JFL When You Are Ignorant Of Relationship Norms You Unknowingly Blow Your Cover As A Virgin (It Happened To Me)

[BlkPillPres]

There's a specific memory I sometimes think of that makes be cringe so hard

I was working at this place and I was talking with this female co-worker about why men shouldn't have to buy any of women's hygiene products for them, and then she asked me a question that was basically - "How often do you want to have sex" with your girlfriend, etc, and I responded with some stupid shit that made it seem like I would be having sex everyday or almost everyday

Now me being ignorant of the fact of how physically taxing sex is, and how often normies even have the time to have sex, that sounded like a "good response", but looking back now I realize that my "cover was blown" and she probably asked that question on purpose

This memory makes me cringe, but it also makes me laugh

It was only years later when I worked more jobs, started talking to normies and listening to them talk about their relationships, that I realize that people (with jobs) don't have sex all that often (maybe 2 times a week) and if you are tired you don't really feel like having sex all that much

What a lot of virgin men also don't realize is that sex is a physically taxing act (especially on the part of the man). I was surprised and confused when I got a leg cramp when I finally decided to pay for sex, its really common sense when you think about it, you are more confused about the fact that you didn't realize something that simple and obvious before you did it, but it doesn't really dawn upon you that its like exercise until you do it yourself, because your only frame of reference for sexual pleasure, is you sitting comfortably on a chair stroking your dick and watching a computer screen (effortless pleasure)

To a virgin with no life experience you think that if you get a GF you'll just be having sex all the time, it doesn't work like that (for the average couple), and based on how you talk about sex when you aren't aware of that reality, many normies around you easily gauge that you are virgin, and you don't even realize it because again you are ignorant of the norms of being in a relationship and how sex works

People usually have to "make time for sex", its not always spontaneous, the working life of the average human today is very hectic and usually both partners work, and when you get home from work you are both somewhat tired. On top of that when you have children that adds even more complications

So I got "found out" those years ago and I didn't even know it, so all those looks and stares I was getting afterwards made sense

This is why its important to talk to normies and understand how their lives work (if you want to blend in)

 

[Meus]

Chad has sex every day tough.

 

[PPEcel]

I just don't talk about my sex life with normies. When they do talk about it, I keep my mouth zipped, and change the topic of conversation at the next opportunity.

Every time I pay for sex it does remind me how physically unfit I am for a 20-year-old.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I just don't talk about my sex life with normies. When they do talk about it, I keep my mouth zipped, and change the topic of conversation at the next opportunity.

Yeah, that's another reason they'll think you are a virgin, of course that doesn't matter to a richcel like yourself but if man wants to "move up" in the working world he has to be respected in some sense, and nobody respects a virgin

Every time I pay for sex it does remind me how physically unfit I am for a 20-year-old.

I really need to get back in shape before I start back hookercelling, my belly has gotten too big

Ironically though with all these food places closed right now I'm losing weight slowly without even exercising

I'm being starved back into shape

Sometimes I'll just be sitting down at my computer and start thinking about a burger and fries, and dude............ I can taste the burger in my mouth (my mouth just starts watering, I need fast food badly lol)

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

people are pretty horny, but apparently porn and masturbation are endemic even in "happy" relationships, and most of those relationships are often on the rocks so it's not exactly surprising they do it so rarely

still, for people who are very healthy and have time for each other, i imagine they replace at least some of that with real sex, and get close to once per day

i remember last year i was horny most of the day and working from home, if i had a GF and she was in a similar situation we probably would have fucked every single day, in fact with how many young normies have comfy jobs working from home, i'm sure plenty of fit young people are living precisely this lifestyle

anyway, dunno if it was that much of a giveaway what you said, for mean asshole people sure, but for them literally anything is a secret giveaway that you're a loser and a liar, i've seen people say a guy is lying about having a girlfriend if they think he isn't "worthy enough" of one

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

There's a specific memory I sometimes think of that makes be cringe so hard

I was working at this place and I was talking with this female co-worker about why men shouldn't have to buy any of women's hygiene products for them, and then she asked me a question that was basically - "How often do you want to have sex" with your girlfriend, etc, and I responded with some stupid shit that made it seem like I would be having sex everyday or almost everyday

Now me being ignorant of the fact of how physically taxing sex is, and how often normies even have the time to have sex, that sounded like a "good response", but looking back now I realize that my "cover was blown" and she probably asked that question on purpose

This memory makes me cringe, but it also makes me laugh

It was only years later when I worked more jobs, started talking to normies and listening to them talk about their relationships, that I realize that people (with jobs) don't have sex all that often (maybe 2 times a week) and if you are tired you don't really feel like having sex all that much

What a lot of virgin men also don't realize is that sex is a physically taxing act (especially on the part of the man). I was surprised and confused when I got a leg cramp when I finally decided to pay for sex, its really common sense when you think about it, you are more confused about the fact that you didn't realize something that simple and obvious before you did it, but it doesn't really dawn up you that its like exercise until you do it yourself, because your only frame of reference for sexual pleasure, is you sitting comfortably on a chair stroking your dick and watching a computer screen (effortless pleasure)

To a virgin with no life experience you think that if you get a GF you'll just be having sex all the time, it doesn't work like that (for the average couple), and based on how you talk about sex when you aren't aware of that reality, many normies around you easily gauge that you are virgin, and you don't even realize it because again you are ignorant of the norms of being in a relationship and how sex works

People usually have to "make time for sex", its not always spontaneous, the working life of the average human today is very hectic and usually both partners work, and when you get home from work you are both somewhat tired. On top of that when you have children that adds even more complications

So I got "found out" those years ago and I didn't even know it, so all those looks and stares I was getting afterwards made sense

This is why its important to talk to normies and understand how their lives work (if you want to blend in)

That’s normies sexlife in a relationship.
Chad gets sex on demand and chad can probably say multiple times a day and the girl would believe it’s true.

 

[Speedloader]

Blows me

 

[BlkPillPres]

That’s normies sexlife in a relationship.

Yeah, that's the point of the thread, the exception to the rule shouldn't dictate how you interpret reality, that is peak idiocy

Chad gets

When guys start off an argument like this, this is when I stop taking it seriously, what Chad gets has nothing to do with nothing

Average people have jobs and work, what someone born into an inheritance gets to do has nothing to do with anything, that's the exception

These kinds of responses are not only "non sequiturs" they are also "red herrings", they have nothing to do with anything

We could be talking about the cost of ice cream and some retard will always pop up into a thread to say "Chad gets extra scoops for free"

 

[BITG]

Agreed. A good answer is 2 times a week. It’s reasonable. Also, every incel should have a few fake relationship stories ready to go at any moments notice (IE your last relationship was 2 years ago, her name was becky, it didn’t work out between you two for whatever reason etc). At least that’s if you are trying to LARP as a Norman.

 

[NYCcel]

I never talk about sex

The foid that asks you that kind of question is way out of line and probably think you're a virign

 

[BlkPillPres]

every incel should have a few fake relationship stories ready to go at any moments notice (IE your last relationship was 2 years ago, her name was becky, it didn’t work out between you two for whatever reason etc). At least that’s if you are trying to LARP as a Norman.

This, I find it so funny that most of the guys on this site who plan on "ascending one day" and will never pay for sex, spend no time at all creating fake past relationships. They literally think they can spend the rest of their life using memes as a guide to how life and relationships work, its like they don't realize that once that potential date can gauge that you are a man in your 20's, 30's, etc with no relationship experience, she will avoid them like the plague

If you are going to refuse to spend time building experience, you have to artificially construct it then, you'll have to "fake it till you make it"

Still like I keep saying though, even if they manage to get a date, the moment is going to come when you finally have to fuck her, and she is going to be able to tell you are a virgin by how inexperienced you are

A man in his 20's or 30's that doesn't know his way around the bedroom is obviously a virgin, even if a guy is just "bad at sex" there's a limit to how bad you can be based on experience

So they won't pay for sex to learn how to have sex, but they expect that they will one day "ascend" and be able to keep a woman satisfied

A lot of these guys are living in disney channel, they have a childish mindset, I don't think they realize how far behind in life they are, and that when you are behind everyone you can't afford to handicap yourself by the same rules they do

Many have already set themselves up for failure before they've even gotten to chance to possibly ascend

No woman wants a virgin man, and no woman will stay with a man who can't even do the bare minimum to please her in the bedroom

The foid that asks you that kind of question is way out of line

No, it only seems like "out of line" to a virgin, normies talk about sex all the time, its only a sensitive issue to someone who is "left out"

probably think you're a virign

Yeah, I even said that in the thread, that was my point, she phrased the question like that on purpose so that I would unknowingly give a "virgin answer", but me being ignorant of relationships thought that it was a good response

 

[Deleted member 17749]

Since I’m ugly and autistic, most of my friends know that I’m obviously a virgin. I guess the bright side about being an obvious virgin is that I can tell them “shut up already” when they start talking about their girlfriend problems or when they’re talking sex.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Since I’m ugly and autistic, most of my friends know that I’m obviously a virgin. I guess the bright side about being an obvious virgin is that I can tell them “shut up already” when they start talking about their girlfriend problems or when they’re talking sex.

You guys won't be friends for long then lol

When my friends started dating and getting into relationships I began to distance myself, because I knew where it was going, I would end up being the 3rd wheel, and i'd much rather our friendship end "on a good note" where we think of "the good times" than for it to become this "forced friendship of obligation" where they really just hang out with you because they feel sorry for you, where every conversation becomes about "getting you laid" or "finding you a girlfriend", where they feel like they have to self censor around you and not talk about the things they enjoy

That isn't a friendship anymore, that's a breeding ground for resentment, they'll resent you for becoming this wall in what they can and can't enjoy, and you'll resent them more for being a constant reminder of what you don't have

 

[Deleted member 17749]

You guys won't be friends for long then lol

When my friends started dating and getting into relationships I began to distance myself, because I knew where it was going, I would end up being the 3rd wheel, and i'd much rather our friendship end "on a good note" where we think of "the good times" than for it to become this "forced friendship of obligation" where they really just hang out with you because they feel sorry for you, where every conversation becomes about "getting you laid" or "finding you a girlfriend", where they feel like they have to self censor around you and not talk about the things they enjoy

That isn't a friendship anymore, that's a breeding ground for resentment, they'll resent you for becoming this wall in what they can and can't enjoy, and you'll resent them more for being a constant reminder of what you don't have

I mean I barely talk to them nowadays. This was all pre-pandemic. Since the pandemic I barely ever talked to any friends all.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

Yeah, that's another reason they'll think you are a virgin, of course that doesn't matter to a richcel like yourself but if man wants to "move up" in the working world he has to be respected in some sense, and nobody respects a virgin

That's the blackpill about networking in jobs tbh

We could be talking about the cost of ice cream and some retard will always pop up into a thread to say "Chad gets extra scoops for free"

 

[BlkPillPres]

I mean I barely talk to them nowadays. This was all pre-pandemic. Since the pandemic I barely ever talked to any friends all.

That's probably for the better, as time goes on people fall more and more into the mold of the path they are on, as similar as you were when you were younger, you are all becoming more and more drastically different from eachother

A lot of my classmates even have fucking kids already, in fact a ton of them do, they've become full on normies, and me I'm on some extreme diverging path of remaining single forever and fucking whores lol

There is no road where we both meet up again as friends and hang out, were just to different now. They would find my path extreme, I would find their path cucked lol

That's the blackpill about networking in jobs tbh

JFL dude I literally just blocked the first guy to respond to this thread because his response was some "Chad does X" response, and I blocked him because all I can remember is seeing his avatar posting these kinds of short trollish responses, I can't even remember his user name though, and I'm glad lol, stupidity should by easily and quickly forgotten

 

[Deleted member 31869]

There's a specific memory I sometimes think of that makes be cringe so hard

I was working at this place and I was talking with this female co-worker about why men shouldn't have to buy any of women's hygiene products for them, and then she asked me a question that was basically - "How often do you want to have sex" with your girlfriend, etc, and I responded with some stupid shit that made it seem like I would be having sex everyday or almost everyday

Now me being ignorant of the fact of how physically taxing sex is, and how often normies even have the time to have sex, that sounded like a "good response", but looking back now I realize that my "cover was blown" and she probably asked that question on purpose

This memory makes me cringe, but it also makes me laugh

It was only years later when I worked more jobs, started talking to normies and listening to them talk about their relationships, that I realize that people (with jobs) don't have sex all that often (maybe 2 times a week) and if you are tired you don't really feel like having sex all that much

What a lot of virgin men also don't realize is that sex is a physically taxing act (especially on the part of the man). I was surprised and confused when I got a leg cramp when I finally decided to pay for sex, its really common sense when you think about it, you are more confused about the fact that you didn't realize something that simple and obvious before you did it, but it doesn't really dawn upon you that its like exercise until you do it yourself, because your only frame of reference for sexual pleasure, is you sitting comfortably on a chair stroking your dick and watching a computer screen (effortless pleasure)

To a virgin with no life experience you think that if you get a GF you'll just be having sex all the time, it doesn't work like that (for the average couple), and based on how you talk about sex when you aren't aware of that reality, many normies around you easily gauge that you are virgin, and you don't even realize it because again you are ignorant of the norms of being in a relationship and how sex works

People usually have to "make time for sex", its not always spontaneous, the working life of the average human today is very hectic and usually both partners work, and when you get home from work you are both somewhat tired. On top of that when you have children that adds even more complications

So I got "found out" those years ago and I didn't even know it, so all those looks and stares I was getting afterwards made sense

This is why its important to talk to normies and understand how their lives work (if you want to blend in)

shit man that's so fucking brutal

i had a similar experience a while ago, now i do my best to listen and figure out what their lives are like

though i think many couples do have sex every day, i've heard it from normies

 

[Tenshi]

I just don't talk about my sex life with normies. When they do talk about it, I keep my mouth zipped, and change the topic of conversation at the next opportunity.

Every time I pay for sex it does remind me how physically unfit I am for a 20-year-old.

sex absolute suck when you're unfit

I don't even know how some fat people manage to fuck, it must be tiring

 

[BITG]

This, I find it so funny that most of the guys on this site who plan on "ascending one day" and will never pay for sex, spend no time at all creating fake past relationships. They literally think they can spend the rest of their life using memes as a guide to how life and relationships work, its like they don't realize that once that potential date can gauge that you are a man in your 20's, 30's, etc with no relationship experience, she will avoid them like the plague

If you are going to refuse to spend time building experience, you have to artificially construct it then, you'll have to "fake it till you make it"

Still like I keep saying though, even if they manage to get a date, the moment is going to come when you finally have to fuck her, and she is going to be able to tell you are a virgin by how inexperienced you are

A man in his 20's or 30's that doesn't know his way around the bedroom is obviously a virgin, even if a guy is just "bad at sex" there's a limit to how bad you can be based on experience

So they won't pay for sex to learn how to have sex, but they expect that they will one day "ascend" and be able to keep a woman satisfied

A lot of these guys are living in disney channel, they have a childish mindset, I don't think they realize how far behind in life they are, and that when you are behind everyone you can't afford to handicap yourself by the same rules they do

Many have already set themselves up for failure before they've even gotten to chance to possibly ascend

No woman wants a virgin man, and no woman will stay with a man who can't even do the bare minimum to please her in the bedroom




No, it only seems like "out of line" to a virgin, normies talk about sex all the time, its only a sensitive issue to someone who is "left out"

Yeah, I even said that in the thread, that was my point, she phrased the question like that on purpose so that I would unknowingly give a "virgin answer", but me being ignorant of relationships thought that it was a good response

1000% agreed. Which is why I will break my escort virginity soon. I need the experience just in case.

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

Yeah, that's the point of the thread, the exception to the rule shouldn't dictate how you interpret reality, that is peak idiocy

When guys start off an argument like this, this is when I stop taking it seriously, what Chad gets has nothing to do with nothing

Average people have jobs and work, what someone born into an inheritance gets to do has nothing to do with anything, that's the exception

These kinds of responses are not only "non sequiturs" they are also "red herrings", they have nothing to do with anything

We could be talking about the cost of ice cream and some retard will always pop up into a thread to say "Chad gets extra scoops for free"

I am just pointing out that normies have to accept shitty sex life and they are ok with it and if they question it they will probably get dumped.

It just makes me laugh normies have to put up with shitty sex life that if they were chad they wouldn’t have to go through with it

 

[Caesercel]

I have a group of virgin friends with very similar socio-economic situations so its fine. Other than that even the non virgins don't judge me here since they were probably virgins too before betabuxx.

But this would become a problem later if I don't betabixx

 

[PPEcel]

sex absolute suck when you're unfit

I don't even know how some fat people manage to fuck, it must be tiring

I'm not fat but I half the time I only see whores after I'm on some kind of substance

So they are on top of me and do all the work. Well most of it

 

[Emba]

All this time i thought you were a skinny... "Steve Urkel" ( “Family Matters” 1989-1998)

I had no idea you were a "Rerun" (What's Happening!! 1976)

When will you be writing your book?

 

[BlkPillPres]

I am just pointing out that normies have to accept shitty sex life and they are ok with it and if they question it they will probably get dumped.

It just makes me laugh normies have to put up with shitty sex life that if they were chad they wouldn’t have to go through with it

1. THAT'S ALL YOU GUYS EVER POINT OUT

So don't use that excuse, in every other damn thread on this site you guys are gonna bring up Chad, the exception to the rule has nothing to do with anything, this is an obsession you guys clearly have

2. Normie males aren't "accepting" anything, you clearly didn't read a damn thing I said, people are tired from work and there are time constraints on their life so they can't have sex everyday, guess who is having a lot of sex everyday right now due to COVID.......... NORMIE MALES (because they don't have to work and they are around their girlfriends all day)

This shit just gets annoying, its pretty much trolling at this point, someone could be trying to discuss an issue and one of you will pop up with "Chad gets X", don't fucking care, that has nothing to do with what were discussing, just like "Millionaires get X" has nothing to do with what were discussing, stop bringing it up, its a red herring

 

[erenyeager]

High iq post tbh. It really does motivate me to get back to the gym at least. I rather be a healthy incel ngl

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

You guys won't be friends for long then lol

When my friends started dating and getting into relationships I began to distance myself, because I knew where it was going, I would end up being the 3rd wheel, and i'd much rather our friendship end "on a good note" where we think of "the good times" than for it to become this "forced friendship of obligation" where they really just hang out with you because they feel sorry for you, where every conversation becomes about "getting you laid" or "finding you a girlfriend", where they feel like they have to self censor around you and not talk about the things they enjoy

That isn't a friendship anymore, that's a breeding ground for resentment, they'll resent you for becoming this wall in what they can and can't enjoy, and you'll resent them more for being a constant reminder of what you don't have

This. I relate too much to being a third wheel. Every day I always knew they pitied me and spoke about "pattern him with a leng ting" or "get him his first shag" (UK slang). They would approach girls and they would get their numbers. I would awkwardly stand there. No point having friends if your a 3rd wheel non NT punching bag. All the fun they had was me being their entertainment and the butt for alot their jokes.

But they would let me tag along and stick around with them. They would call me to come hangout. But I never got why. (idk why). Even tho they were aware I was non NT, weak punching bag and never got laid. They still let me hangout. Never underestood that

 

[BlkPillPres]

But they would let me tag along and stick around with them. They would call me to come hangout. But I never got why. (idk why). Even tho they were aware I was non NT, weak punching bag and never got laid. They still let me hangout. Never underestood that

You make them look better by comparison, and they feel better about themselves just being around you.

I was always the paranoid self-aware type so I'd be thinking ahead about things like this. This is why I let friendships just fade away and distance myself when I see peoples lives moving in a certain direction, I wanted to avoid being the 3rd wheel, and worse ending good friendships on a bad note.

It's better that we remember each other was we were.

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

You make them look better by comparison, and they feel better about themselves just being around you.

I was always the paranoid self-aware type so I'd be thinking ahead about things like this. This is why I let friendships just fade away and distance myself when I see peoples lives moving in a certain direction, I wanted to avoid being the 3rd wheel, and worse ending good friendships on a bad note.

It's better that we remember each other was we were.

Yeah, true friendship is a meme

 

[BlkPillPres]

Yeah, true friendship is a meme

Well it can exist, but it can only exist between people who are "equally yoked" and living the "same type of lifestyle".

 

[tacotown2142]

if they ask you questions assuming that you have a GF you might be a fakecel. Everybody literally just immediately knows I'm single without me even telling them.

 

[BlkPillPres]

if they ask you questions assuming that you have a GF you might be a fakecel. Everybody literally just immediately knows I'm single without me even telling them.

You clearly didn't read the thread. Normies do this shit a lot of the time because they don't think you have a GF, the pose the question to see if you are lying, because there are certain things that only people with relationship experience will know.

The average normie I interact with these days thinks I'm normal, but that's after years of working various jobs and learning how to emulate them.

 

[tacotown2142]

You clearly didn't read the thread. Normies do this shit a lot of the time because they don't think you have a GF, the pose the question to see if you are lying, because there are certain things that only people with relationship experience will know.

But if they're unsure about your relationship status to begin with that means they think you potentially might have a gf. With me they KNOW I'm single. They don't need to pose any questions they literally just assume it right off the bat even if I've never talked about my personal life with them.

 

[BlkPillPres]

But if they're unsure about your relationship status to begin with that means they think you potentially might have a gf.

I'm starting to wonder if you are a larp or something, because I don't know of a single incel who doesn't understand how sadistic normies are, and that they will ask questions because they think you are a loser just so that they can embarrass you or find a means to make fun of you.

Why is this some kind of unthinkable foreign concept to you?

You should immediately get it because it's happened to you before.

You're telling me no normie ever sarcastically asked a question in their attempt to embarrass you?

 

[tacotown2142]

I'm starting to wonder if you are a larp or something, because I don't know of a single incel who doesn't understand how sadistic normies are, and that they will ask questions because they think you are a loser just so that they can embarrass you or find a means to make fun of you.

nigga you just said "they pose the question to see if you are lying" and the title of the thread is that you "blew your cover" stop contradicting yourself. If they already knew you were incel why would they be unsure if you're lying or not? If they already knew you were incel there wouldn't be any cover to blow. Moreover if their question is ""How often do you want to have sex with your girlfriend" it's probably because you actually have normie looks or she's a woman who legitimately doesn't understand that ugly guys don't get GFs the way ugly women can get BFs.

 

[BlkPillPres]

nigga you just said "they pose the question to see if you are lying" and the title of the thread is that you "blew your cover"

Yes because they already suspect that you don't have a GF.

stop contradicting yourself. If they already knew you were incel why would they be unsure if you're lying or not?

There is no contradiction, they suspect that you are incel and they ask the question publicly with other people present in order to get you to embarrass yourself.

If they already knew you were incel there wouldn't be any cover to blow.

Nobody "just knows", however they suspect. Once again, the point of the question isn't really to actually learn anything, the point is to put you on the spot and try to emasculate and embarrass you.

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

nigga you just said "they pose the question to see if you are lying" and the title of the thread is that you "blew your cover" stop contradicting yourself. If they already knew you were incel why would they be unsure if you're lying or not? If they already knew you were incel there wouldn't be any cover to blow. Moreover if their question is ""How often do you want to have sex with your girlfriend" it's probably because you actually have normie looks or she's a woman who legitimately doesn't understand that ugly guys don't get GFs the way ugly women can get BFs.

I don't think your understanding. A normie can KNOW full well your an incel and get no pussy. But still ask you relationship questions as a joke to humiliate you for their own amusement. Like sadistically asking a retard a complex question only to watch him embarrass himself for your own laughter.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I don't think your understanding. A normie can KNOW full well your an incel and get no pussy. But still ask you relationship questions as a joke to humiliate you for their own amusement. Like sadistically asking a retard a complex question only to watch him embarrass himself for your own laughter.

This is exactly what I mean when I asked if he was a larp.

How does he not get something this obvious. Every incel has had something like this done to them.

 

[tacotown2142]

I don't think your understanding. A normie can KNOW full well your an incel and get no pussy. But still ask you relationship questions as a joke to humiliate you for their own amusement. Like sadistically asking a retard a complex question only to watch him embarrass himself for your own laughter.

They can and sometimes do but with OPs post it seems like she legitimately thought he had a GF and all the shit about her secretly knowing he's an incel and trying to humiliate him seems to be his own paranoia. The very fact that he's arguing over whether men should have to pay for women's hygiene shit likely made her think that's an actual issue he's had to deal with.

 

[Don Vito]

I think it depends of the normie and the age. Sure some of them get casual sex after a party.

But you spot something is not often talked here and are those sexual questions on purpose.

 

[Hope and Change]

This is why its important to talk to normies and understand how their lives work (if you want to blend in)

1) try talking to normies
2) they understand you are incel
3) you saw what happened and learnt from that mistake
4) everyone now knows you're incel

So what did you achieve? I don't think what you're saying here is possible, you learn one thing sure but you move to another normie circle and they'll find out because you'll make another mistake

 

[BlkPillPres]

So what did you achieve?

I learned how to think about certain questions before answering them. For example, before I had left that workplace I had paid for sex, because of what I experienced with that whore, when conversations about sex came up among normies at my future workplace they all thought that I was completely normal.

Here's something an incel wouldn't even expect to happen while having sex:
YOU CAN GET A LEG CRAMP (yes, it's actually common).

When I brought it up all the guys laughed and said the same thing happens to them too sometimes if they do something at a bad angle or they didn't stretch, etc. In their eyes I was a full on normie with a sex life, when I was just some random loser that fucked a prostitute once.

You see interacting with normies, makes you think to try new things and to "be more outgoing", to stop placing limitations on yourself. This leads to you having more experiences and different experiences, that actually form the framework for changing what you think about BEFORE you answer a normie question. You basically become a better liar .

Before paying for sex, I would never have considered the actual "physical ramifications" of having sex. Think about it, it's exercise, it's literally exercise, but from an incels perspective were just comfortably sitting down and stroking our dicks, we don't have that frame of reference.

This is exactly why when certain questions come up we just make ourselves look stupid, because we lack the frame of reference to understand HOW THINGS ACTUALLY WORK AND ARE EXPERIENCED BY THE AVERAGE PERSON.

I don't think what you're saying here is possible, you learn one thing sure but you move to another normie circle and they'll find out because you'll make another mistake

Like I said above, interacting with normies makes you try new things, learn how to speak to people, hear stories from them, and from those experiences you form an idea of WHAT THINGS TO CONSIDER before answering, things that you never would have considered had you not had certain experiences or heard certain stories.

Basically it gives you a more accurate map for you to describe when giving directions. Before that point all you had was "fog of war".

So no, you don't end up making another mistake, because after you get enough "data" you can form a more accurate "model", like how an AI learns.

I mean think about, if what you were saying was true, AI literally wouldn't become smarter. There are literally an infinite number of mistakes that can happen in an infinite number of variations, but since AI "learns", it has the ability to not just understand common mistakes, but also be able to understand mistakes/errors it hasn't encountered before, because it recognizes a "pattern". AI is modeled after the human brain for a reason.

Are you telling me you've never tried to spell a word in your head that you've never heard before, and when you looked it up you spelled it correctly?

Of course you were able to do this. That's because your brain has built up an understand of the language and the languages rules, and you can passively use that understanding to spell words you've never heard before.

It''s not rocket science.

 

[Hope and Change]

Thanks for the reply

 

[subhuman]

Normie relationships are cucked. I think the reason why it’s so painful for most people to be incel is that their concept of relationships is heavily idealized and probably doesn’t even exist, so they want so badly something that doesn’t exist. I unironically think it’s better to just be an escortcel. People act like it’s a last resort or something… but there are advantages to it. Like you can fuck who you want when you want, you can fuck many different girls, you don’t have to put up with the bullshit.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Normie relationships are cucked. I think the reason why it’s so painful for most people to be incel is that their concept of relationships is heavily idealized and probably doesn’t even exist, so they want so badly something that doesn’t exist.

This.

I unironically think it’s better to just be an escortcel.

Also this. It's just less hassle. I don't even want to think about having to understand anyone's emotions lol. I was never an emotional person to begin with, and years of being a recluse has made me even more cold. It doesn't make sense for me to try and pretend to be normal, it's counter productive to my primary goal of enjoying life.

People act like it’s a last resort or something… but there are advantages to it. Like you can fuck who you want when you want, you can fuck many different girls, you don’t have to put up with the bullshit.

A lot of these guys are coping. They really are obsessed with an ideal, the sad thing is the ideal doesn't exist, and they'll only figure that out when it's too late.