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Very disappointed at the state of Catholicism, it's much worse than I could even imagine

Teutonic Knight

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I've been away for some time to "religionmaxx" as you would say here. Here are some of my observations about the state of the modern Catholic church. It is very depressing.

The main observation is this: the Catholic Church in the West has become completely feminized. Women outnumber men greatly as far as practicing Catholics are concerned and it basically looks like on the local level, the local Catholic communities are really trying to cater to them.

Most of modern Catholics in the West have perverted the doctrine so that it could suit their Westerner needs. It's basically a virtue signalling cult now that promotes the perverted doctrine of extreme (fake) empathy towards everybody, as if this is some sort of main point of Christianity. You are not supposed to judge anybody anymore. If you are a man, you are basically expected to be some sort of a nice guy, a soyboy who is always smiling.

Obviously there is an element of empathy in Christianity, loving your enemy etc. There always was. But the problem is that these days it has become completely perverted to the level where it has nothing to do with Christianity. You can't just take that out of context and take it to extreme, but the modern West does exactly that. In fact, this entire modern globohomo society is build on perverted, falsified, misunderstood and secularized Christian concepts and now this notions entered the Church precisely because they appear to be Christian.

You never hear anyone preaching about virginity and importance of being celibate until marriage. In fact, you often see men and women bringing their pathetic girlfriends and boyfriends and then showing signs of affection in front of everybody. How can they reconcile this with Catholic doctrine is beyond me. I think it's because modern Catholics now believe in the Western concept of "love" (as in selfishly letting your emotions go and fornicate with each other) and mistake it with Christian concept of love for God. So basically, everything can be excused in the name of love and even encouraged. That's literally the attitude of this modern Catholics.

Women don't dress decently anymore, you only perhaps see some woman here and there in traditionalist circles wearing a veil and that's it, but even those women wear pants and modern Western fashion. In the modern Catholic masses it's even worse, you have women going there with leggings. You're not supposed to masturbate as a Catholic but then you have to go to a mass watching prime young women in leggings after months of no fap. How are they expecting men to do this, seriously?

Most men are literally the biggest soycucks out there. There's this modern "Catholic" concept of a father which involves doing half of work that should be done by woman and those cucked dads are then even proud of it, literally bragging about how they changed diapers of their children and so one because they think that they're somehow good family men for that.

Also this modern 'Catholic' obsession with "muh family", JFL at that. The Catholic doctrine has always been that celibacy is superior to marriage. Also, marriage at any cost shouldn't be the goal of a man in this society which actively works against you as a man when you get married. Why would you want to have a lot of children these days any way, so they can serve the secular states and the EU? So they can fight for NATO and Israel? So that your daughters can become part of some Chad's harem? Why would a Christian have to have a big family when he's not living in a Christian state and not even in a closed Christian community? You're literally providing manpower for your enemy.

The Church is not doing anything to separate itself from the degenerate society and expects us to raise children in this society and somehow prevent them to turn themselves into degenerates. How?? Like literally how would I be supposed to prevent my children to become Western degenerates this day and age without going against the cult of empathy and tolerance that this modern Catholic community promotes? This is obviously just theoretical anyway since no Catholic woman would want to marry me, they wait for Catholic Chads and Chad-lites and then settle for a normie soyboy.

Then there's the liturgy. Guitars and cheesy songs that resemble modern pop songs. It hurts to listen to it. Where are the Gregorian chants? You have to attend obscure traditionalist masses in other part of the country to listen to Gregorian chants at masses.

Here's the worst part. If you're a man in Catholic circles you're not supposed to judge anybody, you're not supposed to judge women for their ways, you're not supposed to judge other men for being weak (even if you only want to do this so that they could improve themselves)... On the other hand, these same Catholics become extremely judgmental of you as a man the exact moment when you stop acting like a Western soyboy. They will start preaching how it's not Christian to get angry or try to gaslight you by saying that you're not a great Christian yourself.

I admit that I'm not always the perfect Christian myself but since when do you have to be some saint to point out that people are simply not following the Catholic teaching and Catholic religious practice? Or for pointing out that this society is complete anti-Christian garbage? When I talk about the things I write here to Catholic people (criticizing the West), they don't want to hear it. Also I went to confession numerous times after I got aggressive to people, when you very rarely see other Catholics bothering to go to confession. Yet these same Catholics are always in line to receive the holy eucharist even though it's a sin if you receive it after you sinned mortally.

There's also this great "Other" now with the Muslim "threat" where this cucked version of 'Christianity' is supposedly morally superior to the "violent" "aggressive" masculine jihadi Islam so Catholics push this soyboy cult of fake virtue signalling empathy even more. Catholics have actually told me I sound like I'm from ISIS because I criticized the secularist apostate West.

The Church is not doing anything to bring Western men back to religion and to promote manly spirituality again. In fact, it is doing everything to cater to women and to soyboys.

The men will now either go to Islam or some radical ideology or will just continue their worthless Western animalistic existence. It's really over for a lot of them.
 
@Eskimocel your opinion on this?
 
Sex havers have infiltrated the home of God​
 
There's a wrong perception that religion it's dying in the West. I think a lot of people are still going to religion because ultimately, everyone is afraid of death and what will happen. These modern Westerners however want a version of Christianity that isn't judgemental of their behavior and that's why they're perverting it.

Then you have the Catholics defending it saying at least people are going to churches now, we should be happy. Indeed, I see a lot of packed churches here. But the "quality" of these believers if not there and they don't follow the doctrine. In fact, they probably don't even know what the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism are. They're literally just there.

It's a virtue signalling cult to make the Westerners who have bad conscience feel good.
 
Roman-Catholicism has been subverted, try Greek-Orthodoxy if you want to be Christian, if it doesn't bother you what it is, then you can go Sunni or Shia versions of Islam, but I think Sunni is the Chad and Shia is the virgin.
 
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Can’t wait until based jihadicels take over and establish a worldwide caliphate

Inshallah
 
The average Orthodox is just as detached from Christianity as the average Catholic around here.
then you can go Sunni or Shia versions of Islam, but I think Sunni is the Chad and Shia is the virgin.
 
The (((pope))) is compromised.

then you can go Sunni or Shia versions of Islam, but I think Sunni is the Chad and Shia is the virgin.

Shiaism is based af ala hezbollah and Iran. Wahhabism are cucked to jews.
 
then you can go Sunni or Shia versions of Islam, but I think Sunni is the Chad and Shia is the virgin.

I don't really see why I should change religion when the Catholic doctrine seems perfectly fine. It's not my problem if people don't follow it and pervert it. The same thing could happen to Islam and then what? You already have liberal Muslims creeping around.

1000 years ago, it was Christianity that was based and manly while Islam was cucked and civilized.
 
I'm ashamed of this. The 10 commandments and church rules have to be in effect. I'm tired seeing rules and ways of life are minimized and adjusted to the needs of Western degeneracy instead of prevailing over the work of Evil. I thought Catholics are supposed to judge and correct each other in the sense of Bible, just like I was always taught by my parents and grandparents.

People not judging each other with the "who am I to judge" mentality will bring downfall to society and the church. There will be no right or wrong. They're just doing what they like until Christ comes from heaven and judge them. Only then they would want to see the light. Just like women wanting a decent relationship only after going through a series of Chad cock. People would only turn good after the angels sound the seven trumpets. The state of church and the state of society are directly proportional to each other.

If this continues to go on, I'm afraid I have nothing else to say except "La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammed asul Allah"
 
People not judging each other with the "who am I to judge" mentality will bring downfall to society and the church.

The funniest thing is that these same Catholics will judge you harshly if you express opinions that they don't like or if you don't act like a soyboy. If you appear to be too aggressive and manly, you're not a good Christian to them.
 
Agreed with every point you've made. Ded srs.
Especially this:
I admit that I'm not always the perfect Christian myself but since when do you have to be some saint to point out that people are simply not following the Catholic teaching and Catholic religious practice?

You admit you're not the "perfect christian", which nobody technically is as we sin daily.
However as you stated, the modern christian scene conforms to much to the world as opposed to what the bible says.

I know reddit is cucked, but if you visit r/Christianity you'll see people commenting that God loves all of you and being Gay/Trans etc is fine.
I'm not saying that you should kill anyone who feels an infatuation to the same sex, but there's people on that subreddit saying: it's fine to act on it as "God is love".
Abhorrent.

You'll see people commenting that abortion is fine and God gave free will so do what you want.

There was a whore that tweeted something alone the lines of: "as a Christian, yeah I sleep around and film porn but God forgives all sins..."

People cherry picking parts of the bible to conform to the world. Yet we can't be of the world and of God.
All I can say is we are warned of these things:

Matthew 7:15 - Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's. clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

2 Cor 11:13-15 - For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
 
Its just the circle of life.Animism to religion to atheism then animism again,ad infinitum.

Religion has passed their time in this cycle.
Most people nowadays either wants to be god(atheists) or regards the world around them as something sacred like the animists of old(climate alarmists)
It will take some decades before religions become popular again.
 
What’s Catholicism punished for adultery? And pre marriage sex?
 
over for christiancels
 
The funniest thing is that these same Catholics will judge you harshly if you express opinions that they don't like or if you don't act like a soyboy. If you appear to be too aggressive and manly, you're not a good Christian to them.
I refuse to act like a soyboy. It's beyond retarded if Catholics will only act like a soyboy. "Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like MEN, be STRONG." (1 Corinthians 16:13)
 
Another thing that I noticed in churches.

Lot of girls younger than 15 and then a lot of women around 30-40 years old.

Almost no women in the 15-25 range. I bet they're out there riding the cock carousel. They'll probably come back to Christianity and "repent" and marry some soyboy betabuxxer who will brag about how he found his trad wife and will then moralize to other Christians that they should marry and that marriage is everything.

Since no one preaches about how important it is to stay virgin until marriage, these women probably don't even feel guilty anyway. It's all love anyway, right?
 
What did you honestly expect from literal whore worshipers(Mary) and white-knights(Jesus) ?
JFL @ Christianity
 
christianity is a dead religion nothing new it's exposed 1400 years ago by god in his final testament just look at this verse

Quran 57:27 : Then We sent in their tracks Our messengers. We sent Jesus the son of Mary, and We gave him the Injeel, and We ordained in the hearts of his followers kindness and compassion. But they invented Monasticism which We never decreed for them. They wanted to please God, but they did not observe it the way it should have been observed. Consequently, We gave those who acknowledged among them their recompense, while many of them were wicked.

God exposed both jews and christians in his last testimony to humanity don't be prejudiced and read the Quran for one time in your life please Only good and saved christians are monotheist ones before prophet muhammad not your fictioned false greek god(zeus-jesus) believers your whole religion is based on fictioned lies
 
christianity is a dead religion nothing new it's exposed 1400 years ago by god in his final testament just look at this verse

Quran 57:27 : Then We sent in their tracks Our messengers. We sent Jesus the son of Mary, and We gave him the Injeel, and We ordained in the hearts of his followers kindness and compassion. But they invented Monasticism which We never decreed for them. They wanted to please God, but they did not observe it the way it should have been observed. Consequently, We gave those who acknowledged among them their recompense, while many of them were wicked.

God exposed both jews and christians in his last testimony to humanity don't be prejudiced and read the Quran for one time in your life please Only good and saved christians are monotheist ones before prophet muhammad not your fictioned false greek god(zeus-jesus) believers your whole religion is based on fictioned lies

Islam is cucked because it wants you to marry. Monasticism and celibacy is what makes Christianity better even in its current version. I have no intention to become a Muslim betabuxxer.
 
I already knew things are that bad, but interesting report.

The Catholic Church has some edge over protestant ones, like the fact fathers must actually study whereas protestant pastors can unironically be illiterate and read/preach everything wrong, but I think at least some parts of Protestantism are less cucked than Catholicism nowadays.

After I found out the girl from my college who has multiple boyfriends at once is a practicing Catholic, I lost my will to attend to a church.
 
is what makes Christianity better even in its current version.

There is no good version of christianity, as you said before:
there is an element of empathy in Christianity, loving your enemy etc.
This religion contains the seed of globalism(everybody, no matter the background can convert. In it's history, many christian nations made efforts to expand the catholic/protestan sphere of influence(colonialism/force convertions/crusades)) and feminism(Jesus saving the prostitute from stoning, equality between men/women(spiritually) in god's eyes, see Galatians 3:28)

I became aware of how doomed this religion was, when i saw a foid pastor. If God really exists he wouldnt be okay with this shit, but then, catholics worships Mary.
 
Islam is cucked because it wants you to marry. Monasticism and celibacy is what makes Christianity better even in its current version. I have no intention to become a Muslim betabuxxer.
There is no verse in quran says that you have to marry someone stop throwing false accusations out of nowhere that's more like cultural pressure(literally every culture in the world) it's not in religious doctrine btw Monasticism is very common in Sunni and Shiasm after Al-ghazali and his mystic followers it's spreaded throughout islamic society check out sufism similar to pantheism and new age religions btw don't be believer of them they are mushriks(polytheist) aswell nothing islamic in it just the culture and that's it Quranic doctrine rejects their pantheist belief and clearly names them as mushriks. Monasticism is prohibited by god in the Quran but who cares most of the "muslims"(Sunnis&Shias) you see today is also disbeliever of Quran they are following their hadith and Fıqh books more than Quran and even rejecting Quranic verses with them.Quran is the most read but least understood book in the world most of the "muslims"(Sunnis&Shias) just learning how to read in arabic and that's it they are learning "islam" from books made by al-bukhari ,al-Tirmidhi , Ibn-Majah and other hadith collectors

"muslim betabuxxer" btw JFL
 
All religions are cruel, all founded on blood; for all rest principally on the idea of sacrifice — that is, on the perpetual immolation of humanity to the insatiable vengeance of divinity.
 
Great post, nothing to add. I have never heard that importance of virginity is being preached, especially for women. Probably because priests are aware that majority of women who attend these ceremonies are former sluts who would be offended to hear it and that wouldn't attract new potential members
 
Another thing that I noticed in churches.

Lot of girls younger than 15 and then a lot of women around 30-40 years old.

Almost no women in the 15-25 range. I bet they're out there riding the cock carousel. They'll probably come back to Christianity and "repent" and marry some soyboy betabuxxer who will brag about how he found his trad wife and will then moralize to other Christians that they should marry and that marriage is everything.

Since no one preaches about how important it is to stay virgin until marriage, these women probably don't even feel guilty anyway. It's all love anyway, right?

I also observed it. I was angry at first, now it is all just joke to me, same as whole existence which is some morbid joke.
 
Fuck the Pope. King Billy's on the wall.
 
The truth is that the entire message of Christianity is that as long as you are repentant and accept Jesus you can go to Heaven.

You can literally kill, rob, rape for your whole life, but on your death bed accept Christ and be accepted to Heaven. So the priest says.
 
All religions are cruel, all founded on blood; for all rest principally on the idea of sacrifice — that is, on the perpetual immolation of humanity to the insatiable vengeance of divinity.
This, Christianity is actually a death cult.

“If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”
Luke 14:26
 
Here churches are almost empty and for my luck only old ppl.
Some young couples but at least with a son and is very rare see them.
Only old foids, old males are one or two.
only in holy week is where you see more influx of ppl.
I confessed some years ago and the priest told me that marturbation was normal and Understandably, he told me not to feel bad about it.
at least catholic church in Spain is more outdated than in other countries from what I see.
 
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I've been away for some time to "religionmaxx" as you would say here. Here are some of my observations about the state of the modern Catholic church. It is very depressing.

The main observation is this: the Catholic Church in the West has become completely feminized. Women outnumber men greatly as far as practicing Catholics are concerned and it basically looks like on the local level, the local Catholic communities are really trying to cater to them.

Most of modern Catholics in the West have perverted the doctrine so that it could suit their Westerner needs. It's basically a virtue signalling cult now that promotes the perverted doctrine of extreme (fake) empathy towards everybody, as if this is some sort of main point of Christianity. You are not supposed to judge anybody anymore. If you are a man, you are basically expected to be some sort of a nice guy, a soyboy who is always smiling.

Obviously there is an element of empathy in Christianity, loving your enemy etc. There always was. But the problem is that these days it has become completely perverted to the level where it has nothing to do with Christianity. You can't just take that out of context and take it to extreme, but the modern West does exactly that. In fact, this entire modern globohomo society is build on perverted, falsified, misunderstood and secularized Christian concepts and now this notions entered the Church precisely because they appear to be Christian.

You never hear anyone preaching about virginity and importance of being celibate until marriage. In fact, you often see men and women bringing their pathetic girlfriends and boyfriends and then showing signs of affection in front of everybody. How can they reconcile this with Catholic doctrine is beyond me. I think it's because modern Catholics now believe in the Western concept of "love" (as in selfishly letting your emotions go and fornicate with each other) and mistake it with Christian concept of love for God. So basically, everything can be excused in the name of love and even encouraged. That's literally the attitude of this modern Catholics.

Women don't dress decently anymore, you only perhaps see some woman here and there in traditionalist circles wearing a veil and that's it, but even those women wear pants and modern Western fashion. In the modern Catholic masses it's even worse, you have women going there with leggings. You're not supposed to masturbate as a Catholic but then you have to go to a mass watching prime young women in leggings after months of no fap. How are they expecting men to do this, seriously?

Most men are literally the biggest soycucks out there. There's this modern "Catholic" concept of a father which involves doing half of work that should be done by woman and those cucked dads are then even proud of it, literally bragging about how they changed diapers of their children and so one because they think that they're somehow good family men for that.

Also this modern 'Catholic' obsession with "muh family", JFL at that. The Catholic doctrine has always been that celibacy is superior to marriage. Also, marriage at any cost shouldn't be the goal of a man in this society which actively works against you as a man when you get married. Why would you want to have a lot of children these days any way, so they can serve the secular states and the EU? So they can fight for NATO and Israel? So that your daughters can become part of some Chad's harem? Why would a Christian have to have a big family when he's not living in a Christian state and not even in a closed Christian community? You're literally providing manpower for your enemy.

The Church is not doing anything to separate itself from the degenerate society and expects us to raise children in this society and somehow prevent them to turn themselves into degenerates. How?? Like literally how would I be supposed to prevent my children to become Western degenerates this day and age without going against the cult of empathy and tolerance that this modern Catholic community promotes? This is obviously just theoretical anyway since no Catholic woman would want to marry me, they wait for Catholic Chads and Chad-lites and then settle for a normie soyboy.

Then there's the liturgy. Guitars and cheesy songs that resemble modern pop songs. It hurts to listen to it. Where are the Gregorian chants? You have to attend obscure traditionalist masses in other part of the country to listen to Gregorian chants at masses.

Here's the worst part. If you're a man in Catholic circles you're not supposed to judge anybody, you're not supposed to judge women for their ways, you're not supposed to judge other men for being weak (even if you only want to do this so that they could improve themselves)... On the other hand, these same Catholics become extremely judgmental of you as a man the exact moment when you stop acting like a Western soyboy. They will start preaching how it's not Christian to get angry or try to gaslight you by saying that you're not a great Christian yourself.

I admit that I'm not always the perfect Christian myself but since when do you have to be some saint to point out that people are simply not following the Catholic teaching and Catholic religious practice? Or for pointing out that this society is complete anti-Christian garbage? When I talk about the things I write here to Catholic people (criticizing the West), they don't want to hear it. Also I went to confession numerous times after I got aggressive to people, when you very rarely see other Catholics bothering to go to confession. Yet these same Catholics are always in line to receive the holy eucharist even though it's a sin if you receive it after you sinned mortally.

There's also this great "Other" now with the Muslim "threat" where this cucked version of 'Christianity' is supposedly morally superior to the "violent" "aggressive" masculine jihadi Islam so Catholics push this soyboy cult of fake virtue signalling empathy even more. Catholics have actually told me I sound like I'm from ISIS because I criticized the secularist apostate West.

The Church is not doing anything to bring Western men back to religion and to promote manly spirituality again. In fact, it is doing everything to cater to women and to soyboys.

The men will now either go to Islam or some radical ideology or will just continue their worthless Western animalistic existence. It's really over for a lot of them.
The male hierarchy that controls the Catholic Church imposes on itself an unnatural and perverse sex life. Its members focus on their "sacrifices", and use them as license to profane and mock their own creed. You have every right to complain that the people around you won't join your crusade to re-empower these perverts, but you shouldn't expect them do anything else, except maybe point and laugh.
All religions are cruel, all founded on blood; for all rest principally on the idea of sacrifice — that is, on the perpetual immolation of humanity to the insatiable vengeance of divinity.
Buddhism isn't violent, and its central tenet isn't sacrifice, it's moderation. Jainism is even less violent, some practioners wear a face mask when outside, to avoid inhaling and killing gnats and such.
 
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@Eskimocel your opinion on this?
Catholics are a bunch of brainwashed cucks that if you display the slightest disagreement with them they call you a false Christian. Most of them are liberals, very few are actually true conservatives. And those who address the real issues of this society is literally a slight %.

Its now feminized soyboys that follow it with their shitty liberal anti Christian views complaining about other true conservatives for being too extreme and backwards.
 
I never got e michael jones' argument that catholicism is the best defense against the globohomo / liberal agenda. look at republic of ireIand, it has stayed true to roman catholicism forever and they now have a gay Paki as their prime minister.
 
I never got e michael jones' argument that catholicism is the best defense against the globohomo / liberal agenda. look at republic of ireIand, it has stayed true to roman catholicism forever and they now have a gay Paki as their prime minister.

It would be the best defense if people stayed true to the doctrine. Unfortunately it was not meant to be.
 
I've been away for some time to "religionmaxx" as you would say here. Here are some of my observations about the state of the modern Catholic church. It is very depressing.

The main observation is this: the Catholic Church in the West has become completely feminized. Women outnumber men greatly as far as practicing Catholics are concerned and it basically looks like on the local level, the local Catholic communities are really trying to cater to them.

Most of modern Catholics in the West have perverted the doctrine so that it could suit their Westerner needs. It's basically a virtue signalling cult now that promotes the perverted doctrine of extreme (fake) empathy towards everybody, as if this is some sort of main point of Christianity. You are not supposed to judge anybody anymore. If you are a man, you are basically expected to be some sort of a nice guy, a soyboy who is always smiling.

Obviously there is an element of empathy in Christianity, loving your enemy etc. There always was. But the problem is that these days it has become completely perverted to the level where it has nothing to do with Christianity. You can't just take that out of context and take it to extreme, but the modern West does exactly that. In fact, this entire modern globohomo society is build on perverted, falsified, misunderstood and secularized Christian concepts and now this notions entered the Church precisely because they appear to be Christian.

You never hear anyone preaching about virginity and importance of being celibate until marriage. In fact, you often see men and women bringing their pathetic girlfriends and boyfriends and then showing signs of affection in front of everybody. How can they reconcile this with Catholic doctrine is beyond me. I think it's because modern Catholics now believe in the Western concept of "love" (as in selfishly letting your emotions go and fornicate with each other) and mistake it with Christian concept of love for God. So basically, everything can be excused in the name of love and even encouraged. That's literally the attitude of this modern Catholics.

Women don't dress decently anymore, you only perhaps see some woman here and there in traditionalist circles wearing a veil and that's it, but even those women wear pants and modern Western fashion. In the modern Catholic masses it's even worse, you have women going there with leggings. You're not supposed to masturbate as a Catholic but then you have to go to a mass watching prime young women in leggings after months of no fap. How are they expecting men to do this, seriously?

Most men are literally the biggest soycucks out there. There's this modern "Catholic" concept of a father which involves doing half of work that should be done by woman and those cucked dads are then even proud of it, literally bragging about how they changed diapers of their children and so one because they think that they're somehow good family men for that.

Also this modern 'Catholic' obsession with "muh family", JFL at that. The Catholic doctrine has always been that celibacy is superior to marriage. Also, marriage at any cost shouldn't be the goal of a man in this society which actively works against you as a man when you get married. Why would you want to have a lot of children these days any way, so they can serve the secular states and the EU? So they can fight for NATO and Israel? So that your daughters can become part of some Chad's harem? Why would a Christian have to have a big family when he's not living in a Christian state and not even in a closed Christian community? You're literally providing manpower for your enemy.

The Church is not doing anything to separate itself from the degenerate society and expects us to raise children in this society and somehow prevent them to turn themselves into degenerates. How?? Like literally how would I be supposed to prevent my children to become Western degenerates this day and age without going against the cult of empathy and tolerance that this modern Catholic community promotes? This is obviously just theoretical anyway since no Catholic woman would want to marry me, they wait for Catholic Chads and Chad-lites and then settle for a normie soyboy.

Then there's the liturgy. Guitars and cheesy songs that resemble modern pop songs. It hurts to listen to it. Where are the Gregorian chants? You have to attend obscure traditionalist masses in other part of the country to listen to Gregorian chants at masses.

Here's the worst part. If you're a man in Catholic circles you're not supposed to judge anybody, you're not supposed to judge women for their ways, you're not supposed to judge other men for being weak (even if you only want to do this so that they could improve themselves)... On the other hand, these same Catholics become extremely judgmental of you as a man the exact moment when you stop acting like a Western soyboy. They will start preaching how it's not Christian to get angry or try to gaslight you by saying that you're not a great Christian yourself.

I admit that I'm not always the perfect Christian myself but since when do you have to be some saint to point out that people are simply not following the Catholic teaching and Catholic religious practice? Or for pointing out that this society is complete anti-Christian garbage? When I talk about the things I write here to Catholic people (criticizing the West), they don't want to hear it. Also I went to confession numerous times after I got aggressive to people, when you very rarely see other Catholics bothering to go to confession. Yet these same Catholics are always in line to receive the holy eucharist even though it's a sin if you receive it after you sinned mortally.

There's also this great "Other" now with the Muslim "threat" where this cucked version of 'Christianity' is supposedly morally superior to the "violent" "aggressive" masculine jihadi Islam so Catholics push this soyboy cult of fake virtue signalling empathy even more. Catholics have actually told me I sound like I'm from ISIS because I criticized the secularist apostate West.

The Church is not doing anything to bring Western men back to religion and to promote manly spirituality again. In fact, it is doing everything to cater to women and to soyboys.

The men will now either go to Islam or some radical ideology or will just continue their worthless Western animalistic existence. It's really over for a lot of them.
I was about to write a very similiar post. I'm not catholic but I was trying to go back to church only to find the community extremely old, decimated and cucked to the core. Nearly impossible to find young people not to mention women and girls.

The church just increases my social and sexual alienation telling me not to jerk off (stupid as shit). It's a desperate situation. I'm considering roman paganism now
 
I was about to write a very similiar post. I'm not catholic but I was trying to go back to church only to find the community extremely old, decimated and cucked to the core. Nearly impossible to find young people not to mention women and girls.

The church just increases my social and sexual alienation telling me not to jerk off (stupid as shit). It's a desperate situation. I'm considering roman paganism now

There are plenty of young people in some of the churches here, but I'm talking really young like 7-14 year olds. Once they get on high school which here is at 14/15 they usually leave the church and live like regular atheist Westerners. The typical "I used to go to the mass because my parents raised me like this" type of ex-Catholic. Some of them return to Church when they're like 30.

Very few 15-25 year olds.
 
There are plenty of young people in some of the churches here, but I'm talking really young like 7-14 year olds. Once they get on high school which here is at 14/15 they usually leave the church and live like regular atheist Westerners. The typical "I used to go to the mass because my parents raised me like this" type of ex-Catholic. Some of them return to Church when they're like 30.

Very few 15-25 year olds.
Lucky you. We have no priests here and the only people attending mass are young kids (with parents) or old people. Churches are empty
 

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