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I was at university trying to normiemaxx, gained a few friends, got some numbers (were all platonic), you guys know the drill, we've all tried it, but it never leads to anything "romantic"

Here's the final moment, there was a point where I said to myself that all options within or above my league were failing, so I'll need to to try and date lower down to increase my odds, I actually believed that personality made a difference around that time (to an extent) and that if I was just outgoing enough and confident enough I'd surely get at least one girl to like me

Well one experience after the next made me bitter, then one day I met this girl who was good at a subject I was crap at (and vice versa), I think she was actually a virgin based on the way she acted, she seemed even more autistic than me and was extremely religious. We were doing the same course so we helped eachother out, weeks went by and things were going well (I thought), we were sitting one day, talking, laughing, and I tried to make a move, and she seemed shocked, from her look I could tell its not that she necessarily didn't want it, its more like she "wasn't ready", but if I had been more attractive that wouldn't have mattered, in other words, I hadn't done enough to "woo" this girl who was even below my league, that was the final straw for my hopes, I contemplated the idea of "taking it slow" with her and lost all will to even try because I realized TIME WAS NOT ON MY SIDE, I'm a virgin in my 20's and I'm running out of time

Later that evening when I was home, I realized how truly fucked I was, after years and years of rejection, humiliation, depression, etc, even if I did find this "perfect girl" who would remain a virgin till marriage for me, I no longer had it in me to wait, I probably wouldn't even want her because I've missed out on too much already to keep waiting. I was just too damaged at that point (a few months later one of my friends killed himself but that's another story, yeah shit just kept getting worse)

I REALIZED IT WAS TRULY OVER FOR ME THEN, BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST A MATTER OF ME ATTRACTING A WOMAN, IT WAS A MATTER OF ME EVEN BEING ABLE TO WANT TO ATTRACT HER, TO WANT TO TALK TO HER, TO WANT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SEX WITH HER, THERE WAS THIS CLOCK TICKING AWAY AT THE BACK OF MY HEAD, I COULD DIE TOMORROW AND I'D DIE A VIRGIN, NEVER EVEN EXPERIENCING A FUCKING TONGUE KISS

A lot of guys who marry virgins are with women who they met young and they decided to do it together, they had various bonding experiences together, the kind of experiences that can satisfy you in a way that makes it seem worth waiting, for those of us who have had none of that, all that there is, is sex, and anything other than that is a waste of time, and a gamble, because you can spend hundreds to thousands wooing one woman and she can just go fuck Chad on the side

I probably couldn't even date a virgin if I could get one, because she'd have a high bar to live up to when it comes to satisfaction, she'd have huge hole to fill, how could I expect any woman to be able to fill a decade plus worth of depression and rage, she won't be able to fill those shoes, she can't make up for all the time that was lost, no woman could

I think the scariest realization for black pillers, is not the black pill itself, but its realizing that you are trapped in your life and there is no way back, there is only forward, once you've been fucked up by life enough there's no going back, everything behind you feels unnatural, it feels forced and it enrages you

Think of something as simple as a hug, something you'd do with friends when you were in elementary, something you'd do with family, those moments probably felt special to me then, but I don't feel like hugging anyone, I don't want to hug anyone, a hug would feel like I'm being taunted, like I'm being mocked by reality itself, like I'm getting scraps off of the table at the affection banquet (by affection I mean meaningful physical stimuli - kissing, cuddling, sex, etc) while everyone else has shared all these other experiences

To all the readers who have a "oneitis" or whatever the fuck, please understand you are wasting your time, you have to move forward, there is no going back, ascension is a waste of time, you are too damaged at this point, if you somehow find a GF who has an idea of what you've faced, and is understanding, and willing to "nurse you back" into being a "normie" then go for it and good luck, but where the fuck are you going to find that, women don't even want to or have to date within their league, what woman is going to want to take on all that baggage, at this point in life, its escortcel or nothing, I literally can't date, I don't want to date, the prospect of taking a woman out who I haven't fucked yet to eat food and talk about shit I care nothing about, seems like a waste of time, it probably feels like a normal thing for someone who hasn't been starved of physical stimuli from the opposite sex for their entire lives, but for someone who has it seems like a drag, I just want to hit the skip dialogue button when it comes to that shit, I don't have it in me anymore to care
 
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The moment I have stopped and thought about it.

Why so far me approaching has done nothing.
Why so far I get no matches on tinder and if I do it leads no where.
And why does my mother keep calling me "gay"(yes she does that, fuck her) and she loves to mock my single male status.

Made a slight edit to mention about the time I got rejected by two "Christian" females who only viewed me as "comedy" material(jester). That pretty much fucked me for a white.

Couldnt be my personality, since I have made a few acquaintances(males) along the way that left me years ago. I was only left with the other plausible explanation.
 
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And why does my mother keep calling me "gay"(yes she does that, fuck her) and she loves to mock my single male status.
Same, she mocks and taunts me all the time. I was talking with my grandma on Skype last week along with my mum and dad and when my grandma asked if I need maybe new shoes for my birthday (she lives in US so expensive presents like that aren't a problem) and my mom immidietaly said that I don't need any because I don't leave the house and they all started laughing.
 
Same, she mocks and taunts me all the time. I was talking with my grandma on Skype last week along with my mum and dad and when my grandma asked if I need maybe new shoes for my birthday (she lives in US so expensive presents like that aren't a problem) and my mom immidietaly said that I don't need any because I don't leave the house and they all started laughing.
Same, my grandmother mentions me attempting to get a wife for the future. While I can just hear my mother interrupt the conversation with her stupid "jokes" calling me gay.

Yea sound funny initially but its sad as fuck since people know I dont get laid and I am total slaving loser. Even if I had sex somehow they would not believe me, but its fine since I wont have it so there is no need to mention that.
 
Around this summer. I realized the true power level of my mentalceldom. I can have the combined looksmax knowledge of the whole universe and it won't do shit for me and even if I could looksmax, my skin is still fucked and I am a wrecked neet in my late 20s.

I always knew I had no chance so I didn't even try, but I had hopes.

I have a genuine bad personality now as well.

It's time to honkmax.

Relatives hate me too.
 
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Same here man. Every year is just another point deduction on my worth. I'm most scared I will be driven to the point of utter powerlessness. Where they will find my dead body rotting on a pile of garbage.

We can only be an economic conduit to foids. There's no objectivity for foids desire of a mans good personality. Mens looks, money, and status are all objective. Any male that tries to fraudulently improve himself will be found out.

You have to weigh your net positives against the foids negatives. Every time you can find a negative in her and a positive in yourself, you bump up your status.
 
When I took a picture of myself
 
Every time i go out i see tall and at least 5/10 males with bad looking gfs, im not 5/10 and im short.
 
Short version:
The first day I started working.
 
Realizing that looks, height and being NT are everything (blackpill). I dont have any of those, so I knew it was over. Also being called ugly irl without asking. Foids at school talking to me in a mocking tone, and trying to get me to sperg out (I ignore them). Why cant those retarded cunts let me be incel in peace? Literally never talk to them unless its needed for school. They have no business talking to me. Retards smh.
 
Sometimes i get this rush of bluepill, and it tells me that i have a chance, but then the blackpill comes in and reminds me of reality. During moments like these, it gets hard for me to breathe and i need to stand up to get oxygen into my system. Its getting harder and harder to deal with these.
 
Sometimes i get this rush of bluepill, and it tells me that i have a chance, but then the blackpill comes in and reminds me of reality. During moments like these, it gets hard for me to breathe and i need to stand up to get oxygen into my system. Its getting harder and harder to deal with these.
Koreacel? I can tell by your pfp
 
Probably in my mid teens to early twenties when I realized my mental and physical health issues were always going to impede me from having a wife/girlfriend, etc.
 
It was a dawning realization over years of PUAmaxxing, gymmaxxing and moneymaxxing.
When you're jacked, have money and know just what to say in pretty much every situation, but still keep getting rejected... 150 times in a row.
 
Haha yeah. I dont know if youre either a spanishcel or a japanesecel.
Spanairdcel, i just have Hideki Tojo as my name cause me likey Japanese Military history. But i know that flag because i've delved into some Korean history
 
Spanairdcel, i just have Hideki Tojo as my name cause me likey Japanese Military history. But i know that flag because i've delved into some Korean history
Well, i dislike japanese military history cause im obviously korean, and also because japan annexed korea, but that was because korea's leaders were weak.

But it's funny because i delved into spanish military myself. I always found the idea of the tercios super cool.
 
When I realized people generally avoid me, as if I had down syndrome (I look like I do).
 
This is one of the best threads I've read on here, it hit me hard.
We're supposed to do the tame, romantic stuff like looking each other in the eyes, non-sexual hugging and holding each other's hands when we're in our teens and not fully developed. If you don't go through those kind of experiences, eventually you're going to be nothing but lust. Your desire for sex will control you to your core and until you have satisfied that desire with a woman, you won't be able to truly love her.
 
I've always known something was very wrong but was still naive. Until I came across the blackpill online and everything I thought was actually true. I never knew so many people thinked the same way but accepting the blackpill was a blessing tbh.
 
I've always known something was very wrong but was still naive. Until I came across the blackpill online and everything I thought was actually true. I never knew so many people thinked the same way but accepting the blackpill was a blessing tbh.
The blackpill is either heavy af or liberating
 
This is literally a repost of the same topic I talked about no less the 24hrs ago. Low IQ repost my guy, I usuanlly have a high respect for you blkpilpres but no this time man.
 
This is literally a repost of the same topic I talked about no less the 24hrs ago. Low IQ repost my guy, I usuanlly have a high respect for you blkpilpres but no this time man.

This was posted on October 4
 
There was no final moment, but more a series of moments that led me to realise that there is no point even trying as a sub 6 male
 
There was no final moment, but more a series of moments that led me to realise that there is no point even trying as a sub 6 male

There's always a final moment, a final breaking point, think about it, you didn't know something before you knew it JFL, there's always a moment when it finally dawns upon you and the idea becomes concrete
 
I was at university trying to normiemaxx, gained a few friends, got some numbers (were all platonic), you guys know the drill, we've all tried it, but it never leads to anything "romantic"

Here's the final moment, there was a point where I said to myself that all options within or above my league were failing, so I'll need to to try and date lower down to increase my odds, I actually believed that personality made a difference around that time (to an extent) and that if I was just outgoing enough and confident enough I'd surely get at least one girl to like me

Well one experience after the next made me bitter, then one day I met this girl who was good at a subject I was crap at (and vice versa), I think she was actually a virgin based on the way she acted, she seemed even more autistic than me and was extremely religious. We were doing the same course so we helped eachother out, weeks went by and things were going well (I thought), we were sitting one day, talking, laughing, and I tried to make a move, and she seemed shocked, from her look I could tell its not that she necessarily didn't want it, its more like she "wasn't ready", but if I had been more attractive that wouldn't have mattered, in other words, I hadn't done enough to "woo" this girl who was even below my league, that was the final straw for my hopes, I contemplated the idea of "taking it slow" with her and lost all will to even try because I realized TIME WAS NOT ON MY SIDE, I'm a virgin in my 20's and I'm running out of time

Later that evening when I was home, I realized how truly fucked I was, after years and years of rejection, humiliation, depression, etc, even if I did find this "perfect girl" who would remain a virgin till marriage for me, I no longer had it in me to wait, I probably wouldn't even want her because I've missed out on too much already to keep waiting. I was just too damaged at that point (a few months later one of my friends killed himself but that's another story, yeah shit just kept getting worse)

I REALIZED IT WAS TRULY OVER FOR ME THEN, BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST A MATTER OF ME ATTRACTING A WOMAN, IT WAS A MATTER OF ME EVEN BEING ABLE TO WANT TO ATTRACT HER, TO WANT TO TALK TO HER, TO WANT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SEX WITH HER, THERE WAS THIS CLOCK TICKING AWAY AT THE BACK OF MY HEAD, I COULD DIE TOMORROW AND I'D DIE A VIRGIN, NEVER EVEN EXPERIENCING A FUCKING TONGUE KISS

A lot of guys who marry virgins are with women who they met young and they decided to do it together, they had various bonding experiences together, the kind of experiences that can satisfy you in a way that makes it seem worth waiting, for those of us who have had none of that, all that there is, is sex, and anything other than that is a waste of time, and a gamble, because you can spend hundreds to thousands wooing one woman and she can just go fuck Chad on the side

I probably couldn't even date a virgin if I could get one, because she'd have a high bar to live up to when it comes to satisfaction, she'd have huge hole to fill, how could I expect any woman to be able to fill a decade plus worth of depression and rage, she won't be able to fill those shoes, she can't make up for all the time that was lost, no woman could

I think the scariest realization for black pillers, is not the black pill itself, but its realizing that you are trapped in your life and there is no way back, there is only forward, once you've been fucked up by life enough there's no going back, everything behind you feels unnatural, it feels forced and it enrages you

Think of something as simple as a hug, something you'd do with friends when you were in elementary, something you'd do with family, those moments probably felt special to me then, but I don't feel like hugging anyone, I don't want to hug anyone, a hug would feel like I'm being taunted, like I'm being mocked by reality itself, like I'm getting scraps off of the table at the affection banquet (by affection I mean meaningful physical stimuli - kissing, cuddling, sex, etc) while everyone else has shared all these other experiences

To all the readers who have a "oneitis" or whatever the fuck, please understand you are wasting your time, you have to move forward, there is no going back, ascension is a waste of time, you are too damaged at this point, if you somehow find a GF who has an idea of what you've faced, and is understanding, and willing to "nurse you back" into being a "normie" then go for it and good luck, but where the fuck are you going to find that, women don't even want to or have to date within their league, what woman is going to want to take on all that baggage, at this point in life, its escortcel or nothing, I literally can't date, I don't want to date, the prospect of taking a woman out who I haven't fucked yet to eat food and talk about shit I care nothing about, seems like a waste of time, it probably feels like a normal thing for someone who hasn't been starved of physical stimuli from the opposite sex for their entire lives, but for someone who has it seems like a drag, I just want to hit the skip dialogue button when it comes to that shit, I don't have it in me anymore to care
Based
 
Graduating uni a virgin
 
It was last year.

I was about to start uni. I was hanging out with a bunch of normies. For one reason or another the discussion turned to sex.

"Oh I haven't had sex in a month, it's beeeeen a while."

"Oh, you're a virgin...? Thought so..."

That was when I started my incels.co account and decided to escortcel.
 
It was last year.

I was about to start uni. I was hanging out with a bunch of normies. For one reason or another the discussion turned to sex.

"Oh I haven't had sex in a month, it's beeeeen a while."

"Oh, you're a virgin...? Thought so..."

That was when I started my incels.co account and decided to escortcel.

Yes nigga... You seem high IQ. We need more of that here tbh.
 
I always had sneaking suspicions that it was over from a very young age, its just that I kept telling myself "surely this isn't it, right? surely it can't be???" but then every single, EVERY SINGLE, E V E R Y S I N G L E experience has lined up perfectly with my those early suspicions.

At a certain point, it's just over. Sure you retain a bit of hope, but as every year goes on, and start hitting certain age brackets, you realize that hope is all but lost.

Now being 30+ - yeah, there ain't any coming back from this, it's over.
 
I knew it was over since June 20th 2017, however I knew it was truly over on May 17th 2019
 
Did not even graduate, never finished the degree

How come? Hopefully you have no loans tbh, when youre dumping tens of thousands of dollars to attend uni its kind of self motivating because you dont wanna owe all that money to the jews with nothing to show
 
No last moment. Knew it since I was kid.
 
How come? Hopefully you have no loans tbh, when youre dumping tens of thousands of dollars to attend uni its kind of self motivating because you dont wanna owe all that money to the jews with nothing to show

I have like 10 to 20k max to pay off and that's even if its within the tuition policy to pay it off
 
What age though, you didn't just always know like you were born out of the womb knowing JFL, there is always "a moment"
I was around 7-8 when I noticed other kids used to stay away from me due to my physical disability. It was then I gave up my thought on friendship and love.
 
I exactly don't lose my hope until I started to find redpill(there's too info about true nature of women like hypergamy, but not so brutal like the blackpill)and this blackpill site. And my life is mostly acting/treaty like a fucking teenager so that conditioned me a lot to mature mentally very late and I don't notice until this two or three years that was over for me.
 
So you dropped out? What was your degree ?

Don't really want to say (I probably have already though on this site somewhere), don't want to give out too many details about myself

I realized how crappy the job market was going and there were other people doing the same degree as myself that had connections, parents with connections and businesses, etc

I'll never regret going to uni because it was there that I truly realized that everything about the world I knew was a lie, I got black pilled on the reality of sex and dating, humanity, how to actually be successful, etc

Like I've said before, if I could do it over again, I'd have done business subjects in my earlier years of schooling, but looking back all my parents and teachers did was lie to me about how the world works, I was given a false ruleset so I made bad choices, all I can do now is try to reverse it by making good ones now

A degree is good for stability, but it won't lead to the kind of success and lifestyle that I want, for that you need passive income and entrepreneurship
 
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Also I realized it was over after junior year of high school (so when I was 16)
 
I’ve come to the conclusion that women know the moment they first meet you if they want to fuck you or not. you have to be completely naive and deluded to think it’s not the case with females. Theyre just holes born to reproduce with the best quality sperm they can find possible for their offspring. Women cannot be friends with males. 99.9% of times when a male enters a “friendship” he gets sexual feelings for her, but she doesn’t replicate those feelings towards him.
 
Talked to a girl in college class, just made a simple question about the teacher's name (needed to send him an email), she came on the next class and sat as far away from me as possible. Then she simply stopped coming altogether afterwards.

I already knew about the blackpill and my flaws, but this was the moment I realized it was 100% over for me.
Around this summer. I realized the true power level of my mentalceldom. I can have the combined looksmax knowledge of the whole universe and it won't do shit for me and even if I could looksmax, my skin is still fucked and I am a wrecked neet in my late 20s.

I always knew I had no chance so I didn't even try, but I had hopes.

I have a genuine bad personality now as well.

It's time to honkmax.

Relatives hate me too.

There is no such thing as a "mentalcel"

Psychological problems are just consequence of shitty parenting and having a shit face
 
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When my first crush got a bf 2 weeks after she rejected me when i was 14
 

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