cognitive decline over the years due to depression.even my memory is a mess now.it wasn't like this before.

it's pretty much over.
 
I mean from what I’ve read and seen of them. Bad geography, bluepilled shitholes, lots of social norms, autism, giganormified places. Both protestant as well.
Lived in Germany for several years — holy shit I thought the USA was bluepilled and gynocentric. Germany takes the same woke leftist retardation and amplifies it to 11. At least in the USA you can find occasionally some normal sods that don’t drink the koolaid.
 
it's much worse then that.men in london live like a brave new world dystopia.actually they live much worse.every man just wakes up to work like a slave to then go home,to jack off to porn and then goes to sleep again.i guess he goes to the pub on the weekends with his other friends living an equally horrible life to numb the pain.at the end of their drinking excursions,they go back to their rooms the size of your average closet backhome.men live like bugs here.
Accurate to a T — sadly this is how it is for most young men in the USA as well. Especially in cities.

The unspoken truth is men are just expected to carry the burden of propping up society with their tax dollars, slaving their lives away, and for what?

Without enforced monogamy and with the government being how it is now (which became that way in large part because women can now vote I would bet) women get to coast and take a much easier path, banging who they want within reason, they can work or not work it’s a real choice. Men almost never get that choice.

Also if you’re an able bodied man good luck getting welfare in lots of places in the US — women can get welfare far far easier.
 
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I escortcel sometimes. It is always the same kind of girls: Russians, Ukrainians ...
For me the issues I run up against for whores are:
1) it’s illegal where I live so I don’t wanna get busted
2) without being legal there’s no regulation so none of these women are being vetted for STDs, there’s no fall back if you catch something from them.

In the end I just wank due to those reasons — well, that and the cost is hilariously overpriced.

Women think having sex with someone is worth the moon lol.
 
For me the issues I run up against for whores are:
1) it’s illegal where I live so I don’t wanna get busted
2) without being legal there’s no regulation so none of these women are being vetted for STDs, there’s no fall back if you catch something from them.

In the end I just wank due to those reasons — well, that and the cost is hilariously overpriced.

Women think having sex with someone is worth the moon lol.
Believe me, being married, or just having a gf is far pricier.

In Europe and Dubai, it is ok. It is legal and girls are good. Often student part-timers.
 
One thing that sucks about brexit for UKcels is now they can't just immigrate to a place like the Netherlands and drugmaxx since pretty much every drug in the Netherlands is legal and most EU countries don't care about customs from people coming from another European country

What is the source of your avi?

UK was always a dreary, blue collar island. The foids are the worse.
 
Visited the UK a few years back, the entire country is pure suifuel
 
Believe me, being married, or just having a gf is far pricier.

In Europe and Dubai, it is ok. It is legal and girls are good. Often student part-timers.
Good to know, thanks mate
 
i mean,there is an obvious difference on how we see the monastic life.catholics see the monastic life as a vocation that god chooses for certain men and women,and not just a question of time or culture or anything.
That is what most Catholics say TODAY. But remember, we are at an all time low in piety and the Church is being run by sodomites. What I am telling you is that this is not how the Church viewed the monastic vocation in better times. In the middle ages, When the Church was run by saints like Gregory the great (who wrote the vita of St Benedict) Catholics viewed the monastic vocation as something men did to escape Satan whenever they needed to. Read John Cassian on the monastic vocation, you will see.

but i have also seen in church couples where the couple is looksmatched and where the female radiates happiness even if her husband/fiance is a gremlin compared to other guys around.sure they could be bpd or have some trauma which leads them to dating down(i have seen a few examples of both),but as long as the girl isn't bpd,the marriage could actually be incredibly fruitful.now these couples are few,but they exist.eitherway, there are more men then women,and women are way more degenerate then men,so no one can really cope by simply seeing these couples.these women are pipedreams,not something any reasonable man can hope for.

The purpose of marriage is primarily to serve god,and such a thing can only really be done with a catholic women,so it's not like i have much of an option but hope for such a unicorn,even if they barely exist.
You have to be careful to protect yourself from idolatrous temptations. Christians today think that sin is mostly fornication and they have forgotten the First commandment.

Foid worship is real. The whore of Babylon was not primarily a fornicator (although she was that too). She was a Babylonian goddess whose high priestess had sex once a year with the king (i.e. the top Chad). As you rightly point out, a woman can be chaste in the flesh and yet be a whore spiritually BECAUSE SHE GOES AFTER OTHER GODS (like Israel of old). Don't overestimate your capacity to resist idolatrous temptation. A marriage can be a Temple of Idols if you worship your wife and lets her worship her "household gods" (like Rachel did). The church will not help you avoid this pitfall because it is run by faggots. The priests will actually push you in that direction, to your death. Only in solitude will you be safe.

Trust the Fathers and the Saints of old. Not the Church of today.
 
That is what most Catholics say TODAY. But remember, we are at an all time low in piety and the Church is being run by sodomites. What I am telling you is that this is not how the Church viewed the monastic vocation in better times. In the middle ages, When the Church was run by saints like Gregory the great (who wrote the vita of St Benedict) Catholics viewed the monastic vocation as something men did to escape Satan whenever they needed to. Read John Cassian on the monastic vocation, you will see.


You have to be careful to protect yourself from idolatrous temptations. Christians today think that sin is mostly fornication and they have forgotten the First commandment.

Foid worship is real. The whore of Babylon was not primarily a fornicator (although she was that too). She was a Babylonian goddess whose high priestess had sex once a year with the king (i.e. the top Chad). As you rightly point out, a woman can be chaste in the flesh and yet be a whore spiritually BECAUSE SHE GOES AFTER OTHER GODS (like Israel of old). Don't overestimate your capacity to resist idolatrous temptation. A marriage can be a Temple of Idols if you worship your wife and lets her worship her "household gods" (like Rachel did). The church will not help you avoid this pitfall because it is run by faggots. The priests will actually push you in that direction, to your death. Only in solitude will you be safe.

Trust the Fathers and the Saints of old. Not the Church of today.
many saints of old approved of marriage,and in some saying of the desert fathers,you would sometimes hear of men who are in the "world" who are going to heaven unlike many of their monk brothers. also the catholic church has had 2000 years of thought put into the question of how to best serve god,and throughout it marriage and celibacy have always lived together as both paths possible to achieve salvation.saint elizabeth and saint zachariah(the parents of saint john the baptist) were married and became saints and so have many other couples.that couple in fact,was there since the beginning. i know the question of which one is better and easier,is a great topic of contention even amongst more zealous catholics,but i don't think there is much point on discussing it here and i am honestly tired of it.talking about marriage as an incel is brutal.


there are many commamdents that a catholic forgets(even good meaning ones i imagine).it is true that some catholic men are complete cucks(some even comteplate marrying random thots and even satanists just because they gave them an ounce of attention).not all of our clergy is completely irredeamble,but most are,luckily we have catholic tradition,so if one wants to seek the truth,one won't be "lost".if one is to marry,he should know what type of women he is marrying,and he should know his role in marriage.considering in marriage,two becomes ones,one has to seriously consider the well being of his other half,and most cucks regard wellbeing and being a complete stupid simp,as the same thing.


also thanks for reminding me of saint cassian,since i like reading about the desert fathers,and stupidly haven't read anything from him yet(i clicked some random key in my keyboard and caused this underline thing sorry)

curious,how did you end up in india? i would probably live in sicily if i had a lot of money.
 
many saints of old approved of marriage,and in some saying of the desert fathers,you would sometimes hear of men who are in the "world" who are going to heaven unlike many of their monk brothers.
Of course. The Church never rejected marriage as such, no more than Saint Paul did. I am just saying that marriage is especially dangerous AT THIS JUNCTURE because of foid worship. Everyone thinks the danger is fornication, while in fact it is idolatry.

also the catholic church has had 2000 years of thought put into the question of how to best serve god,and throughout it marriage and celibacy have always lived together as both paths possible to achieve salvation.
In general yes. But in particular periods, things may be different. I am ready to believe that at certain periods, only monks were real Christians, while at others none were and married people were.

saint elizabeth and saint zachariah(the parents of saint john the baptist) were married and became saints and so have many other couples.that couple in fact,was there since the beginning.
Different times

i know the question of which one is better and easier,is a great topic of contention even amongst more zealous catholics,but i don't think there is much point on discussing it here
It is pointless if you try to solve the dilemma once and for all. It can't be done. However, in a given situation, I think that it can be solved

and i am honestly tired of it. talking about marriage as an incel is brutal.
This is because you are being tempted by Satan. Depression, etc comes from him. What you must understand is that his temptation to you is not fornication. That is what he wants you to believe because it will distract you from the real threat, which is idolatry. I know it is difficult for a Catholic to take idolatry seriously, but remember, we have come full circle and are now back in the same world the Desert Fathers lived: a mainly pagan world.

also thanks for reminding me of saint cassian
Yes. He is really great. Some people accused him of Semi-Pelagianism but it is nonsense due to Church politics.

You may be interested to know that I visited the shrine of the Ste Baume, near Marseille, where Cassian created a priory staffed by monks from his main St Victor monastery. One interesting fact about this priory is that it was created at the mouth of a cave (which is what "baume" means in old Southern French) which was formerly a sanctuary to Venus. As you see, Cassian himself (like many early Saints) fought the great foid goddess whenever he encountered her. Catholic tradition remembers that but does not emphasises it enough. You can guess why easily ...
 
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Of course. The Church never rejected marriage as such, no more than Saint Paul did. I am just saying that marriage is especially dangerous AT THIS JUNCTURE because of foid worship. Everyone thinks the danger is fornication, while in fact it is idolatry.


In general yes. But in particular periods, things may be different. I am ready to believe that at certain periods, only monks were real Christians, while at others none were and married people were.


Different times


It is pointless if you try to solve the dilemma once and for all. It can't be done. However, in a given situation, I think that it can be solved


This is because you are being tempted by Satan. Depression, etc comes from him. What you must understand is that his temptation to you is not fornication. That is what he wants you to believe because it will distract you from the real threat, which is idolatry. I know it is difficult for a Catholic to take idolatry seriously, but remember, we have come full circle and are now back in the same world the Desert Fathers lived: a mainly pagan world.


Yes. He is really great. Some people accused him of Semi-Pelagianism but it is nonsense due to Church politics.

You may be interested to know that I visited the shrine of the Ste Baume, near Marseille, where Cassian created a priory staffed by monks from his main St Victor monastery. One interesting fact about this priory is that it was created at the mouth of a cave (which is what "baume" means in old Southern French) which was formerly a sanctuary to Venus. As you see, Cassian himself (like many early Saints) fought the great foid goddess whenever he encountered her. Catholic tradition remembers that but does not emphasises it enough. You can guess why easily ...
men were always complete cucks for women,and sure most men are complete cucks towards their wives.if marriage is what needs to be done,then christ will give you all the graces necessary to do what you must do.i understand the worry,but then there are also a million other worries just as worrisome.it's impossible to live life in complete fear.complete fear will always lead to inaction,and that's arguably even worse.



it's cools that you have visited shrines of saints.sometimes i think about leaving everything and doing a pilgramage.
 
who cares tho you can get drugs in England just fine. and you wouldn’t go to jail for it unless you have intent to sell/distribute
UK has decriminalized drugs? No wonder all the niggers and ethnics love it there! :smonk:
 

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