Stacies in other countries like in Eastern Europe or Turkey or Middle East or whatever are honest about loving muscles, because being attracted to a strong muscular man is tied to the female primitive instinct.
I live in Serbia. We're about the most primitive and patriarchal Europeans there are.
And I don't go by what women say but by what they do. I go by what kind of guys I see them hooking up with. I know hundreds of guys with awesome bodies and I know who they (or don't) hook up with.
Everything I've written so far relates to incels. If you're not used to be the ugliest guy in the room then maybe you're a just normie who's had some bad luck. Of course most guys who lift are going to get laid. Most guys who don't lift get laid. Most overweight guys get laid too.
As incels we're the bottom 10% or the bottom 5%. That's a lot of ugly to overcome.
It's not like preferring a skinny frame, because females aren't biologically inclined to be sexually attracted to a skinny guy.
And where do you get the idea that females are biologically inclined to be attracted to muscles? If that were the case, we wouldn't need to exercise to grow muscles, they'd grow spontaneously like the tail on a peacock. Lifting just sends a signal that the muscles need to grow, otherwise our bodies will keep them to a bare minimum, which would never be the case if our survival and reproduction depended on them even slightly.
Most Stacies in the developed world will say they want an equal partnership, but they would fuck the next dominant man that comes along.
It doesn't matter what they say, I never take that into account.
Having a muscular body increases your rating no matter how you want to twist it.
There is no
rating, it's not a test or a form where you tick boxes. Mate selection is series of hurdles. Your face disgusts her? Next. Too short? Next. Hooking up with you would lower her social status? Next.
So yeah, if the guy passes these three hurdles, then yeah, muscles might play a role but that guy was never incel to begin with and so isn't applicable to us.
Even for the Stacies that aren't that much into muscle, having a muscular body means that you're at least working on something and have a life unlike the pathetic puny framecel that signals years of rotting away in his parent's basement.
Having a good body is better than having a shit body, but for incels looking to escape inceldom it won't make any difference.
Your body probably looks like shit or you're still too skinny. 8 years means nothing if you don't eat right. Just because you failed at what you do or didn't even want to be big doesn't mean that gymceling doesn't work.
As I said, guys are complimenting me all the time and asking for workout advice. Girls don't give a shit. I've never had a girl give me a compliment on my body; the best I got was snarky comments that I probably live in the gym.
And besides, I don't go by my experience (which is subjective and the sample size is 1) but by the hundreds of guys with awesome bodies I've known over the years. As I said, most of them get laid but most guys who don't lift get laid too.
If you're ugly, women are as likely to be attracted to your muscles as they're likely to be attracted to a dog's muscles.
The reason I'm triggered by this is I've been on this journey. My body was maybe top 1% of guys my age (not any more, hard to be on point when you've got no motivation) and it didn't make a difference. I'd walk through Belgrade for hours and not one out of hundreds of girls I'd pass by would ever give me eye contact. I'd see girls with skinny guys and inwardly rage "Why the fuck is she with him? My forearm is thicker than his thigh!"
I'd see girls with fat guys and think "Why the fuck is she with him? He's got more fat on his neck than I have on my entire body!"
But most of the guys I see with girls are tall and lean and their faces are good looking. And gyms are full of guys like that except they also have muscles. The competition is just too hard and there's no prize for 10th place.
