TBH even this mogs me a girl would never smile and laugh to begin with
but if she somehow did because we shared interests and I managed to be uncreepy and charming
this would happen eventually if I tried to do anything remotely romantic
SuicideFuel this is probably the best rapport I can ever expect to have with a girl
TBH even this mogs me a girl would never smile and laugh to begin with
but if she somehow did because we shared interests and I managed to be uncreepy and charming
this would happen eventually if I tried to do anything remotely romantic
Girls like this don't exist. I know you already know this, but i feel the need to point this out.
Hopefully they dont add any SJW feminist girl power garbage.
the big hero 6 pill destroyed me
Was waiting for Chad to come out and scoop her away
Why are you watching shit like this? This is prime suifuel tho
in fairness I did selectively present that scene out of context: Olivia actually reacts negatively when she finds out Fred's surname because her cousin badmouths that family so she was misinformed. Later she changes her opinion and accepts a date to watch a manga monster mash with him, but a happy ending like that doesn't meme well for echochamber suifuel purposes. It makes me feel good to see but I also recognized it's unlikely bluepill stuff which would get mocked
I consider suifuel a challenge. If you spend too much effort avoiding suifuel you can't build up a tolerance and are vulnerable to your emotions. Avoiding suifuel is cowardly and leads to the type of sheltered instability that makes guys rope.
TBH this is why I also will occasionally read netorare/cuck manga. Not because I'm aroused by Chad stealing girls but just to build up a tolerance for reality. Porn or fiction in general is not merely for the purpose of cooming or making yourself feel good.
That said: I do have a sense of pride in confronting things that make me feel uncomfortable, so it does sorta make me feel good, or at least I get a mix of pride which offsets whatever drawbacks some mediums have.
It's kind of like watching horror films to build up your tolerance to fear or gore. If you're like some soyboy/typifoid who can't even watch those due to being squeamish then real scenarios are near-guaranteed to end you. That's not to say that fiction guarantees you'll be immune to IRL pressures but I think it at least helps because you're dealing with ideas in a safe space as opposed to never dealing with them until it's too real to process.
Hard to say where the line is drawn for that.
The Jesse/Nitz relationship is kinda complicated because (it's been 20 years so TBH it doesn't feel like a spoiler, especially since we haven't had a 'true end' for it)
1) Parker "Nitz" Walsh for majority of series ignored Jessie (surname unknown, maybe movie will reveal?) as a romantic prospect due to constantly oneitising over Kimmy Burton
2) though you can't exactly blame him because Jessie acted like Nitz was friendzoned, if she was trying to express attraction to him it was incredibly subtle
3) there was that one episode where they were roommates and Nitz forgot about Kimmy after Jessie dropped her towel and he started singing to her and acting jealous about her other male friends and shit.
TBH it's hard to blame Jessie for getting weirded out about that since the prime reason his attitude shifted was seeing her tits by accident, plus he was getting possessive/jealous even though she hadn't actually made any overt signalling that they were a couple.
4) then you have the finale where Jessie decides to invite Nitz to spend the final night together and he ghosts her to look after Kimmy instead. Kind of a shit move since while Kimmy isn't evil or anything, Jessie had definitely been a better friend to Nitz than Kimmy.
That said: Jessie had overtly signalled to Nitz he was in the friend zone after he overtly approached her, so it stands to reason that he's going to interpret any "let's spend time together" as "friend time" not "romance time", so Jessie should only feel abandoned as a FRIEND, not romantically rejected. She doesn't really have grounds to be jealous about Nitz's romantic hopes for Kimmy since she never reciprocated them the time he offered them, or made an overt gesture about that being a possibility.
Nitz had never overtly approached Kimmy so she had never overtly rejected him (even though he obviously has negligible chances: he's 99% bluepilled and doesn't realize) so it's completely moral for him to be prioritizing her as a romantic prospect.
His other male friends would understand that: they know Nitz pines for Kimmy and wants to prioritize even a slim chance: Nitz hangs with all of them (and even Jessie) 10x as much as he hangs with Kimmy so priortiizing Kimmy-time on final day is something empathizable and forgiveable, even if he ghosts an invite.
The reason Jessie is more pissed/dismissive than Gimpy/Rocko/Cal (hell does Cal ever hold a grudge?) is because she actually wanted to give him a pityfuck or something and HOW DARE HE not pick up on that, or even if he did: reject that for a chance of a pityfuck from Kimmy?
( I mean yeah: Nitz's male friends get pissed at him too for ditching them for Kimmy, but it's definitely not to the same degree. )
Also they really should have some more empathy there: Cal gets laid all the time (he's a ditzy gigachad archtype of sorts) while Gimpy has that ex-GF hacker Tabitha (SHE PRIME) so he got some fulfillment during his college days, which mogs Nitz to hell because he NEVER got even an online relationship.
Rocko seems like he ogre-maxes enough that he's able to escort-max, he's probably the closest to understanding Nitz since he doesn't seem to have ever had had romantic reciprocation. That's probably partly his fault (acts in a sexist way that'd be called misogynist by many) though I expect due to his looks he could've been rejected a lot earlier in life and built an asshole persona so that he doesn't have to be vulnerable to rejection: women are just bitches so who cares if they reject him, right? By being a jerk and making women react hostile to him and then blaming the women, he avoids giving value to their disapproval. He doesn't hold hopes of love: just tries to see tits or get pussy and get drunk.
As for Jessie's ability to empathize: the way she's spoken of sex makes it seem like she's a non-virgin who has had romantic partners in the past. Unless she was BSing and is some kind of top-secret virgin, her ability to understand Nitz's loneliness has it's limitations. Out of all the show's foids she probably knows him the best, but if she knew him better she would've been more assertive in making her romantic wishes with him known.
Something like
"hey Nitz, you know how you were attracted to me and I rejected you for being too clingy and it was bad timing since we were roommates and you were horny after seeing me naked?"
"well, now that we live apart again and things have cooled down: I'd like to tell you I'm attracted to you Nitz"
"so I'd like us to spend our final night at college enjoying each other's company"
If Jessie had done that, it seems very possibly Nitz would've stopped orbitting Kimmie and refocused on Jessie.
Jessie is probably shy in a way about her emotions: she acts like a tough girl who DGAF and mocks Nitz for being pathetic, so actually admitting she values him as a romantic prospect would be hard for her. She would have to frame it as a "spontaneous pity fuck" or something to keep her ego intact.
In a way that's kinda cute TBH because I love tsunderes. That's why I can't hate her for her finale tantrum @ Nitz, because the tantrums are part of tsundere cuteness. At least she FEELS something for Nitz, CARES about who he has feelings for. Kimmy Burton just keeps dating a series of Chads and lets Nitz hold back her hair while she vomits up the free alcohol her orbiters supply her. Kimmy's never been overtly rude to Nitz but she does have a subtle rudeness about her in how dismissive she is of Nitz's feelings for her.
Nitz's feelings are glaringly obvious to everyone so it's hard to believe Kimmy doesn't notice them, even if she is painted as kind of a ditz who might not pick up on subtle cues. I guess it's kind of similar situations now that I think about it though...
1) Nitz hides 90% of his romantic feelings for Kimmy from Kimmy, who can only perceive 10% of subtle cues so she only picks up on 1% of that conveyed 10%
2) Jessie hides 98% of her romantic feelings for Nitz from Nitz, who can only perceive 50% of subtle cues so he only picks up on 1% of that conveyed 2%
In the end you have a pair of obtuse people who might possibly have not perceived they have an alternative romantic prospect (in the friendzone) under their nose the entire time.
You also have a pair of obtuse people who might possibly have not perceived that they were not being clear enough in their feelings towards the person they want a relationship.
Nitz, being at the center of the triangle, just happens to be in both pairs.
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