Serious Why Incełs Need to Start Going to Church if They Want to Get Some
Too degenerate, didn't watch
almost all incel vids that people make nowadays is just trolling or shitty advice
Not watching. There were a few girls I saw in church before I stopped going.
Tradcuck cope. Foids in the church are still foids, especially when we live in a secular state. Religion is basically just a larp club.
dn watch ngl but I went to a few churches during a spiritual seeking phase I had a while back and there was like a combined total of 2-3 girls my age there across all of them. I didn't care about that though because I wasn't attending church services to get laid and anyone who does that unironically is giga autistic nglossus
The video was clearly not made with ethnics in mind. Subtle racepill.
I don't believe in God and I will never pretend I do.
I actually planned doing this before Corona happened. When I was standing around and waiting for classes in university, an Asian women approached me and gave me a flyer for some student bible study on weekends. I planned to check it out to see if girls are there but then lockdown was announced. Kinda regret being too shy not going the first week I had the chance.
I live in a small town so church isn't really an option. Mostly old people or children. Country as a whole isn't really religious. Especially not in a church going way.
I live in a small town so church isn't really an option. Mostly old people or children. Country as a whole isn't really religious. Especially not in a church going way.
The title is admittedly clickbaity, but the video itself presents good arguments, and fundamentally agrees with the scientific blackpill while offering some critiques. They are made in good faith and I've even entertained them myself.
Most significantly, the uploader points out how the fixation on sex and validation as opposed to marriage and commitment which occurs in incel communities reveals a psychopathic and narcissistic attitude towards the world, which is the whole the problem with modern sociosexuality in the first place.
But I would encourage him to think about the extent to which incels who exhibit fast life history strategies (synonymous with psychopathic and narcissistic personalities) have not simply adapted to these attitudes and behaviors out of traumatic experiences, in the same manner that a girl who is sexually molested as a child and suffers from C-PTSD as a consequence naturally develops a BPD personality -- that is, one suited for short-term, abusive mating situations, but with a clearly visible yet broken pair bonding mechanism underneath.
That is, many incels have the instincts for a slow-life history strategy, but were not properly socialized into one, due to the prevailing psychopathic and narcissistic "culture" which does not incentivize prosocial behaviors and stable personalities, but rather preys upon and exacerbates neuroticism (as through the promotion of pornography and sexual paraphilias), and, most crucially, rewards those who have Dark Triad traits as much as it does with high social status.
A good example of this is the fact that Stephen Paddock, the worst mass-shooter in US history and a psychopath just like his bank robber father, enjoyed high social status throughout his life. He worked at the IRS and Lockheed Martin, and made tons of money in real estate in partnership with his brother, Eric (a malignant narcissist if there ever was one, and also a white collar criminal).
He last met his nephew, David, in Reno, Nevada during June of 2017, when the former was in town gambling and the latter was in town attending a furry convention:
In a soyciety where libertarianism is the cultural hegemony (valuing capitalism + cultural degeneracy), these "people" form the upper class.
You get a scenario where a rich, psychopathic uncle who is already plotting his mass-murder spree happens upon his psychopathic nephew (also rich considering how much money it costs to attend a convention), while both are engaged in their preferred pathology within the context of the greater Las Vegas area, which was founded by depraved gangsters and murderers to begin with.
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Dn watch but what I did watch from him is The Mutant Says in His Heart, “There Is No God”: the Rejection of Collective Religiosity Centred Around the Worship of Moral Gods Is Associated with High Mutational Load | SpringerLink
Can someone tell me how these videos aren't contradictory? Because the one in this thread is advocating for free will of sorts (just take this advice and it'll all work out) while the one I just posted is more about determinism (it's over for atheists).
Can someone tell me how these videos aren't contradictory? Because the one in this thread is advocating for free will of sorts (just take this advice and it'll all work out) while the one I just posted is more about determinism (it's over for atheists).
I go to church to cope, not to get noticed by foids.
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i used to be a "slow life history strategist" which is just a more fancy term for beta bucks. and it's a shit-tier strategy.
but since fast life history strategy does not work for people with bad looks either, i guess both strategies can be considered a failure.
good thing that there is always still the joker card left.
but since fast life history strategy does not work for people with bad looks either, i guess both strategies can be considered a failure.
good thing that there is always still the joker card left.
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tried this. turns out that foids of acceptable age(12-16) do not go to church. you're lucky if one shows up and you can't really ioi her there. it'd take a long ass time tbh and also her parents are there it really doesn't work. and she won't see you most of the time. also it takes a lot of time, sometimes it's ok sometimes a bit boring. I've tried quite a few churches in the area
There's no god for your face
I don't think he's referring to grooming child molestation victims
Insofar as older men used to marry girls who just entered puberty, it was with the explicit permission of the parents. The whole culture of avoiding a sexual mate's parents is r-selected and fast life af.
what? I've noticed the exact opposite. most normies are fixated on getting laid and showing off their shitty cars or phones or whatever. a whole lot of us just want a family/to be loved
like I can do anything about it. stupid parents would rather their lolis get pumped and dumped hard in high school as long as it's 'safe sex'I don't think he's referring to grooming child molestation victims
Insofar as older men used to marry girls who just entered puberty, it was with the explicit permission of the parents. The whole culture of avoiding a sexual mate's parents is r-selected and fast life af.
As I proceed to point out in my post, many incels who speak of "sex and validation" as priorities (and there are indeed many, many threads on this topic) do so because they're attempting to adapt to the prevailing culture, which does not reward their intrinsic desires for marriage and love, but instead traumatizes them in their efforts to find it; yet does reward psychopathic and narcissistic behaviors (as in the case of the Paddock family).
This state of affairs does not have to be, yet we tend to speak of it almost as an inevitability that Dark Triad traits will translate to high social status in life. It certainly will in a culture with a liberal/libertarian ethos, but there is nothing legitimate and lasting about such a cultural hegemony of capitalist decadence, which is something the uploader implies but does not put too fine a point on.
The way @FrothySolutions obsesses about house parties is a rather blatant example of someone with an instinctive desire to find lasting love being socialized/traumatized into a psychopathic rite of passage that is adversarial to his very being, where one gets wasted and laid with random women. His neuroticism was exploited to idealize what's environmentally mismatched to him, and he was made to romanticize the off-putting. Imagine this dynamic but on a wide scale.
As the uploader points out, at least the types to engage in casual sex are also socialized into not having children (e.g. by using contraception). This may plausibly advantage those who are k-selected in future generations.like I can do anything about it. stupid parents would rather their lolis get pumped and dumped hard in high school as long as it's 'safe sex'
But it's not just the r-selected who are socialized by the media and academia. Indeed, all these children of the k-selected are being actively victimized by the values of low fertility and social conformity themselves (already existing tendencies within them that are easily manipulated and exacerbated).
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Very nice post I enjoyed reading it, also this whole thing about fast history strategy and saying incels are psychopaths etc I don't agree with that, some incels just really are either too autistic or too ugly to ever make it sociallyThe title is admittedly clickbaity, but the video itself presents good arguments, and fundamentally agrees with the scientific blackpill while offering some critiques. They are made in good faith and I've even entertained them myself.
Most significantly, the uploader points out how the fixation on sex and validation as opposed to marriage and commitment which occurs in incel communities reveals a psychopathic and narcissistic attitude towards the world, which is the whole the problem with modern sociosexuality in the first place.
But I would encourage him to think about the extent to which incels who exhibit fast life history strategies (synonymous with psychopathic and narcissistic personalities) have not simply adapted to these attitudes and behaviors out of traumatic experiences, in the same manner that a girl who is sexually molested as a child and suffers from C-PTSD as a consequence naturally develops a BPD personality -- that is, one suited for short-term, abusive mating situations, but with a clearly visible yet broken pair bonding mechanism underneath.
That is, many incels have the instincts for a slow-life history strategy, but were not properly socialized into one, due to the prevailing psychopathic and narcissistic "culture" which does not incentivize prosocial behaviors and stable personalities, but rather preys upon and exacerbates neuroticism (as through the promotion of pornography and sexual paraphilias), and, most crucially, rewards those who have Dark Triad traits as much as it does with high social status.
A good example of this is the fact that Stephen Paddock, the worst mass-shooter in US history and a psychopath just like his bank robber father, enjoyed high social status throughout his life. He worked at the IRS and Lockheed Martin, and made tons of money in real estate in partnership with his brother, Eric (a malignant narcissist if there ever was one, and also a white collar criminal).
He last met his nephew, David, in Reno, Nevada during June of 2017, when the former was in town gambling and the latter was in town attending a furry convention:
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In a soyciety where libertarianism is the cultural hegemony (valuing capitalism + cultural degeneracy), these "people" form the upper class.
You get a scenario where a rich, psychopathic uncle who is already plotting his mass-murder spree happens upon his psychopathic nephew (also rich considering how much money it costs to attend a convention), while both are engaged in their preferred pathology within the context of the greater Las Vegas area, which was founded by depraved gangsters and murderers to begin with.
Only girl that I had any type of serious communication with in college was a church goer. I was in my degenerate phase so I scoffed at the idea, but I now realize I should have embraced Christian values and rejected degeneracy long ago. I wouldn't even care if I was still a virgin if I had a girl to be intimate with and eventually get married to...
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This.
Incels are mostly "psychopathic" in the sense of secondary psychopathy, hence the comparison with BPD women.
These may be "fast-life history strategists," but only because of trauma owing to environmental mismatch or abuse.
Stephen Paddock, by contrast, was an obvious primary psychopath; that is, genetically predisposed to a fast-life history strategy, which this society never did anything to temper. Instead, this society enabled him to live fast but never die young, such that he had to manually effect his own sedentary yet spectacular death once his boomer body could no longer perform the exciting activities it used to (including sex):
Autists are very likely to develop secondary psychopathic traits, which relate to the personality types of BPD and narcissism. People who have these personalities are often victims of circumstance and have a sympathetic side.
For example, the person in the YouTube video below is noted to have been bullied when he was younger. This made him into a spiteful, overcompensating, grandiose narcissist, someone you can both hate and understand at the same time:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB1NXGAZjb8
JFL at the uploader's concern trolling at the end over him lavishing in the death of his bully.
>I am literally shaking
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Incels are mostly "psychopathic" in the sense of secondary psychopathy, hence the comparison with BPD women.
These may be "fast-life history strategists," but only because of trauma owing to environmental mismatch or abuse.
Stephen Paddock, by contrast, was an obvious primary psychopath; that is, genetically predisposed to a fast-life history strategy, which this society never did anything to temper. Instead, this society enabled him to live fast but never die young, such that he had to manually effect his own spectacular death once his boomer body could no longer perform the exciting activities it used to (including sex):
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Autists are very likely to develop secondary psychopathic traits, which relate to the personality types of BPD and narcissism. People who have these personalities are often victims of circumstance and have a sympathetic side.
For example, the person in the YouTube video below is noted to have been bullied when he was younger. This made him into a boastful, overcompensating, grandiose narcissist, someone you can both hate yet understand:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB1NXGAZjb8
JFL at the uploader's concern trolling at the end over him lavishing in the death of his bully.
>I am literally shaking
TBH I think a lot of incels fall under
-Avoidant PD
-Schizoid PD
-Narcissistic (vulnerable)
Not sociopathy or psychopathy.
Vulnerable narcissism is not unrelated to secondary psychopathy (i.e. sociopathy), as you can see in the case of Elliot Rodger.
Doubtlessly, Elliot Rodger's fangirls have BPD and like him because BPD and vulnerable narcissism are essentially equivalent.
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Perhaps. That guy was a case of Vulnerable narcisissim, avoidant PD, and aspergers syndrome IMO. I agree that vulnerable narcissism can turn to violent behavior though.
Yup, and I'd say I have the same general composition of traits; as do many on this forum, which is how we can relate to him.
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Historical trads got basically issued wives for simply living to whatever age was considered adult without dying from measles or something and showing up to work.
Also, tons of us larp religion and are still incel.
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Highest of IQs.The title is admittedly clickbaity, but the video itself presents good arguments, and fundamentally agrees with the scientific blackpill while offering some critiques. They are made in good faith and I've even entertained them myself.
Most significantly, the uploader points out how the fixation on sex and validation as opposed to marriage and commitment which occurs in incel communities reveals a psychopathic and narcissistic attitude towards the world, which is the whole the problem with modern sociosexuality in the first place.
But I would encourage him to think about the extent to which incels who exhibit fast life history strategies (synonymous with psychopathic and narcissistic personalities) have not simply adapted to these attitudes and behaviors out of traumatic experiences, in the same manner that a girl who is sexually molested as a child and suffers from C-PTSD as a consequence naturally develops a BPD personality -- that is, one suited for short-term, abusive mating situations, but with a clearly visible yet broken pair bonding mechanism underneath.
That is, many incels have the instincts for a slow-life history strategy, but were not properly socialized into one, due to the prevailing psychopathic and narcissistic "culture" which does not incentivize prosocial behaviors and stable personalities, but rather preys upon and exacerbates neuroticism (as through the promotion of pornography and sexual paraphilias), and, most crucially, rewards those who have Dark Triad traits as much as it does with high social status.
A good example of this is the fact that Stephen Paddock, the worst mass-shooter in US history and a psychopath just like his bank robber father, enjoyed high social status throughout his life. He worked at the IRS and Lockheed Martin, and made tons of money in real estate in partnership with his brother, Eric (a malignant narcissist if there ever was one, and also a white collar criminal).
He last met his nephew, David, in Reno, Nevada during June of 2017, when the former was in town gambling and the latter was in town attending a furry convention:
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In a soyciety where libertarianism is the cultural hegemony (valuing capitalism + cultural degeneracy), these "people" form the upper class.
You get a scenario where a rich, psychopathic uncle who is already plotting his mass-murder spree happens upon his psychopathic nephew (also rich considering how much money it costs to attend a convention), while both are engaged in their preferred pathology within the context of the greater Las Vegas area, which was founded by depraved gangsters and murderers to begin with.
Modern western soyciety is cancer. Things were already bad enough without a system with insanely twisted moral values that rewards psychopaths and traumatize non-psychopaths into some variation of secondary psychopathy.
Thumbnail is too repelling ngl
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@Atavistic Autist
Could you explain to me in detail how vulnerable narcissism and BPD are equivalent reactions to traumatic events?
I am interested, this thread is High IQ.
What is your opinion on treatment success?
Is therapy any good in easening up those dynamics? Or once caused its difficult to get rid of?
Could you explain to me in detail how vulnerable narcissism and BPD are equivalent reactions to traumatic events?
I am interested, this thread is High IQ.
What is your opinion on treatment success?
Is therapy any good in easening up those dynamics? Or once caused its difficult to get rid of?
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